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  • HaynsoulHaynsoul Member Posts: 21
    Originally posted by Zorvan


    Imagine this:
     
    12 year old girl makes online friend with 12 year old boy.
     
    12 year old girl starts talking to 12 year old boy in friend chat.
     
    12 year old boy and 12 year old girl start having dirty little conversations.
     
    12 year old girl agrees to meet up with 12 year old boy.
     
    12 year old boy is really 40 year old pervert.
     
    12 year old girl turns up in river, dead.
     
    All because it would be improper to monitor private chat in a game marketed toward children.
     
    I applaud Disney for this. OP, suck it up OR play a game NOT intended for children.
     

     

    That's really the parents fault for not teaching the girl any better AND for not checking her online activities. If she's subscribed to the game then even more so because they should know her account information (since they most likely paid for it).

     

    I don't know why it's always the companies to blame when something bad happens to someone. It's not their fault the parents can't take care of their kids.

  • WSIMikeWSIMike Member Posts: 5,564

    I always love how these discussions break down into "who's to blame" and "what rights do people have" and "how do other countries perceive cursing"...

    While it's all very interesting discussion (I discuss it myself at times), it's ultimately irrelevant to the situation...

    Disney is apparently strict about language in their game, prohibits it via their ToS, actively enforces it by monitoring the chat channels and penalizing those who violate it.

    Dont' want to risk suspension... choose different words.

    Their game. Their rules. Don't like it? Don't play.

    It's really that simple.

    Not trying to sound harsh or whatever.. I'm personally not offended by cursing; couldn't care less how others talk.

    However, rules are rules.

     

    "If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road,
    and the cash shop selling asphalt..."
    - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops

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  • VincentZioVincentZio Member Posts: 2
    Originally posted by dragon733


    Private/Crew chat between me and my cousin! These instances were within the context of PRIVATE chat that no one but me and my cousin could see. I've never sworn outside of private chat, and I hardly talk to other people at all.
    Here's the majority of the email they sent me:
    "We are writing to inform you that inappropriate language has been found within a chat log attached to your account, shown below:
    *a bunch of examples of me swearing to my cousin and no one else, in a 100% private chat area*
    Due to the nature of the language, we have placed your account on a 72-hour hold. To regain access to your account after the 72 hours, please review and agree to our Terms of Use and House Rules here: http://disney.go.com/corporate/legal/terms.html.";
     
    Wtf... they penalize me for PERSONAL conversations? This is pure bullshit, even if it is Disney! Other than this, I barely talk to other people at all, let alone say anything bad! They shouldn't be locking my account for 3 days for shit that I've said in private situations, where the person doesn't mind and no one else sees it!
     
    The funny thing is, they have some really retarded systems. I got the e-mail about 2 hours ago, but I'm still in-game! I assume that if I log out, the tempban will then be enacted. The idiots! When I'm going to leave, I'll just go AFK in a quiet area and leave the game open! I can play through the entire account lock, and laugh about it the entire time!
     
    This is retarded, even for Disney.

     

    Call them and cuss them out. Seriously. They have you call them if you get banned (At least I've read that somewhere).

     

    I would make bomb threats.

  • felinemagicfelinemagic Member Posts: 26
    Originally posted by Haynsoul

    Originally posted by Zorvan


    Imagine this:
     
    12 year old girl makes online friend with 12 year old boy.
     
    12 year old girl starts talking to 12 year old boy in friend chat.
     
    12 year old boy and 12 year old girl start having dirty little conversations.
     
    12 year old girl agrees to meet up with 12 year old boy.
     
    12 year old boy is really 40 year old pervert.
     
    12 year old girl turns up in river, dead.
     
    All because it would be improper to monitor private chat in a game marketed toward children.
     
    I applaud Disney for this. OP, suck it up OR play a game NOT intended for children.
     

     

    That's really the parents fault for not teaching the girl any better AND for not checking her online activities. If she's subscribed to the game then even more so because they should know her account information (since they most likely paid for it).

     

    I don't know why it's always the companies to blame when something bad happens to someone. It's not their fault the parents can't take care of their kids.

     

    This is not meant as a flame Haynsoul, so don't get your underwear in a wedgie.   I have to agree with Zorvan on this issue.  Perverts are good at what they do online, read the statistics for cripes sake.  

    Myself as a single parent taught my Son all about the evils in life, however, I couldn't be everywhere all of the time.  I had to work and sleep (on my keys), ya know?  So, to blame it all on parents is just plain ridiculous. 

    I too applaud Disney for their effort to keep a clean environment for all ages to enjoy.  

     

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    I will tell you why it is still bad to do inside the game.You need to think before you act,what if by mistake you did not click your private chat and it hit the main chat?This is VERY possible,i have done it a ton of times.

    It is actually VERY good to see that they are doing a proper job of monitoring their game,this is something Blizzard and many others take a back seat to.

    I once got was away from playing EQ2 for about a week,when i returned i had several pm's from RMT,well not about 20 minutes after i logged in,a GM started to talk to me.He told me to make sure i report any illegal messages like RMT trying to sell stuff.I was actually happy to see that they are right on top of the game,that is always a good thing.

     

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • WildvixennWildvixenn Member Posts: 23

    Originally posted by dragon733

    Private/Crew chat between me and my cousin! These instances were within the context of PRIVATE chat that no one but me and my cousin could see. I've never sworn outside of private chat, and I hardly talk to other people at all.

    Here's the majority of the email they sent me:

    "We are writing to inform you that inappropriate language has been found within a chat log attached to your account, shown below:

    *a bunch of examples of me swearing to my cousin and no one else, in a 100% private chat area*

    Due to the nature of the language, we have placed your account on a 72-hour hold. To regain access to your account after the 72 hours, please review and agree to our Terms of Use and House Rules here: http://disney.go.com/corporate/legal/terms.html.";

     

    Wtf... they penalize me for PERSONAL conversations? This is pure bullshit, even if it is Disney! Other than this, I barely talk to other people at all, let alone say anything bad! They shouldn't be locking my account for 3 days for shit that I've said in private situations, where the person doesn't mind and no one else sees it!

     

    The funny thing is, they have some really retarded systems. I got the e-mail about 2 hours ago, but I'm still in-game! I assume that if I log out, the tempban will then be enacted. The idiots! When I'm going to leave, I'll just go AFK in a quiet area and leave the game open! I can play through the entire account lock, and laugh about it the entire time!

     

    This is retarded, even for Disney.

    And disney also makes games and movies for childern.

    This game is really heavy on the swearing kind of thing because there are very young childern who play this game as well. It is a disney game afterall. Look at it from thier perspective. They probably didn't even know you were talking to your cousin, and honestly What do you expect. I mean do you honestly think disney wants people in their game swearing in chat to other people publicly or privatly while there are kids playing as well? Use your head next time. Seriously

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  • narakuunarakuu Member Posts: 348

    Oh no he used words... "bad" words... how about we stop acting like dramaqueens and stop denying the only reason they have any higher effect then any other words is because we by ourselves psychologically look at those words differently when they simply describe something or express something just like any other word, they arent going to physically hurt children... and if you dont want your children to hear certain words, why dont you lock them up in a room with a tv and slide food in through a hole since you apparently dont want to be a parent.

    stop making your offsprings into other peoples responsibility. I dont like parents who blame the problems on everything else and think that the rest of the world should cater to their kids, no its not harder to raise a kid in todays society, todays society is just lazier and whine louder when they dont get what they want.

    In summary, I dont think he should have been banned and it doesnt matter if it was private or not, learn to use ignore if you dont like what someone is saying and if your kids see a bad word maybe you should try explaining it and have your kid understand the meaning of it and why its not used in public and etc, but thats up to you since its not my place to tell you how to raise your kid but stop making your kid(s) everyone elses problem. Thank you.

    p.s: I like kids (no not that creepy way)

  • WildvixennWildvixenn Member Posts: 23

    Originally posted by narakuu

    Oh no he used words... "bad" words... how about we stop acting like dramaqueens and stop denying the only reason they have any higher effect then any other words is because we by ourselves psychologically look at those words differently when they simply describe something or express something just like any other word, they arent going to physically hurt children... and if you dont want your children to hear certain words, why dont you lock them up in a room with a tv and slide food in through a hole since you apparently dont want to be a parent.

    stop making your offsprings into other peoples responsibility. I dont like parents who blame the problems on everything else and think that the rest of the world should cater to their kids, no its not harder to raise a kid in todays society, todays society is just lazier and whine louder when they dont get what they want.

    In summary, I dont think he should have been banned and it doesnt matter if it was private or not, learn to use ignore if you dont like what someone is saying and if your kids see a bad word maybe you should try explaining it and have your kid understand the meaning of it and why its not used in public and etc, but thats up to you since its not my place to tell you how to raise your kid but stop making your kid(s) everyone elses problem. Thank you.

    p.s: I like kids (no not that creepy way)

    That must be a pretty easy thing to say about perants out there when your still living at home with your perants yourself.

    You know A wise old man once said ignorance is out there more then ever, and even more so in this point and time, especially so in our young generation. Meaning me and you, because we are both in our 20's. The man who said that was Lewis Black.

    It's Pretty obvious to me by reading what you posted you don't have childern of your own. Let alone work 2 jobs 6 days a week. And if you ever do. Maybe you'll realize that bringing up childern in this day and age isn't as easy as typing out a few statments backed up with no proof or a common thought to what it might be like for a mother to raise 2 kids of her own with no help from the father or her family and is stuck working 2 jobs just so she can put food on the table and at the same time try to keep her kids from watching all the Violence and Sex on T.V, Media, Magazines, and the internet all in hopes to raise 2 kids well with good morals, and values. 

    This really Goes to show your complete and utter ignorance to somthing you have no idea about. Do some research before forming an opinion on such things about other people, or better yet actually put yourself into other peoples shoes, and get socialized. Because in the real world. The world isn't black and white.

    It must be that "All about me" generation that Lewis Black was talking about that you apperantly live in hmm? Maybe one day when you actually meet a girl thats descent, and have kids you will just see how hard it is to raise kids "in this day and age."

     

    **I'm sorry for getting off topic everyone. I just hate ignorant people who have no idea what they are talking about.**

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  • narakuunarakuu Member Posts: 348

    Originally posted by Wildvixenn

    Originally posted by narakuu

    Oh no he used words... "bad" words... how about we stop acting like dramaqueens and stop denying the only reason they have any higher effect then any other words is because we by ourselves psychologically look at those words differently when they simply describe something or express something just like any other word, they arent going to physically hurt children... and if you dont want your children to hear certain words, why dont you lock them up in a room with a tv and slide food in through a hole since you apparently dont want to be a parent.

    stop making your offsprings into other peoples responsibility. I dont like parents who blame the problems on everything else and think that the rest of the world should cater to their kids, no its not harder to raise a kid in todays society, todays society is just lazier and whine louder when they dont get what they want.

    In summary, I dont think he should have been banned and it doesnt matter if it was private or not, learn to use ignore if you dont like what someone is saying and if your kids see a bad word maybe you should try explaining it and have your kid understand the meaning of it and why its not used in public and etc, but thats up to you since its not my place to tell you how to raise your kid but stop making your kid(s) everyone elses problem. Thank you.

    p.s: I like kids (no not that creepy way)

    That must be a pretty easy thing to say about perants out there when your still living at home with your perants yourself.

    You know A wise old man once said ignorance is out there more then ever, and even more so in this point and time, especially so in our young generation. Meaning me and you, because we are both in our 20's. The man who said that was Lewis Black.

    It's Pretty obvious to me by reading what you posted you don't have childern of your own. Let alone work 2 jobs 6 days a week. And if you ever do. Maybe you'll realize that bringing up childern in this day and age isn't as easy as typing out a few statments backed up with no proof or a common thought to what it might be like for a mother to raise 2 kids of her own with no help from the father or her family and is stuck working 2 jobs just so she can put food on the table and at the same time try to keep her kids from watching all the Violence and Sex on T.V, Media, Magazines, and the internet all in hopes to raise 2 kids well with good morals, and values. 

    This really Goes to show your complete and utter ignorance to somthing you have no idea about. Do some research before forming an opinion on such things about other people, or better yet actually put yourself into other peoples shoes, and get socialized. Because in the real world. The world isn't black and white.

    It must be that "All about me" generation that Lewis Black was talking about that you apperantly live in hmm? Maybe one day when you actually meet a girl thats descent, and have kids you will just see how hard it is to raise kids "in this day and age."

     

    **I'm sorry for getting off topic everyone. I just hate ignorant people who have no idea what they are talking about.**

    Who is ignorant here?

    Stop pretending like everyone is living life like a sad drama movie, does every family only have a mom and no dad? why is it a single mom who has problem and not a single dad? you're already being ignorant by basically rambling up the plots of bad tragedy movies. Why did this person get kids in the first place if she/he didnt have the means to support them? Stupidity? Is that somehow my fault and now the rest of the society has to suffer and adopt to their needs because they made bad decisions? You're not coming off as kind and loving if thats what you think and even less as intelligent, you just think people should do whatever they want to do when it comes to kids and everyone else should then change according to their whim to make it easier for them.

    Yes I dont have kids because I know what a big step in life that is, how much effort and time it requires to be a good parent and I'm neither economically or mentally ready for that kind of a step in my life... and I acknowledge that instead of going out and getting kids to make myself feel better and then when reality hits I start trying to make my life easier by making life worse for the people around me who dont have kids.

    You might think this is off-topic but the reason I'm arguing this point is because the reason disney has to have such strict rules in place about language in the first place is for this same reason.

    Oh and as for the last bit, how hard it is to have kids in this day and age? Just stop it, things are easier then before unless you live in specific parts of the world and self pity isnt going to garner any sympathy whatsoever.


  • Originally posted by narakuu

    Originally posted by Wildvixenn

    Originally posted by narakuu

    Oh no he used words... "bad" words... how about we stop acting like dramaqueens and stop denying the only reason they have any higher effect then any other words is because we by ourselves psychologically look at those words differently when they simply describe something or express something just like any other word, they arent going to physically hurt children... and if you dont want your children to hear certain words, why dont you lock them up in a room with a tv and slide food in through a hole since you apparently dont want to be a parent.

    stop making your offsprings into other peoples responsibility. I dont like parents who blame the problems on everything else and think that the rest of the world should cater to their kids, no its not harder to raise a kid in todays society, todays society is just lazier and whine louder when they dont get what they want.

    In summary, I dont think he should have been banned and it doesnt matter if it was private or not, learn to use ignore if you dont like what someone is saying and if your kids see a bad word maybe you should try explaining it and have your kid understand the meaning of it and why its not used in public and etc, but thats up to you since its not my place to tell you how to raise your kid but stop making your kid(s) everyone elses problem. Thank you.

    p.s: I like kids (no not that creepy way)

    That must be a pretty easy thing to say about perants out there when your still living at home with your perants yourself.

    You know A wise old man once said ignorance is out there more then ever, and even more so in this point and time, especially so in our young generation. Meaning me and you, because we are both in our 20's. The man who said that was Lewis Black.

    It's Pretty obvious to me by reading what you posted you don't have childern of your own. Let alone work 2 jobs 6 days a week. And if you ever do. Maybe you'll realize that bringing up childern in this day and age isn't as easy as typing out a few statments backed up with no proof or a common thought to what it might be like for a mother to raise 2 kids of her own with no help from the father or her family and is stuck working 2 jobs just so she can put food on the table and at the same time try to keep her kids from watching all the Violence and Sex on T.V, Media, Magazines, and the internet all in hopes to raise 2 kids well with good morals, and values. 

    This really Goes to show your complete and utter ignorance to somthing you have no idea about. Do some research before forming an opinion on such things about other people, or better yet actually put yourself into other peoples shoes, and get socialized. Because in the real world. The world isn't black and white.

    It must be that "All about me" generation that Lewis Black was talking about that you apperantly live in hmm? Maybe one day when you actually meet a girl thats descent, and have kids you will just see how hard it is to raise kids "in this day and age."

     

    **I'm sorry for getting off topic everyone. I just hate ignorant people who have no idea what they are talking about.**

    Who is ignorant here?

    Stop pretending like everyone is living life like a sad drama movie, does every family only have a mom and no dad? why is it a single mom who has problem and not a single dad? you're already being ignorant by basically rambling up the plots of bad tragedy movies. Why did this person get kids in the first place if she/he didnt have the means to support them? Stupidity? Is that somehow my fault and now the rest of the society has to suffer and adopt to their needs because they made bad decisions? You're not coming off as kind and loving if thats what you think and even less as intelligent, you just think people should do whatever they want to do when it comes to kids and everyone else should then change according to their whim to make it easier for them.

    Yes I dont have kids because I know what a big step in life that is, how much effort and time it requires to be a good parent and I'm neither economically or mentally ready for that kind of a step in my life... and I acknowledge that instead of going out and getting kids to make myself feel better and then when reality hits I start trying to make my life easier by making life worse for the people around me who dont have kids.

    You might think this is off-topic but the reason I'm arguing this point is because the reason disney has to have such strict rules in place about language in the first place is for this same reason.

    Oh and as for the last bit, how hard it is to have kids in this day and age? Just stop it, things are easier then before unless you live in specific parts of the world and self pity isnt going to garner any sympathy whatsoever.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

       Honestly you're bringing something into this that is obviouse that he wasn't thinking about. I kind of take offense to your statement about the youth of America, not every kid is a dumbass. I do believe ignorance is everpresent, but for you to say that kids now a days are full of ignorance and don't have any hope just shows that history might as well repeat itself. Remember the 60's and 70's? Everyone said the hippies were gonna all die, everyone said the Rockers were immoral, but funny thing about that is they were being kids and they were kids far ahead of their time. Honestly these kids now only have themselves to blame, but what have the parents done for them? And the thing about a single mother raising her kids, well you don't want your boys growing up with the mind of a girl so the sooner they learn the downsides about sex, drugs, and violence the better off they are. If you don't teach them early on they wind up being prude little pussy punk bitches thats just the way I see it.

     

     

     

     

     

  • nobotttersnobottters Member Posts: 88

    Is there a chat filter in game? If so, the ban is ludicrous

     

    As for others opinions, as a game moderator for many games, and experience in running high traffic websites and chat

    sites for 10+ years, its not the adult language being the problem

     

    The 9 year olds in these games and their language is what is shocking. They are protecting nothing with sort of automated ban system, and if they can monitor the chat and ban, they can filter the chat and run a filter and remove it... Which would be the more appropriate path and company stance.

    This sounds phony to me though, sounds like someone is trying to get your account info???

    Regards,
    Nobotters - A better gaming experience

  • RenoakuRenoaku Member EpicPosts: 3,157

    Well my guess is that they put in a patch Client Side, or Server side, so that it flags swear words sent through the server. When it is done in any chat including private chat, or anything gets flagged, a GM Reads it. I am glad that they are watching everyone since this is a game for Minors though, and if you want to swear at your brother, or someone else, then get an external application, such as skype, yahoo,msn,etc, which they do not control. Also when it comes down to it they only suspended your account for 3 days, and asked you to read the rules again, and I would say that you got off lucky with this.


     


    Personally I wont play a game like this though, because there are much better games anyways.
  • WhiteLanternWhiteLantern Member RarePosts: 3,319

    Ummm, no offense guys, but the OP was 2 years ago.

    edit: almost 3 actually

    I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil

  • DLangleyDLangley Member Posts: 1,407

    Please do not necro posting in old threads. Locked.

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