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Rating for DR = Fake beware !

axyrnaxyrn Member Posts: 55

8.1 suddenly from 6.9 ?

If NCSoft sent its employees then this is just weak.
this game sucks, even 100 NCSoft employees cant change that.


shame on this game and on those fakers

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  • HashbrickHashbrick Member RarePosts: 1,851

    It's the community here, it happens to every game that launches, people create multiple accounts to get their favorite game above everyone elses. Give it a couple weeks to hit rock bottom again. This game isn't even worth mentioning, let along playing.

    [[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button.  Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
  • CeohaiCeohai Member Posts: 305
    I don't know what's sadder, the fact this game has an 8.1 rating, or all the people that called it a "wow-clone" in their reviews.
  • JDexterJDexter Member UncommonPosts: 130

    The rating was 7.9 not 6.9, so get your facts straight.

    If you don't like the game, then say so and leave.  What's the point of accusing anyone of manipulating the rating? 

    Does it annoy you so much that someone likes a game you don't?

    Geez, get over yourself.

    Edit:  Decided to go through the original poster's history.  What a joke.  Guy, leave the genre altogether, you hate every game.  Is this how you get your rocks off, going into every game forum and trolling?

     I'm leaving this thread, the op is a misanthrope, apparently. 

  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798
    Originally posted by axyrn


    8.1 suddenly from 6.9 ?
    If NCSoft sent its employees then this is just weak.

    this game sucks, even 100 NCSoft employees cant change that.


    shame on this game and on those fakers


    What's your definition of sudden?  It's been slowly climbing for a few days...



    1)  The fact that you don't like the game doesn't mean that the people that do like the game are faking ratings.



    2)  The ratings are based on this game's merits and/or detriments, not how the game compares to other games.



    3)  The overall rating comes from an average of several ratings categories.  As of the time I post this:



    Graphics - 8.0 - Personally, I like the graphics - they fit well with the humorous theme of the game.  Also, graphics don't have to be realistic...  Some of the high-end mobs are wicked looking...



    Fun - 8.2 - I agree.  I think the game is lots of fun!  Obviously, "fun" is in the eye of the beholder.



    Sound - 7.8 - love the npc voices, dig the dungeon-specific music and like the ambient effects



    Community - 7.9 - so far, the community is really great!  I've been playing since December and am very active in the community.



    Role-playing - 6.8 - I can see why this score is lower.  There's little-to-no roleplaying going on by players.  That being said, you can make your character into any role or class you want - it's open ended.



    Performance/Lag - 9.0  - the game works great for me, even with all the graphics turned up and at 1920X1200 resolution.   Controls are sluggish, but controls aren't "performance"



    Value - 8.8 - well, at minimum, the game is FREE.  How could it not be worth that.?  How could the value get any better?  At most, it's $5/month, which is still more entertainment value/$ than you get from a 2-hour matinee....



    Service - 8.6 - the devs actively play  and chat with the players and they incorporate suggestions from players into the game on a regular basis.  Kitsune and other official bug-whackers are constantly PM'ing players that post issues on the official boards to help them resolve their problems.  Plus, there's the official support from NCSoft...  Service is pretty good, I'd say!



    Lastly to quote you and another review:

    axyrn(posted Mon May 28 2007)
    • 1 Point for the worst Game since a long time. The Forum got invaded by NCSoft employees as it seems. The Rating is MAX 6.0. The game is broken and unfinished. Not even Beta. The payed Fanbois fake the rating in hope to get more players to pay for this junkware.
    jezvin(posted Tue May 29 2007)
    • lets beat this game back down where it belongs
    You are a hypocrite!  You insult the players that legitimately enjoy this game and you direct libelous comments towards NCSoft, but you admit faking a rating!



    ~Ripper
  • jezvinjezvin Member UncommonPosts: 804
    Originally posted by rhinok



    jezvin(posted Tue May 29 2007)

    lets beat this game back down where it belongs

    You are a hypocrite!  You insult the players that legitimately enjoy this game and you direct libelous comments towards NCSoft, but you admit faking a rating!



    ~Ripper

    Ok, I’m sorry my review, which is my opinion, dissatisfies you.



    But I think this game is crap and it should be beaten back down to where it belongs, atm it stands with games that I think far surpass it in every way.



    I know that this "You insult the players that legitimately enjoy this game and you direct libelous comments towards NCSoft" was not directed to me but you grouped me in there and then said this which I have not done any of, and about insulting players that legitimately enjoy the game, I’m a player that legitimately did not enjoy the game and I said how I feel in my review, It wasn't and insult it was an opinion and if you take offense to it, tough.

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  • JDexterJDexter Member UncommonPosts: 130

    Who are you to decide where this game belongs in the list?

    I see you are hard at work, creating accounts I assume and rating against this game for no reason other than to make your little epeen seem bigger.

    Apparently, when someone likes something you don't it's a personal insult to you.

    What a effin moron you are.

     

  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798
    In 9 hours, the score went from 8.1 with 46 votes to 6.7 with 71 votes.  THAT is a sudden shift in score.  I guess the ratings are being manipulated, but by you.(which you and others freely admit)...



    ~Ripper
  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798
    Originally posted by jezvin

    Originally posted by rhinok



    jezvin(posted Tue May 29 2007)

    lets beat this game back down where it belongs

    You are a hypocrite!  You insult the players that legitimately enjoy this game and you direct libelous comments towards NCSoft, but you admit faking a rating!



    ~Ripper

    Ok, I’m sorry my review, which is my opinion, dissatisfies you.



    But I think this game is crap and it should be beaten back down to where it belongs, atm it stands with games that I think far surpass it in every way.



    I know that this "You insult the players that legitimately enjoy this game and you direct libelous comments towards NCSoft" was not directed to me but you grouped me in there and then said this which I have not done any of, and about insulting players that legitimately enjoy the game, I’m a player that legitimately did not enjoy the game and I said how I feel in my review, It wasn't and insult it was an opinion and if you take offense to it, tough.


    It's not your place to beat the game down.  As I explained above, the ratings for this game are based on this game alone, not how it compares to others.   You don't like the game and that's fine.  You don't, however, have the right to artificially rank the game and flame the ones who do actually like it.



    ~Ripper
  • jezvinjezvin Member UncommonPosts: 804
    Originally posted by rhinok

    Originally posted by jezvin

    Originally posted by rhinok



    jezvin(posted Tue May 29 2007)

    lets beat this game back down where it belongs

    You are a hypocrite!  You insult the players that legitimately enjoy this game and you direct libelous comments towards NCSoft, but you admit faking a rating!



    ~Ripper

    Ok, I’m sorry my review, which is my opinion, dissatisfies you.



    But I think this game is crap and it should be beaten back down to where it belongs, atm it stands with games that I think far surpass it in every way.



    I know that this "You insult the players that legitimately enjoy this game and you direct libelous comments towards NCSoft" was not directed to me but you grouped me in there and then said this which I have not done any of, and about insulting players that legitimately enjoy the game, I’m a player that legitimately did not enjoy the game and I said how I feel in my review, It wasn't and insult it was an opinion and if you take offense to it, tough.


    It's not your place to beat the game down.  As I explained above, the ratings for this game are based on this game alone, not how it compares to others.   You don't like the game and that's fine.  You don't, however, have the right to artificially rank the game and flame the ones who do actually like it.



    ~Ripper 

    First of all these are reader reviews and I can review it how ever I feel like it, if I did something wrong it would be removed.



    Second, since you’re so wise why don’t you finish telling me more about what my place is?



    and last, I do not like this game, I think it was appalling that it was rated up there with other games i much preferred and thought better of so it persuaded me to give a review which I didn't do before because the game didn’t appeal enough to me to find it and rate it, until it was staring me in the face.



    Just to sum it up, I don’t like this game, my review can be whatever I want it to be, and my place is where ever I want it to be.

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  • SheepboySheepboy Member Posts: 1
    I'm pretty new to the forums, and I've not posted before, but I've been having a jolly good time with Dungeon Runners, simply because it's not meant to be a full-blown MMO! This isn't the biggest money-maker NCSoft has, and it isn't intended to be, in fact, that's why the monthly price is so low. This game is a joke: look at how they word things, how it plays and sounds, and listen to the dialogue. This game isn't some super-mmo, or anything original in terms of gameplay, it's a giant pun on all the other MMOs. I find it hilarious to hear the NPCs curse at you, or the nerdy guy in line outside town who talks about living in his mom's basement, simply because it gathers the stereotypes and fallacies of the other online games and combines them here.



    I don't know if NCSoft honestly did what is alleged here, but I can't think that they care enough about this game to do much about it. I repeat, this game is not their big moneymaker. It's a fun side project for them, not their big concentration. But really, give this game a chance, take everything in, and don't judge it because it's a point-and-click right off the bat. My baby-seal skin armor and their mockeries of MMO item suffixes (such and such item "of the wallaby", "of the platypus", "from the party", etc.) kept me chuckling long into the game. I feel like this gets the same beat-down that Guild Wars gets for being free, but give it more than 5 minutes before judging.



    No, I don't support mass voting to support a game. Heck, I don't have enough status to vote yet.
  • JDexterJDexter Member UncommonPosts: 130
    Originally posted by jezvin 

     
    First of all these are reader reviews and I can review it how ever I feel like it, if I did something wrong it would be removed.



    Second, since you’re so wise why don’t you finish telling me more about what my place is?



    and last, I do not like this game, I think it was appalling that it was rated up there with other games i much preferred and thought better of so it persuaded me to give a review which I didn't do before because the game didn’t appeal enough to me to find it and rate it, until it was staring me in the face.



    Just to sum it up, I don’t like this game, my review can be whatever I want it to be, and my place is where ever I want it to be.



    Yes, you can review it any way you like, as can we.  The difference here is, you are inciting people and asking them to 'beat it back down to where it belongs' because YOU don't think much of the game.

    I wish I could rate people like you people rate games.  You'd need (more) therapy to get over the score you'd get.

  • MoisheMoishe Member Posts: 5

    What's with all this rating manipulation?  The OP first says its been manipulated to be high, then all these people come in and purposely rate it low to soothe their egos?

    Man, you don't like the game, rate it and move on.  Is it so hard to accept that someone might actually like something you don't?

     

  • rhinokrhinok Member UncommonPosts: 1,798
    Originally posted by Moishe


    What's with all this rating manipulation?  The OP first says its been manipulated to be high, then all these people come in and purposely rate it low to soothe their egos?
    Man, you don't like the game, rate it and move on.  Is it so hard to accept that someone might actually like something you don't?
     
    The only rating manipulation that has occurred, in my opinion, is negative, malicious manipulation and  has been done by the OP and others of his ilk.  He is inciting other immature people to artificially lower the score by accusing the players that like the game and NCsoft of rating the game highly.   He and Jezvin admit in their ratings comments to manipulating the ratings.



    ~Ripper
  • jezvinjezvin Member UncommonPosts: 804
    Originally posted by rhinok

    Originally posted by Moishe


    What's with all this rating manipulation?  The OP first says its been manipulated to be high, then all these people come in and purposely rate it low to soothe their egos?
    Man, you don't like the game, rate it and move on.  Is it so hard to accept that someone might actually like something you don't?
     
    The only rating manipulation that has occurred, in my opinion, is negative, malicious manipulation and  has been done by the OP and others of his ilk.  He is inciting other immature people to artificially lower the score by accusing the players that like the game and NCsoft of rating the game highly.   He and Jezvin admit in their ratings comments to manipulating the ratings.



    ~Ripper

    My comment was suppose to incite people, because I felt the game was bad and did not deserve to be up at that high of a rating. Also I rate almost everything I play ether a 10 or a 1, sometimes a 6 or 7 if I kind of liked it.



    I have to comment on what you said about rating games compared to other games, the way it’s done at mmorpg.com puts everything in a list where the games are ranked based on their review.



    so basically If I think the top game is like a 10 but its only 8.2 then I will rate every game based on the idea that 8.2 is the 10. So the rating would be lower than an unbiased review.  When people look at the review list they want to see the games that people think are good.



    say I gave the game a 70%, like a 7, then 70% of 8.2 is about a 5.7, that I think is a fair way to review games for specific lists.

    But like I said before I usually go pass or fail, and this one failed.

     

    I don’t feel that my one negative review however inciting it may be, is rating manipulation,

     And just to say, I don’t think anyone manipulated the rating, I bet what happened was when it got on the list, which I believe wasn’t that long ago the 24th I believe, people who liked it found it and reviewed making it get a high review.

     

    also for JDexter.

     “What a effin moron you are.”

     “I wish I could rate people like you people rate games.  You'd need (more) therapy to get over the score you'd get.”

     I don’t really like commenting about other people or being blatantly insulting but this kind of stuff I find appalling. I was rating the game not insulting you.

     If this is the type of people this game caters to then I will stand by my rating even more.

     You should take a lesson from rhinokk he thinks my rating was retarded and immature, which it might just be a bit immature, but he doesn’t try to get a low blow in there anywhere.

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  • MoisheMoishe Member Posts: 5
    Originally posted by jezvin

    My comment was suppose to incite people, because I felt the game was bad and did not deserve to be up at that high of a rating. Also I rate almost everything I play ether a 10 or a 1, sometimes a 6 or 7 if I kind of liked it.






    That's my point, you are inciting people to rate it badly because you don't like it.  You are free to rate it and post a review, but you are telling people what they should be voting and how they should view the game.



    If you don't get that, then I don't know what to say otherwise.



    Rate the game, post your opinion (without forcing your views on others) and move on.



    Otherwise you are just trolling.
  • AshGUTZAshGUTZ Member Posts: 339

    I don't think this game was meant to be a competetor with things like WoW, CoH, etc. I think some people just wanted a casual, small game for people to play and be able to put down immediatly when necessary. Not a game that you slave hours over [well, some might..], maybe a game parents could even play with their kids. I know it appeals to my little cousin, I actually rated it decently because I find it great that he can play something fun that has a small and stable enviroment. I also enjoy the fact that I don't have to worry about him running into the same situation as I did, getting addicted and not wanting to let games go. Getting too serious about MMORPG's can be a problem, and although I love my life style of just playing and testing games all day, writing up guides, helping others with games, I don't think I would want that for a younger child.

    I think it's a great game, not for me, but definatly for my little cousin. :]

    Ps. Sorry, that rant went on way more than I expected it too.

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  • MoisheMoishe Member Posts: 5
    Originally posted by AshGUTZ


    I don't think this game was meant to be a competetor with things like WoW, CoH, etc. I think some people just wanted a casual, small game for people to play and be able to put down immediatly when necessary. Not a game that you slave hours over [well, some might..], maybe a game parents could even play with their kids. I know it appeals to my little cousin, I actually rated it decently because I find it great that he can play something fun that has a small and stable enviroment. I also enjoy the fact that I don't have to worry about him running into the same situation as I did, getting addicted and not wanting to let games go. Getting too serious about MMORPG's can be a problem, and although I love my life style of just playing and testing games all day, writing up guides, helping others with games, I don't think I would want that for a younger child.
    I think it's a great game, not for me, but definatly for my little cousin. :]
    Ps. Sorry, that rant went on way more than I expected it too.
    Hehe, I'm missing the rant part.  That was a pretty positive post.


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