Worth it?

JimmyLegs

Any MxO players out there (ex or current) know if it's worth $20 or so (can get it for roughly $8 through Amazon.com) to play this game? I'm really bored with well... everything lol. I wish they had a trial for it or some kind of "buddy" key thing going on, even 7 days would be good.



I don't want to waste the money if it turns out to be absolute garbage or lag festo.

SkyJackal

Come on, $8, its worth it just to try er out for 30 days. =P

khanstruct

$8? Sure. Be sure to join the Vector server and look for the faction, Insurgence. I formed the group during beta and they're pretty much the dominating force now. Tell Hydrazine I say hello.

It eventually turned out to not be my thing, but who knows, you may love it. Either way, its definitely worth $8 to find out.

freiheit

Originally posted by khanstruct


$8? Sure. Be sure to join the Vector server and look for the faction, Insurgence. I formed the group during beta and they're pretty much the dominating force now. Tell Hydrazine I say hello.
It eventually turned out to not be my thing, but who knows, you may love it. Either way, its definitely worth $8 to find out.

Yeah it's worth the free month, but there really isn't much to the game at all.

 

Oh

LOL! Insurgence?

Dominating at what, roleplay? Never was a good guild. Check out if there are any jokerz left or talk to xmagnusx. He loves newbies.

aiolos121

To the OP, the only way one can hope to get anything out of this game anymore is to be a fan of the Matrix. Not the first movie, but the last two (I think we can all agree that the first movie had a vibe that the others failed to attain). If you're a gamer, however, you'll want to stay away from it and pick up Enter the Matrix or Path of Neo instead whilst checking out DN1 for story updates of course :P

Nightshade44

Originally posted by aiolos121


To the OP, the only way one can hope to get anything out of this game anymore is to be a fan of the Matrix. Not the first movie, but the last two (I think we can all agree that the first movie had a vibe that the others failed to attain). If you're a gamer, however, you'll want to stay away from it and pick up Enter the Matrix or Path of Neo instead whilst checking out DN1 for story updates of course :P

I wouldn't even go that far, as to say you might like this game if you are a fan of the matrix. I am a huge fan of the Matrix, and this game disappointed me to the point that I couldn't bring myself to watch the movies for a good while. I'm an old school MxOer, beta tested that game from near the beginning, became quite well known as a beta tester, and later a player after launch, was a high-profile member of arguably one of the most iconic and publicized factions of the game... So I'm not just some MMO hopper, though I consider myself an MMO vet. Anyway... MxO had outstanding potential, back in the day, I think the best stretch of time in MxO was in fact it's late stages of beta testing. After launch, it was pretty much downhill from there. The game's already suffered a total revamp, and is literally at this point hanging on by a thread, in some respects I'm still surprised it's still hanging on at all. There's an enormous lack of end-game content, aside from few and far between live events and hit or miss PvP, there really isn't much to do at all, aside from grind the same generic missions over and over, also known as elevator grinding. The great community that once inhabbited the game is pretty much gone, aside from a few lone wolfs that still stalk around the servers, there's not much hardcore RP at all.



So in a nutshell...



Game Mechanics: Poor

Content: Poor

Graphics: Decent

Customization: Poor

Combat: Decent

Community: Less than Par

Overall: Poor



It's really sad actually, I was a devout of this game at one point, and will always have some form of nostalgia for it. I really miss the beta days, and my faction... and it is sad to see such a great IP with so much potential become ruined, but that's the world of MMO's, do it right, or don't do it at all...

freiheit

Originally posted by Nightshade44

Originally posted by aiolos121


To the OP, the only way one can hope to get anything out of this game anymore is to be a fan of the Matrix. Not the first movie, but the last two (I think we can all agree that the first movie had a vibe that the others failed to attain). If you're a gamer, however, you'll want to stay away from it and pick up Enter the Matrix or Path of Neo instead whilst checking out DN1 for story updates of course :P

I wouldn't even go that far, as to say you might like this game if you are a fan of the matrix. I am a huge fan of the Matrix, and this game disappointed me to the point that I couldn't bring myself to watch the movies for a good while. I'm an old school MxOer, beta tested that game from near the beginning, became quite well known as a beta tester, and later a player after launch, was a high-profile member of arguably one of the most iconic and publicized factions of the game... So I'm not just some MMO hopper, though I consider myself an MMO vet. Anyway... MxO had outstanding potential, back in the day, I think the best stretch of time in MxO was in fact it's late stages of beta testing. After launch, it was pretty much downhill from there. The game's already suffered a total revamp, and is literally at this point hanging on by a thread, in some respects I'm still surprised it's still hanging on at all. There's an enormous lack of end-game content, aside from few and far between live events and hit or miss PvP, there really isn't much to do at all, aside from grind the same generic missions over and over, also known as elevator grinding. The great community that once inhabbited the game is pretty much gone, aside from a few lone wolfs that still stalk around the servers, there's not much hardcore RP at all.



So in a nutshell...



Game Mechanics: Poor

Content: Poor

Graphics: Decent

Customization: Poor

Combat: Decent

Community: Less than Par

Overall: Poor



It's really sad actually, I was a devout of this game at one point, and will always have some form of nostalgia for it. I really miss the beta days, and my faction... and it is sad to see such a great IP with so much potential become ruined, but that's the world of MMO's, do it right, or don't do it at all...

 

I agree but I don't think "poor" is good enough to describe content and overall.

BloodWork

Originally posted by freiheit

Originally posted by khanstruct


$8? Sure. Be sure to join the Vector server and look for the faction, Insurgence. I formed the group during beta and they're pretty much the dominating force now. Tell Hydrazine I say hello.
It eventually turned out to not be my thing, but who knows, you may love it. Either way, its definitely worth $8 to find out.

Yeah it's worth the free month, but there really isn't much to the game at all.

 

Oh

LOL! Insurgence?

Dominating at what, roleplay? Never was a good guild. Check out if there are any jokerz left or talk to xmagnusx. He loves newbies.

there are like no jokerz left...at least there wasn't when I quit the game, as for mag, I think he just came back

Cryptor

I just started playing two weeks ago or so, I think its great.  To be honest i dont see anything wrong with it at all, all it needs is an expansion of some kind to get new players and/or old players back.

aiolos121

Originally posted by Cryptor

I just started playing two weeks ago or so, I think its great.  To be honest i dont see anything wrong with it at all, all it needs is an expansion of some kind to get new players and/or old players back.

That first line was what we all thought as well, but once we hit 50, we found out we were horribly wrong, as will you. And don't count on an expansion, SoE isn't wasting that kind of money on MxO. This game's on life support.

SkyJackal

Cant say i've even hit 50 myself so i cant really comment on that but if what you say is true than all new players have to do is realise they shouldnt, like so many unfortunately do, speed grind through the game ignoring all the level appropriate content along the way.

freiheit

Originally posted by SkyJackal


Cant say i've even hit 50 myself so i cant really comment on that but if what you say is true than all new players have to do is realise they shouldnt, like so many unfortunately do, speed grind through the game ignoring all the level appropriate content along the way.

So it's taken you over two years to do what people had done in a few weeks? it's not hard and it doesn't take that much time. I mean two years, people have accidently hit 50 in a month or two, it's nearly impossible not to unless you don't play. It's quite obvious you DON'T play. No wonder you think MXO is great, you only read about it and ignore everything you read that strikes you as unpleasant. Your opinion = worthless. You have no clue what you're talking about, you don't play, please stop acting like you know anything about the game.

SeanDavis

So it's taken you over two years to do what people had done in a few weeks, it's not hard, nor does it take much time. You must ever even play. N wonder you think it's agreat. Your opinion = worthless. You have no clue what you're talking about if you haven'tt even hit 50 in over two yers. That's it.



Oh. My. God.



All the time, we’re trying to make it clear to you that our experience level is something we care less about, and we don’t do that because we find the mere level grind BORING.

We’re also trying to make it clear to you that there are apparently other activities (and not just RP) that we find more interesting, but which take more time and level you up much slowlier.



But you simply don’t understand. To you, levelling quickly and being level 50 is apparently the only focus in a game (no, I know you also value challenges and millions of quests, but for the sake of the argument, let’s forget about that),

everyone who levels too slowly does it because he can’t faster or because he doesn’t play enough (which would imply that there’s nothing to do here apart from grinding, which is outright false),

everyone who isn’t at level 50 and his opinion don’t matter.



There are several adjectives with a rather negative and condescending undertone to describe this point of view – among others, “closed-minded”, “blind”, “misguided”, or, regarding the last one, “elitist” (yea, I’m using this word correctly). Oh, I can’t think of any more. But that should suffice.



Or maybe you’re just faced with a glaring lack of arguments you can oppose to facts or positive opinions about MxO, and are looking for some irrelevant excuse to put your opponent down (=character assassination).

In this case, there’s just one adjective: “ludicrous”.

freiheit

Originally posted by SeanDavis

So it's taken you over two years to do what people had done in a few weeks, it's not hard, nor does it take much time. You must ever even play. N wonder you think it's agreat. Your opinion = worthless. You have no clue what you're talking about if you haven'tt even hit 50 in over two yers. That's it.



Oh. My. God.



All the time, we’re trying to make it clear to you that our experience level is something we care less about, and we don’t do that because we find the mere level grind BORING.

 

Which is exactly my point, the game is boring and the leveling process is mind numbing. But in over two years, it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO HIT 50 unless you don't play. I'm glad we agree.

We’re also trying to make it clear to you that there are apparently other activities (and not just RP) that we find more interesting, but which take more time and level you up much slowlier.

Such as?



But you simply don’t understand. To you, levelling quickly and being level 50 is apparently the only focus in a game (no, I know you also value challenges and millions of quests, but for the sake of the argument, let’s forget about that),

Yes character progression through content is the point of an MMO. You just want a chat room.

everyone who levels too slowly does it because he can’t faster or because he doesn’t play enough (which would imply that there’s nothing to do here apart from grinding, which is outright false),

everyone who isn’t at level 50 and his opinion don’t matter.

Yes, if you don't play the game, your opinion is worthless. Which obviously neither of you do.  It's like asking the pope for sex advice.



There are several adjectives with a rather negative and condescending undertone to describe this point of view – among others, “closed-minded”, “blind”, “misguided”, or, regarding the last one, “elitist” (yea, I’m using this word correctly). Oh, I can’t think of any more. But that should suffice.

Or maybe you’re just faced with a glaring lack of arguments you can oppose to facts or positive opinions about MxO, and are looking for some irrelevant excuse to put your opponent down (=character assassination).

In this case, there’s just one adjective: “ludicrous”.

 

Maybe you should play the game then give opinions, not vague BS like this. You admit the game is boring and lack content, we agree. What gamer, not hardcore matrix fan, wants to play a game where character progression is so limited and boring that he can't be bothered to do a simple task like leveling up in under two years?

SeanDavis

We’re also trying to make it clear to you that there are apparently other activities (and not just RP) that we find more interesting, but which take more time and level you up much slowlier.

Such as?



Searching for: static content other than standard missions.



Neighborhood contact missions, Pandora's Box, archive missions / critical missions (note the slash, it's really the same). Now you're probably gonna say this isn't much compared to other MMOs, or it's nothing but the same standard missions with text, but the point is, we find them more interesting because of this, and naturally, if you do longer missions and take time to read and follow them, getting less XP at the end anyway, it takes you longer to level up than when you powerlevel grind with friends.



And no, I haven't been playing very much in the day. The exceptions make up for the days where I didn't play at all. Never claimed anything else.







Yes character progression through content is the point of an MMO. You just want a chat room.



Not the point, one of the points. Maybe even one of the main points. But certainly not the only one.

The "chat room" comparison is nothing but a hyperbole, and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and take it as such.



If you want the obvious elaborations, feel free to ask so I can enjoy explaining it to you (I'm forced to be that nice, sorry).



Yes, if you don't play the game, your opinion is worthless. Which obviously neither of you do.



By "playing the game", you mean "levelling up". Seriously, for the future: look at the exact content of a post, and how it corresponds to a supposed ignorance you want to accuse your opponent of.



Someone who doesn't play the game enough, or plays the "wrong" parts of it, shouldn't talk about the quantity of content, the average time you need for it, or about the parts he doesn't know. I haven't talked about anything of this, I think, so I'm sorry to disappoint you.

freiheit

Originally posted by SeanDavis





So it took you a year and a half to do a weeks worth of stuff. I convinced you haven't even logged in to do that.









Not the point, one of the points. Maybe even one of the main points. But certainly not the only one.

The "chat room" comparison is nothing but a hyperbole, and I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and take it as such.



If you want the obvious elaborations, feel free to ask so I can enjoy explaining it to you (I'm forced to be that nice, sorry).
No it's the point, you can't even mention any others because you're wrong.







By "playing the game", you mean "levelling up". Seriously, for the future: look at the exact content of a post, and how it corresponds to a supposed ignorance you want to accuse your opponent of.
No I mean logging in and playing, which if you do, will result in you leveling up,  it's how things work, you play, you get xp, you level. Iit's kind of the point of the game, character progression. All thsi other stuff is better suited for a free chatroom.



Someone who doesn't play the game enough, or plays the "wrong" parts of it, shouldn't talk about the quantity of content, the average time you need for it, or about the parts he doesn't know. I haven't talked about anything of this, I think, so I'm sorry to disappoint you.
You don't play, virtually at all, that's obvious, so you shouldn't comment on any of it.

SeanDavis

So it took you a year and a half to do a weeks worth of stuff. I convinced you haven't even logged in to do that.



I've never paid anyone to do it for me, so be careful with your word choice.



No. I started out with standard missions mostly and reached level 25 (averagely) with three characters simultaneously, and only after a time "discovered" that I could get more out of the game. I also used to chat more back in the day, or to explore the world. I've finished all of this a few months ago, including reaching level 50. A bit less than 1 1/2 years, so sorry.





No it's the point, you can't even mention any others because you're wrong.



Narrow-mindedness ftw.



Large world design, diverse interaction with players, RP, a way to tell stories as no other medium can, and more general game virtues like good effects/animations, virtual environments, combat, challenges etc.



Nevermind that, the only point in MMOs is levelling up your character. 





No I mean logging in and playing, which if you do, will result in you leveling up,  it's how things work, you play, you get xp, you level. Iit's kind of the point of the game, character progression. All thsi other stuff is better suited for a free chatroom.



Well, that's what I did level from 25 to 50 without doing a single standard mission, mr. holmes.

Just much slowlier than if I had spent the same time on standard missions.



Nevermind that events or role play don't give XP, and farming grey mobs only gives info, and nothing of this can be done in a chat room.



If you log in, you get XP automatically, and if you haven't reached level 50 in one week, you haven't played. You're totally right, I agree with you.



You don't play, virtually at all, that's obvious, so you shouldn't comment on any of it.



I'm entitled to comment on anything I know about.



What you're trying to do is introducing arbitrary requirements for opinions to matter (being at level 50, playing lots of hours each day, more or less), even if the contents of the opinions involve totally different things than these, and that's elitism.

freiheit

Originally posted by SeanDavis





I've never paid anyone to do it for me, so be careful with your word choice.



No. I started out with standard missions mostly and reached level 25 (averagely) with three characters simultaneously, and only after a time "discovered" that I could get more out of the game. I also used to chat more back in the day, or to explore the world. I've finished all of this a few months ago, including reaching level 50. A bit less than 1 1/2 years, so sorry.

So in other words, you never really log in.





No it's the point, you can't even mention any others because you're wrong.



Narrow-mindedness ftw.



Large world design, diverse interaction with players, RP, a way to tell stories as no other medium can, and more general game virtues like good effects/animations, virtual environments, combat, challenges etc.



Nevermind that, the only point in MMOs is levelling up your character. 

The world in MXO is tiny. interaction with players, whoa basic internet shit, good selling point. RP, same thing. Grpahics, storytelling, more pointless RP crap. Then you go on to reword the exact same thing a few times. Combat, challenges? Really where? Running around fighting over a phone both for no reason or reward?





No I mean logging in and playing, which if you do, will result in you leveling up,  it's how things work, you play, you get xp, you level. Iit's kind of the point of the game, character progression. All thsi other stuff is better suited for a free chatroom.



Well, that's what I did level from 25 to 50 without doing a single standard mission, mr. holmes.

Just much slowlier than if I had spent the same time on standard missions.



Nevermind that events or role play don't give XP, and farming grey mobs only gives info, and nothing of this can be done in a chat room.

Yes it can, get a dice roller and a DM.

I'm entitled to comment on anything I know about.



What you're trying to do is introducing arbitrary requirements for opinions to matter (being at level 50, playing lots of hours each day, more or less), even if the contents of the opinions involve totally different things than these, and that's elitism.

If you log in, you get XP automatically, (BY ACTUALLY PLAYING) and if you haven't reached level 50 in one week, you haven't played. You're totally right, I agree with you.

I know you understood that so don't be disingenuous. When you log in and play, and not sit around and chit chat, you do get xp. I am totally right

I'm pointing out that you don't play and don't understand much about the game and that since you don't play, your comments about it's content are worthless, again, see my pope comment. You play for a few mins here and there and your foucus is RP, great, that's good, but that doesn't mean MXO is nearly deviod of game content. It is, and there are no plans to do anything about it.

SeanDavis

So in other words, you never really log in.



This is the only thing this paragraph:

"I started out with standard missions mostly and reached level 25 (averagely) with three characters simultaneously, and only after a time "discovered" that I could get more out of the game. I also used to chat more back in the day, or to explore the world. I've finished all of this a few months ago, including reaching level 50. A bit less than 1 1/2 years, so sorry."



... didn't say. I don't even know where you've pulled this nonsense. I know a certain place.





The world in MXO is tiny. interaction with players, whoa basic internet shit, good selling point. RP, same thing. Grpahics, storytelling, more pointless RP crap. Then you go on to reword the exact same thing a few times. Combat, challenges? Really where? Running around fighting over a phone both for no reason or reward?



I wanted to include a disclaimer, but thought it was too obvious.



What I said wasn't in reference to MxO particularly, Mister Smart, it was about "what points there are in MMOs". No way?



But cool, let's apply it to MxO.

World is tiny? Who cares, it's still much larger than single player levels (as far as I know), it's still a free, all-accessible and static environment you can enter simultaneously with any amount of other players, everything of this being one of the points of an MMO, and obviously applying to MxO. So what, there are larger worlds?



Interaction with players? Well yea, in order to have a chatroom, you need people. I thought I'd help you out before you put your foot into another self-contradiction.

Yea, when you normally log in somewhere other than Mara or another popular hardline, big chances are you won't see anyone. Doesn't change anything about the fact that you can still run across others, you can still fight against or play with other players, especially if knowing each other and stuff, and that there are player and dev events, or simply times, where there's a large crowd of players, something you couldn't have anywhere else than in an MMO.



And yea, by "interaction" I mean everything that exceeds talking to the other player in the chat box, and this is "basic internet shit".

Obviously, interacting, orRPing with real character models in a 3D environment, with the ability to collaborate or fight each other, is more than "basic internet shit" can offer, so pwnt.



Storytelling is crap? Storytelling rules!

Graphics are RP crap? What a shame, graphics have nothing to do with RP, only with video games. An own goal at its best.



"Fighting over a hardline" is what you limit the entire combat of MxO? Or even limiting all combat to PvP? You seriously wanna say there are no item rewards for combat in MxO? You know what, you're totally right, I agree with you, blah blah. I won't discuss trivial facts about the game with you, at least not anymore.

If staring at a game while playing it doesn't make you see there are rewards for combat, a stupid idiot like me certainly won't.



Yes it can, get a dice roller and a DM.



No, it can't. I don't know what a DM is, but it still can't and you're wrong.



I'm pointing out that you don't play and don't understand much about the game and that since you don't play, your comments about it's content are worthless, again, see my pope comment. You play for a few mins here and there and your foucus is RP, great, that's good, but that doesn't mean MXO isn't nearly deviod of game content. It is, and there are no plans to do anything about it.



Yea, hence I'm now level 50 and not level 2. I just chit-chatted on a bench and RPed, but got to level 50 with one character, and to level 25 with two others.



I don't f***ing understand why you're so fixed on your brilliant Pope comparison.

Let's look at it, there are lots of ability classes I don't have and never have used, hence I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM.

I only know the basic stuff about the abilities I use, hence I DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM IN DETAIL OR ABOUT ABILITY BALANCE.

I've never PvPed apart from partaking in random noob assaults (in both roles), hence I DON'T TALK ABOUT THE QUALITY OR FUN OF PVP.

I've never partaken in a live event, hence I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW GREAT IT IS TO PARTAKE IN A LIVE EVENT.

I only know the basic stuff about the Marketplace, coding or bugs/exploits, hence I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BUGS, EXPLOITS, MARKETPLACE OR CODING!

I have never RPed in the game, hence I DON'T TALK ABOUT INGAME RP EXPERIENCE!



This can go on forever. Apparently, what I'm talking about is what I know about, so say what you want.



The Pope doesn't have sex, but he certainly knows a lot about it. I don't partake in live events but know enough about what's going on there so I can easily disprove some stupid nonsense you or someone else say about it.





And come on, let's define what "game content" is.

freiheit

Originally posted by SeanDavis



This is the only thing this paragraph:

"I started out with standard missions mostly and reached level 25 (averagely) with three characters simultaneously, and only after a time "discovered" that I could get more out of the game. I also used to chat more back in the day, or to explore the world. I've finished all of this a few months ago, including reaching level 50. A bit less than 1 1/2 years, so sorry."



... didn't say. I don't even know where you've pulled this nonsense. I know a certain place.

What?





The world in MXO is tiny. interaction with players, whoa basic internet shit, good selling point. RP, same thing. Grpahics, storytelling, more pointless RP crap. Then you go on to reword the exact same thing a few times. Combat, challenges? Really where? Running around fighting over a phone both for no reason or reward?



I wanted to include a disclaimer, but thought it was too obvious.



What I said wasn't in reference to MxO particularly, Mister Smart, it was about "what points there are in MMOs". No way?



But cool, let's apply it to MxO.

World is tiny? Who cares, it's still much larger than single player levels (as far as I know), it's still a free, all-accessible and static environment you can enter simultaneously with any amount of other players, everything of this being one of the points of an MMO, and obviously applying to MxO. So what, there are larger worlds?

Pretty easy to see and do everything in Columbus Ohio as opposed to NYC.



Interaction with players? Well yea, in order to have a chatroom, you need people. I thought I'd help you out before you put your foot into another self-contradiction.

Yea, when you normally log in somewhere other than Mara or another popular hardline, big chances are you won't see anyone. Doesn't change anything about the fact that you can still run across others, you can still fight against or play with other players, especially if knowing each other and stuff, and that there are player and dev events, or simply times, where there's a large crowd of players, something you couldn't have anywhere else than in an MMO.+

As I said, basic internet shit. Stunning features you got there, lots of content to be had.



And yea, by "interaction" I mean everything that exceeds talking to the other player in the chat box, and this is "basic internet shit".

Obviously, interacting, orRPing with real character models in a 3D environment, with the ability to collaborate or fight each other, is more than "basic internet shit" can offer, so pwnt.

No not at all. See chatroom, as I said L2RP. Also as I've said a few times, a chat room with kung fu. So yeah, you don't need this game to do any of that but it has some features which can distinguish it from a chatroom but it's pretty much lacking as a game.



Storytelling is crap? Storytelling rules!

Graphics are RP crap? What a shame, graphics have nothing to do with RP, only with video games. An own goal at its best.

It's basic stuff, it's like saying this car is great because it has doors, well duh.



"Fighting over a hardline" is what you limit the entire combat of MxO? Or even limiting all combat to PvP? You seriously wanna say there are no item rewards for combat in MxO? You know what, you're totally right, I agree with you, blah blah. I won't discuss trivial facts about the game with you, at least not anymore.

If staring at a game while playing it doesn't make you see there are rewards for combat, a stupid idiot like me certainly won't.

Oh you meant PVE "combat" as in basic game shit. Yeah, as I've said, it has a little bit while leveling but no end game and there isn't much in the way of PVE comabt even while leveling.



Yes it can, get a dice roller and a DM.



No, it can't. I don't know what a DM is, but it still can't and you're wrong.

Dungeon master, and a dice roller, all you need for roleplaying including combat. L2RP

In two years, most players want their character progression to go a bit faster and have some meaning/rewards.



I don't f***ing understand why you're so fixed on your brilliant Pope comparison.

Let's look at it, there are lots of ability classes I don't have and never have used, hence I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THEM.

I only know the basic stuff about the abilities I use, hence I DON'T TALK ABOUT THEM IN DETAIL OR ABOUT ABILITY BALANCE.

I've never PvPed apart from partaking in random noob assaults (in both roles), hence I DON'T TALK ABOUT THE QUALITY OR FUN OF PVP.

I've never partaken in a live event, hence I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW GREAT IT IS TO PARTAKE IN A LIVE EVENT.

I only know the basic stuff about the Marketplace, coding or bugs/exploits, hence I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT BUGS, EXPLOITS, MARKETPLACE OR CODING!

I have never RPed in the game, hence I DON'T TALK ABOUT INGAME RP EXPERIENCE!



This can go on forever. Apparently, what I'm talking about is what I know about, so say what you want.



The Pope doesn't have sex, but he certainly knows a lot about it.
Wrong, see there is your problem.
 
I don't partake in live events but know enough about what's going on there so I can easily disprove some stupid nonsense you or someone else say about it.





And come on, let's define what "game content" is.

That's painfully obvious and it's been mentioned several times. But I'm glad you admit you don't really do anything when you "play."

Bottom line is, MXO has very little to do besides RP. It has no end game, the leveling process is mind-numbing, pvp pointless, pve is virtually non existant, and there are no plans to do anything major with the game ever.

SeanDavis

What?

Come on, do I have to get more bolder?



Pretty easy to see and do everything in Columbus Ohio as opposed to NYC.

What? I suppose Columbus Ohio is smaller than NYC, or what? Great point, if so. Just brilliant.





As I said, basic internet shit. Stunning features you got there, lots of content to be had.

Basic MMO shit, not internet.



No not at all. See chatroom, as I said L2RP. Also as I've said a few times, a chat room with kung fu. So yeah, you don't need this game to do any of that but it has some features which can distinguish it from a chatroom but it's pretty much lacking as a game.

This makes at least half sense.



Dungeon master, and a dice roller, all you need for roleplaying including combat. L2RP

That would still be imagination, right?



Wrong, see there is your problem.

Nah. Ok, he doesn't know a "lot". But anyway, it's a stupid comparison, so meh.

The fact is, even someone who's never subscribed and never entered the game, can look at the LE forum and disprove your "just meaningless RP chatting" claims without flinching.





That's painfully obvious and it's been mentioned several times. But I'm glad you admit you don't really do anything when you "play."

W-what? I've extra left my faction to stop being bothered by constant chatting and "wassup zero", and seeing as how I'm level 50, yea, I don't do anything when I "play".

What the hell?



It has no end game, the leveling process is mind-numbing, pvp pointless, pve is virtually non existant, and there are no plans to do anything major with the game ever.

Let's define... by RP, you mean standing with another player and chatting, right? Ok.



No end game? Ok. The levelling process is mind-numbing? Yea, if you do the standard missions. If you do more "interesting" stuff (or I find it more interesting), it's less mind-numbing and you still get to 50, or a pretty high level.

PvP pointless? Except in RP, yea.

PvE is virtually non-existent? PvE, that's simply player against NPC, it's EVERYWHERE in MxO. EVERYWHERE. If you meant something more specific than PvE, then say it. There's lots of PvE in MxO, period.

freiheit

Originally posted by SeanDavis



Come on, do I have to get more bolder?

No just stop talking out your ass.



What? I suppose Columbus Ohio is smaller than NYC, or what? Great point, if so. Just brilliant.

 Yeah, one is a huge city with lots to do, the other not so much.



Basic MMO shit, not internet.

Simple text communication. Internet shit.





This makes at least half sense.

Try it sometime.



That would still be imagination, right?

Yup just like roplepaying in mxo, same thing.





Nah. Ok, he doesn't know a "lot". But anyway, it's a stupid comparison, so meh.

The fact is, even someone who's never subscribed and never entered the game, can look at the LE forum and disprove your "just meaningless RP chatting" claims without flinching.

But you can't, it's meaningless RP, not game content.



W-what? I've extra left my faction to stop being bothered by constant chatting and "wassup zero", and seeing as how I'm level 50, yea, I don't do anything when I "play".

What the hell?

Apparently, it took you alomst two years. BTW, is zeroone your in game name?



It has no end game, the leveling process is mind-numbing, pvp pointless, pve is virtually non existant, and there are no plans to do anything major with the game ever.

Let's define... by RP, you mean standing with another player and chatting, right? Ok.



No end game? Ok. The levelling process is mind-numbing? Yea, if you do the standard missions. If you do more "interesting" stuff (or I find it more interesting), it's less mind-numbing and you still get to 50, or a pretty high level.

PvP pointless? Except in RP, yea.

So my basic points are all correct. Say it.

PvE is virtually non-existent? PvE, that's simply player against NPC, it's EVERYWHERE in MxO. EVERYWHERE. If you meant something more specific than PvE, then say it. There's lots of PvE in MxO, period.

No it's not that simple, please do a bit of research or don't play stupid.. PVE is not just killing mobs, that's something a child would think. The cloest thing MXO has to PVE is pandora and the dungeons, which are really old now and been done a million times. They also are easy to do and require ltittle effort. Not a bad thing necessaarily but it's not much in the way of PVE content.

 

SeanDavis

No just stop talking out your ass.

Gratz, you figured it out.



Simple text communication. Internet shit.

Yea, except fighting, chasing, seeking and moving in a 3d environment isn't text communication. Wait yea, you did say "3d chatroom with kung fu".

Well, every MMO has a chatting feature, so they're all "chatrooms with something". Yea, makes no sense.



Try it sometime.

I make full sense at everything each time I post something. I rule.



Yup just like roplepaying in mxo, same thing.

No one there imagines he would fight or chase someone, or any other shit you can do there, it simply happens. In a chatroom, it would be imagination.



This has nothing to do with OOC or IC, that's another type of imagination. Yea, you can be IC and imaginative in a chatroom aswell, but you can't do all the other stuff.



But you can't, it's meaningless RP, not game content.

... together with all the other action stuff. When you say there's only RP chatting (which logically means, no action that is only possible in a VIDEO GAME), you're wrong.



Apparently, it took you alomst two years. BTW, is zeroone your in game name?

It took me so long because I played less, not because while I played, I didn't really play, the statement my rebuttal was aimed at.



My main's name is the same as my DN1 name, with some numbers. I hope you don't want to write some /ccr about me, or why else do you ask for a name you already know? jk, jk.



So my basic points are all correct. Say it.

Well, in case that's what you said, yea.



No it's not that simple, please do a bit of research or don't play stupid.. PVE is not just killing mobs, that's something a child would think. The cloest thing MXO has to PVE is pandora and the dungeons, which are really old now and been done a million times. They also are easy to do and require ltittle effort. Not a bad thing necessaarily but it's not much in the way of PVE content.

Okay, granted.

freiheit

Originally posted by SeanDavis

No just stop talking out your ass.

Gratz, you figured it out.

I know, and since you like to cherry pick.

It took me so long because I played less, not because while I played, I didn't really play, the statement my rebuttal was aimed at.

So you never really played. But you'vce already admitted you don't do events, pvp or roleplay much, so wtf do you do?



My main's name is the same as my DN1 name, with some numbers. I hope you don't want to write some /ccr about me, or why else do you ask for a name you already know? jk, jk.

Never saw you, what server?



So my basic points are all correct. Say it.

Well, in case that's what you said, yea.



No it's not that simple, please do a bit of research or don't play stupid.. PVE is not just killing mobs, that's something a child would think. The cloest thing MXO has to PVE is pandora and the dungeons, which are really old now and been done a million times. They also are easy to do and require ltittle effort. Not a bad thing necessaarily but it's not much in the way of PVE content.

Okay, granted.

SeanDavis

So you never really played. But you'vce already admitted you don't do events, pvp or roleplay much, so wtf do you do?

The stuff I mentioned (missions lol), plus I some farming.



Never saw you, what server?

Vector, zeroone5069. Never saw you either. Type /ca... if you still play, that is.



And allow me a cheap shot - if you still play, why?

freiheit

I have logged in every now and then to say hi to old friends and gank zionites. Plus I gave out a lot of my stuff. I don't even think I can make a full tree.