You also gonna make thread about the 100s of Asian MMO website claiming they have the most awared game in [Instert Asian country]?
Also Diablo is an action RPG, infact seeing there core members have created Diablo they have an right to claim the titel for first, last and only voice.
No Diablo is not RPG nor action RPG nor combat RPG or whatever. And I don't care who or what calls it that way, I don't care if those 18 years old kids called reviewers, writing for pseudo review websites like IGN or gamespot. RPG is a genre with its specifications. Diablo doesnt meet any of those.
Is tropico a game called political RPG? Sims called life RPG?, Europa 1400 Guild called economical RPG? No same as Diablo is not action RPG, it's just action game.
In tropico or Europa 1400 guild you have a story, you have a character with traits you pick and improve. That's just not enough to call a game a RPG. And Diablo has nothing more.
Originally posted by Duilyon Originally posted by Thillian Originally posted by Coman You also gonna make thread about the 100s of Asian MMO website claiming they have the most awared game in [Instert Asian country]?
Also Diablo is an action RPG, infact seeing there core members have created Diablo they have an right to claim the titel for first, last and only voice.
No Diablo is not RPG nor action RPG nor combat RPG or whatever. And I don't care who or what calls it that way, I don't care if those 18 years old kids called reviewers, writing for pseudo review websites like IGN or gamespot. RPG is a genre with its specifications. Diablo doesnt meet any of those.
Is tropico a game called political RPG? Sims called life RPG?, Europa 1400 Guild called economical RPG? No same as Diablo is not action RPG, it's just action game. In tropico or Europa 1400 guild you have a story, you have a character with traits you pick and improve. That's just not enough to call a game a RPG. And Diablo has nothing more.
What is Diablo 2 then if not an Action RPG?
probably somewhere in the genre of a adventure game lol
If the Diablo series are not RPGs nor Action RPGs, then please educate me and explain what RPG games are. I really would like to know, i've always thought they are RPGs, or action RPGs at least.
I'd like a response from the OP
RPGames give full control over your character. You have plenty of choices how to complete certain activities like quests. You are able to gain reputation in the world, and form your own alligment. In RPG games you can actually think of your RP style (examples: you dislike elves and you will never help -- never undertake any quests from them and take all that wants you to do something bad to them, or you don't trust magicians and therefore you never even speak to them cause you are afraid of them etc. RPGame should allow you to do such decisions, and not limit you in such an extent as Diablo does.
Games like these were not many, but only those give a real feeling of roleplaying that you know from RP pen and paper. Arcanum, Fallout 1/2, Greyhawk TOEE, Vampire the Bloodlines, Planescape Torment, BG1, Gothic1/2, older games I recall bard's tale 1 the version from 1987, lands of lore 1,...
RPgame should have :
adventure (Diablo has it altho it's as linear as possible and doesn't allow you to do anything off the scheme)
character customization (cookie cutter classes with a few talent trees , all just suited for combat and action. There's no single skill that wouldn't somehow improve combat) System with no social skills is no system at all for RP
story (diablo has no story, no don't try to convince me that an evil diablo-guy is going to destroy the world and you have to stop him is a story)
social interaction (there are no skills like diplomacy, bluff, persuade no reputation no sneaking, no pick pocketing, no open locking, no trap disarming ... , it's just as combat oriented as you could possibly imagine)
subquests (I don't think there is a single quests outside of main quest line, I have to admit i didn't finish the whole game but I don't remember getting any quests outside of main quest line, very few optionals)
The game offers nothing more outside of combat, there is nothing, it's just stupidly linear and the only thing you need to do is to smash your mouse buttons. It's pure action game with a few RPG features. But that's also Tropico or The Sims.
1) Adventuring. First off you can go into caves and places that are not required by the story line just for the sake of EXPLORING and ADVENTURING!
2) Customization: It has plenty of that. Each class has 3 specs then within each spec they can choose what skills they want to specialize in. Like Assassin, they can choose Traps then choose either Fire traps or Lightning to specialize in. That is some customization.
3) There is a story...so don't bullshit and say there isn't. It isn't good but meh, some RPGs have shit stories.
4) Social interaction..games like Final Fantasy do NOT have any of that social interaction, you cannot persuade people or any of that D&D stuff.
5) From what I remember you do not have to do all the quests and only some are "main story" quests. So technically the ones you don't have to do are sub quests I suppose..hehe.
1) Adventuring. First off you can go into caves and places that are not required by the story line just for the sake of EXPLORING and ADVENTURING!
2) Customization: It has plenty of that. Each class has 3 specs then within each spec they can choose what skills they want to specialize in. Like Assassin, they can choose Traps then choose either Fire traps or Lightning to specialize in. That is some customization.
3) There is a story...so don't bullshit and say there isn't. It isn't good but meh, some RPGs have shit stories.
4) Social interaction..games like Final Fantasy do NOT have any of that social interaction, you cannot persuade people or any of that D&D stuff.
5) From what I remember you do not have to do all the quests and only some are "main story" quests. So technically the ones you don't have to do are sub quests I suppose..hehe.
IGN:
"No, I'm sorry, but no matter how much publicity Blizzard paid for, Diablo isn't a roleplaying game. A few stats don't substitute for real interaction with a fantasy universe, which is the hallmark of any RPG, paper-and-pencil or computerized. Diablo and its descendents are highly linear action games?"
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No Diablo is not RPG nor action RPG nor combat RPG or whatever. And I don't care who or what calls it that way, I don't care if those 18 years old kids called reviewers, writing for pseudo review websites like IGN or gamespot. RPG is a genre with its specifications. Diablo doesnt meet any of those.
Is tropico a game called political RPG? Sims called life RPG?, Europa 1400 Guild called economical RPG? No same as Diablo is not action RPG, it's just action game.
In tropico or Europa 1400 guild you have a story, you have a character with traits you pick and improve. That's just not enough to call a game a RPG. And Diablo has nothing more.
What is Diablo 2 then if not an Action RPG?
No Diablo is not RPG nor action RPG nor combat RPG or whatever. And I don't care who or what calls it that way, I don't care if those 18 years old kids called reviewers, writing for pseudo review websites like IGN or gamespot. RPG is a genre with its specifications. Diablo doesnt meet any of those.
Is tropico a game called political RPG? Sims called life RPG?, Europa 1400 Guild called economical RPG? No same as Diablo is not action RPG, it's just action game.
In tropico or Europa 1400 guild you have a story, you have a character with traits you pick and improve. That's just not enough to call a game a RPG. And Diablo has nothing more.
What is Diablo 2 then if not an Action RPG?
probably somewhere in the genre of a adventure game lol
Games like these were not many, but only those give a real feeling of roleplaying that you know from RP pen and paper. Arcanum, Fallout 1/2, Greyhawk TOEE, Vampire the Bloodlines, Planescape Torment, BG1, Gothic1/2, older games I recall bard's tale 1 the version from 1987, lands of lore 1,...
RPgame should have :
The game offers nothing more outside of combat, there is nothing, it's just stupidly linear and the only thing you need to do is to smash your mouse buttons. It's pure action game with a few RPG features. But that's also Tropico or The Sims.
IGN:
"No, I'm sorry, but no matter how much publicity Blizzard paid for, Diablo isn't a roleplaying game. A few stats don't substitute for real interaction with a fantasy universe, which is the hallmark of any RPG, paper-and-pencil or computerized. Diablo and its descendents are highly linear action games?"
http://pc.ign.com/articles/376/376019p3.html