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Carebears and fanbois
I notice a lot of people dis on people who want pve in a game. Ignorantly they call them carebears. When the whole idea of online play stemmed from people's desire to be able to play pen and paper games online without need to call 6 friends all the way over to your house. To this day people play pen n paper games over the internet via text, imagine that. And, I guarantee there are way more of them playing that way than those that sign up for a monthly shot at some dick camping their corpse for 3 hours, or some l33t dude getting into a pissing contest.
The fact is most sane gamers actually pick games that they can not only play, but call up their friends and tell them what a great story and environment it is, not how some 13 yr old wtfpwned them all day.
This Fury game is trash imho. Get off your lazy buts, save up 500 bucks and get a xbox 360 and play gears of wars, it's a much better game and it's already done. Besides, xbox 360 is a tight system. I personally don't have one. If you are going to pay for the privilige of getting wtfpwned to the tune of $15.00/month, [ edited ] let's just say you're stupid.
Let's put this into perspective: i write a program that has character models; fighting gameplay; some scenery and i'm DONE. and i charge idiots 15.00 bucks a month for that? dude that's what a 2 man job? jump gate runs a whole mmorpg on 6 people, including the billing. I don't have to provide any AI nor story.
you guys are sad. 
And that's "One man's opinion"(tm).
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Also some people want a MMO that is PvP don't take offense to that lol.
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PVP is essential to me for a way to test out my items and skills ive aquired through pve, whats the point of pveing for hours to get a new sword so u can kill a monster in 8 hits instead of 9 woohoo. the reason people make fun of people who want PVE is because no matter the game, PVE is a Grind. and without PVP its a grind with no end and no purpose.
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You seem to be very ignorant in what actually goes on to make one of these games... This isn't just a two man job they can do a couple hours a day after they get off work. It is a long, complicated process involving many talented people to bring something like this to light.
You may not like the game, that's fine, but honestly, don't go around trashing people's work as easy. I don't like WoW, but I don't claim my buddy and I could have made it.
Also, you want us to spend $500 dollars... and then another $60 to play a game that doesn't resemble Fury in any way, shape or form? Instead, we can play the game we want to for $15 bucks a month.
Consoles are trash. They are expensive. They don't do anything NEAR what a computer can do. Their games cost $60 now. You can't mod them. You can't Multi-task. You can't upgrade them, at least, not in any sence of putting in more memory or a new graphics card anytime you want. What is the point? They are inferior, EXPECIALLY for shooters.
I'll get Gears of War for PC, but console shooters just suck. All of them.
I think what is sad is that you just come in and bash people for no reason. Everyone has their personal preference. Get over yourself.
Clearly there's about 2 reasons mmo's [there's no mmorpg that i've seen so far] are a bunch of grind fests so far:
1. the complete lack of imagination on the devs part to come up with a rich story that is so encompassing that it would take years to unravel.
2. along with #1, the complete lack of a companies ideas as to how to keep subscribers in the game paying monthly fees.
I'm not saying the pve system is perfect, I'm saying the IDEA was to fill a perceived and real need.
If you've read the forgotten realm books, most of the super duper heroes use gear they got when they were like lvl 3... or worse lvl 1, like drizzt the most famous of them all. He's still using stuff he got when he was lvl 0. Mind you it was twinky stuff, but he was in fact lvl 0, untrained completely.
I personally don't agree with gear fest, grind fest pve systems. I definately wouldn't pay for the priviledge of providing some developer with their content.
WOW approaches a healthy balance. In fact on paper their explanation in beta of how their pvp system was going to work sounded astounding. If I remember correctly, you could take over villages, towns and capitol cities and thereby rule the territory until the other side kicked you out. That sounded like the most innovative thing i'd ever heard of in a game to date. Unfortunately they didn't implement that at all.
instead they did battlegrounds.
I never actually played halo, i've seen countless hours of gears of war, and had my friends talk about it on end. It's got to be hugely popular if what i'm hearing is any indication.
imo if i wtfpwn you in 2 seconds... ok what do i do for the other 4 hours i set aside to play? that crap gets old and boring instantly with me. However, if i have to setup an ambush to wtfpwn you because your'e carrying stolen documents I have to retrieve and make my way back through a dangerous forest to get back to my capitol city to deliver that to my commander, who then gives me a warhorse for my good deed, that'll never get old.
is my scenario in any game right now? No [and why no one is hiring me as lead developer i don't know] but i'd enjoy it much more than "haha schooled you, i just wtfpwned you".
and thats "One man's opinion"(tm).
I agree with some of the things you are saying, it takes alot more than 2 people to make a good MMO that alot of people play but what you are saying about consoles makes no sense. Consoles are less than half the price of an OK computer (mabye not the PS3) and yes they can go near to what a computer can do, as a matter of fact they are computers tweaked for gaming I think thats very clear by now. I love my PC and prefer a PC but also own an xbox 360 and if I was to play an MMO I would play it on my PC but Consoles are really good for single player games and fps online. They offer alot more variety to gaming, you can own gamefly beat games and return them and get new ones for only 15 dollars a month, you cant do that on a PC.
You really think that by adding some more memory to something you are making it superior? The 360 has awesome graphics and I really dont understand how it is sooooo much inferior to the PC. Since when are games all about slightly better graphics, what happened to the people who enjoyed and loved playing their atari or they nintendo. And if anything Consoles excel at shooters, as a matter of fact look at the most popular ones, they are Console so please inform your self before you tell someone else to.
I can do alot of stuff onm y 360, talk, vide chat, download my shows, music it play games without having to install them, get achievements and play halo or any other online multiplayer game and invite my friends to it without having to subscribe and make a million of accounts with different sites just to play a different game.
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shakaama, you seem to be speaking based on the assumption that Fury will be a monthly fee game. That is not the case.
About fifteen million dollars has gone into the development of Fury. The subscription will be optional.
Creating a competitive PvP only game environment is more challenging than you may think. In a PvE game you can practically do what you want with respect to scripts, maps, abilities.. and so on. A PvP only game such as Fury needs to have enough depth that it will have that high replayability value, and it must be balanced and fair. People may play the same map hundreds of times, so it has to be perfect.
whoever thinks console gaming will kill off PC gaming LOL ...
anyway as for fury.. i do like the sound of it.. im actually in the beta test but sadly i dont have access to a pc that can play it on weekends.. so i cant play *sob*
Have you even read those books? he got one sword a while after making it to the surface, another in icewind dale, and i think bruenor made his chainmail tunic after they cleared out mithril hall.. that was quite a ways into his life.. after he was well trained, left the drow city, sived alone in the underdark fightting for survival.. for years.. wow the more i think about it, the more i think yo uhave no clue what you are talking about.
Yawn xbox 360 imho is like watching someone else having sex, it sucks...I hope this will never take the place of a PC.
I believe these machines are just another way of extracting coin from the younger generation. I feel they are also a large contribution as to why so many young people are now FAT. Most kids used to play out, now they sit in front of these machines eating crap food and spending more time playing games rather than completeing their home work ECT. This is making them aggresive towards their parents and other people. Ok there are many who use their machines to socialise across the world, or so thay may claim.
I personally find the attitude of some US kids on many online games playing the Xbox to have the worst manners and attitude towards other people. This may bring me many flames but I feel that Online games companies have unleashed a lack of responsibility by many manufactures not allowing better control. Someone needs to take responsibility.
Our kids are the next gerneration of games, they have much fun to look towards. It would be great if there was a gamers code of conduct. but sadly this dream will never be realised that i am sure of. The fact that they are now allowing xbox and others machines to play against PC players will mean we will end up with even more immature gamers with attitude.
Sigh...might be time to dust down the pencil and get the old D&D books out again and start painting more figures.
Asbo
You're not a 'carebear' if you want PvE.
You're a carebear if you're against FFAPVP, Corpse Looting, truly rare and not "bound" loot, etc.
Carebears like the world to be 'safe' and without any real sense of danger.
Carebear is a term invented during UO for all the players who were scared of Felucca after Trammel was created.
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I played 2 weeks ago in the beta...had lots of lag (with 6mbits)making some chars in alrger battlefield suddenly jump out of nowhere I'll be waiting for my 16 mbits before getting myself killed with one hit again.
So this is Pc vs console ?
And dude , if you are afraid of getting wtfpwnd all day , this game is not for you. Dont even think about playing anything that related to PvP if you think you skill is inferior to a 13 years old.
I am not agaisnt pve , but for me , its boring. You and your 6 friends can team , and kill a boss and yelling " Haha we owned ya face". Maybe its a big deal for you to be superior over AI. But for me, its a joy to be able to compete agaisnt real ppl who have skill, brain and personality.
PvP game is way harder to make than pve. why ? balance . Who care if 10 millions ppl out there using the same skill, or even play the same class if it is pve wise. But if anything overpowered in pvp , you will see a lot of tears and bitching.
Oh , and do some research before you bitch , nobody ask you to pay 15 bucks a month if you dont want to. The game is free to play, and subscription players will have some benefit which dont affect the competitive game play.
Oh man , you compare a FPS game with a MMORPG game ( well , kinda replacing the part RPG by PVP ) ? You are pathetic.
Some ppl just deal with every sistuation like the dogs. If they cannot eat it or screw it , they piss on it and walk away. And I am glad those ppl not gonna play this game.