Lost all respect for Vavle today

Thrift

I cant believe what I seen today when I join any CS servers, they have put up ads in game now on the score board. Also on maps like dust2 there are ads for portal and intel. Now I know this isent such a big deal to most people here but think about it if no one speaks up about this it will spread through every game on steam I bet. Steam if full of crap ads anyways.

What are your thoughts on this.

Zorvan

Are you paying a fee or subscription to play on Valve's servers? If not, then you have nothing to complain about. They provide you a service for free. You just see some ads. Big deal.

Mylon

I'm already pissed at Valve at the moment because I can't play Counterstrike Source (or any other multiplayer Half-life 2 game).  I keep getting this weird DLL error and I cannot fix the problem.  There seems to be this obscure scripting engine supplied by Windows and only Half-life 2 uses it, as all of my other games work fine.



The fix for this problem seems to be to execute some obscure command that rebuilds this library, but this requires an XP SP2 disc ( I have an original XP disc ), and even after attempting to create an XP SP2 disc using another obscure feature of the SP2 upgrade, this obscure command fails.



I fail to see why Valve has not created a utility program to fix this given how important this library is to the functioning of the game.

Thrift

Originally posted by Zorvan

Are you paying a fee or subscription to play on Valve's servers? If not, then you have nothing to complain about. They provide you a service for free. You just see some ads. Big deal.

No but other people ARE paying for it, I wont buy a CS server if its full of ads for intel and there games.

edit: me and my friend usually buy a 20man pub server for two months each summer, we have been doing that for the past three years. I dont think thats going to happen because of this new problem.

baff

If the server host isn't recieving money for this, or hasn't given his express permission I'd be annoyed.

On the other hand isn't the game supplied free?

 

Can't he just use an older version of CS that doesn't have any advertising?

Zorvan

Originally posted by Mylon

I'm already pissed at Valve at the moment because I can't play Counterstrike Source (or any other multiplayer Half-life 2 game).  I keep getting this weird DLL error and I cannot fix the problem.  There seems to be this obscure scripting engine supplied by Windows and only Half-life 2 uses it, as all of my other games work fine.



The fix for this problem seems to be to execute some obscure command that rebuilds this library, but this requires an XP SP2 disc ( I have an original XP disc ), and even after attempting to create an XP SP2 disc using another obscure feature of the SP2 upgrade, this obscure command fails.



I fail to see why Valve has not created a utility program to fix this given how important this library is to the functioning of the game.

http://www.dll-files.com/

Veiled_light

I don't play CS anymore cause of it :P I hate seeing adverts in a game i paid for. IMO it makes it unplayable and ugly and i lost all respect for Valve ages ago but this just makes them as bad as EA.

modjoe86

I've never had any respect for Valve, so I can't really lose it.

As far as the game ads go, I paid $30 for the game, therefore I shouldn't have to look at ads. That should be a server side stipulation.

kaibigan34

I have gotten to the point where I ignore ads. Whether its a commercial on TV or a banner ad on a website. So it really doesnt bother me that they are dropping ads in games. I knew it was coming anyway. The USA used to be about freedom, mom's apple pie, and baseball. Now its all about "shop til you drop". What did Bush say after 9/11? Keep shopping. Ads are just another part of this.



Kai

Astropuyo

Originally posted by Zorvan

Are you paying a fee or subscription to play on Valve's servers? If not, then you have nothing to complain about. They provide you a service for free. You just see some ads. Big deal.

Have you actually ever played a Valve game multiplayer?

If so you'd know this is a server host thing; just because they use steam (which is actually used to demographically track/sell you games direct download more than any personal use) doesn't mean they can just start flinging ads at us.

First off, I paid 50 bucks for my total of HL2/DoD/CS , why the fuck do I need to see ads in my already paid for games?

It's not like this is free ware man. It's not about the ads so much as forcing advertising on us because they can.

I am pretty sure the server side has to be given a royalty too, thats the world of advertising. You can't just free push adverts on people.

It's a shitty world, but there is still a matter of people need to get paid, it's basically the same as this site. Would they push ads for free?

Hell no.

Spathotan

Heh, suckers. This is the price you pay for giving Valve money over and over and over again, rebuying the same, repackaged games.

Theyve made 3 mediocre games over the years, gotten you to buy each one 2-5 times over, then those little "episodes" for HL-2, get you to pay for "special" servers, then get even more money from placing ads on those servers you paid for.

Corporate greed has owned you all.

Mars505

Originally posted by Thrift


I cant believe what I seen today when I join any CS servers, they have put up ads in game now on the score board. Also on maps like dust2 there are ads for portal and intel. Now I know this isent such a big deal to most people here but think about it if no one speaks up about this it will spread through every game on steam I bet. Steam if full of crap ads anyways.
What are your thoughts on this.

This is a slanderous post.



Any ads you see on private servers are  the responsibility of the private hosts.

modjoe86

Originally posted by Mars505

Originally posted by Thrift


I cant believe what I seen today when I join any CS servers, they have put up ads in game now on the score board. Also on maps like dust2 there are ads for portal and intel. Now I know this isent such a big deal to most people here but think about it if no one speaks up about this it will spread through every game on steam I bet. Steam if full of crap ads anyways.
What are your thoughts on this.

This is a slanderous post.



Any ads you see on private servers are  the responsibility of the private hosts. Umm, wrong. I own a 16 man pub and a 12 man priv, from two different companies, and both have the same ads. Nice try.

Grunty

If you want to see where ads are going in MMORPGs, play 9 Dragons.  Be sure to play until you get the Lightfoot running skill.  Then go to a decent size map and start running.  You'll find out quickly enough why I am against any and all advertising in MMORPGs. 



The sad part is there are so many of you, the readers not the posters in this thread, that are saying ads are ok, that people like me are being drowned out.



I'll say it plainly.  No FUCKING ads in games.  Period!

modjoe86

Originally posted by grunty





I'll say it plainly.  No FUCKING ads in games.  Period!

I like the way you think.

Mylon

My thoughts on ads is that they are actually fine as long as they are kept to the level we see them in movies.



Theres a decent amount of advertising in most movies, but it's very subtle.  It's no mistake that the semi in the background of that street happens to be a Coca-cola truck.  Or that the protagonist is leaning back in his chair drinking a budweiser.  Most people never think about it, but this is how advertising is done in movies.  It wouldn't be too difficult for the rubble lying around the streets in Half-life 2 to be, say, TG Lee milk cartons and sprite cans, and no one would be wiser.

Draenor

If companies would be honest and pass the savings on to the consumer then I would be all for ads in games...unfortunately they are putting these ads in games, while simultaneously jacking up the prices to "cover the increased cost of production with new hardware"

It's a sad state of affairs.

Draenor

Originally posted by Mylon

My thoughts on ads is that they are actually fine as long as they are kept to the level we see them in movies.



Theres a decent amount of advertising in most movies, but it's very subtle.  It's no mistake that the semi in the background of that street happens to be a Coca-cola truck.  Or that the protagonist is leaning back in his chair drinking a budweiser.  Most people never think about it, but this is how advertising is done in movies.  It wouldn't be too difficult for the rubble lying around the streets in Half-life 2 to be, say, TG Lee milk cartons and sprite cans, and no one would be wiser.

And stuff like that wouldn't bother me at all, if anything it would make me feel more immersed, although I think a world where the only kind of soda(pop/coke, whatever you want to call it) is sprite would suck. 

What's weird is that I just joined the "planetside reserves" where you can make a character and get him to level 6 without paying for the game, and they have in game advertisements for...Planetside.

dsorrent

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Originally posted by Mylon
My thoughts on ads is that they are actually fine as long as they are kept to the level we see them in movies.Theres a decent amount of advertising in most movies, but it's very subtle. It's no mistake that the semi in the background of that street happens to be a Coca-cola truck. Or that the protagonist is leaning back in his chair drinking a budweiser. Most people never think about it, but this is how advertising is done in movies. It wouldn't be too difficult for the rubble lying around the streets in Half-life 2 to be, say, TG Lee milk cartons and sprite cans, and no one would be wiser.

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I agree with this, but I think one of the issues is that the ads we see in movies and such, fit the genre. When they start doing creative stuff like what they think a Coke ad would be in the future or something, I think it detracts from the game because people look at the ad and criticize the artists speculation of a today company in the future.

d_sk12

I lost total respect for valve

when they banned my 6 accounts

i was good at CS:S

too but they kept banning me for hacking

whats so wrong about hacking

everybody does it at leat 1/3 servers in css

they never get banned its bullshit

sue valve and take there money

BLAhh

Blahh Blahh

ACE777

Originally posted by Mylon

My thoughts on ads is that they are actually fine as long as they are kept to the level we see them in movies.



Theres a decent amount of advertising in most movies, but it's very subtle.  It's no mistake that the semi in the background of that street happens to be a Coca-cola truck.  Or that the protagonist is leaning back in his chair drinking a budweiser.  Most people never think about it, but this is how advertising is done in movies.  It wouldn't be too difficult for the rubble lying around the streets in Half-life 2 to be, say, TG Lee milk cartons and sprite cans, and no one would be wiser.

Ahem. *cough*



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Do those look immersive?  Do they blend in real well?

ACE777

Originally posted by d_sk12


I lost total respect for valve
when they banned my 6 accounts
i was good at CS:S
too but they kept banning me for hacking
whats so wrong about hacking
everybody does it at leat 1/3 servers in css
they never get banned its bullshit
sue valve and take there money
BLAhh
Blahh Blahh

That was the funniest thing I've read all week.

Mylon

Originally posted by ACE777

Originally posted by Mylon

My thoughts on ads is that they are actually fine as long as they are kept to the level we see them in movies.



Theres a decent amount of advertising in most movies, but it's very subtle.  It's no mistake that the semi in the background of that street happens to be a Coca-cola truck.  Or that the protagonist is leaning back in his chair drinking a budweiser.  Most people never think about it, but this is how advertising is done in movies.  It wouldn't be too difficult for the rubble lying around the streets in Half-life 2 to be, say, TG Lee milk cartons and sprite cans, and no one would be wiser.

Ahem. *cough*



screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/9187b129ab31e710346451ec3f5e9346e4ee2e83.png

screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/799289e77db17b2393afa27b82a102f7efff5e22.png

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Do those look immersive?  Do they blend in real well?

Eww.  Very much eww.  Not a "movie" type ad at all.

Kurush

kel11

Originally posted by Kurush

Rofl

Jackcolt

Originally posted by d_sk12


I lost total respect for valve
when they banned my 6 accounts
i was good at CS:S
too but they kept banning me for hacking
whats so wrong about hacking
everybody does it at leat 1/3 servers in css
they never get banned its bullshit
sue valve and take there money
BLAhh
Blahh Blahh

If you cheated you weren't good at CS:S. If you cheated you acknoweldged that you are a retard.