Which is gonna be better?...this or Aion?

Davio

I really cant tell....they both look good to me....WHATS YOUR OPNION?

endlesone

Been playing Perfect world for more than a month now it is the Philippine Server btw... and imho PW is definitely a WoW Clone.... and thats not bad at all... as for Aion haven't gottena  hold of the game which is in CBT pahse right now still trying to participate though.... and Aion seems to be more lineage 2-like so fro now PW is WoW-like and Aion-Lineage2-like

ill post after i can participate on the CBT of Aion

Maggotscream

Aion.

rogue387

Is Aion gonna be f2p though? If not, then it's not really fair to compare it with PW, which is f2p.

star

Aion.

daemon

What u been smoking? its not a WoW clone by far...

Sure it has an  auction system, profesions and you can have flying mounts, besides wings but lol...

Totally different: graphics style, character customization, pvp, class system and i can go on and on.

Not to mention you put your points where you want at each level. STR INT DEX CON,

items requirement are based on STR or INT or DEX.

you have to gather SP to learn new skills and you cant go lots of different ways as you level.

Basicly its 3 races with 2 classes each but you can go crazy in how you build each class depending on how you wanna play it and what weapons you want to use.

For example warriors can go for insane AOE damage dealers or they can go for single target fast hitting machines. or 2 hander weapon style for hitting hard single targets at range.

If you wanna compare it to another game... Perfect World has more from Lineage 2 in style.

It is how Lineage 2 should have been. With Perfect smooth controls (both wasd and point'n'click),

great customization and interface, awesome graphics, thousand of quests etc.

Saying its a WoW clone makes you look stupid

And nobody can compare it to Aion. Cause nobody is playing Aion to know how it is. Its still in stage of developing.

NiveKSliaK

Originally posted by daemon

And nobody can compare it to Aion. Cause nobody is playing Aion to know how it is. Its still in stage of developing.

and aion will be p2p as far as i know so it isn't even possible to compare them :P

GormandY

Originally posted by Davio


I really cant tell....they both look good to me....WHATS YOUR OPNION?

Lol? Are you serious? You... CANT TELL? What the hell?

3 words. Pay to Play. Period.

spamwich

for alot of people, money isnt an issue, and they wont mind spending a measly $15 a month for something above average. its much cheaper than buying a $50 game every month i tell ya...

Mud_Monster

Originally posted by BattleBoy4
and aion will be p2p as far as i know so it isn't even possible to compare them :P

I disagree.  Time/fun is a lot more valuable to me than a monthly subscription of $15.  I will be playing PW if it is fun for me, not because its free.

 

Seveth

I think that it's unfair, in some aspects, to compare a F2P to a P2P. Why? Well, it's simple -- a P2P has a budget for development, production and design that will be recaptured through subscription fees. They have a lot more room to work with when it comes to making the game better. F2P just doesn't have the cash to do it. Unless the devs are hardcore about making the game and don't mind working day and night for less that satisfactory compensation, the games won't be comparable. It's just business. People don't care enough anymore (especially in the MMO industry) about the product, they're like every other employee working for some type or corporation or big business out there, they're only in it for the money.

 

Those of which aren't in it for the money, are few and far between, and I salute them.

RudedawgCDN

Originally posted by Seveth


I think that it's unfair, in some aspects, to compare a F2P to a P2P. Why? Well, it's simple -- a P2P has a budget for development, production and design that will be recaptured through subscription fees. They have a lot more room to work with when it comes to making the game better. F2P just doesn't have the cash to do it. Unless the devs are hardcore about making the game and don't mind working day and night for less that satisfactory compensation, the games won't be comparable. It's just business. People don't care enough anymore (especially in the MMO industry) about the product, they're like every other employee working for some type or corporation or big business out there, they're only in it for the money.
 
Those of which aren't in it for the money, are few and far between, and I salute them.

Ah you must be really young.

You need money to pay the rent bro.

Getting chicks.

To go on vacation.

Free games have item malls, don't kid yourself about anyone doing anything for the love of trhe "game".

Seveth

Originally posted by zigmund


 
Originally posted by Seveth


I think that it's unfair, in some aspects, to compare a F2P to a P2P. Why? Well, it's simple -- a P2P has a budget for development, production and design that will be recaptured through subscription fees. They have a lot more room to work with when it comes to making the game better. F2P just doesn't have the cash to do it. Unless the devs are hardcore about making the game and don't mind working day and night for less that satisfactory compensation, the games won't be comparable. It's just business. People don't care enough anymore (especially in the MMO industry) about the product, they're like every other employee working for some type or corporation or big business out there, they're only in it for the money.
 
Those of which aren't in it for the money, are few and far between, and I salute them.

Ah you must be really young.

 

You need money to pay the rent bro.

Getting chicks.

To go on vacation.

Free games have item malls, don't kid yourself about anyone doing anything for the love of trhe "game".

Forgive me for trying to give some of those devs that really care out there an inkling of credit.

 

And if you didn't skim, you'd notice that big fat "unless" right in front of that statement. My aim wasn't to say that people enjoy working for little or no pay, it was that people won't work for little or no pay -- for precisely some of the reasons you highlighted.

 

Item malls are a joke, imho anyway. I see how they could seem profitable, but I doubt they clear anywhere near the amount of revenue that persistent subscription fees do.

 

Try not to be as condescending or assume so much next time, I pay rent, I go on vacations, and every now and then *gasp*, I get chicks. I understand the importance of finance. My statement was simply...stating...that on a much more basic level (forgive my ambiguity at first), these two developed game types are a bit unfair to compare.

HappyFunBall

Could you elaborate on how this is a Wow clone?  I played both versions of the game, one with the English patch and the CB, and I don't think this is anything like wow.  Well, they are both MMO's.  That's about it.

 

HappyFunBall

Originally posted by Seveth


I think that it's unfair, in some aspects, to compare a F2P to a P2P. Why? Well, it's simple -- a P2P has a budget for development, production and design that will be recaptured through subscription fees. They have a lot more room to work with when it comes to making the game better. F2P just doesn't have the cash to do it. Unless the devs are hardcore about making the game and don't mind working day and night for less that satisfactory compensation, the games won't be comparable. It's just business. People don't care enough anymore (especially in the MMO industry) about the product, they're like every other employee working for some type or corporation or big business out there, they're only in it for the money.
 
Those of which aren't in it for the money, are few and far between, and I salute them.

I DO understand what you are saying, by F2P games ALL? (at least at some point) have real-cash item malls, do they not?  So, to me, *everyone* is in it for the money AND some are in it to make a great game.  These two things are not mutually exclusive.  I'm a software engineer, and I'm in it for both, a good income and to write quality code->make a quality product, whatever it is.  I'm not greedy, I just want to give my family everything I didn't have, and so on.  People have to make a living!

Item mall based games have a different model for making money, that's it.  Do they make less money?  I really don't know, but it would seem so.  Does it make their game more available to many more players, it sure seems that way, at least through internet distribution.  Big publishers do get their games "out there "via high prices magazine ads, store ads, tv ads, etc though.. so, who knows.

 

Wait, what was my point again?

HappyFunBall

Oh yeah, to stay on-topic, I'd say Aion will pack more quality in.  Not just from what I've seen of it, but everything backed by NCSoft seems to have top-notch quality levels.  Everything has bugs, some games just have a lot less.

Then there's polish, like the GUI, a nice tutorial, great voice-overs, in-game movies, a great tutorial, fast loading times, low lag, etc.  NCSoft kills in that dept.

 

Maggotscream

Ok for starters F2P games with Cash Shops earn more money then P2P games.

I think that Aion will bring a better quality game to the table because of many things. NCSoft have the money, experience and fanbase to back Aion. Not to say that PW doesn't have it's fans but alot of people will hear about Aion via friends who have played L2 or other games.

blaam

Originally posted by Davio


I really cant tell....they both look good to me....WHATS YOUR OPNION?

those are too complet different games.. the only tihng they have in comon is the fly feature, but then PW isnt a real "fly".. flying is slow way too slow imo.

Technically PW seem to be a Lineage 2 engine clone with  "false real 3D" the flying isnt very intuitve imho and doesnt feel "realistic".. but still besides the fact its old techniocally its still hs a LOT of good things, lot of content and lot of good ideas + the best customisation avatar  i ever  saw in a mmorpg so far.

It wil be ( it is already) a real sucess in asia specially china with that girl ( cant remmeber her name but shes is very very famous there, the one that served as model) its obivious the game was designed for asia market.. storyline and mobs are very asian mythlogie focused.. wich is a bit hard to me to get used too ( not that i dont like.. i m jsut too western typos addicted i guess ).

 

Aion on the other en is taking the way of a very polished game.. with a awsome lore and a "real flying feature" and lot of other good ideas.. but from what i have read from  some CB previews ( guess they not making sur NDA is  followed ^^)  you feel more like playing WOW than L2 even though the grafics are more L2 ihes..

 

Imo AION will be a big surprise in 2008 and should close lot of mouthes about the "asian grinder" typo.. but i could be wrong.... either way one if F2P ( mail box ?) the other one will be P2P...AIon will be officially supported in europe and US while i dont know about PW ( only english playable was phillipines so far)

on a personnal opinion i d say AIon is better by much.. but then again.. i played PW  and didint  AIon.(though i been following it since the beginning when it was still a L3 project and i have seen pretty much any vids/screen since that)

 

 

 

Vaden

Originally posted by spamwich


for alot of people, money isnt an issue, and they wont mind spending a measly $15 a month for something above average. its much cheaper than buying a $50 game every month i tell ya...

Who buys a 50 dollar game each month? mm.. i guess a person with alot time and money on his or her hands

But really.. the only thing i hate about p2p games is.. if by some reason you're forced to stop paying or you just stop paying period.. no way u kan play the game again, unless someone makes a server hack... of kourse, unlike FFXI, most games dont delete your player after 3 months. lol thats just krewl

bumbayker

I don't see why there should be a comparison which is better  between PW and Aion. For one thing PW has been out for over 2 years (from China) while Aion is still in its beta stages. PW is current gen MMO and Aion is next gen. PW is probably the best F2P MMO there is to date and beats some of the leading P2P MMOs in the market. Aion is indeed graphically stunning but it takes more than visuals nowadays to satisfy the  MMO community.

Felinekitten

IMO:

about P2P n F2P:

i really dont think there has too much difference between P2P n F2P in essence. F2P is just another game-releasing  form which comes from very  tough asian game-marketing commercial competition. remember theres no free lunch, every game company try to earn money. actually, F2P is more flexible-- if u had time and u dont wanna pay for game-playing. just play thourgh spending time, and exchange cash shop itmes with game currency. if u got to work or took care ur family, and dont wanna spend much more time on game fun but still wanna FUN( far away behind others will never be fun xD...), just buy something to save time.further, F2P itself is a very nice ad to attract you to figure out how the game really is. a 14days-trail will never let u know  essence of a game.btw,the local version which had released in 2005 is P2P-,monthly fee, I have palyed, nothing different. still, F2P dont mean it comes from a small company. Perfect Space in deed have about 160 employees(17% is PH.d or Master) who work on game researching, art ,programming, music, ideas making, etc.

aboout grinding:

IMO, every MMORPG is about grinding.those so-called asina grindings may spend lots time on lvling. but arent those so-called non-grinding games? yes, u may reach 60 the top lvl in 2 weeks, but wont u slay bosses again and agian for itmes? it is still do it AGAIN AND AGAIN, just for another purpose- better itmes. may still the same purpose, the strongest one. u will never allow to be a suddenly super hero in MMORPGs. its unfair for those who have spent more time than u. Just imagine,every one can reach top situation in very shot time, and everyone in the server r same, is it really fun? if u say yes, sorry RPG dont fit u, go for FPS xD.. trust me, every MMORPG is about grinding in essence, even in the furture. just figure out how much features can an MMO contain. thats all a good MMO about.

PerfectWorld or Aion:

PW is developed by element enginering, which was developed by perfect space company itsself. althought it based on DrictX 8.1,anybody can see how good it is. if u dont just have an ugly PC configuration. just open all effect, chosing a feather one fly from feather city, to east, over that lake, to bamboo villiage. im sure that it wont lose even compare today's game. of course, there r lots beautiful landscape at other location, this example is the fastest way u can feel.and the water effect, very impressive,kinda real. update ur computer. it will be worthwhile. and the charactor custmization, the best by now,which is supposed to appear long ago. think about flying system, independent fasion system, various fighting system dual, PK, PVP, arena, till territory war,(btw, the PW international china ver is testing flying battle in territory war, ) It have lots settled events every weeks, some everyday through whichn u can earn prizes call prooves of speed,might,wisdom,fearlessness,courage,skill and endurance, these 7 prooves can exchange verious rare things at NPC in game. and lots flying/running mount pet, battle pet. those all u can try urselves after OB. and guys, all these come from 2005.and some of those ideas still fresh even unique by now.

the items about PW. Proper material collection and crafting? yes. and further more. in WOW, ur item got different bonus attribute +str/+atk.spd etc. and different lvl normal/epic etc. and have sockets on them so that u can embed gems on them. in lineage, u can enchant ur items make them +1+2+3+4 to improve them basic attribution.but wutever bunus attribute, embedment, gems,shinning apperance,special weapon animatiom. all about items in MMORPG u can find in PW. AND... dont like ur armor apperance but cant withstand attraction of its attribute? HIDE IT SHOW UR FASION. next question? xD...

the grinding about PW.1-40 all through quests.over 40, you need grind some to reach next lvl to get new quest. the higher the more.  For avoiding more grinding n thinking about those who cant play long time, PW have two 24-hours repeated quests, one from 30, another more from 70 to make sure u wont fall behind too much. both of them can give u about 25% exp at lvl 30 and 70, the higher lvl the less . after 85, prepare to do some grinding. but 85vs89 90vs95, not much difference.on the other hand, if u r a grinding maniac,PW prepare lvl100 and lvl8 legion set(which need 200k reputation T_T) for u xD... go for it. of course just more powerful, not super.

there is another thing that u guys may cant feel . perfect space developers r full of entertainment spirit. this game is full of humor. lots NPC's name/dialog and quest comes from today's real chinese life, such as satirizing films and its charactors, or some popular internet joke.so when i was playing it, those sometimes make me laugh .

and Aion,

its still in CB in Aisan region. sure i havent played yet. i m NOT some ppl just conclude by name ,first glance , or lineage. All i can say about PW vs Aion, if we must compare them, is that if this game, Aion, which comes out less than three years later, from a well-known game company, cant gvie us more fun than PW as an MMORPG, i will consider its a tragedy.

well, sry i m an PW advocator xD.....  but all above is my personal opinions. OB comes. figure out urselves. GL n HF guys this midnight.