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The Downfall Of WoW
DruNk_DwArF2
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I am referring too World Of Warcraft should have come to no surprise..As many of you know it broke all MMO records in number of subscribers and much more..But as the gaming industry moves on and new games release will World Of Warcraft stand the test of the ages? Many people i speak to in-game and my entire guild of 200 players are going to one or the other being Age Of Conan,Or Warhammer Online..You may jump on me saying (But that is only 200 players there are 8million) But as i said,Many people i speak too,being it in Real Life,Or just people who play the game in general or any forum i go too..But the big question is..Can these 2 games tackle the big boy,And in my opinion if World of Warcraft doesn't pull a snake out of their hat,they are going to see a huge hit in subscription numbers..No i'm not talking about a few hundred thousand.I'm talking in the millions...Many players in World Of Warcraft are tired of end-game raiding to only means to be good,,PvP system is lacking depth and the developers are lazy showing lack of talent and interest
As you all know the last expansion The Burning Crusade allowed millions of players to reach level 70,And as you all know the lazy developers instead of balancing out and possibly bringing new classes to the lineup they give both Horde and Alliance Shaman,Paladin...Now if that isn't being lazy i don't know what it is...They could easily come up with new classes as i've never seen the Opposing force of good have a class that represents everything that is good/holy i.e the Paladin...They could have EASILY gave horde Shadow Knight (Avernus),And alliance something similar..I am no Warcraft expert but i'm sure there is something similar they could have gave to Alliance.That being said i think many players are losing interest..Is it possible Blizzard is aware that they are coming under attack? Well i don't know from what i hear they are too confident in their product to really care..After all if you owned something that had 8million some odd players logging in every week you'd think the same..But boy are they in for a surprise.
Is Blizzard planning a counter-attack? Somebody with more info than me might know,but i sure do not.I hear of an expansion but who knows if this is true i think it will be some what hard..And what are they doing with this expansion and will it release in time to stop the inevitable wave of MMO's that will potentially put the nail in the coffin.Although the nail will NEVER go completely into the coffin because of the World-Wide player base Asia etc. that doesn't care about WAR or AOC. well post you're opinions and vote in the poll
As you all know the last expansion The Burning Crusade allowed millions of players to reach level 70,And as you all know the lazy developers instead of balancing out and possibly bringing new classes to the lineup they give both Horde and Alliance Shaman,Paladin...Now if that isn't being lazy i don't know what it is...They could easily come up with new classes as i've never seen the Opposing force of good have a class that represents everything that is good/holy i.e the Paladin...They could have EASILY gave horde Shadow Knight (Avernus),And alliance something similar..I am no Warcraft expert but i'm sure there is something similar they could have gave to Alliance.That being said i think many players are losing interest..Is it possible Blizzard is aware that they are coming under attack? Well i don't know from what i hear they are too confident in their product to really care..After all if you owned something that had 8million some odd players logging in every week you'd think the same..But boy are they in for a surprise.
Is Blizzard planning a counter-attack? Somebody with more info than me might know,but i sure do not.I hear of an expansion but who knows if this is true i think it will be some what hard..And what are they doing with this expansion and will it release in time to stop the inevitable wave of MMO's that will potentially put the nail in the coffin.Although the nail will NEVER go completely into the coffin because of the World-Wide player base Asia etc. that doesn't care about WAR or AOC. well post you're opinions and vote in the poll
MMORPG's Under my belt:UO,EQ1,EQ2,SWG,L2,COH,COV,WoW,AC2,Shadowbane,DAOC,FFXI,GW,D&D,V:SOH,LOTR:O
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I think its very likely Blizzard will come up with a competitive expansion, and it will come out stategically meaning it will bear Age of Conan and Warhammer in mind. They maybe little game in comparison but only a foolish company would pay no attention to their competition.
But even if it does ... I don't really care, because I won't be there anymore
When server merges do eventually come around, people will claim that WoW is dying, but they will be very wrong. I look forward to Tabula Rasa and AoC, as well as other non-MMOs, but nothing is ever going to "harm" Blizzard with regards to stealing WoW's subscriber numbers.
WoW will be long remembered as a classic among PC games such as Civilization, Doom, Monkey Island etc.. sure. These games werent' the first of their genre, but they were considered the best by the majority of people. MMORPG.com caters toward the anti-WoW crowd, so most people here won't agree, but history will.
There will be no downfall.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
Say what you will, but WoW was a good thing for our MMORPG world. It is causing other companies to outdo Bilzzard, and (hopefully) Blizzard to out-do themselves to hold on to players.
"...and with that cryptic comment, I'm off to bed!"
QFT! Very true.
All canceled. Waiting on Warhammer Online : Age of Reckoning.
Say what you will, but WoW was a good thing for our MMORPG world. It is causing other companies to outdo Bilzzard, and (hopefully) Blizzard to out-do themselves to hold on to players.
This is true but is it to late for Blizzard, are players wanting something new and fresh. Thats what they have to look out for, if I was with the company I would be conducting some kind of survey to find out what the public wants.
If only i would get one penny for every time someone claimed WoW was going to die, i would have been multimillionaire already.
At the time the OP is writing this post, according to NDP The Burning Crusade is the number 1 selling game in the U.S. with the original a close second. In my home country in the netherlands, its the same story, TBC being number one, WoW being number 2.
Needless to say, i could still become millionare if everyone making the claim that WoW will go down gives me a penny.
World of Starcraft could break 10million subscribers, as long as Starcraft 2 lives up to the hype.
Still waiting for your Holy Grail MMORPG? Interesting...
Eq and UO had faaaar less subs but they are still getting a profit
peas.
MMORPG's Under my belt:UO,EQ1,EQ2,SWG,L2,COH,COV,WoW,AC2,Shadowbane,DAOC,FFXI,GW,D&D,V:SOH,LOTR:O
BC didn't bring anything new, and it ,in effect, removed content from the game (old raid instances). While I just love how Blizzard handles production, their IP maintenance is, at least, lacking.
What WoW really needs is a new war. Horde-Alliance conflict is way to shallow. If they introduce new factions, things could stir up.
And role-playing is in constant decline. Blizzard's treatment of RP community is total ignorance.
As for shinnies,... Blizzard knows their shinnies.
Unless they put some serious thought for the next expansion, i predict WoW will become heaven for raiders and gold farmers.
I love WoW, played for almost two years, I still love it, but I have changed and WoW hasn't. And what doesn't change, dies.
I think that if WOW does not change some things up in there game then they will loose sub. I am not saying they will crash and burn but you will see a drop in there player base. I know people that like the game don't what to hear that, and people that don't like the game what to hear that it going to fail. If I had to realistically predict what will happen to WOW in the future I would have to say that. They will come out with another expansion, trying to compete with other titles that are new to the MMO world.
That kind of leads into another question what will WOW's next expansion be? They will have to give the game a graphics overhaul! Is it too late for blizzard to change there way of thinking on how the never ending end game raids work? Hell who knows?
I could really care less if WOW fails or breaks 16 mill. Sub. WOW did a great job and I knew from the beginning that Blizzard would make a great game, because they always do. But just like any other game people grow tired of them and will, what something new and fresh, Hopefully AOC or WAR can bring that but if they cant then I will wait for the next to come out.
It is really funny to see people play MMO’s for the first time because they take them so serious like they can put them down and play something new. I remember the first MMO that I play really played serious, it made me sick when I thought of switching over to something new. I was like “I can’t switch look at all the time and money I put into this game” then I realized it is a game and it is all about having fun. I like trying new things and I can’t wait for the new MMO to start hitting the market so they can take some more of my money.
UO-EQ1-SWG-DAOC-WOW-EQ2-WAR-GW2-RIFT
Need I say more?
MMORPG's Under my belt:UO,EQ1,EQ2,SWG,L2,COH,COV,WoW,AC2,Shadowbane,DAOC,FFXI,GW,D&D,V:SOH,LOTR:O
For over 10 years new games were suppose to kill the top dog.
EXAMPLE:
EQ was suppose to kill UO.
DAoC was suppose to kill EQ.
SWG was suppose to kill DAoC.
SWG killed itself.
You see a pattern?
I have tried to get this through people like you heads for many years. You are a dime a dozen who just needs to get with the program or you will spend all your Mothers money on games you will never play. You will be a better shopper when you have to start paying for games yourself.
LOTRO was going to be the death of WoW. I re-subbed after canceling after 3 weeks of LOTRO. I know a few others that have as well as they stated when we chit-chat while adventuring. Let’s see, oh ya, Vangaurd was the death of WoW. I didn’t even try that POS because I knew it was going to fail when I first read about it. I’ve been burned too many times, I can smell a failure a mile away.
Speaking of failures,
AoC seems cool, but has RYL combat mechanics (twitch game mechanics) and you play solo for the first 20 levels. That’s cool for the first time around, but what happens to all the alt junkies out there? Might be beyond repetitive for them. Then again, this is all hearsay because many of AoC’s systems are still in development.
And WAR will be very short lived because WARHAMMER 40K (which many thought WAR was in the first place) will tower over WAR. Who wants an imitation when the real thing is around the corner?
When WAR and AoC lose the “fight” against the immovable object known as WoW, we will have another set of “next-gen” games come up as Contenders.
The difference between you and I is, I will save at least $100. not buying WAR or AoC and I will be happy playing my game.
Personally, I think the thing that will hurt WOW is competition from other Blizzard products, like the next Diablo or a Starcraft MMO if one is ever developed. I agree with the posters who say much of WOW's subscriber base are more Blizzard fans than devotees to the MMOG genre.
However, I completely disagree with the idea that no other upcoming MMOG will not draw in a million or more players. Considering the millions of Warhammer or former Warhammer players worldwide, and considering the huge success of the 40K Dawn of War RTS, I wouldn't be surprised if WAR hit several million players in the first few months. Obviously, the game has to be awesome to keep them, and the Warhammer franchise.
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MMORPG's Under my belt:UO,EQ1,EQ2,SWG,L2,COH,COV,WoW,AC2,Shadowbane,DAOC,FFXI,GW,D&D,V:SOH,LOTR:O
First, and not to be rude here, but your posts don't give the impression of an intelligent driving force behind them, so you really have no place lecturing us on MMORPG trends.
Second, you use nothing but common fallacies to back up your claims, such as presupposition, anecdotal evidence, and bandwagoning.
Now, with that out of the way, I think it goes without saying that any company who would rest on their proverbial laurels can find themselves being supplanted by another, more ambitious company. Thats the nature of a competitive market.
Is Blizzard worried about AoC and WAR? I doubt it. But I certainly think they would be foolish to not keep an eye on these games, and make sure that WoW stays competitive. The people who are worried are most definitely Mythic and Funcom. Not only are they going up against the juggernaut of WoW, but they are also going to be competing with each other, as well as the many other established MMORPG's in the market.
Perception is Reality.