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Sick Grindfest

Sick Grindfest.



Thats the best description I can come up with of this game. Gotten to lvl 40 or so. Im amazed how masochist some people are and what they will go through just to get some lvls. Nothing justifies such a boring waste of time, not even it being free.



If you were thinking of trying this, dont, you get what 1 quest per lvl that gives 5% xp and have to kill the same few mobs 100s of time to lvl its the worst contentless mmo I had the misfortune to try so far.
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  • Superman0XSuperman0X Member RarePosts: 2,292
    You may be right... but you really are not in a position to know. You are level 15... that has taken you 2-3 hours? Try playing for a few days before you comment, then you can at least say that you know what you are talking about.
  • nitebladeniteblade Member Posts: 44
    Originally posted by Poornstar

    Sick Grindfest.



    Thats the best description I can come up with of this game. Gotten to lvl 15 or so. Im amazed how masochist some people are and what they will go through just to get some lvls. Nothing justifies such a boring waste of time, not even it being free.



    If you were thinking of trying this, dont, you get what 1 quest per lvl that gives 5% xp and have to kill the same few mobs 100s of time to lvl its the worst contentless mmo I had the misfortune to try so far.
    Better yet, Quit playing MMO's it's not for you.   All MMO's = grinding Go back to playing consoles and stop posting needless threads.  Again, please don't play MMO's it's obvious not for you.  Trust me if you are bitching about grinding to Level 15 FFS!!!
  • Originally posted by Superman0X

    You may be right... but you really are not in a position to know. You are level 15... that has taken you 2-3 hours? Try playing for a few days before you comment, then you can at least say that you know what you are talking about.
    Yes I am I played enough mmorpg to know what is fun and what is not, this game clearly wasnt and that is one of the reason it will be free to play. I spent over 20 hours playing it not just grinding but exploring, checking items out and trying to do something else than grind, im sorry it has no depth whatsoever. Get a job so you can afford to play and see what a real fun mmorpg is, please



    Originally posted by niteblade



    Better yet, Quit playing MMO's it's not for you.   All MMO's = grinding Go back to playing consoles and stop posting needless threads.  Again, please don't play MMO's it's obvious not for you.  Trust me if you are bitching about grinding to Level 15 FFS!!!
    Yes im seriously considering it seeing how pathetic it can be, but some actually made the lvling process a fun rewarding ride with alot of diversity and a cool story to follow. Not killing 800 of the same kung-fu clowns just to have to move to the next pack of saber clowns except having to kill 1000 before moving to the saber zombies to .... .... .....





    Spend a year killing kung-fu clowns so you can get to 218 and feel cool about it,I know ill be doing something better with my life
  • CroeCroe Member Posts: 194
    well man if you think about it grinding is a part of most of the RPG"s ive played and im pretty sure youv'e played some type of game were you grind like that and it wasnt online. the point is man these are MMOrpg's and it shouldnt be boring or sad to play it or grind the question is. How fun can you make the grinding for me? or What will i achive if i keep doing this?



    Imho you have to want to play in the first place for there to be any chance in you liking the game. I thought the grind was bad in this game but i keep wanting to play cause i want to see what would happen if my character got stronger and what different styles i would get this is what keeps me playing 9 dragons. Ive felt like there wasnt a game for me before i think that alot of people on this site have but we wait and watch for the next game hoping it brings us what we want. i wont play 9 dragons forever but it is fun for right now i guess im just waiting for somthin else.
  • obocoboc Member UncommonPosts: 189

    9 Dragons rocks....... If you have no life,and willing to spend 15 hours a day or more leveling... thats it ,if thats you then this game is for you !

    oooo rl 10 ...hehe

  • TimeViewerTimeViewer Member Posts: 270
    Originally posted by Poornstar

    Originally posted by Superman0X

    You may be right... but you really are not in a position to know. You are level 15... that has taken you 2-3 hours? Try playing for a few days before you comment, then you can at least say that you know what you are talking about.
    Yes I am I played enough mmorpg to know what is fun and what is not, this game clearly wasnt and that is one of the reason it will be free to play. I spent over 20 hours playing it not just grinding but exploring, checking items out and trying to do something else than grind, im sorry it has no depth whatsoever. Get a job so you can afford to play and see what a real fun mmorpg is, please



    Originally posted by niteblade



    Better yet, Quit playing MMO's it's not for you.   All MMO's = grinding Go back to playing consoles and stop posting needless threads.  Again, please don't play MMO's it's obvious not for you.  Trust me if you are bitching about grinding to Level 15 FFS!!!
    Yes im seriously considering it seeing how pathetic it can be, but some actually made the lvling process a fun rewarding ride with alot of diversity and a cool story to follow. Not killing 800 of the same kung-fu clowns just to have to move to the next pack of saber clowns except having to kill 1000 before moving to the saber zombies to .... .... .....





    Spend a year killing kung-fu clowns so you can get to 218 and feel cool about it,I know ill be doing something better with my life



    Like spending your life being a Console Clown and whining about online games in an online games forum?

    Online games aren't suppose to be played over the weekend then thrown into a box to be forgotten until some day when you're bored. They're designed to be played over years, a simple fact that short minded twits can't seem to grasp, especially the ones who keep spamming and whining about it in online game forums.

    Gee you spent  a few days and you're not an instant server god being worshipped by women all over the world ::sniff sniff:: Go play your little console game in cheat mode so you can fool yourself into thinking you're a real gamer, then claim you've grown up and swear off gaming for the rest of your boring life. The community will miss you... NOT, nor will we miss your insightful whining, nor will we miss your false sense of superiority. Cya, wouldn't wanna Be ya.

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  • Originally posted by TimeViewer


    Like spending your life being a Console Clown and whining about online games in an online games forum?
    Online games aren't suppose to be played over the weekend then thrown into a box to be forgotten until some day when you're bored. They're designed to be played over years, a simple fact that short minded twits can't seem to grasp, especially the ones who keep spamming and whining about it in online game forums.
    Gee you spent  a few days and you're not an instant server god being worshipped by women all over the world ::sniff sniff:: Go play your little console game in cheat mode so you can fool yourself into thinking you're a real gamer, then claim you've grown up and swear off gaming for the rest of your boring life. The community will miss you... NOT, nor will we miss your insightful whining, nor will we miss your false sense of superiority. Cya, wouldn't wanna Be ya.
    In a way its a good thing youll be spending the next few years grinding the same 10 mobs, for evolution purpose only. Im still looking for your arguments in that posts why this is a good game but cant seem to find it. If the community is full of insightful open minded intelligent people like you I will sure miss it.



    Ill go play my ps3 now, become the server god, stopping by the temple for my daily women worshipping from all over the world playing the holy wii in cheat mode so I can be what I strive to be: a real gamer, so have a good day Tim.
  • warren_knwarren_kn Member Posts: 2
    Originally posted by Poornstar

    Originally posted by TimeViewer


    Like spending your life being a Console Clown and whining about online games in an online games forum?
    Online games aren't suppose to be played over the weekend then thrown into a box to be forgotten until some day when you're bored. They're designed to be played over years, a simple fact that short minded twits can't seem to grasp, especially the ones who keep spamming and whining about it in online game forums.
    Gee you spent  a few days and you're not an instant server god being worshipped by women all over the world ::sniff sniff:: Go play your little console game in cheat mode so you can fool yourself into thinking you're a real gamer, then claim you've grown up and swear off gaming for the rest of your boring life. The community will miss you... NOT, nor will we miss your insightful whining, nor will we miss your false sense of superiority. Cya, wouldn't wanna Be ya.
    In a way its a good thing youll be spending the next few years grinding the same 10 mobs, for evolution purpose only. Im still looking for your arguments in that posts why this is a good game but cant seem to find it. If the community is full of insightful open minded intelligent people like you I will sure miss it.



    Ill go play my ps3 now, become the server god, stopping by the temple for my daily women worshipping from all over the world playing the holy wii in cheat mode so I can be what I strive to be: a real gamer, so have a good day Tim.

    That's very nice for you.  Please don't come back, there are enough post similar to yours we don't need yet another.
  • KorlenKorlen Member Posts: 21
    What MMO isn't a grindfest?



    come on now..... what do you want... an I WIN button?
  • Originally posted by Korlen

    What MMO isn't a grindfest?



    come on now..... what do you want... an I WIN button?
    finally a post with content. Any game that adds instances, pvp, quests. Any game that doesnt revolve around killing 1000times the same mob to lvl. Grindfests are typically free mmorpgs. Look at games like WoW those arent. Lots of people are plain dumb, im not saying im some godlike superintelligent one but the typical person playing theses grindfests arent realizing that what they are doing takes absolutly no skill at all, it just takes time. 9Dragons unfortunatly was one of the first free to play mmorpg I tried and it happened to be a very hollow game so I couldnt resist posting about it. The only challenge is the number of swings your willing to give with your sword to show how braindead you are and how far your tolerance to repetitiveness will allow you to go



    Its not a matter of having an IWIN button, just some fun story and other things to do than kill the same mob 1000 times to lvl without any other option to lvl. For instance I got into a team in 9dragons and people were really brainless grinders. I just went afk for 1hour and they didnt notice it, just shows how teamwork and effort is required to lvl in this game.



    I didnt post here to convince a few stubborn idiots and 12 years old that cant counter arguments that this game was trash since those people are generally worthless and not worth bothering with, but simply to give my honest opinion as a long time mmorpg player what this game was like. So please stop being on the defensive, take it as what it is.


  • TimeViewerTimeViewer Member Posts: 270
    Originally posted by Poornstar

    Originally posted by TimeViewer


    Like spending your life being a Console Clown and whining about online games in an online games forum?
    Online games aren't suppose to be played over the weekend then thrown into a box to be forgotten until some day when you're bored. They're designed to be played over years, a simple fact that short minded twits can't seem to grasp, especially the ones who keep spamming and whining about it in online game forums.
    Gee you spent  a few days and you're not an instant server god being worshipped by women all over the world ::sniff sniff:: Go play your little console game in cheat mode so you can fool yourself into thinking you're a real gamer, then claim you've grown up and swear off gaming for the rest of your boring life. The community will miss you... NOT, nor will we miss your insightful whining, nor will we miss your false sense of superiority. Cya, wouldn't wanna Be ya.
    In a way its a good thing youll be spending the next few years grinding the same 10 mobs, for evolution purpose only. Im still looking for your arguments in that posts why this is a good game but cant seem to find it. If the community is full of insightful open minded intelligent people like you I will sure miss it.



    Ill go play my ps3 now, become the server god, stopping by the temple for my daily women worshipping from all over the world playing the holy wii in cheat mode so I can be what I strive to be: a real gamer, so have a good day Tim.



    You aren't looking for anything, you're just parroting the same old garbage that every console clown comes in crying about, so much for your feigned superiority... again

    BTW If you had really been looking for why the game is good you would have just read some of the other threads stating what they liked about the game, not just started another whiner thread, so much for that lie...

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  • ownedyou1ownedyou1 Member Posts: 364
    I agree with OP, Played this game for 5 days. It's just like...grind fest :(



    Quests;



    Kill 100 bulls!

    kill 200 monkeys!



    Its just another korean grind game :( just wait for AoC, This is my opinion.
  • TimeViewerTimeViewer Member Posts: 270
    Originally posted by ownedyou1

    I agree with OP, Played this game for 5 days. It's just like...grind fest :(



    Quests;



    Kill 100 bulls!

    kill 200 monkeys!



    Its just another korean grind game :( just wait for AoC, This is my opinion.

    There are no Bulls except what you're slinging here, and there are no Monkeys, aside from the usual forum monkeys who post the same clap trap over and over under various new names.

    You never even played the game, that's obvious

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  • nitebladeniteblade Member Posts: 44
    Man, no one is trying to tell you how to state your opinion on forums.  You come to 9Dragons forum, where people that play the game and like the game are here calling them braindead, saying the game sucks.  How do you think people are going to respond?  You either could have kept "your" personal feelings to "yourself" or went to the past 6 threads I skipped that are crying about the same thing and contribute there instead of creating another.  If you don't like the game, don't play and move on...
  • vajurasvajuras Member Posts: 2,860
    people who say all MMOs are a grindfest haven't played them all for sure. In EvE you train skillz offline and for money you can just gank other player ships,etc. guild wars you hit 20 in like  afew days and fromt hat point u can start pvping with a guild. havent played 9dragons much just havent had much time its encouraging to see this game has so many fanbois though will have to try it out
  • KorlenKorlen Member Posts: 21
    Not looking to get in a fight, but man... Every game requires some sort of grind... even WOW



    http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/17-01-2007-4522.html



    case in point, this is on the extreme side.... but i view it no different then any game on here.... If you have to kill -quest - or pvp to level.. is that not grinding?
  • MakonMakon Member Posts: 1

    if you want skill based id suggest an MMOFPS or FreeWorld (archer takes skill) just about EVERY other game requires you to grind and also in 9Dragons the fun doesnt start untill you get higher level, i was bored outa my mind untill i hit OC1 so dont judge a game untill you play it for a while longer.

  • VhalnVhaln Member Posts: 3,159
    Originally posted by Korlen

    Not looking to get in a fight, but man... Every game requires some sort of grind... even WOW



    http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/17-01-2007-4522.html



    case in point, this is on the extreme side.... but i view it no different then any game on here.... If you have to kill -quest - or pvp to level.. is that not grinding?

    Come on, not all grinds are created equal. 9Dragons is about as simplistic and repetitive as spawn camping grindfests can get. Just because some fool reduced all the content in WoW to the same thing doesn't make it the same thing. It's amazing that this board isn't full of comments like the OP.

    When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.

  • TimeViewerTimeViewer Member Posts: 270
    Originally posted by Vhaln

    Originally posted by Korlen

    Not looking to get in a fight, but man... Every game requires some sort of grind... even WOW



    http://www.pro-g.co.uk/news/17-01-2007-4522.html



    case in point, this is on the extreme side.... but i view it no different then any game on here.... If you have to kill -quest - or pvp to level.. is that not grinding?
    Come on, not all grinds are created equal. 9Dragons is about as simplistic and repetitive as spawn camping grindfests can get. Just because some fool reduced all the content in WoW to the same thing doesn't make it the same thing. It's amazing that this board isn't full of comments like the OP.



    Maybe we're just sick of whiners, Maybe we're just sick of Asian game haters, Maybe we're just sick of Console Clowns, Maybe we're just sick of we're just sick of people posting about a game they know nothing about just to keep a stupid flame going.

    One thing we're not sick of is the game.

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  • MosfetMosfet Member CommonPosts: 125
    I agree that 9dragons is very grindy... played up to about lvl 40. HOWEVER the game is still in Beta, some more than just grinding content most propably will, not to forget hopfully, be implemented before release. When I played during the closed beta, the game was kinda repetetive, level up, change farm spot,level up change farm spot etc. BUT we cant judge an unfinished game. With just a little more special content, the game will rock.

    "Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand alloys and compositions and things with... molecular structures."

  • daeandordaeandor Member UncommonPosts: 2,695
    Part of the problem these guys who say "it is a horrible grind", is that in the newb areas, there are not many good quests.  Honestly, I was thinking the same thing until I reached about Revolving Chakra (sp?) and some of the quests seemed a bit better.  People have been spoiled by WoW and EQ2 which give good exp for quests, resulting in the perceived lack of 'grinding.'  But in reality they all grind something, including EVE.  In EVE you grind isk.  There is no question about it, without isk, you cannot skill train, you cannot pvp, you cannot do anything, so you have to grind out isk in some manner.



    I do agree, 9 Dragons is a horrible grind fest.  Not just because you need to kill countless mobs to level, but because of the skill grinding.  One of my toons has a skill that at Chi 1 gets 0.005 % xp per cast.  That means that it will take 20,000 casts to just get to Chi 2.  With a 3 sec cast / cooldown, that is 1000 minutes (16 hours and 40 minues) of just casting that one spell to get to Chi 2.  That is rediculous.  Fortunately it is still beta and these exp numbers will hopefully come down.



    For the record, anyone doing the math can figure that Chi 10 of the example spell above would take nearly 7 days of straight casting if the xp rate is the same for all levels (unlikely).



    All of that said, I still like the game.  I find several aspects of it interesting and the combat is okay for the most part.  What I like the most is that it is challenging.
  • RequiamerRequiamer Member Posts: 2,034
    OK it is obviously a grind fest, but the ambiance is really nice and the theme is creative, not all those lame orc and elves fest Anyway it is better that most p2p games out there and this not only because it is free, even if it a strong argument. In fact i'll rather play this grind fest for free than play for an other stupid grind fest ie WOW, EQ2, L2, come on people seriously do you really think those stupid games deserve millions of your $ per years? i really don't think so.
  • TimeViewerTimeViewer Member Posts: 270

    The skill part I agree with, especially for one particular skill, protection. Most of them you can use a lot or keep active to train, the only way to train protection though is to drop a weight on the key and occasionally click the med (btw in case any reader hasn't noticed protection casting damages your weapons, both primary and secondary can be destroyed if you try AFKing this one). You can't train targeted skills (buffs) like this though, even self targeting it just flashes until some action (clicking) is taken.

    As you point out most games do have the grind aspect to them, but I've seen an absurd amount of complaints about certain games (as in the region they come from) and even outright lies (like Mr hundreds of bulls and monkeys quests). Some people just want glorified chatrooms they can parade around in with max chars they made in a week... weak.

    ::gets out his Cane of the Grumpy Old Man and starts wailing on a few noggins::

    If you make a max char in this game then you've actually accomplished something, something that took time and dedication. Unfortunately many of today's role models seem to glorify cheating and shortcuts over actual work.

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  • HUn73rHUn73r Member Posts: 123

    This game is dead enyway......

     got this from a letter from them

     

    You will have noticed on the front of the 9Dragons log-in screen that The Persistent Worlds Company Ltd has ceased to trade.  This is extremely disappointing given the obvious support the game has.  However a lack of future funding has meant that the company has to stop operating. In due course the servers will be shut down and the forums withdrawn.
  • I gave the game another try last weekend and got to lvl 40. Im gonna admit I macroed meditation, lightfoot and one buff to max on friday while at work, but spent all the time killing stuff myself the weekend. I played a demon and the quest to get appretice at GC 1 to kill chimeiras was so stupid and hard, low droprate, that if I didnt have a high lvl healer helping me out I would have never made it. Same with the quest to get a class at GC8, I had 2 high lvls to tank the white knife cause it was overkill to even hit it.



    To make a long story of my saturday, I killed 100-300 red ladys in mount yamno, moved to zhang something, killed 100-300 shadow thiefs, moved to kill 100-300 madmans, next were the 100-300 tarantulas, graduated to killing 100-300 redfoxs, but I still wasnt done, so I grinded about 100-300 bears. The bear spot was frustrating, there was 4-5 asian grinders around for about 8bears.



    I was 39 about to ding 40 and logged in tonight only to find that the game was no more, fuelling my theory that this game had no substance whatsoever and the only content was grinding. I never got to pvp which I could do at lvl 10 in WoW. I never seen any raids/instances which I could in WoW from 10 to 60. I only visited 2 zones which I only grinded in. The same quest rate, 1 sometime 2 per lvl.I know its still a beta but the game is nothing more than a straight road (literally) with higher lvl mobs to kill on the way to the next zone. Again in other games I had multiple zones to lvl in, I had the choice to grind to lvl and do other things as well, in some crafting, questing in others, pvping rarely. All In all, im not surprised to see the company Persistant Worlds go down. It serves them right for trying to profit off such a bad product/service.



    Death to the crooks.
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