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The Fall of WoW? Thread Is A Joke
Drolkin
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People who had gear from AQ40/BWL/Naxx did not throw away their gear until 69-70.
Everyone with top end gear from BT/Sunwell will have that gear all the way till 80.
Rock Paper Scissors? This guy talks like WoW is a single player game or arena is 1vs1 not 2vs2.
Of course there a f**king counter class for every class, it's called a MMO for a reason, arena is 2v2 3v3 5v5 for a reason.
Yeah so you are a mage and Warlock wtfpwns you? Group with a rogue and guess what, problem solved?
You really think 9 Million people are gonna quit WoW for AoC/Warhammer?
You realize Warhammer is going to be a MUCH diffrent game? It will cater to certain people, mostly the ones who have quit WoW or don't play WoW, not the 9 million people who like it.
Warhammer PvP is much slower then WoW, so news flash for the haters, there aren't gonna be 9 million people or even 2+ million people who play WoW that are gonna be like, "WTF? SLOWER PVP!? AWSOME LETS QUIT WOW AND PLAY WARHAMMER!".
I like the pace of PvP in WoW, any slower and it would be a lame though I did prefer when it was even faster before resil.
WoW is never going to die, maybe in 10 years it will only have 5 million subscribers, but its not gonna die.
If anything people are gonna start playing free WoW servers, which are becoming insanly popular right now with an estimated half a million people playing on them at the moment.
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WoW will die in time. It won't be killed. Eventually WoW will fizzle out it just might take many years to do so.
A fact is that PvE needs many active players in order to "work". If many players become inactive (like mysefl), WoW will lose much of it's power (but, the subscribers population will remain the same).
Imo, the only WoW killer will be Bliz's next MMO. WoW will be still online, but not most popular MMO. Several good MMOs will be released (AoC, WAR, Aion... whatever) but none will be a "WoW killer". -500k subscribers is not a killing blow for a game with over 10mil people.
WoW is to MMOs what Windows is to operating systems.... hate it if you are in the know; but get used to it, cause it's going to be around for some time.
That thread is definitely a joke. The OP says several times that he is not saying or predicting the "Fall of WoW" but is merely saying it in question form. Lies.
Here's a question HAS ROGER CLEMENS USED HGH???
I type this, then I go on to list, painstakingly, how I hear all these other people say Roger did it. Then I go on to throw in a lot of my personal experience and reasons with how I saw Roger get "big" over the years. Then I list all his stats after he turned 40, then I do this/that and the other tying Roger to HGH. Its obvious I'm not stating a real question about Roger using HGH (which he did, btw). I'm merely painting a nice picture leading up to it so someone will come along and take the bait, and I'll say, "Hey, Its more of a question than a statement. i did not say Roger USED HGH". It's quite obvious its a loaded "question".
This is what Mistick did with his "Fall of WoW" post. By claiming he "still plays WoW" as a disclaimer, he thinks its not obvious he is really praying for some other game to fill his needs, but have not found one yet. I doubt he really "plays" it anymore. More than likely, hes still subbed to it so what the heck, might as well go online. All or most of his friends left, so now he can't find new ones. So he takes that to mean WoW is in trouble.
Its these burned-out type of guys, hanging around playing WoW after either trying to complete all their Epic gear and failing, or getting it and having nothing else for them to do that give WoW a bad name most of the time. They hang on like disgruntled employees trying to poison all the new hires by saying "Hey man, I did it all.. This game is in trouble. Just wait, youll see. All my friends say so and they quit already." Again, these people who have "done it all" or most of it think with every new expansion, its just not fair they have to redo new content because now they are wearing last year's clothing line.This after some of them have already played the game for several YEARS already.
Wait, you played a game for several years and NOW youre bored? Umm.. Duh. What did you think was going to happen? It happens in ALL mmos. Its called Burnout. Youve burned out. Move on. If nothing is out that catches your eye (which I feel is Mistick's real problem) then live with it. The game industry's main goal is not to have new content ready just when YOU personally are done/bored with what's out.
"TO MICHAEL!"
I have been doing MMOs for many years and have follow the trends, and have even told some companies (not saying who) I wouldn't do that if I was you only to watch them fall by their own ignorance. I simply point out the obivous what others complain about, pose the question, and how it relates to the market. Are these games still running? Of course! Did these companies lose subcribtions? You bet they did! Want to read more go to my thread enough said.
Your thread is retarded as the previous guys, there is no way of knowing when will wow "fall", but i doubt it will be around in 10 years, especially not with 5 million players.
Ahhh the fanboys....
I tend to agree with the essence of what the OP has to say in this thread.
And I tend to agree with what they said about WoW being around in 10 years still. It may be a totally new re-vamped WoW by then, but the Warcraft franchise is too insanely popular to not have a MMO around in some version or other. And really, 5 million subscribers isn't too hard to believe to still be hanging around. In 10 years I'm sure that there will be many, many more MMO subscribers in general so WoW having that many would not be that hard of a stretch for the imagination.
Unless of course there is a World of Starcraft by then, then maybe WoW's subscriber base could be cut into by a hefty chunk.
Can you even speculate what kind of technology there will be in 10 years? Virtual reality? Holographic gaming?
What I am most sure there will be no WoW, mybe WoW2 or WoW3, or World of Starcraft. Hell Blizzard might even bankrupt in 10 years, or a comet might hit the earth!
Now do you see how this kind of DOOM! and anti DOOM threads are meaningless?
Is WoW not supposed to hit consoles (360 , PS3) at some point? Perhaps i have mis-remembered this information.....
Can you even speculate what kind of technology there will be in 10 years? Virtual reality? Holographic gaming?
What I am most sure there will be no WoW, mybe WoW2 or WoW3, or World of Starcraft. Hell Blizzard might even bankrupt in 10 years, or a comet might hit the earth!
Now do you see how this kind of DOOM! and anti DOOM threads are meaningless?
It depends whether the reader is interested in what the thread has to say as to whether the thread is meaningless or not. I think the Warcraft franchise is at least 10 years old if I am not mistaken. And whether WoW turns into a WoW2 or WoW3...wouldn't it still be WoW, no?
And by the way, I still do enjoy playing Tetris.
Can you even speculate what kind of technology there will be in 10 years? Virtual reality? Holographic gaming?
What I am most sure there will be no WoW, mybe WoW2 or WoW3, or World of Starcraft. Hell Blizzard might even bankrupt in 10 years, or a comet might hit the earth!
Now do you see how this kind of DOOM! and anti DOOM threads are meaningless?
Blizzard won't go bankrupt unless huge changes happens eg. all of blizzard members are assasinated.... Blizzard has kept their spirit of gameplay in over 10 years now (ever since Warcraft 1), Blizzard ain't like microsoft, EA, SoE, they actually don't mass produce alot of games where only a tenth of them are worth a penny, while the rest should have been trashed before launch.
Blizzard haven't made many games but the few they made and released were Golden and sold out like no other game in their respectable genre.
And giving out the "fanboy" tag to someone just because they do not agree to your views are nothing but retarded.
WoW won't stop being around, D2 servers are still running and WC3 also still lingers ect with it's own certain degree of mod called Dota, which i only played few times when it came out but is still up and running and played alot.
with the amount of subs WoW has Blizzard are set for many years to come and the pure fact they have one of the biggest budgets ever on their next gen mmo just shows they aren't going anywhere but up... they had a close call before wow was released since it costed alot in the making and with the delays it had but when it came out it blew everything away and less than a year later it had paid all the costs back and now simply funding blizzard means for all their projects, which is a great thing. Also ever since the high income WoW brings i believe VU no more tries to rush blizzard in any games at all, they are happy with what blizzard has made now and hopefully won't force blizzard to launch a game a little ahead ever again.
And only idiots up in the top would try to change blizzard i mean if you already had a revenue of over 1 billion why the hell would you try risk making it less, when those 1 billion revenue were completely unsexpected in the first place? Hell they would have been pleased with 100 million revenue (with big smiles) but they got 1 billion instead, no one are that stupid, blizzard are also experts in marketing, so they won't flop this one up, they care too much for their reputation.
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
I think "killer" is a tough label to put on any new game, the truth is UO is still around. EQ didn't kill it. SWG didn't kill EQ... and so on. Each take customers, and in many cases creates new ones.
WoW has brought a lot of people into the market, will they move on when a new game comes out? Some surely will. Some will surely stay.
Everyone said LOTRO was a WoW killer. Go figure.
The guy is STILL posting bullshit as "reasons" and "facts" to support his non-truthful thread.
He goes back to his "Fall of Wow" crap and then goes to list two MMOs which by his words "Need no introduction" and "need he say more" as part of his crazy logic.
Well he lists Star Trek Online and Marvel Universe. LMAO! Does he even know these are cancelled? Then he later says he wouldnt pull the plug just yet on them. Well, sorry but it looks like the people who really KNOW what is going on already PULLED the plug. Claiming that Marvel will be huge when they barely got done with that Call of Heroes beef about rights... I swear, for you people entertain gloom and doom soothseers like Mistick, its just amazing. For someone who claims to "been doing MMOs for years and following the trends", you sure don't know squat about the most recent developments, Nostradamus.
And after all his "knowledge" he says he "even told some companies (not saying who) I wouldn't do that if I was you only to watch them fall by their own ignorance." Well, based on his additional "proof" and "sound reasoning" to which MMOs will bite into WoW's ass, its obvious those companies he "advised" weren't the only ones full of ignorance. How you list two failed vaporware MMOs as supporting evidence of WoW's shrinking market is crazy. And to say "someday they will lose subs".. man, how far down the line are you talking? 1 year? 2 years? 5 years? Do us all a favor and give a REAL timeframe. Probably gonna wait until 10 years from now and say "See? I TOLD you WoW would lose subs back in 2008! I was right!"
Again, when Wow does finally lose base, it won't be because of people who merely WISH it like you have been doing. Itll take a really smart, intelligent, almost bug free game that will appeal to EVERYONE. Not those small niche, fan based TV shows you keep spouting as up and comers. Because contrary to your belief, everyone who watches a popular TV show does not feel the need to turn that into a love for MMO gaming.
"TO MICHAEL!"
Was the original OP's thread deleted, because what's there now looks more like a reply to me.
I wish this site would go back to where they used to leave placeholders whenever they deleted a thread. They changed that a few months ago though I'm not sure why.
Oh well, like has been said so many times before, WOW won't be dying anytime soon.
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I actually disagree here. The game will bore you after a year or 2 of play then you get the itch to come back like I just did and I am having so much fun. It will be like this for all of the WOW players.
This game is to popular to die. Heck Warcraft games are still being played and loved. I can not ever see this game dieing in the next 5yrs. Maybe 20years if it ever happened lol
What I find funny is how everyone says that WoW had been declining, when in reality it had not.
Is the best you can say "WoW will die." ? That's not different than me saying, "One day, you'll die, I don't know when or how, but you will."
Can you even speculate what kind of technology there will be in 10 years? Virtual reality? Holographic gaming?
What I am most sure there will be no WoW, mybe WoW2 or WoW3, or World of Starcraft. Hell Blizzard might even bankrupt in 10 years, or a comet might hit the earth!
Now do you see how this kind of DOOM! and anti DOOM threads are meaningless?
Actually... ten years ago Half-Life was a pretty popular game..
When Hillary Clinton gets bored bubble-hearthing with her paladin and she loses her guild leader position after years of yelling and /gkicking her minions, she will allow WoW to die. Until then she will not permit her only form of entertainment to end. She will order her manservants to kill anyone who attempts to let the game die.
- Phos
I highly doubt WoW will die anytime soon, not unless they do a SWG-Like change. The personal reasons I like wow is it's simplicity (I also play Eve online, WoW is a bit of a cooldown for me) and the population. Going into an area and seeing hundreds of people definatly makes it more of a MMO feel. Bear in mind aswell the main reason why WoW is soo popular is the overall quality of the game (it's not riddled with bugs, insane lag etc) where the main issues is just class balance (which is the same problem with every other MMO out there) and changes people just whine about (PVP gear, attunments, gold, endgame raids).
Blizzard are also VERY good in the advertisment department. I got RL friends who haven't even heard of a MMO until WoW and I see adverts on the TV for it on a regular bases (I live in the UK). I Haven't seen any other MMO with such a strong advertisment campaign.
Also, people say that gear resets will kill the game, when infact I think it will keep it alive. WotLK comes out, EVERYONE pretty much starts on a clean slate at lvl 80, including those who are new and were too far behind (gear wise) to get into end game legacy/BC.