AoC = WoW clone

airstrike

 Ive being seeing that kind of comment alot on the forums,aparently the ones who are saying that are either WoW kiddies or WAR fanboys and they arent even in any beta.Soo im wandering why people have to go out of their way to give their oppinion on something they havent even seen/tryed/heard of.

P.S AoC is the only fantasy MMOG that actualy kept me playing and did not cause intense boredom after 2 hours of playing.

glord

I'm glad to hear that many people find AoC something new and interesting.

ProfRed

Trolls will be trolls..  If the game launches and they like it they will go troll other boards, and when they get bored of it they will troll this one again and all others until they find the game they want to support.  If they don't support any game then the trolling will be rampant.  Just look at Alan0n's posts...  They consist of 'Troll', 'Troll', 'More Troll', 'Troll harder', and then suddenly he provides videos and a positive outlook on AoC when the PVP weekend rolls around and isn't a huge flop..

I'm interested to see how many people come here and respond without reading your post, but just the topic header. 

judgebeo

Originally posted by airstrike


 Ive being seeing that kind of comment alot on the forums

Dont care about that, seriously, there are lot of trolls, angry kids with lot of time in their life... all of them didnt get into the game... is just "trash talk"... seriously, dont care about trolls and fanbois...

DeaconX

Originally posted by judgebeo


 
Originally posted by airstrike


 Ive being seeing that kind of comment alot on the forums

 

Dont care about that, seriously, there are lot of trolls, angry kids with lot of time in their life... all of them didnt get into the game... is just "trash talk"... seriously, dont care about trolls and fanbois...

Aye, just come to your own conclusions.  Damn some people are lame...

Vidir

There is no such thing as a WOW clone since that game did copy all it stuff from allredy existing games.

mrw0lf

Are those posts just trolls though? I have my tin hat securely fitted and after looking through several boards for other peoples opinion on the weekend I can't help but feel that there were a number of corporate threads being started. Still I guess there are an equal number of funcom's so it probably evens itself out.

Housam

every game has a troll....it sucks

Alden120

I'd be a liar to tell you this game feels like anything otherwise. If you're hoping for a new take on MMO's then Conan isn't going to bring you that feeling. All Conan does it take the WoW formula, and add some Dreamfall NPC sequences, and a slugish combat system that revolves around 3 number keys on your hotbar, and way too many shaders, i cant believe that this game was eating 1.4 gigs of ram. If all of these great features don't hook you then of course there are high polygon breasts to seal the deal.

moving along!

Mordria

Conan a WoW clone... ??

Lets see, Conan was written in 1932.

WoW was regurgitated in..... 

Thillian

Originally posted by airstrike


WoW kiddies

what a tinny sort of word

Ascension08

If we wanted something to NOT be called a WoW clone, we'd have a non-UI non-leveling PvP massacre with a combat system like AoC's.

Alden120

Originally posted by Ascension08


If we wanted something to NOT be called a WoW clone, we'd have a non-UI non-leveling PvP massacre with a combat system like AoC's.

You can deny it all you want, but its not going to change anything that way. If people are so content with playing the same games over and over, then developers are just going to make them that way. Conan doesn't innovate on any level. I've played this thing for hours trying to find some grain of good. The combat is so lame, the weapon doesn't even collide with the enemy sometimes, and it still hits him. The only thing i find myself liking at all is the inventory screen with the 3d items.

Ascension08

Originally posted by Alden120


 
Originally posted by Ascension08


If we wanted something to NOT be called a WoW clone, we'd have a non-UI non-leveling PvP massacre with a combat system like AoC's.

 

You can deny it all you want, but its not going to change anything that way. If people are so content with playing the same games over and over, then developers are just going to make them that way. Conan doesn't innovate on any level. I've played this thing for hours trying to find some grain of good. The combat is so lame, the weapon doesn't even collide with the enemy sometimes, and it still hits him. The only thing i find myself liking at all is the inventory screen with the 3d items.

The only innovative thing I think is the active defense. /shrug

And mounted combat, but that's later on.

ChicagoCub

I certainly hope AoC becomes a WoW clone.  There are certainly a lot of aspects to WoW that made it arguably the most successful MMO of all time that AoC would do well to replicate.  If they can do this while still giving the player the feeling of being immersed in the world of Conan then I think they have a real shot.  Games fail because they listen to the WoW haters and try to be the anti-WoW.   As an example LOTRO is similar to WoW and doing well (had they made two independent, playable factions, such as in WoW, they would have enjoyed greater success).  Another example is EQII, a game that was well on the path to failure but turned it around by moving closer to the WoW recipe.  Yes both games are frequently accused of being WoW clones but both games are successful and manage to keep their own identities.

There are people out there that hate WoW, LOTRO, and EQII.  While they are certainly entitled to their opinion and have every right to use it to try and influence developers into making a game more to their liking...from a business standpoint actually listening to them would be a mistake...that's how niche games get made, by listening to a highly vocal minority and getting romanced by the idea of making a WOW-killer.

Ascension08

Originally posted by ChicagoCub


I certainly hope AoC becomes a WoW clone.  There are certainly a lot of aspects to WoW that made it arguably the most successful MMO of all time that AoC would do well to replicate.  If they can do this while still giving the player the feeling of being immersed in the world of Conan then I think they have a real shot.  Games fail because they listen to the WoW haters and try to be the anti-WoW.   As an example LOTRO is similar to WoW and doing well (had they made two independent, playable factions, such as in WoW, they would have enjoyed greater success).  Another example is EQII, a game that was well on the path to failure but turned it around by moving closer to the WoW recipe.  Yes both games are frequently accused of being WoW clones but both games are successful and manage to keep their own identities.
There are people out there that hate WoW, LOTRO, and EQII.  While they are certainly entitled to their opinion and have every right to use it to try and influence developers into making a game more to their liking...from a business standpoint actually listening to them would be a mistake...that's how niche games get made, by listening to a highly vocal minority and getting romanced by the idea of making a WOW-killer.

Valid point, it's just people are so tired of things going one way in as open a market as MMOs...I mean, how many devs are out there, each with imaginations, ideas...most of them rarely have the funding to make them true. I see these people having "fun" for the first time, but you're just doing PvP. What about EIGHTY levels of PvE? This is just so new, people are flocking to it, and it may be fun for a few weeks or a month or two, but say 6 months or a year from now I think this won't have more than 200k consistent subs. Which is absolutely fine.

But if people start seeing AoC as a WoW clone, they might quit. It's because they DON'T see it as a WoW clone, that's why some are about to pass out from excitement.

airstrike

  Just goes to show the overall perception of people these days,they think AoC is a WoW clone (I dont see the resemblence anywhere) and I am shocked that others think AoC should copy WoW.WoW is the worst mmog ever,soo dumbed down even a trained monkey can play it.Well dumb people always like simple stuff where someone holds their hand and rewards them for breathing.

Alden120

you don't see the similarities because you don't want to, but they are there, all over the place. Maybe the whole notion of gameplay has become an afterthought, and the real excitement lies in the grind, and repetitive mashing of numerical keys. You can argue all you want, but it doesn't change the gameplay mechanics. Mounted combat will be identical to unmounted combat, the only difference is your runspeed * (2) YES! Don't worry though you'll still have those great real time combat mechanics, ready to perform collision calculations while your meters away from the mob, LOL. I'm only writing here to warn those smart enough to listen, and for those who don't listen, well enjoy your time playing MMO generic formula # 10. Funcom really messed up here, and did not deliver what was promised.

 

Iijs

Originally posted by Alden120


you don't see the similarities because you don't want to, but they are there, all over the place. Maybe the whole notion of gameplay has become an afterthought, and the real excitement lies in the grind, and repetitive mashing of numerical keys. You can argue all you want, but it doesn't change the gameplay mechanics. Mounted combat will be identical to unmounted combat, the only difference is your runspeed * (2) YES! Don't worry though you'll still have those great real time combat mechanics, ready to perform collision calculations while your meters away from the mob, LOL. I'm only writing here to warn those smart enough to listen, and for those who don't listen, well enjoy your time playing MMO generic formula # 10. Funcom really messed up here, and did not deliver what was promised.
 

Don't worry Alden, someone will make your game. Some day. Like some day 10 years down the road. But hey, you have fun waiting, eh?

AoC will not appeal to everyone. Too hardcore for some, not hardcore enough for others. Doesn't matter. If you like the game, you'll play it.

Drop by in 6-12 months to find out how many hundreds of thousands are still playing, and ask them if they're having fun. Of course, some people will never try it and will continue to wait for their 'perfect' game that appeals to EVERYONE. and they will still be waiting... and waiting... and waiting.... and waiting.....

Electriceye

Originally posted by Alden120


you don't see the similarities because you don't want to, but they are there, all over the place. Maybe the whole notion of gameplay has become an afterthought, and the real excitement lies in the grind, and repetitive mashing of numerical keys. You can argue all you want, but it doesn't change the gameplay mechanics. Mounted combat will be identical to unmounted combat, the only difference is your runspeed * (2) YES! Don't worry though you'll still have those great real time combat mechanics, ready to perform collision calculations while your meters away from the mob, LOL. I'm only writing here to warn those smart enough to listen, and for those who don't listen, well enjoy your time playing MMO generic formula # 10. Funcom really messed up here, and did not deliver what was promised.
 

No, ur only writing here to troll, cause obviously ur bitter that AoC is looking good 1month from release, and the game ur waiting on (Darkfall) is nowhere near release (Vaporware).

There are similarities with alot of games, including WoW, though there are as well new ideas, and things that have failed with other games that might just work in AoC. Alot of things we dont know yet, but what we DO know is that combat is fun and gameplay is cool and is what most of people were expecting. It is very easy to bash a game by saying its button mashing and the like, though it's a stupid statement, and i dont feel like going over the whole real time combat system.

 

brostyn

People also called the Vanguard haters trolls. People try and claim LOTRO is not an exact replica of WoW. I think I know which sides had it right. Thanks for playing, though.

greymann

Originally posted by Mordria


Conan a WoW clone... ??
Lets see, Conan was written in 1932.
WoW was regurgitated in..... 

Oh here we go with this stupid crap.  We're talking about VIDEO GAMES, VIDEO GAMES, VIDEO GAMES!  Not books.  This isn't a fantasy book forum.  Get it?

dethgar

Is there a global cooldown for launching attacks/abilities or can you fire them off in real time? No global cooldown would be something like DDO, but DDO doesn't have a lot of abilities to chain. WoW's combat is boring because you literally have to wait 1.7 seconds to make your next move after most attacks/casts. So basically auto-attack + gcd + no collision = WoW. So, then what equal's AoC?

ASmith84

every mmo is going to feel the same just because its an mmo. conan approaches it differently with its new combat and being rated m. there are other things to like the town building but you can just read about it on the main website. people who say its a wow clone have been playing warcraft too much.

glord

If you speak of the storyline, Conan kills WoW's lore.

If you speak of gameplay mechanics, Conan, (from what I understand)is new and refreshing. WoW on the otherhand...

That was a reply to Greymann by the way.

Enforcer71

Originally posted by airstrike


  Just goes to show the overall perception of people these days,they think AoC is a WoW clone (I dont see the resemblence anywhere) and I am shocked that others think AoC should copy WoW.WoW is the worst mmog ever,soo dumbed down even a trained monkey can play it.Well dumb people always like simple stuff where someone holds their hand and rewards them for breathing.

Wow you really have some serious issues, as many people that play wow you must feel like your one of the few smart ones in the world.

I must be stupid because I thought the whole point to playing a GAME was to have FUN and if your having fun then it shouldnt matter what game it is.