My view about VG - 34 warrior perspective

Ligi

I am enjoying the game and I am having fun.

Also, I think the release couldnt go worse (3 months sooner and at same time as wow expasnion) but from now on it can only get better.

I think VG and EQ2 are very similar about subscriptions and initial criticism. EQ2 had very serious performance issues at release also.

Look at EQ2 now, its getting better re-reviews now at same time as alot of players are retrying it now.

I think VG will walk a similar path and in a year it will be one of the most interesting mmorpgs on the market and will have a fair subscription ( around 500 000)

On a side note, I can understand why some people are so disapointed with VG and I can respect that, but in all my sincerity the future isnt as dark as some might think 

xAlrythx

Good to hear you enjoy the game for what it is. As did I. Although eventually the relisation of where the game was heading was apparent to me. I just couldn't pay anymore for it, it just wasn't worth my time or money.

I have to disagree that VSoH has a future that is anywhere near bright.

They couldn't have released the game at a worse time. Straight after BC and right before the some of the most interesting titles we have seen in awhile (AoC, WAR, Aion the list goes on a fair bit). I just don't see people chosing VSoH over these new and improved games packed with innovation. I came to this conclusion after looking at a few points.

- The vision was no where near met and what was left of it was being pushed aside (exp weekends, exp raising, teleports {mainly for bugs though})

- The performance/bugs which did not bother me as much as it has to some people, I can get past them. The reason I bring up the issue is because Sigil are going to have a hard time getting everything good before the other games stampede through.

- Brad's pre-hype and the fanboi beta and post-beta hype.

I would honestly like to return to this game in the future and see how it has improved but I think it will be too late for them to recover and VSoH will just become not much more than a memory. I can't see VSoH being competition for the likes of WAR, Aion, AoC and other fantasy based MMORPGs and that's even if it met it's vision and released in a polished state.

My main point is, if I wanted to play something until these new games came out, it wouldn't be VG in it's current state.

Good luck to you.

SynxVII

I doubt that VG will make a come back like EQ2 has. Times are changing, a lot of games coming out in the not too distant future are having different combat systems, think AoC, TCoS and the fpsmmorpgs plus the other new features they have. VG doesn't have anything on them. Unless ALL the mmos comming out this year completely fail I doubt Vanguard will get more popular than it is now.

Shoal

Originally posted by Ligi


I am enjoying the game and I am having fun.
Also, I think the release couldnt go worse (3 months sooner and at same time as wow expasnion) but from now on it can only get better.
I think VG and EQ2 are very similar about subscriptions and initial criticism. EQ2 had very serious performance issues at release also.
Look at EQ2 now, its getting better re-reviews now at same time as alot of players are retrying it now.
I think VG will walk a similar path and in a year it will be one of the most interesting mmorpgs on the market and will have a fair subscription ( around 500 000)
On a side note, I can understand why some people are so disapointed with VG and I can respect that, but in all my sincerity the future isnt as dark as some might think 

Agree with most everything you say here, except that I do not believe V:SoH will ever have more than 200K subscribers, if that many.  It just may be that it has reached its 'Subscriber Cap' of 150k already.  Except for a few folks, just cannot see many more people signing up.  Especially with the new titles being released over the next 12 month span.

anarchyart

Originally posted by Ligi


I am enjoying the game and I am having fun.
Also, I think the release couldnt go worse (3 months sooner and at same time as wow expasnion) but from now on it can only get better.
I think VG and EQ2 are very similar about subscriptions and initial criticism. EQ2 had very serious performance issues at release also.
Look at EQ2 now, its getting better re-reviews now at same time as alot of players are retrying it now.
I think VG will walk a similar path and in a year it will be one of the most interesting mmorpgs on the market and will have a fair subscription ( around 500 000)
On a side note, I can understand why some people are so disapointed with VG and I can respect that, but in all my sincerity the future isnt as dark as some might think 

I agree with your post, as I too can understand some peoples dissapointment. I happen to enjoy the game in it's current state and have a good little guild to group and shoot the breeze with. There is much work to be done, but it gets better with every patch and heck I was loving it 2 months before launch anyway.

I tried playing LotRO, but I just couldn't handle the low polygon graphics and the simplistic hand-holding in the first few levels. Perhaps I will venture back at release, as I really would like to save Mordor, but for now no other MMORPG gives me the depth and grit that Vanguard has.