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PVP-RP ? What the ' Funcom ?

LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,980

I mean seriously.

How will it work.

What will be enforced there ? And how ?

How will RP - PVP server be any different than PVP server ?

 

Will you force gankers to gank in character .

To type "Ye die by my blade , arrr!" instead "LoLZ Pwnzorz n00b" ?

 

It wont work Funcom. Just wont

Give us PVE-RP server , like god intended it to be !

 



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  • GishgeronGishgeron Member Posts: 1,287

      While I'd never use one....

     

      The PvPRP servers on WoW got PLENTY of traffic.  Technically, for certain universes...removing the 'open warfare' also removes any form of believable RP.  I mean...how can one truly role play in the conan universe when all forms of personal combat must be agreed to like some french duel?

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  • SaydienSaydien Member Posts: 266

    I totally agree. I understand people that want to be able to attack somebody whenever it feels apropriate in the situation but another thing that worries me: Ok so I was cheeky talking to the wrong guy and he decides to attack and kill me...now what? Is my character dead? Do I have to reroll (either IC or create a totally new character)?

    I used to play in SWG where it of course happened now and then that characters were killed but that was in consent. I would be really annoyed if there were some of those 'my character is the strongest, best-looking, smartest oh and by the way invincible'-people that decide to kill everyone that won't accept their poweremoting and afterswards tell you OOC that he will ignore your character IC from now on because he killed you.

    In my eyes it's not only the being afraid that non-RP could chainkill RP or disturb their RP by attacks all the time but also the problems that could occur  when people with different opinions on how strict and realistic RP should be when it comes to character deaths.

  • JsteinerJsteiner Member Posts: 217
    I often PVP-RP. Yes, it is a verb. In VG I played a Necro bent on collecting elven souls; I even met a few people who joined my cause. In-game genocide. It was great. But I took the RP seriously. It really means more when you construct a story and act it out through your RP rather than just kill stuff.

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  • JsteinerJsteiner Member Posts: 217
    And to the poster above me: Yea I actually ran into the same problem myself. I just assumed that they lived in a world where you could never really die, but on the bright side you can punish infidels through pain, suffering, and momentary disembodiment as much as you want.

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  • AmazingAveryAmazingAvery Age of Conan AdvocateMember UncommonPosts: 7,188

    The Hyborian Accord and the program similar to the Ark program in AO, plus FC customer service :)



  • CaldicotCaldicot Member UncommonPosts: 455

    I will make it my number 1 priority to find you in game and behead you Lobo.

    This is Conan, not some regular carebear MMO

     

    "Die by my blade!"

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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    I believe that those that participate in the 1-13 open beta will understand what method FC used to facilitate the resurrection of the player characters in the game.

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  • eugameugam Member UncommonPosts: 984

    Originally posted by Lobotomist


    I mean seriously.
    How will it work.
    What will be enforced there ? And how ?
    How will RP - PVP server be any different than PVP server ?
     
    Will you force gankers to gank in character .
    To type "Ye die by my blade , arrr!" instead "LoLZ Pwnzorz n00b" ?
     
    It wont work Funcom. Just wont
    Give us PVE-RP server , like god intended it to be !
     
    True MMO is based on freedom.Freedom to PK or hunt PKs or just do nothing. PvP-RP is thre ruleset to go.

     

    But i agree Lobo. It wont work ;)  But thats not Funcoms problem. Actually you have the posibility to enforce the ruleset on your own on a PvP-RP server. Lets hope its possible to lynch under that roleset. It would fit very well into the lore :D

     

    However, you can roleplay on any server. Its not bound to a ruleset. It only works in a roleplay guild or a serverwide roleplay chat channel anyways.

  • DremacDremac Member Posts: 187

    Yeah nobody who likes PvP can RP at all. Also I heard there aren't any elves in this game. What's up with that?

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,980

    Originally posted by Caldicot


    I will make it my number 1 priority to find you in game and behead you Lobo.
    This is Conan, not some regular carebear MMO
     
    "Die by my blade!"

    And what ? You will roleplay that you hate me because you read my post on the Cimmerian stone plate forums ??

     

    Just what i am talking about.

     

    PVPers can not roleplay - fact is fact.

     

    PVP-RP server = Gankers heaven

     

    Gankers find PVP servers to hard. Because on PVP servers everyone is dedicated PVPer.

    And to GANK you need seriously underpowered low level players ->read Roleplayers.

    Thus PVP-RP server is perfect ground for Gankers !



  • fiontarfiontar Member UncommonPosts: 3,682

    I agree to an extent. If there is only going to be one form of RP server, it should be RP-PvE. There may be a place for RP-PvP, but that would be a more specialized choice that would depend on demand and game population.

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  • XasapisXasapis Member RarePosts: 6,337

    You're assuming that good PvPers and RPers is self exclusive?

    If anything else, survival in a FFA PvP server is a social activity, and by definition RPers are social.

  • DremacDremac Member Posts: 187

     

    Originally posted by Lobotomist


     
    PVPers can not roleplay - fact is fact.



    Just because most gamers consider "roleplaying" to be a bunch of guys playing girls running around at level 1 naked talking about flowers and crap for "roleplay reasons" doesn't mean that's what roleplaying really is ya goofball.

     

    If AoC will deter players who think they are roleplayers because their fairy-princess elf paid money for a dress instead of a sword all I can say is good @#$#ing riddance.

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,980

    Bah ... even your posts prove you have no first idea about roleplay. And if you will also join RP-PVP server.

    Just proves my point ....



  • saniceksanicek Member UncommonPosts: 368

    Originally posted by Caldicot


    I will make it my number 1 priority to find you in game and behead you Lobo.
    This is Conan, not some regular carebear MMO
     
    "Die by my blade!"

    What he said. Also prefferably on a melee class while running all around you while poking you, Lobotomist, we know you like that very much.

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  • TeiraaTeiraa Member UncommonPosts: 447

    Will this PVP-RP server have FFA PVP, or RVR PVP?

    Because there could be quite some RP interaction within a certain faction on a RVR server.

    But yes, non-consensual PVP makes any conflict RP done by words (and not swords) quite impossible.

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431

    Funny how people will make fun of RP'rs or people that dress up for that kinda thing, but then yesterday I saw a bunch of japanese girls dressed up like Final Fantasy 7 characters in some pictures here on mmorpg.com , and they had far more bumps than buries...

  • DremacDremac Member Posts: 187

    Nope. Just impossible unless you have two civilized people opposing each other. How often do you think that happened in the Age of Conan? Exactly.

    My main character will gladly exchange verbal jabs with a foe but he or she (I haven't decided yet) will be just as happy to go at it fighting. I won't expect anyone to engage in a war of words with me, it will just be icing on the cake if they do.

  • korvasskorvass Member Posts: 616

    As much as I enjoy posts from people like Avery for the information and clarity, I have to side with Lobotomist on this one. RP-PvP for the most part won't work. Sure enough, RPers seek out like-minded folk and they will do alright, but for general Joe-RP'er, it's not gonna work.

    RP, to an extent, is the simulation of an alternative life/world. The immersion in a world foreign and yet similar to the one we live in. In real life we don't walk around attacking people without reason. We don't know the person probably, don't know their strengths. Are they armed? Isn't it better to live peacefully and coexist with others? Some people do go around randomly attacking others, but society generally deems these people as needing incarceration or mental therapy.

    This is why RP-PvP doesn't really work on a server-wide scale. In an MMO we can all see the relative strength of another player and make assumptions. I would go so far as to say that most PvP is simply one person attacking another simply because they can. Roleplay barely comes in to it.

    How is one Cimmerian attacking another Cimmerian in the wilds roleplaying, and not simply one player attacking another because they can? Roleplay should be about immersion (to me at least), and random back-stabs in the wilderness are not immersive. Not even in the Conan world. Conan didn't just walk about aimlessly PK'ing noobs for the shits and giggles. There was always an aim to his conflict. And besides battlegrounds, bar brawls and RvR, the majority of PvP is aimless.

  • AxxissAxxiss Member Posts: 21

     

    Heed thy words well Lobotomist, for ye shall succumb to my will and bend knee to ME!, thy true Master!

    And if thy dost do as thine says, then, ye shall lose thy head and Your True Master ( I ) shall decapitate thine useless head and place it upon a cut down tree branch and make a staff of some import for a caster to use for his or her own reasons. At a profit for my own well-being.

    In any event Lobotomist... seek me out at your earliest convenience and I may decide to allow you to live. But you WILL bend thy knee and swear allegience to me as your MASTER or Die!

    Be afraid not of Death... as this may suit you more for your delerious ramblings of discontent within thy simple mind!

    Axxiss

  • LobotomistLobotomist Member EpicPosts: 5,980

     

    Originally posted by Axxiss


     
    Heed thy words well Lobotomist, for ye shall succumb to my will and bend knee to ME!, thy true Master!
    And if thy dost do as thine says, then, ye shall lose thy head and Your True Master ( I ) shall decapitate thine useless head and place it upon a cut down tree branch and make a staff of some import for a caster to use for his or her own reasons. At a profit for my own well-being.
    In any event Lobotomist... seek me out at your earliest convenience and I may decide to allow you to live. But you WILL bend thy knee and swear allegience to me as your MASTER or Die!
    Be afraid not of Death... as this may suit you more for your delerious ramblings of discontent within thy simple mind!
    Axxiss

     

    I do not care much for dogs yapping.

    When i see you. My blade will do the talk. And the only sound you make will be the wind escaping from your sliced neck. I will not even give you privilege to scream.

    This is how we barbarians deal with cowardly dogs.

     

    P.S.

    Bit of forum roleplaying - dont get it serious



  • AxxissAxxiss Member Posts: 21

     

    hahaha nah man, as you said... a bit of forum rp. U know tho, you still have the pve rp, but with the added vp thrown in.. so you can swing both ways ehehe

    Me.. i personally dont see the point in pve.. i mean... the environment npc and mobs are unable to react in the dsame way as a pc can/will...

    Anyways... hope ya have fun if you get into AoC

    Axxiss

  • EzhaeEzhae Member UncommonPosts: 735

    The thing is RP-PVP will or will not work pretty much depend son Funcom's GMs. If they actually will enforce the ruleset, take care to warn the ooc'ers and force name changes, eventually banning/transfering people away it will work.

    I played on RP-PvP servers in WoW. Yest. It was hell with all the OOC gankers that just rolled for 'lol ez-mode killz lololol' but doesnt change the fact that also it offered way more of fun. Why one cant be both dedicated RPer and PvPer according to You ? How does enjoying RPing makes me retarded in PvP same time, uh?

    Ofcourse one could always try to find RP on PvP dedicated servers without specific RP ruleset but its much more effort to find people there that wont be named "Imconnan" "Pwnerz" "Ieatu" etc. that feel a need to add "lol", ":)))))" and use broken interwebs english like "hi m8 cn u hlap me wit a qeust?!?". Majority of players who decide to roll on PvP-RP servers are ones that do understand the ruleset and even if they dont actively roleplay they understabd the rules and usually avoid acting like jerks.

    Dont like it. Roll on non-Rp. Why you bother yourself with it ?

  • IllyrianIllyrian Member Posts: 300

    RP mixed with PvP? Talk about the white crow.

     

    Last thing I checked the devs stated is they will adopt "hands off" approach of in game regulating.

     

    Without heavy handed conduct it will not work and even then it is iffy.

     

    It looks good as advertisement though - two types of PvP servers althoguh I suspect that initial difference will vanish quickly. Anyone remembers WoW RP-PvP servers?

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