Well he is 16, has a retarded signature and he comes from Pahrump. What do you expect?
PS: Are you really from Pahrump? Or did you do like me and watched the 2 Studio 60 episodes?
Nice little town Pahrump. I had family there for a while. Great mountains.
Some notes on Israel.
It's not just Iran that wants to wipe them off the map. All their neighbouring countries do. It might sound evil to you, but to the people who have to live near them it all seems extremely reasonable. They all have big and troublesome refugee populations evicted by Israel and they would like them to go home. They have all fought wars with Israel and been bombed by Israel.
While Israels neighbours and enemies aren't exactly loveable, neither are Israeli's.
Israel may have had the airpower to destroy one reactor in Iraq 20 years ago, but they don't have the military power to destroy all the nuclear facilities in Iran. Not only this, but unlike Iraq at the time, Israel is in missile range of Iran. They wouldn't just lose their airforce, they would lose a lot of their civilian population.
Some notes on Iran.
They are an extremely educated and cultured people. In the region they are just about the most free, liberated and democratic nation. An advanced society.
Iran isn't evil and America good.
Iran doesn't seek nuclear weapons because it is desperate to vapourise Israel. "Wipe of the map" means wipoing the state off the map. Rather like we just wiped Saddams regime off the map. Iran seeks to return Israel to the arabs. The previous owners. An end to Israel, as a state. The return of Palestine.
Iran does need nuclear weapons to defend itself. Israel has them, America and Britain have them and all three of those nations persistently threaten Iran with military intervention.Israel and America have both threatened nuclear strikes. America specifically has repeatedly attacked them over the last 30 years and has an active infiltration program with the specific aim of encouraging terrorism and revolution within their country. Before this, America was actively involved in militarily supporting a brutal and oppressive regime that the people overthrew. They don't call America "The Great Satan" without good cause.
Is it in our intrests for Iran to gain nuclear weapons?
Absolutely not. It is critical to our economic and military stability to dominate the Middle-east, specifically the gulf. We haven't fought war after war there for the last hundred years in the intrests of comedy.
We invaded Iran and Iraq in both World War 1 and World War 2, the region was critical to our efforts. In order to maintain the global stability we won in those extremely costly wars our influence there must be maintained.
An Iran that is free to invade or intervene in the affairs of it's neighbours, an Iran that has the ability to close the straights of Hormuz to shipping, an Iran that achieves it's ambition of replacing western regional influence with it's own, must be stopped by the west. This is not a luxury for the rich. This is a strategic and economic necessity. When our economies do badly, it won't be the rich that suffers. When we get embroiled in any world-order defining wars it won't just be the rich who's homes get bombed who's children get drafted.
This is about oil. This isn't just about rich people getting richer on the deaths of the innocent.
That's not to say that Iran has any desire to conquer it's neighbours, or close down the regions oil traffic, just that the only nations that can be allowed to do this are our own.
It's a no brainer decision. Build up an air armada and send it in. Destroy all nuclear facilities and make sure they know if they rebuild them, we will be straight back to do it again.
It's a question of domination. Morality, right and wrong, Democracy and Theocracy, good and evil. All luxuries that we cannot afford. They that rile and speak against this are simply weak people. Those that cannot face up to the human cost of their own lives.
I mean, they are led by a fruit cake with a insanley long name, who has said Isreal should be wiped off the map, and reccently said "the world will witness the destruction of Isreal in the near future" I mean they are asking for a war. They know if they attack Isreal the USA and Britan will come and help. Iran has no chance, I think before they can attack Isreal, we should launch a premptive strike. Taking out nucluear facilities, and hopefully killing their leader..... It seems as the middle east will never have peace. Its like the west and Isreal vs the middle east.... Its weird. But the USA could already declare war, for lets see supplying terroists and weapons which have killed 170+ US troops. They are holding american citizens hostages under bogus charges, and want nucluear capability. We have stated we wont let them and they say they will. So there is a near future war, which is inevitable. /rantoff /discuss
Hey genius, ever ask yourself why they [Iran] keep goading the US and Israel toward war? It's because Iran wants to go to war with the US!
Iran does not fear the US in the slightest...'cause they have Russia and China (and two dozen other countries) secretly backing them up!
The good news is that you will be drafted pretty soon EricJLeach...put all that tough guy talk into practice!
Fugnudz here is a perfect proof on that mankind evolved from monkeys. And socialism is bad? Yeah, right. In Europe and Canada you aren't left to die if you get hospitalized and are poor unlike in the United States of America.
You let Iran have nukes and in a hundred years it will be like The Planet of the Apes.
And yes, socialism is a failed policy. Even Chirac, when he was over France, was making moves to bring his country to a more capitalistic model.
In America, if you are sick and have no insurance, you go to a county hospital and get treatment. Not as nice as a private hospital, but you get treatment nonetheless.
In Europe and Canada, every hospital is like a county hospital. Wait in line for four hours in the corridor sitting next to some homeless guy who is coughing his TB germs in your face.
I replied yes because its going to happen eventually anyways. Iran and other terrorist countries are sort of like blackmailers. You give them what they want, then they want a lil more and so on and so forth. I dont think we should attack them like we did Iraq, but use small special forces teams to take out key figures and targets.
P.S. I know not all muslim countries or people want to strap bombs to themselves. I go to school with many muslim people and most opf them are friendly and positive people. But you are really ignorant if you think Israel would survive 1 more year by itself if it didnt have the US and the Brits guarding there backs. Hezbollah from the north would come down and Fatah from the south would go north right into Israel. And that would only be the first few months. Have no doubt that sure Iran might not send troops directly there, but they would finance the hell out of those 2 terrorist groups.
In Europe and Canada you aren't left to die if you get hospitalized and are poor unlike in the United States of America.
This is a ridiculous statement, you are not left to die in the US if you dont have insurance. You get treatment at a normal hospital, you just have to pay the whole bill instead of the insurance covering most of the cost. You might want to educate yourself before throwing out comments like this.
When Iran has nukes, Al Qaeda could then have nukes, since Iran arms and supports terrorists. When New York (or some other large city) gets nuked by terrorists supplied with Iranian-built nukes, then everyone will be ready to confront Iran.
Oh yeah, because stable governments have this uncontrolable desire to give nukes to trustworthy suicidal terrorists.
And nuclear armed states have such a long history of attacking each other.
O no, I forgot, Iranians are all subhuman's, they don't love their children. They don't believe in world peace. They all embrace nuclear holocaust and certain total destruction.
When Iran has nukes, Al Qaeda could then have nukes, since Iran arms and supports terrorists. When New York (or some other large city) gets nuked by terrorists supplied with Iranian-built nukes, then everyone will be ready to confront Iran.
Oh yeah, because stable governments have this uncontrolable desire to give nukes to trustworthy suicidal terrorists.
And nuclear armed states have such a long history of attacking each other.
O no, I forgot, Iranians are all subhuman's, they don't love their children. They don't believe in world peace. They all embrace nuclear holocaust and certain total destruction.
What makes you think Admanijad (or however you spell his name) is stable? They guy rambles about wiping out Israel every week. The guy funds terrorists who kill our soldiers. The guy is crazy.
And that's stable to you? You're okay with him having a nuke.
What makes you think Admanijad (or however you spell his name) is stable? They guy rambles about wiping out Israel every week. The guy funds terrorists who kill our soldiers. The guy is crazy. And that's stable to you? You're okay with him having a nuke.
I'm O.K. with Bush having a Nuke, and he isn't stable. He's declared two wars already.
You fund terrorists who kill his soldiers too, it's sane when you do it, but insane when someone else does, is that it?
And all the national leaders in the area ramble on about wiping out Israel. He's not mad in that respect, he's totally in tune with the consencus of opinion.
I'm not O.K. with him having a nuke, not because I think he is a bampot but becuase I like to be in charge. If he has a nuke, I can't threaten him, or attack his country everytime it's intrests conflict with mine.
Originally posted by Sapperbomb Originally posted by Amalaric In Europe and Canada you aren't left to die if you get hospitalized and are poor unlike in the United States of America.
This is a ridiculous statement, you are not left to die in the US if you dont have insurance. You get treatment at a normal hospital, you just have to pay the whole bill instead of the insurance covering most of the cost. You might want to educate yourself before throwing out comments like this.
and if you under a certain economic level you can fill out some Aid forms and get treated free.
My brother who is a waste of space has done it a few times.
Originally posted by Amalaric In Europe and Canada you aren't left to die if you get hospitalized and are poor unlike in the United States of America.
This is a ridiculous statement, you are not left to die in the US if you dont have insurance. You get treatment at a normal hospital, you just have to pay the whole bill instead of the insurance covering most of the cost. You might want to educate yourself before throwing out comments like this.
and if you under a certain economic level you can fill out some Aid forms and get treated free.
My brother who is a waste of space has done it a few times.
Yeah, yay for paying taxes so that people dont need to take responsibility for themselves!
Originally posted by Sapperbomb Originally posted by hazmats
Originally posted by Sapperbomb
Originally posted by Amalaric In Europe and Canada you aren't left to die if you get hospitalized and are poor unlike in the United States of America.
This is a ridiculous statement, you are not left to die in the US if you dont have insurance. You get treatment at a normal hospital, you just have to pay the whole bill instead of the insurance covering most of the cost. You might want to educate yourself before throwing out comments like this. and if you under a certain economic level you can fill out some Aid forms and get treated free. My brother who is a waste of space has done it a few times. Yeah, yay for paying taxes so that people dont need to take responsibility for themselves!
yea i'm just posting it for the guy that says poor people don't get treatment.
Originally posted by Amalaric In Europe and Canada you aren't left to die if you get hospitalized and are poor unlike in the United States of America.
This is a ridiculous statement, you are not left to die in the US if you dont have insurance. You get treatment at a normal hospital, you just have to pay the whole bill instead of the insurance covering most of the cost. You might want to educate yourself before throwing out comments like this.
and if you under a certain economic level you can fill out some Aid forms and get treated free.
My brother who is a waste of space has done it a few times.
Yeah, yay for paying taxes so that people dont need to take responsibility for themselves!
Yeah, and what happens after you get the bill? They recently changed bankruptcy laws so that you really can't go bankrupt anymore. If you file for bankruptcy now, they take everything you have and everything you make until you pay off the debt anyway. So the choice is either go without treatment or go without food and shelter.
Oh, and way to call your own brother a waste of space. You know you could start acting like an actual brother yourself and help him get back on his feet.
And being poor by no means means that you do not take responsibility for yourself. That was an extremely ignorant statement. Most Americans are only a paycheck or two away from the streets as it is.
As for Iran, baff was about spot on with my stance on the issue.
Originally posted by Amalaric In Europe and Canada you aren't left to die if you get hospitalized and are poor unlike in the United States of America.
This is a ridiculous statement, you are not left to die in the US if you dont have insurance. You get treatment at a normal hospital, you just have to pay the whole bill instead of the insurance covering most of the cost. You might want to educate yourself before throwing out comments like this.
and if you under a certain economic level you can fill out some Aid forms and get treated free.
My brother who is a waste of space has done it a few times.
Yeah, yay for paying taxes so that people dont need to take responsibility for themselves!
Yeah, and what happens after you get the bill? They recently changed bankruptcy laws so that you really can't go bankrupt anymore. If you file for bankruptcy now, they take everything you have and everything you make until you pay off the debt anyway. So the choice is either go without treatment or go without food and shelter.
Oh, and way to call your own brother a waste of space. You know you could start acting like an actual brother yourself and help him get back on his feet.
And being poor by no means means that you do not take responsibility for yourself. That was an extremely ignorant statement. Most Americans are only a paycheck or two away from the streets as it is.
As for Iran, baff was about spot on with my stance on the issue. Most hospitals work with you so that you can make payments without breaking the bank. Their not some sort of mafia where if you dont give them all of your money they break your knee caps.
And being poor is no excuse for having everyone else in the country paying for your treatments. By this I mean that anyone has the opportunity to advance their lot in life. You just have to be able to sacrifice alot of your free time to better advance yourself. Look at the movie The Pursuit of Happyness, thats based off of a true story. Sure not everyone will be able to do that and become as huge of a success as he was but ANYONE can get student loans and go to college a couple nights a week. So when I say that people dont responsibility for themselves I guess Im really saying that there not trying to advance their lot in life.
Oh, and way to call your own brother a waste of space. You know you could start acting like an actual brother yourself and help him get back on his feet.
He wastes his money on drugs. Sorry, but I'm not going to help him.
After 2 wars in Iraq, a proxy war in Afghanistan, and a "conflict" in the Balkans, it seems the American people have become gluttoned and used to McWars
You think losing 3,000 soldiers over 4 years is bad? What happens when we start a war with Iran and lose 3,000 soldiers within a matter of hours?
Please, OP and all those who think like him...do yourself a favor: think of the consequences of the actions you propose. After you do that, start thinking of rational un-insane alternatives.
After 2 wars in Iraq, a proxy war in Afghanistan, and a "conflict" in the Balkans, it seems the American people have become gluttoned and used to McWars
You think losing 3,000 soldiers over 4 years is bad? What happens when we start a war with Iran and lose 3,000 soldiers within a matter of hours?
Please, OP and all those who think like him...do yourself a favor: think of the consequences of the actions you propose. After you do that, start thinking of rational un-insane alternatives.
Thats why I brought up that if we ever do go to war with Iran it shouldnt be like the Iraq war. They should send in small special ops units that would just take out key targets and political figures.
What makes you think Admanijad (or however you spell his name) is stable? They guy rambles about wiping out Israel every week. The guy funds terrorists who kill our soldiers. The guy is crazy. And that's stable to you? You're okay with him having a nuke.
I'm O.K. with Bush having a Nuke, and he isn't stable. He's declared two wars already.
You fund terrorists who kill his soldiers too, it's sane when you do it, but insane when someone else does, is that it?
And all the national leaders in the area ramble on about wiping out Israel. He's not mad in that respect, he's totally in tune with the consencus of opinion.
I'm not O.K. with him having a nuke, not because I think he is a bampot but becuase I like to be in charge. If he has a nuke, I can't threaten him, or attack his country everytime it's intrests conflict with mine.
First off, I don't buy the moral equivalency arguments you make any more that I'd agree with someone trying to equate Churchill with Hitler or a cop with a robber. This "both sides kill" or "both sides have guns/nukes" argument just doesn't wash.
The U.S. is doing its best to create an environment (i.e., democracies abroad) so that 1) when these nations do develop nukes, it'll be safe, and 2) democratic nations will not fund terrorism, therefore terrorists will have their funding cutoff.
You need to stop bashing Bush, who I truly believe is the Churchill of our times (just we have no "Greatest generation" at the moment to recognize that) and to realize that the Iranian dictators is as reliable and stable as Al Capone.
You also should realize that we haven't been attacked "over here", maybe because our troops are fighting terrorists "over there."
Everytime I listen to someone like you, I want to end this War and Terror and pull our troops home, not because I do not believe in their fight and their cause, but because I cannot see soliders sacrificing themselves for your freedom and security as being a worthwhile exchange. If all these guys are doing is defending YOU, then this truly is a grand charade.
Some people seem to think any conflict in the middle east has ever been about religion. If the largest oil reserves in the world had been in Tibet then budhism would've been perceived as the most violent religion.
In fact, there's not a single conflict of noteworthy scale that has ever emerged because of religion. Religion is simply a symptom of culture. Hence why it evolves as it spreads trough other cultures/countries. Religion isn't a factor in the plans of any leader, except as a means of mass-manipulation to control the less educated masses.
So religion in Iran is just a means for the regime to stay in power. The US is immensely valuable in that plan as a simple scapegoat. While Iran is the same for the US.
Iran wants nukes, and even more, it wants to be attacked in as many ways as possible by the US. This justifies the regimes' existence. Just like "the war on terror" (which is as absurd as "the war on automatic rifles") is an excuse for the neo-cons to do what they do.
BTW, on the "socialism versus everything else" debate... Why not just check the statistics on living standards, education rankings, UN development index, ... Should be easy to find.
Some people seem to think any conflict in the middle east has ever been about religion. If the largest oil reserves in the world had been in Tibet then budhism would've been perceived as the most violent religion.
Sorry, I generally think you have intelligent arguements when you post but this comment makes you look insane.
The war in the middle east is a religious civil war...
We leave... it's that simple. Yeah, it's jacked up... I know.
Genocide is going on throughout Africa, in select areas of South America and Asia... and the US is in no rush to save those people or anyone else... Morals? Yah... Riiight.
#*$& Iraq/Iran. If they want to shoot at each other and raise hell in the name of "God" in their own country then let the bastards kill each other.
The US need to stop trying to police the world and pay attention to their own country, which has developed it's own problems... like the need for a free healthcare and higher education system that has been adopted in many places in Europe including France and Scandinavia just to name a few.
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Fugnudz here is a perfect proof on that mankind evolved from monkeys.
And socialism is bad?
Yeah, right.
In Europe and Canada you aren't left to die if you get hospitalized and are poor unlike in the United States of America.
Nice little town Pahrump. I had family there for a while. Great mountains.
Some notes on Israel.
It's not just Iran that wants to wipe them off the map. All their neighbouring countries do. It might sound evil to you, but to the people who have to live near them it all seems extremely reasonable. They all have big and troublesome refugee populations evicted by Israel and they would like them to go home. They have all fought wars with Israel and been bombed by Israel.
While Israels neighbours and enemies aren't exactly loveable, neither are Israeli's.
Israel may have had the airpower to destroy one reactor in Iraq 20 years ago, but they don't have the military power to destroy all the nuclear facilities in Iran. Not only this, but unlike Iraq at the time, Israel is in missile range of Iran. They wouldn't just lose their airforce, they would lose a lot of their civilian population.
Some notes on Iran.
They are an extremely educated and cultured people. In the region they are just about the most free, liberated and democratic nation. An advanced society.
Iran isn't evil and America good.
Iran doesn't seek nuclear weapons because it is desperate to vapourise Israel. "Wipe of the map" means wipoing the state off the map. Rather like we just wiped Saddams regime off the map. Iran seeks to return Israel to the arabs. The previous owners. An end to Israel, as a state. The return of Palestine.
Iran does need nuclear weapons to defend itself. Israel has them, America and Britain have them and all three of those nations persistently threaten Iran with military intervention.Israel and America have both threatened nuclear strikes. America specifically has repeatedly attacked them over the last 30 years and has an active infiltration program with the specific aim of encouraging terrorism and revolution within their country. Before this, America was actively involved in militarily supporting a brutal and oppressive regime that the people overthrew. They don't call America "The Great Satan" without good cause.
Is it in our intrests for Iran to gain nuclear weapons?
Absolutely not. It is critical to our economic and military stability to dominate the Middle-east, specifically the gulf. We haven't fought war after war there for the last hundred years in the intrests of comedy.
We invaded Iran and Iraq in both World War 1 and World War 2, the region was critical to our efforts. In order to maintain the global stability we won in those extremely costly wars our influence there must be maintained.
An Iran that is free to invade or intervene in the affairs of it's neighbours, an Iran that has the ability to close the straights of Hormuz to shipping, an Iran that achieves it's ambition of replacing western regional influence with it's own, must be stopped by the west. This is not a luxury for the rich. This is a strategic and economic necessity. When our economies do badly, it won't be the rich that suffers. When we get embroiled in any world-order defining wars it won't just be the rich who's homes get bombed who's children get drafted.
This is about oil. This isn't just about rich people getting richer on the deaths of the innocent.
That's not to say that Iran has any desire to conquer it's neighbours, or close down the regions oil traffic, just that the only nations that can be allowed to do this are our own.
It's a no brainer decision. Build up an air armada and send it in. Destroy all nuclear facilities and make sure they know if they rebuild them, we will be straight back to do it again.
It's a question of domination. Morality, right and wrong, Democracy and Theocracy, good and evil. All luxuries that we cannot afford. They that rile and speak against this are simply weak people. Those that cannot face up to the human cost of their own lives.
Iran does not fear the US in the slightest...'cause they have Russia and China (and two dozen other countries) secretly backing them up!
The good news is that you will be drafted pretty soon EricJLeach...put all that tough guy talk into practice!
You let Iran have nukes and in a hundred years it will be like The Planet of the Apes.
And yes, socialism is a failed policy. Even Chirac, when he was over France, was making moves to bring his country to a more capitalistic model.
In America, if you are sick and have no insurance, you go to a county hospital and get treatment. Not as nice as a private hospital, but you get treatment nonetheless.
In Europe and Canada, every hospital is like a county hospital. Wait in line for four hours in the corridor sitting next to some homeless guy who is coughing his TB germs in your face.
You can keep your socialism.
P.S. I know not all muslim countries or people want to strap bombs to themselves. I go to school with many muslim people and most opf them are friendly and positive people. But you are really ignorant if you think Israel would survive 1 more year by itself if it didnt have the US and the Brits guarding there backs. Hezbollah from the north would come down and Fatah from the south would go north right into Israel. And that would only be the first few months. Have no doubt that sure Iran might not send troops directly there, but they would finance the hell out of those 2 terrorist groups.
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Oh yeah, because stable governments have this uncontrolable desire to give nukes to trustworthy suicidal terrorists.
And nuclear armed states have such a long history of attacking each other.
O no, I forgot, Iranians are all subhuman's, they don't love their children. They don't believe in world peace. They all embrace nuclear holocaust and certain total destruction.
It already is like Planet of the Apes where you live.
I got drunk in that cowboy bar half way between Pahrump and Vegas. My god. The Gorillas were loose in that place.
Oh yeah, because stable governments have this uncontrolable desire to give nukes to trustworthy suicidal terrorists.
And nuclear armed states have such a long history of attacking each other.
O no, I forgot, Iranians are all subhuman's, they don't love their children. They don't believe in world peace. They all embrace nuclear holocaust and certain total destruction.
What makes you think Admanijad (or however you spell his name) is stable? They guy rambles about wiping out Israel every week. The guy funds terrorists who kill our soldiers. The guy is crazy.
And that's stable to you? You're okay with him having a nuke.
It already is like Planet of the Apes where you live.
I got drunk in that cowboy bar half way between Pahrump and Vegas. My god. The Gorillas were loose in that place.
You toss out insults because you probably have run out of arguments.
I'm O.K. with Bush having a Nuke, and he isn't stable. He's declared two wars already.
You fund terrorists who kill his soldiers too, it's sane when you do it, but insane when someone else does, is that it?
And all the national leaders in the area ramble on about wiping out Israel. He's not mad in that respect, he's totally in tune with the consencus of opinion.
I'm not O.K. with him having a nuke, not because I think he is a bampot but becuase I like to be in charge. If he has a nuke, I can't threaten him, or attack his country everytime it's intrests conflict with mine.
and if you under a certain economic level you can fill out some Aid forms and get treated free.
My brother who is a waste of space has done it a few times.
and if you under a certain economic level you can fill out some Aid forms and get treated free.
My brother who is a waste of space has done it a few times.
and if you under a certain economic level you can fill out some Aid forms and get treated free.
My brother who is a waste of space has done it a few times.
yea i'm just posting it for the guy that says poor people don't get treatment.
and if you under a certain economic level you can fill out some Aid forms and get treated free.
My brother who is a waste of space has done it a few times.
Yeah, and what happens after you get the bill? They recently changed bankruptcy laws so that you really can't go bankrupt anymore. If you file for bankruptcy now, they take everything you have and everything you make until you pay off the debt anyway. So the choice is either go without treatment or go without food and shelter.
Oh, and way to call your own brother a waste of space. You know you could start acting like an actual brother yourself and help him get back on his feet.
And being poor by no means means that you do not take responsibility for yourself. That was an extremely ignorant statement. Most Americans are only a paycheck or two away from the streets as it is.
As for Iran, baff was about spot on with my stance on the issue.
"Kaneda! What...do you see?"
and if you under a certain economic level you can fill out some Aid forms and get treated free.
My brother who is a waste of space has done it a few times.
Yeah, and what happens after you get the bill? They recently changed bankruptcy laws so that you really can't go bankrupt anymore. If you file for bankruptcy now, they take everything you have and everything you make until you pay off the debt anyway. So the choice is either go without treatment or go without food and shelter.
Oh, and way to call your own brother a waste of space. You know you could start acting like an actual brother yourself and help him get back on his feet.
And being poor by no means means that you do not take responsibility for yourself. That was an extremely ignorant statement. Most Americans are only a paycheck or two away from the streets as it is.
As for Iran, baff was about spot on with my stance on the issue. Most hospitals work with you so that you can make payments without breaking the bank. Their not some sort of mafia where if you dont give them all of your money they break your knee caps.
And being poor is no excuse for having everyone else in the country paying for your treatments. By this I mean that anyone has the opportunity to advance their lot in life. You just have to be able to sacrifice alot of your free time to better advance yourself. Look at the movie The Pursuit of Happyness, thats based off of a true story. Sure not everyone will be able to do that and become as huge of a success as he was but ANYONE can get student loans and go to college a couple nights a week. So when I say that people dont responsibility for themselves I guess Im really saying that there not trying to advance their lot in life.
He wastes his money on drugs. Sorry, but I'm not going to help him.
You think losing 3,000 soldiers over 4 years is bad? What happens when we start a war with Iran and lose 3,000 soldiers within a matter of hours?
Please, OP and all those who think like him...do yourself a favor: think of the consequences of the actions you propose. After you do that, start thinking of rational un-insane alternatives.
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Life sucks, buy a helmet.
Last time they tried that it all went tit's up.
American Special Forces don't have a track record of success in Iran.
Stick to what you do best. Bombing people.
I'm O.K. with Bush having a Nuke, and he isn't stable. He's declared two wars already.
You fund terrorists who kill his soldiers too, it's sane when you do it, but insane when someone else does, is that it?
And all the national leaders in the area ramble on about wiping out Israel. He's not mad in that respect, he's totally in tune with the consencus of opinion.
I'm not O.K. with him having a nuke, not because I think he is a bampot but becuase I like to be in charge. If he has a nuke, I can't threaten him, or attack his country everytime it's intrests conflict with mine.
First off, I don't buy the moral equivalency arguments you make any more that I'd agree with someone trying to equate Churchill with Hitler or a cop with a robber. This "both sides kill" or "both sides have guns/nukes" argument just doesn't wash.
The U.S. is doing its best to create an environment (i.e., democracies abroad) so that 1) when these nations do develop nukes, it'll be safe, and 2) democratic nations will not fund terrorism, therefore terrorists will have their funding cutoff.
You need to stop bashing Bush, who I truly believe is the Churchill of our times (just we have no "Greatest generation" at the moment to recognize that) and to realize that the Iranian dictators is as reliable and stable as Al Capone.
You also should realize that we haven't been attacked "over here", maybe because our troops are fighting terrorists "over there."
Everytime I listen to someone like you, I want to end this War and Terror and pull our troops home, not because I do not believe in their fight and their cause, but because I cannot see soliders sacrificing themselves for your freedom and security as being a worthwhile exchange. If all these guys are doing is defending YOU, then this truly is a grand charade.
In fact, there's not a single conflict of noteworthy scale that has ever emerged because of religion. Religion is simply a symptom of culture. Hence why it evolves as it spreads trough other cultures/countries. Religion isn't a factor in the plans of any leader, except as a means of mass-manipulation to control the less educated masses.
So religion in Iran is just a means for the regime to stay in power. The US is immensely valuable in that plan as a simple scapegoat. While Iran is the same for the US.
Iran wants nukes, and even more, it wants to be attacked in as many ways as possible by the US. This justifies the regimes' existence. Just like "the war on terror" (which is as absurd as "the war on automatic rifles") is an excuse for the neo-cons to do what they do.
BTW, on the "socialism versus everything else" debate... Why not just check the statistics on living standards, education rankings, UN development index, ... Should be easy to find.
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We leave... it's that simple. Yeah, it's jacked up... I know.
Genocide is going on throughout Africa, in select areas of South America and Asia... and the US is in no rush to save those people or anyone else... Morals? Yah... Riiight.
#*$& Iraq/Iran. If they want to shoot at each other and raise hell in the name of "God" in their own country then let the bastards kill each other.
The US need to stop trying to police the world and pay attention to their own country, which has developed it's own problems... like the need for a free healthcare and higher education system that has been adopted in many places in Europe including France and Scandinavia just to name a few.