Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!

Craptastic performance

I play on a near-to-minimum requirement system at the moment.  P4 2.6, NVIDIA w/128, IDE hard drive instead of SETA, 1 gig of RAM.  I have bought and tried to play the game, but even on maximum performance - where everything looks pretty darn awful - it just isn't playable.  SO... it would be an easy enough thing to drop into the local nerd chop-shop on my way home and pick up an NVIDIA w/512 on board.  But will that make the difference?  I hate to go blow a hundred and some bucks only to discover that unless I'm committed to a new chipset and hard drive, I can consider my Vanguard career over before it started.  Anyone want to hazard a guess as to whether or not I'd be likely to succeed with just this one upgrade?
«1

Comments

  • DikamekDikamek Member Posts: 12

    What is the "NVIDIA w/128"?

    Dikamek

  • sirachmansirachman Member Posts: 8

    If you would like constructive advice on vanguard I would suggest going to one of the following dot com websites: vanguardspheres  or  silkyvenom

    I could try to offer assistance but I am not completely qualified, and most people here will just flame your post with OMG VaN sUKzz02z!! and crap but there are some good hardware experts and a much better Van community at those other places so I would give them a go=)

  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094
    I recomend as a min a geforce 6800 or ati 800x you should get to play on balanced (medium) settings, ati plays better then geforce in this game. might consider getting another 1gig ram too. 



    VG is resource hog and thats its biggest problem at the moment.

    image

  • EthanaelEthanael Member UncommonPosts: 194
    Originally posted by Veingloria

    I play on a near-to-minimum requirement system at the moment.  P4 2.6, NVIDIA w/128, IDE hard drive instead of SETA, 1 gig of RAM.  I have bought and tried to play the game, but even on maximum performance - where everything looks pretty darn awful - it just isn't playable.  SO... it would be an easy enough thing to drop into the local nerd chop-shop on my way home and pick up an NVIDIA w/512 on board.  But will that make the difference?  I hate to go blow a hundred and some bucks only to discover that unless I'm committed to a new chipset and hard drive, I can consider my Vanguard career over before it started.  Anyone want to hazard a guess as to whether or not I'd be likely to succeed with just this one upgrade?
    Nvidia with 128 MB of memory really is vague. What series number is it?



    1 Gigabyte of RAM is very vague also.... What speed is this RAM? PC3200? PC400?



    We can only guess and make judgements, but the end result isn't going to mean anything if we don't know exactly what you're dealing with.



    I would say Upgrade your RAM before you make a large investment into a GFX card. Then again, pending your series number, you may want to upgrade your GFX card.



    Regards,
  • VeingloriaVeingloria Member Posts: 50
    Originally posted by Ethanael



    Nvidia with 128 MB of memory really is vague. What series number is it?



    1 Gigabyte of RAM is very vague also.... What speed is this RAM? PC3200? PC400?



    We can only guess and make judgements, but the end result isn't going to mean anything if we don't know exactly what you're dealing with.



    I would say Upgrade your RAM before you make a large investment into a GFX card. Then again, pending your series number, you may want to upgrade your GFX card.



    Regards,



    Okay, you're right, that was vague.  Here are the less vague stats and an "I dunno...":

    NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra 128 megs of Ram

    Also, humiliating though this is, I don't know what the speed of my RAM is, and  (this is so sad) I'm not sure how to find out?  Sorry, it's one of those "but HE was the one who managed our systems, before he left, that rat" kind of scenarios.  What I don't know about my computer is pretty scary.

  • DikamekDikamek Member Posts: 12
    I had a GeForce 5700 256mb card and it would barely run the game on the lowest settings.  This card is inadquate to run the game. upgrading to a GeForce 7800 GS really helped out.

    Dikamek

  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Originally posted by Veingloria

    I play on a near-to-minimum requirement system at the moment.  P4 2.6, NVIDIA w/128, IDE hard drive instead of SETA, 1 gig of RAM.  I have bought and tried to play the game, but even on maximum performance - where everything looks pretty darn awful - it just isn't playable.  SO... it would be an easy enough thing to drop into the local nerd chop-shop on my way home and pick up an NVIDIA w/512 on board.  But will that make the difference?  I hate to go blow a hundred and some bucks only to discover that unless I'm committed to a new chipset and hard drive, I can consider my Vanguard career over before it started.  Anyone want to hazard a guess as to whether or not I'd be likely to succeed with just this one upgrade?

    Refer to the thread "Video tweaks that worked" which is stickied at the top of the Vanguard section here. Within are some tweaks to the client file as well as other tweaks which will improve your performance drastically! It really will help a ton and you will likely be able to play on balanced.

    image
  • kattjakattja Member Posts: 112
    If you hit up the performance thread make sure you DO NOT touch the sysconfig.ini cache setting, it was debunked back around beta4(?) by Gebron(graphics programmer) if I remember correctly as being unused.



    It just wastes memory that would normally be used by the game if left alone.



    (edited for clarity)
  • HensenLirosHensenLiros Member Posts: 461

    Are you going to quit?

    Just asking because Vanguard costs 125$ here in Brazil and i'm really interested into playing it.

    Ultima Online 98~04
    Dark Age of Camelot 03~07
    Final Fantasy XI 04~06
    Guild Wars 05~08
    World of Warcraft 04~05
    Unsuccessful Tries: DFO/EQ2/DRaja/Rag/Req/RYL/9D/Cabal/KO/PSU/RF/GE/TO/TR/DDO/EVE/LoTRO/L2/RZ/SWG/VG

  • VeingloriaVeingloria Member Posts: 50

    I'm definately not quitting.  I know they are working on improving performance, and I have every faith that they will make this game playable on my current rig - or one with a slightly better vid card - soon enough.  There is too much I love about the game concepts for me to give up just because, at the moment, all of my characters seem to have cerebral palsey. 

     

    Originally posted by HensenLiros


    Are you going to quit?
    Just asking because Vanguard costs 125$ here in Brazil and i'm really interested into playing it.
  • DargnonDargnon Member Posts: 56
    My PC isnt very good, but with the settings almost on minimum and with decent resolution, i can play without much problems.
  • SnabeltorskSnabeltorsk Member CommonPosts: 29
    At 1280X1024 i have a Min FPS of 70 so it works great with nice graphics :) 
  • Nitros284Nitros284 Member Posts: 82

    Gamespy ran SLI geforce 6800's and couldn't even get past 5 FPS with their normal resolution.

    That's pathetic. Vanguard truly does have craptastic performance.

  • Nitros284Nitros284 Member Posts: 82
    Snabeltorsk, what are your settings and what is your hardware? Very curious if you are getting 70 FPS, unless that's an exageration.
  • Gangster-ManGangster-Man Member Posts: 143
    Originally posted by Nitros284


    Gamespy ran SLI geforce 6800's and couldn't even get past 5 FPS with their normal resolution.
    That's pathetic. Vanguard truly does have craptastic performance.

     

    well sli sint even intergrated yet, second of all my friend with a damn 6200 gets 30ies so eithe ru facts are wrong, or their pc sucks mnore than paris hilton.

  • Nitros284Nitros284 Member Posts: 82

    My facts are wrong?

    Sorry, but here's a direct link.

    http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/vanguard-saga-of-heroes/759481p1.html

    I don't believe you either.

    A 6200 getting 30 fps? That's impossible with Vanguard.

  • brihtwulfbrihtwulf Member UncommonPosts: 975
    +
    Originally posted by HensenLiros


    Are you going to quit?
    Just asking because Vanguard costs 125$ here in Brazil and i'm really interested into playing it.
    You know you can get the game on direct to drive, right?  Or you can even buy it from a US site and have them mail it to you (although it takes up to 2 weeks sometimes).  I think there are even some copies on e-bay you could buy, but again, international shipping applies...
  • vylovylo Member Posts: 149
    Originally posted by Nitros284


    Gamespy ran SLI geforce 6800's and couldn't even get past 5 FPS with their normal resolution.
    That's pathetic. Vanguard truly does have craptastic performance.
    SLI isn't supported by vanguard.
  • brihtwulfbrihtwulf Member UncommonPosts: 975
    Originally posted by Gangster-Man

    Originally posted by Nitros284


    Gamespy ran SLI geforce 6800's and couldn't even get past 5 FPS with their normal resolution.
    That's pathetic. Vanguard truly does have craptastic performance.

     

    well sli sint even intergrated yet, second of all my friend with a damn 6200 gets 30ies so eithe ru facts are wrong, or their pc sucks mnore than paris hilton.


    yeah, your friend is lying.  There is no way a PC with an Nvidia 6200 is going to run the game with 30FPS, unless you're on minimum settings with everything turned off.  In my opinion you should at least have a 7800 or better to run it with decent quality.
  • AbolithAbolith Member Posts: 34
    Originally posted by Nitros284


    Gamespy ran SLI geforce 6800's and couldn't even get past 5 FPS with their normal resolution.
    That's pathetic. Vanguard truly does have craptastic performance.


    Dude, why are you spamming the Vanguard forums w/BS spam about poor graphics and low fps?  You contradict yourself in every post, "game runs fine for me, but horrible performance."  You even posted that the game runs fine for you at 35fps so how is it that you get more fps than Gamespy?  What's your seceret?!?  Just do us all a favor and unplugg your computer, take it to Goodwill and got back to playing Candyland.

  • Nitros284Nitros284 Member Posts: 82

    One player reported getting high FPS (40-50) on SLI 7800.

    There's no way they got 40-50 FPS on one 7800.

    Do you guys even read the tech support forums? I played through the beta and after release and I read tons of posts on people's system specs and their resulted low FPS.

    Unless Vanguard is filled with bugs that prevent some people from getting higher FPS, then a lot of people are lying or exagerating.

  • RhadovanRhadovan Member Posts: 22

    Though your specs are low for this game, I would tell everyone not to be so up in arms about what your system is like. A lot of the performance issues are server/Sigil side. For instance my rig:

    Core 2 Duo e6600 @ 2.4ghz / 2gig PC 6400 (800mhz) DDR2 ram / nForce 680i mobo / 3.0g/s SATA hdd / BFG nVidia GeForce 7950gt 512 DDR3

    Doesn't get magnificent performance for what it has on it. I average just under 30fps overall... Now, I haven't tweaked or overclocked anything yet, but I should still run this game VERY well. But I still get a ton of stutter even on balanced. I really wonder about people who say they get constant 70fps.

    Anyway, all that to say a lot of the issues are server side. Even Sigil/SOE said they are trying to improve performance.

  • Nitros284Nitros284 Member Posts: 82

    "Dude, why are you spamming the Vanguard forums w/BS spam about poor graphics and low fps?  You contradict yourself in every post, "game runs fine for me, but horrible performance."  You even posted that the game runs fine for you at 35fps so how is it that you get more fps than Gamespy?  What's your seceret?!? "




    I hardly contradict myself. There's a big difference between poor performance and someone owning a high-end system. Could it have also occured to you that I have multiple computers? One that is high-end that can play Vanguard with 35 FPS (but it's high-end, so it SHOULD do 60 FPS) and another computer that is med-end that can barely even play Vanguard?
    Just because I can play the game at 35 FPS doesn't mean I contradict myself in saying it has poor performance. Any game that can't be run at 60 FPS on a system that cost thousands of dollars is poor performance. Also the fact that I can run Oblivion, BF2142, LOTR, all SMOOTHLY (I get 60-100 FPS in BF2142 on max settings, and very high on Oblivion with max settings as well)
    It's hardly a contradiction.
  • AbolithAbolith Member Posts: 34
    Originally posted by Rhadovan


    Though your specs are low for this game, I would tell everyone not to be so up in arms about what your system is like. A lot of the performance issues are server/Sigil side. For instance my rig:
    Core 2 Duo e6600 @ 2.4ghz / 2gig PC 6400 (800mhz) DDR2 ram / nForce 680i mobo / 3.0g/s SATA hdd / BFG nVidia GeForce 7950gt 512 DDR3
    Doesn't get magnificent performance for what it has on it. I average just under 30fps overall... Now, I haven't tweaked or overclocked anything yet, but I should still run this game VERY well. But I still get a ton of stutter even on balanced. I really wonder about people who say they get constant 70fps.
    Anyway, all that to say a lot of the issues are server side. Even Sigil/SOE said they are trying to improve performance.
    Your problem is that your duo core.  Hardly any game is setup to work w/duo core, hence, your performance issues.  Those w/them, generally have the lowest fps while those w/single core have the least amount of issues.
  • Nitros284Nitros284 Member Posts: 82

    Rhadovan, good post. I also agree about being skeptical of those who get 70 FPS. They must be lying.

    The only times I can get that high is if I turn off volumetric clouds and look at the sky for a minute without moving.

Sign In or Register to comment.