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Let's make a game that *isn't* a WoW clone!
ZsasZ
Member Posts: 208
Seems like the two most popular WoW-related rants these days are 'WoW is dying' and the fact that every MMO ever created is a WoW clone. I've even seen that charge leveled against EVE Online, but I hope to god they were just joking. So, let's design an MMO that is in no way a WoW clone! We'll start off by listing the features we can't use;
- No fantasy settings.
- No multiple races.
- No multiple classes.
- No instanced areas.
- No non-instanced areas.
- No PVP.
- No PVE.
- No in-game chat.
- No Auction House.
- No raiding.
- No loot drops.
- No tiered gear.
- No monthly fee.
- No spells or abilities.
- No hotbar for above-mentioned spells and abilities.
- No talent, ability, or skill points.
- No character progression.
- No grinding.
- No quest-givers.
- No quests.
Okay. Now that we have all that, we take what's left and make a game! Without further ado, I give you, The Non-WoW-Clone-Game!
Nope, that's not a screenshot, that's the full game. Enjoy.
The point to all this is that there's a difference between similar themes and outright copyright infringement. There's only one game I'd actually consider a WoW clone, and that's Talisman Online. I'm guessing the only reason the Blizz lawyers haven't brought down thier almighty wrath is that they don't know abbout it.
Evil will always win, because Good is dumb.
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lol nice one, totally agree with u on that point.
Also the "I hate SOE forever" is something weird, but then again i havent played pre or post-NGE SWG
but to burn a unreleased SOE game seems harsh
MMOs currently playing: -
About to play: Lord of the Rings Online
Played: Anarchy Online (alltime favorite) and lots of f2p titles (honorable mentions: 9Dragons, Martial Heroes, Dekaron, Atlantica Online)
Not really, I can understand that to a point. If a certain company burns you enough, you get gunshy. I for one will never use an AT&T product ever again, for example.
Evil will always win, because Good is dumb.
SOE don't see you as their customer, more that they see you as their bitch.
I'm curious how you'd be a WoW clone by including these features...can you please point out the ones which WoW invented and didn't take from games before it?
Whooooooooooooooosh!
Is the sound this thread makes as it goes straight over somebody's head
LOL...yeah, just re-read the OP.
p.s. I really would like to see a lot more MMOs without fantasy settings, btw.
I like toast.
Haha so true
Ya know...I almost suggested the Sims....
...until I realized they have skill points too.
WOW CLONE! ALERT ALERT!
Sorry to dissagree with you but if you did all of those things you would not have a wow clone you won't have anything like you show. However since Blizzard didn't invent almost ANY of the things you mentioned why would including them in your mmo make it a WOW clone? If you want a game that isn't a WOW clone try out something like Asheron's Call, its dated but way different, and a completely fun experience. I do believe that some games have tried to copy the success of WOW by implementing these features in a simmilar way as WOW. An example of this would be LOTRO, I know there are differences, however they did attempt to copy the success in this game.
A new game to me that would be different from WOW but still successful would be an upgraded Asheron's Call. Not the AC2 style that was killed off but the original AC, upgraded graphics a few modifications to the game to bring it into the next gen and poof I think you would have an addictive MMO for everyone again.
However that is only my opinion.
Can I get another Whooooooooooooooooosh please?
This always makes me want to puke. WoW is a clone of eq1. only easier. You guys should really stop giving WoW all this credit, every mmo todate is actually a rip off of UO and eq1 and perhaps a couple others. WoW is little more than a more popular knockoff. thats right knockoff. Stop insulting the "REAL" grandfathers of the genre with this nonsense by acting like WoW is anything but a copy itself.
WHOOSH
Some people think, but don't read. Others read, but don't think. In order to actually UNDERSTAND what information is being presented to you...one must READ and THINK at the same time. It would also help to have a least an honors level high school grasp of English...so that you catch clever language use to present a falsity in a sarcastic way.
But I suppose we can't all be readers and thinkers. VIVA LE RESISTANCE!
Let's just put it in big, bold letters.... I think k9wazere is running out of Whooooooooooooshes.
THIS IS SARCASM.
If you thought it was serious, my apologies. Apparently the Hello Kitty toaster wasn't enough of a giveaway...
Evil will always win, because Good is dumb.
WHOOSH
Some people think, but don't read. Others read, but don't think. In order to actually UNDERSTAND what information is being presented to you...one must READ and THINK at the same time. It would also help to have a least an honors level high school grasp of English...so that you catch clever language use to present a falsity in a sarcastic way.
But I suppose we can't all be readers and thinkers. VIVA LE RESISTANCE!
At one point the "thinkers" thought the world was flat. go figure.
WHOOOOOOSH
Yet another person who managed to read...but not think. Did it hurt when the point flew past your head?
WHOOSH
Some people think, but don't read. Others read, but don't think. In order to actually UNDERSTAND what information is being presented to you...one must READ and THINK at the same time. It would also help to have a least an honors level high school grasp of English...so that you catch clever language use to present a falsity in a sarcastic way.
But I suppose we can't all be readers and thinkers. VIVA LE RESISTANCE!
At one point the "thinkers" thought the world was flat. go figure.
My vote was always square. I did fancy an octagon once. But that was heresy and I beat myself plenty hard to make up for it.
What??? You mean there ISN'T a hello kitty toaster RPG??
*cries*
IMHO, a toaster would serve as your gear...
There are different qualities, sizes, prices and all of that. So that would be tiered gear right there.
The toast would serve as the enemy... Use the toaster to defeat the toast = PvE
Or have a toast off against our friends! = PvP
Congrats OP, you've created another WoW clone!
- - "What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?" - -
While the satire of the OP is going over some folks heads, it is possible to make a WOW clone by designing your game with these key elements.
PVE centric game play, with questing being the primary means of gaining experience. Predefined classes with levels (as opposed to skills), faction grinding, and raiding as the main end game. Make the PVP meaningless (i.e. no player controlled areas, keeps, castles) or lacking in real rewards.
I know WOW didn't invent any of these, but going forward too many games seem to be trying to follow this model due to its past financial success. (i.e. LotRO)
Of course, there are games that don't follow the formula (past, present and future) however they are few and far between, and frequently not well received. (i.e. PotBS)
Of course, we don't have to discard everything in the model to make a new, fun game, but lets hope AOC and WAR's upcoming releases buck the trend enough to make them different.
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WHOOOOOOSH
Yet another person who managed to read...but not think. Did it hurt when the point flew past your head?
Im not sure what crowd you are trying to illicit laughs from, but I assure you, you are the only person here laughing at your wit. Sad.
P.S. I hear Dennis Miller is looking for a protege, as far as jokes that arent funny go, you are a shoe in
Its always been possible to make a fresh game using these elements. The problem isn't with the possibilities of such, its that there are just too many players now who think that anything using ANY element of standard MMO's is now a WoW clone.
Its not just stupid, its insulting....particularly to those whom actually made the games that started it. I've seen it on every board here. There is very little in WoW at all that can be considered truly unique to the genre. Outside of the actual lore....its all just refined versions of a system already in place.
I personally hope more people DO take note of things WoW has done. If nothing else, I'd like for future teams to put as much polish on their ideals as Blizzard has.
ok,ive studied the image and now id like to break down the OPs idea for an "original" game:
I applaud the idea of getting burned by the toaster,as this at least adds an element of risk versus reward.eating the toast itself may also burn your mouth,or those with sensitive teeth may not enjoy the crispy edges,so not any noob can come along and eat it.
most of those features are standard in MMORPGS, WoW didn't invent any of that stuff imo.