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Major Disappointment
Deadzo
Member Posts: 29
A 3-D diablo with only 1 character slot, Dungeon Runners is not a bad time waster, but falls short of my expectations of the "infinite free RPG", and is absolutely not worth a subscription fee.
It's not free, (unless you don't want to use the good weapons and don't really care about loot), and it is definitely not worth a 5$/month fee. The "free" equiptment is truely the equivalent of fighting with cardboard weapons, the inventory space is tiny enough to be a mini game in itself; even with stacking potions, you'll be running to the town constantly. Purple & Rainbow weapons are uber in comparison; if this was WSG, consider yourself pwned by teh 19 rogloz.
Not unlike diablo, everytime you log in to continue, you're forced to run through the entire dungeon to get back to the part you left off at. No save points. Since you have quests to do in different levels of the dungeons, and since you're constantly hopping back to Townton, you could easily waste hours commuting and not accomplish anything; just to log out & log back in & do it all over again tomorrow.
Is there a reason I'm stuck with one character? Oh, so you're going to just lump all the skills into a pile next month; I guess that's cool.
The outdoor areas drop framerate so bad as to make them almost entirely unplayable; kind of bad because the starter town and starter area are outdoors.
I came into DR hoping for endless, rich, rpg content. Like baulders gate for PS2, yet the levels and areas and creatures and loot just never ended. Constantly they would be working on new dungeons (not resets of the same dungeon), because this was how the game would be funded! They'd have to throw something interesting out there, and for a small fee, I could have access to it too! Perfect! I'll pay for that!
It was a noble idea. This? Seriously you need to stop sitting around the board room thinking "what else can we half-a$$ and call an MMO?" "MMORPGs are sellin like hotcakes, we need to be in the *now* gentlemen!" It's like the idea that everything needs to be animated to be an appealing television series to my demographic. Enough with the mmo.
It's not too bad of a "game", it's just a feeble "mmo." Don't spend that fiver all in one place.
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-Currently looking forward to FFXIV
-Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda
What the creators fail to realize is, there are much BETTER ways to waste your time. This game isn't even worth it.
What the creators fail to realize is, there are much BETTER ways to waste your time. This game isn't even worth it. I disagree. To me, 5 bucks really isn't very much money. 5 bucks for a few hours a week for a game thats a bit different with a bit of humor is money well spent. Guess its just personal taste.
-Currently looking forward to FFXIV
-Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda
-Currently looking forward to FFXIV
-Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda
But only by paying, yes? (I believe that would be the case for me, but as YOU say, MY time would be better spent somewhere else. :P)
But only by paying, yes? (I believe that would be the case for me, but as YOU say, MY time would be better spent somewhere else. :P) Right. The 5 bucks a month is worth it to keep me entertained for a few months. Oh, and by the way, if your in to killing your self slowy you can take that 6 bucks you would spend on a burger at hardee's and get 6 double chesse burgers and Mcdonalds. But then again, your might prefer to spend 6 bucks on a hardees burger where I prefer to spend 1 on a Mcdonalds double cheese burger. Funny how that personal taste thing works...
-Currently looking forward to FFXIV
-Currently playing EvE and Global Agenda
Wow, so much anger... I certainly respect your opinion, but I'd like to reply to some of your points:
I don't understand why being a Diablo-clone is a bad thing. Lots of players like a good hack-n-slash. This fits the bill for me and many others.
I, and many others, disagree. Then again, it's my money I'm spending... I'm sorry you feel otherwise.
Not true. When you reset the game, whether you do so manually or when you do so by logging out, you are able to return via obelisk just inside the last door through which you entered. As an example, if you entered Sissirat's Lair through the Algernon 7 door and then logged or reset your instances, you could still go back to Sissirat's lair via the obelisk the next time you played. If you last entered Algernon 7 from Algernon 6 and subsequently set a waypoint somewhere in the middle of Algernon 7 before you logged, then yes, you would lose your waypoint AND the instance would be reset, but you'd still be able to start in Algernon 7 the next time. You wouldn't have to run through the entire dungeon just to get back to Algernon 7.
That being said, I do agree that if you logged in Algernon 7, but still had to go back down to Algernon 5 to complete quests, you would have to clear 6 and 5 again. Personally, I don't care for this and would prefer that all quests be able to be completed in town...
Stephen has said that multiple characters will be available to accounts in the "near future". I believe the original intent for limiting accounts was for 'security', basically a way to prevent players from sharing $5 accounts.
This is not a global issue, so it's unfair to include it in an overall review. Most of the thousands of players don't have any fps problems. For those that do, lowering foliage, resolution or turning off AntiAliasing helps with FPS rates. There's also a posted fix for adding a line to the user.cfg file, which has helped many players tremendously. Furthermore, in the patch notes for tomorrow, there are listed fixes for older DX8 hardware and additional performance enhancements.
The game was literally just released. How can you possibly complain that it hasn't evolved? You actually have to wait for it to be released and for content to be introduced (or not introduced) in order to complain about the lack of change. Think of games like Everquest with multiple expansions over the years, City of Heroes with soon-to-be nine issues, etc... This game will continue to evolve. There will be new dungeons, PvP, guilds, etc... No game ever had everything everybody ever wanted from it's inception. Heck, look at NWN2 - it barely ran at release for many players...
As a counterpoint to your reivew, I offer one I threw together on mmorpg.com:
Dungeon Runners Review
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~Ripper
NOT Ripper in game...
NOT McGee in game...
NOT TheRipper in game...
/sigh
Oh well, no loss.
I got a free "Beta Key" today. Really, these aren't Beta Keys, they are an attempt to get new players into this terrible game.
I played for less than 2 hours. I knew by then it was just awful. I honestly cannot understand how "Devs" put out content like this in 2007. I mean, do they not play real MMOs? Or its it they just have no creativity and work for a company that wants to exploit kids?
I have a hard time reconciling that this game is even on MMORPG.com. Its not an MMO and it is even worse than Runescape or Pirate King. And they're bad.
Seriously, devs on this game ... its AWFUL, you know it, and you just dont care. That's why you will never get anywhere with your lives.
What the creators fail to realize is, there are much BETTER ways to waste your time. This game isn't even worth it.I disagree. To me, 5 bucks really isn't very much money. 5 bucks for a few hours a week for a game thats a bit different with a bit of humor is money well spent. Guess its just personal taste.I agree Rollo. It all comes down to personal taste. This game is exactly what it was trying to be. A slightly entertaining hack and slash that would last you a couple months. I kind of enjoy the mindless fun just to go out and dungeon romp for a little while. I think I enjoy it so much that I am going to purchase a 3-month subscription. It is only $14.97 for 3 months. Heck I spend $8 every time I hit Burger King. So hitting Burger King 3 times a week for a month comes out to be close to $100! $14.97 for 3 months seems like a pretty good investment to curtail boredom when I have nothing else to do.
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Control is an illusion!
I kinda like the game (not that im playing it much but just for a short break still lvl 16 :P)
But NC on the other hand is probably why i wont play much more , its "out of beta" and still they keep changing stuff like downgrading weapons.
And knowing NC this wont be the last time , be prepared for alot more nerves coming up :P
Charname : HotSpot -- Ranger
well after 3 months i finally deleted my char and the game. after 2 months and a bit i stopped playing, waiting for the january patch before i decided to buy membership or not, having hit lvl 50 and having nothing to do but grind. yes the JANUARY patch arrived in march. big on promises the dev team. also good at springing nasty suprises on their player base
all of these were sprung on them with less than a week's notice or none at all
1. billing going live (1 week)
2. board wipe (got 2 days notice)
3. Nerfing rangers damage by 30-50% (one person reported 70% reduc)
4. adding mob AI which causes many of them to run away from you the moment you touch them
5. increased boss difficulty to the point that some of them became literally impossible (possible maybe if every over 50+ players grouped, but you can only have 5 in a group)
6. spells got nerfed for all classes
this game has little long term playability. it is highly addictive to begin with and slowly ends up a grind, with no end game at all. proved by the whole 3 players that have ever maxxed and the about 3% retention rate of toons over lvl 40.
play this game if you have nothing better to do.. or want something to fill in your time whilst you're waiting to get paid to pay for your next month of Wow, or just looking for something for a couple of weeks.
Just another kill a loot grindfest game, not worth a monthly fee.
@RINOK:
""The game was literally just released. How can you possibly complain that it hasn't evolved? You actually have to wait for it to be released and for content to be introduced (or not introduced) in order to complain about the lack of change. Think of games like Everquest with multiple expansions over the years, City of Heroes with soon-to-be nine issues, etc... This game will continue to evolve. There will be new dungeons, PvP, guilds, etc... No game ever had everything everybody ever wanted from it's inception. Heck, look at NWN2 - it barely ran at release for many players... ""
You miss my point; this was the original payment plan for Dungeon Runners. They were supposed to create new content constantly, and you could pay to access it. I read far too much into this, and assumed they were gunning for WoW, intelligently. I was wrong.
All this "gimme five bucks!!" for potion slots & any useable item nonsense is new.
It doesn't matter really what the excuse is for a monthly fee though. That's all these companies are doing now is looking for stupid, half baked ideas to bill you monthly. That's it.
Everyone likes diablo's gameplay; go buy Diablo 2, VampireTM redemption hack n' slash, or any of the single player games based off diablo, and you'll be playing a better game with no bills.
Also, I'm pretty sure it was lag in the outdoor areas, because everyone started complaining about it at the same time.
that is the dumbest thing ive ever heard someone say about this game. why does every MMO have to be compared to WoW. I loved this game when i played it, but i never looked at it as a game that i would play for years non stop. Its like diablo, you play it for a while, become uber, then stop, and do it again. But then again i think of this game as much of an MMO as Guild Wars.
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Note: PlayNC will refuse to allow you access to your account if you forget your password and can't provide a scanned image of the product key for the first product you purchased..... LOL
Mmm that is interesting, i like this game, but i also like other games such as WoW and GW, i think this game is fantastic for this small team. anyways paying or not paying has lot of to say. Many persons, like me, dont and wont or cant have credit cards to pay fantastic games such as WoW or Lineage or whatever it is, there is an alternative, prepaid cards, i begged to the dev of D&R to send prepaid cards to portugal, honastly i dont know if it will be of use, i ran shops other day , and i surprised found prepaid cards for World Of Warcraft, yes indeed i dont visit shops all the time, and wow was just 19.99€, i was like... "This could be my chance to play wow....! yes!!!" i bought the game and in 5 days ill be buying a prepaid card which gives you 2 months of playing plus 30 day free month which came with the game, that makes 3 months , and in those 3 months i bet i could make money for like 3 prepaid cards, well i wont, if i do it will be 1 in 2 months, but if you see that, problem isnt having money, part of the problem is having a method of payment, in my case and in many others, i reckon.
Keep Cool!
when he compared the game to wow, i did too when i first logged in, well the thing that made me think and compare to wow was the quests , u know the exclamation and interrogation points, yellow and grey. well that was the only thing i could compare so far, now i quit D&R because im moving to wow
, i like it better, many ppl do, and im not saying wow is the Dev Mmorpg, if u know what i mean, wow is a game where many ppl like to play in, and i do too, wow is...."WOW!" i think :P
Stay kool
Sadly when I saw the screenshot, I thought that the game won t worth it, and since I can t find anyone liking the beta, I should pass on this game
I like the game a lot and play on a regular basis, as do many other players.
Also, the game isn't in beta - it's in limited release.
~Ripper
The best things I have seen that really make the game enjoyable is:
1. No botting or hacking to make questing/leveling impossible.
2. No chat spamming to piss you off or give you headaches.
3. There is NO ksing anywhere in the game, the dungeon you enter is private to only you or your party.
4. A character can be ANY class when you get the skills you want with their classless system.
5. Regardless of what type of character you want to be, you can use any type of weapons or armor.
6. New content is constantly being added on a regular basis and the Dev's DO come into the game and play, chat, help, and inform all of us regularly. Plus they inform us on their site too.
7. The GM's and Dev's actually do listen to their customers and the community ingame and on the site is quite friendly to everyone.
8. This game has been labeled as a never ending project like so many other games that stop adding new things after a while. The game and content will always be expanding to try to make it enjoyable for all types of players.
9. There is NO pvp abuse. Finally a game where players aren't wasting gametime by getting ganked on and lured onto when all they want to do is level up.
10. Being part of a game that continually asks us players for new weapon ideas, armor ideas, skill ideas, and we are responded to by a real staff member instead of some retarded auto-generated reply, or some stupid verbatim script response like a telemarketer sales pitch.
The people who are sitting here and saying how horrible it is, never even stayed in the game long enough to fully understand what is going on behind this game or know it's true concept. They all went into this game with some preset idea of what it SHOULD be like and because it's not like the other games they play, they get all pissy about it. Thats fine with me because then I know it's a game that will keep the hotheaded jerks out so the rest of us can have a blast in our closed community.
Players seem to love or hate Dungeon Runners. The ones that love it appreciate it for its humor, action, community and casual content. The ones that hate it appear to have preconceived notions of what the game should be Vs. what it actually is (a full mmorpg vs. a mmo-lite dungeon crawler).
The game is easy to get into (especially for casual players), has a great sense of humor, and is uncomplicated.
/sarcasm
To posters like zeroburrito, thank you for your thoughtful and intelligent synopsis.
/sarcasm off
It's one thing to dislike a game, but your post is simply trolling. If you don't like it, at least say why or be polite as in 'I played it, but didn't like it...'
~Ripper