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  • safwdsafwd Member Posts: 879

    Originally posted by salvaje


    Fact:  Several DoS attacks were made against my website today.  It was done by someone who also informed me that he was the responsible party who is a member of these forums.  Ball's in MMORPG's court as to what to be done about it.
    I personally am not going to take it any further than that unless it happens again.
    Everything else is speculation and rumor.
     
    SOE has MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars. Do you not think that if they really wanted to shut down your site they could pay a hacker big bucks to hose your site up beyond repair?

    You are dealing with a clown, but most likely not a corperate clown.

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    Originally posted by safwd


     
    Originally posted by salvaje


    Fact:  Several DoS attacks were made against my website today.  It was done by someone who also informed me that he was the responsible party who is a member of these forums.  Ball's in MMORPG's court as to what to be done about it.
    I personally am not going to take it any further than that unless it happens again.
    Everything else is speculation and rumor.
     
    SOE has MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of dollars. Do you not think that if they really wanted to shut down your site they could pay a hacker big bucks to hose your site up beyond repair?

     

    You are dealing with a clown, but most likely not a corperate clown.

     

    That is my opinion as well.  Certainly this does not reflect well on the fanbois.

     

     

  • MathosMathos Member Posts: 897
    Originally posted by safwd


     
    Originally posted by Mathos

    Originally posted by safwd

    Originally posted by Mathos


     
    Originally posted by safwd


    I work for SOE also.
    YA, and i also work for the French.

    The French really want the SWG Refuge board shut down!!!!!!
    Get a grip, the guy does not work for SOE. SOE does not care that you have this board. SOE stopped caring about you a couple years ago.
    The bad publicity that you generate for a dying game is not really going to concern them that much.
    But go for it, you pay for your internet connection so do with it as you want.
     
    Cyber Terrorism. You make me laugh. That fact that some people on this board actually believe what comes out of their mouths amuses me greatly.
    That fact that some people on this board actually believe what comes out of their mouths amuses me greatly.  

     

    Back at ya bucko

    Touche Sir, Touche!!



    troll much lol


    Only here.

     

    Actually i dont see myself as a troll. But as a voice of reason within a massive chorus of madness.



    Point taken i withdraw the troll comment

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    LOL.  Meh, you could also blame lack of food in Africa, Cancer, AIDS and much more on Sony with such "strong proofs"!  RaR!

     

    See, Sony can be bad, very bad (me still angry with other thingy).  But come on.  See, in psychology, some peoples when they are falsely accused, they figure they might as well just do the crime you accused them of!

     

    If Sony decides to spam your stuff, it would be hell!  On this topic, if anything, it is my profound belief that Sony may even be helping/improving the web in a way or another which just explaining or conceiving would be off the scale.  Spamless internet = more peoples moving around = more profits as they consider more options/passtimes.

    - "If I understand you well, you are telling me until next time. " - Ren

  • ThunderousThunderous Member Posts: 1,152

    LMAO, Fox News replied!  That's hilarious!  Even if it is total BS, which it probably is, it make me laugh out loud!

    Tecmo Bowl.

  • GishgeronGishgeron Member Posts: 1,287

      LOL!

     

      This whole thread has been the best read ever!

      Sucks to hear about a DDOS attack though.  I did enjoy the parts where the Sam said he was sorry.  And where Fox contacted you.

      All told, I was laughing and crying.  Better than a good movie, in my humble opinion.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 43,975

    Originally posted by salvaje


    Fact:  Several DoS attacks were made against my website today.  It was done by someone who also informed me that he was the responsible party who is a member of these forums.  Ball's in MMORPG's court as to what to be done about it.
    I personally am not going to take it any further than that unless it happens again.
    Everything else is speculation and rumor.
     

    I still haven't figured out what you are looking for.  So what if the person who attacked your  website is also a member of these forums?  Its not MMORPG's responsibility to police their members for criminal activity.

    Go find yourself a police agency that cares.

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  • p920037p920037 Member Posts: 24
    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by salvaje


    Fact:  Several DoS attacks were made against my website today.  It was done by someone who also informed me that he was the responsible party who is a member of these forums.  Ball's in MMORPG's court as to what to be done about it.
    I personally am not going to take it any further than that unless it happens again.
    Everything else is speculation and rumor.
     

     

    I still haven't figured out what you are looking for.  So what if the person who attacked your  website is also a member of these forums?  Its not MMORPG's responsibility to police their members for criminal activity.

    Go find yourself a police agency that cares.

    Come on the guy who did the DoS attack has admitted to getting vet's accounts banned here at mmorpg.com. They should know who they are getting reports from.

  • ThunderousThunderous Member Posts: 1,152

    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by salvaje


    Fact:  Several DoS attacks were made against my website today.  It was done by someone who also informed me that he was the responsible party who is a member of these forums.  Ball's in MMORPG's court as to what to be done about it.
    I personally am not going to take it any further than that unless it happens again.
    Everything else is speculation and rumor.
     

     

    I still haven't figured out what you are looking for.  So what if the person who attacked your  website is also a member of these forums?  Its not MMORPG's responsibility to police their members for criminal activity.

    Go find yourself a police agency that cares.

    Sounds like you might be guilty...

    Tecmo Bowl.

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    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by salvaje


    Fact:  Several DoS attacks were made against my website today.  It was done by someone who also informed me that he was the responsible party who is a member of these forums.  Ball's in MMORPG's court as to what to be done about it.
    I personally am not going to take it any further than that unless it happens again.
    Everything else is speculation and rumor.
     

     

    I still haven't figured out what you are looking for.  So what if the person who attacked your  website is also a member of these forums?  Its not MMORPG's responsibility to police their members for criminal activity.

    Go find yourself a police agency that cares.

     

    For one thing, I think MMORPG should care that a member of this site received threats via their PM system, DoS attack aside. 

    I'm frankly shocked they haven't done anything at all yet.  All the evidence is in their forum database.

    They probably will ban me :)

    As I've said, I'm not interested in any recriminations for today, if it never happens again, beyond MMORPG management stopping the person responsible from continuing to be able to send threats to me via this site.

     

  • p920037p920037 Member Posts: 24
    Originally posted by salvaje


     
    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by salvaje


    Fact:  Several DoS attacks were made against my website today.  It was done by someone who also informed me that he was the responsible party who is a member of these forums.  Ball's in MMORPG's court as to what to be done about it.
    I personally am not going to take it any further than that unless it happens again.
    Everything else is speculation and rumor.
     

     

    I still haven't figured out what you are looking for.  So what if the person who attacked your  website is also a member of these forums?  Its not MMORPG's responsibility to police their members for criminal activity.

    Go find yourself a police agency that cares.

     

    For one thing, I think MMORPG should care that a member of this site received threats via their PM system, DoS attack aside. 

    I'm frankly shocked they haven't done anything at all yet.  All the evidence is in their forum database.

    They probably will ban me :)

    As I've said, I'm not interested in any recriminations for today, if it never happens again, beyond MMORPG management stopping the person responsible from continuing to be able to send threats to me via this site.

     

    I got a threatening PM from him as well. If anybody from mmorpg.com wants to look at it I left it in my inbox.

  • Originally posted by p920037

    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by salvaje


    Fact:  Several DoS attacks were made against my website today.  It was done by someone who also informed me that he was the responsible party who is a member of these forums.  Ball's in MMORPG's court as to what to be done about it.
    I personally am not going to take it any further than that unless it happens again.
    Everything else is speculation and rumor.
     

     

    I still haven't figured out what you are looking for.  So what if the person who attacked your  website is also a member of these forums?  Its not MMORPG's responsibility to police their members for criminal activity.

    Go find yourself a police agency that cares.

    Come on the guy who did the DoS attack has admitted to getting vet's accounts banned here at mmorpg.com. They should know who they are getting reports from.

    Let's be honest here....  MMORPG's mods probably liked having the excuse to do what they did, because someone gave them the plausibility via the report function.

    We know where their bias is.

    It's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

     

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    love the bunch of over inflated egos. LOL.....your site got attacked for a few mins...big whoop...lets make a national agenda out of it.

     

    Hey bucko...noone cares

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  • ArcAngel3ArcAngel3 Member Posts: 2,931

    Originally posted by salvaje


     
    Originally posted by p920037

    Originally posted by Kyleran


     
    Originally posted by salvaje


    Fact:  Several DoS attacks were made against my website today.  It was done by someone who also informed me that he was the responsible party who is a member of these forums.  Ball's in MMORPG's court as to what to be done about it.
    I personally am not going to take it any further than that unless it happens again.
    Everything else is speculation and rumor.
     

     

    I still haven't figured out what you are looking for.  So what if the person who attacked your  website is also a member of these forums?  Its not MMORPG's responsibility to police their members for criminal activity.

    Go find yourself a police agency that cares.

    Come on the guy who did the DoS attack has admitted to getting vet's accounts banned here at mmorpg.com. They should know who they are getting reports from.

     

    Let's be honest here....  MMORPG's mods probably liked having the excuse to do what they did, because someone gave them the plausibility via the report function.

    We know where their bias is.

    It's been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

     


    Re. the attack on your site, as long as you don't do anything reactive in response, the law is clearly on your side, with all its resources.

    Re. MMORPG.  They have been very good, in my view, to allow people to discuss some very controversial issues about a very controversial game.  Hats off to them for allowing this free discussion.

    My hope if they intervene around this recent issue is that they will take action against the person who has confessed to hacking, and that they will not do what this hacker probably would like to see, and that is take action against people who share their thoughts and feelings here.

  • ArcAngel3ArcAngel3 Member Posts: 2,931
    Originally posted by miagisan


    love the bunch of over inflated egos. LOL.....your site got attacked for a few mins...big whoop...lets make a national agenda out of it.
     
    Hey bucko...noone cares

    You've never worked in law enforcement have you?  You may be surprised.

  • RelCenturicaRelCenturica Member Posts: 80

    Wow... just... wow.  And that's all I'm going to say about the whole affair.

    And at those posts about how "We don't care", if you don't care so much why even take the energy to type out your posts here? Replying only means you do care to a certain extent.

    Its just like all the fanbois trying to tell us Vets they don't care we lost our game to some sleazy company. Just by taking the time to hit the reply button and hopefully forming a comprehensible sentance to pass along your point shows that you do care , even if "caring" means trying to render psyhological help never requested.

    "There's one MMO developer that doesn't want the money put in front of them - SOE"

  • veratutazzveratutazz Member UncommonPosts: 136

    Originally posted by ArcAngel3

    Originally posted by miagisan


    love the bunch of over inflated egos. LOL.....your site got attacked for a few mins...big whoop...lets make a national agenda out of it.
     
    Hey bucko...noone cares

    You've never worked in law enforcement have you?  You may be surprised.

     Have you? I have family members who work in law enforcement on the federal level and, no.. no they dont care about something silly and unsubstantiated like one person perpetrating a 'pseud-victimless' "spam attack" on a private website with no real value other than civilian entertainment.

     

    correction, noone with any real power cares.

     Of course, there are always exceptions, but my money is on the prediction that not one iota of printed, visual, or audio media from a nationally recognized source will report on this 'incident' at all. Nor will Sony have to be billed so much as one hour by one lawyer for anything remotely related to this 'incident'.

  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,449

    Oh hell I got a case of popcorn at Costco just for this thread. XD

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    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
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    Originally posted by miagisan


    love the bunch of over inflated egos. LOL.....your site got attacked for a few mins...big whoop...lets make a national agenda out of it.
     
    Hey bucko...noone cares

     

    I don't have any ego.  Indeed, the ego problem is over at Sony and LucasArts, who are unwilling to compromise theirs to admit that the CUNGE is a complete failure and that they should have reinstated the original game LOOONG ago.  So unwilling to admit their mistake, they continue to pour development into a game system (NGE) that is a miserable failure LONG past the point of recovery, just so they don't have to admit they were wrong, despite being down over 90% in subscribers.

    That takes an ego that is slightly larger than the planet Jupiter.  Or 5 Jupiters.

    For those of you in the "target audience" the planet Jupiter is the largest planet in our solar system, 2nd only to our Sun in size and mass.

    Any ego problem I might have is minuscule compared to that.

    Fact:  wildcatmmo.com was attacked today, multiple times.  Someone who is a member of this site claimed responsibility in multiple PM's and threats, and even admitted to it here on this forum.

    You know why I don't think it was SOE who did the attack?  Because the guy who did it at least demonstrated some knowledge of how to cripple an internet connection by sending excessive packets between client  and server (website).  That is the essence of a denial of service (DOS) attack.

    uhh...  ALL Lag on the NGE servers are caused by...  excessive packets.  Which their Devs completely lack any understanding of.  At least not enough to know that their whole game foundation is fatally flawed, regardless of it's merits, because the technology to make it work doesn't exist.

     

     

     

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    so please post the reply from fox news.....i bet they had a good chuckle.....i have yet to see you post any hard proof wether

    a) you got attacked even though you claimed on your own site you went down for maintenance

    b) have no proof that you were

    c) have not posted a reply in public re: Fox news making it seem you never did

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  • veratutazzveratutazz Member UncommonPosts: 136
    Originally posted by salvaje


     
     
     
    You know why I don't think it was SOE who did the attack?  Because the guy who did it at least demonstrated some knowledge of how to cripple an internet connection by sending excessive packets between client  and server (website).  That is the essence of a denial of service (DOS) attack.
    uhh...  ALL Lag on the NGE servers are caused by...  excessive packets.  Which their Devs completely lack any understanding of.  At least not enough to know that their whole game foundation is fatally flawed, regardless of it's merits, because the technology to make it work doesn't exist.
     
     
     

    LMAO!! ok.. for all the drama this thread has caused.. that is an awesome funny quote

  • Originally posted by miagisan


    so please post the reply from fox news.....i bet they had a good chuckle.....i have yet to see you post any hard proof wether
    a) you got attacked even though you claimed on your own site you went down for maintenance
    b) have no proof that you were
    c) have not posted a reply in public re: Fox news making it seem you never did

    c. I never contacted fox news.   I had nothing to do with that.

    b. have plenty of proof in the form of PM's sent to me by the perp here on MMORPG, which have been reported to management, and some of which were posted on my site.  Also, my users (and myself) saw the outages.

    a.  I, in fact DID take the site down for maintenance after the attacks.  I needed the downtime to gather evidence, in the form of logs, etc, which would have  been compromised by normal activity.

     

     

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156

    ahh sorry that was a cohort of the site who claimed they  did

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  • Originally posted by miagisan


    ahh sorry that was a cohort of the site who claimed they  did

    Trust me...  You DONT want to be here defending the guy.

    What I am telling you is the truth.  Yes, I was attacked.  Yes, I received threats.  No, even I don't think it was Sony, because they aren't THAT dumb.  Which is saying a lot.

    Let me put it to you this way...  If the attacker was a SOE or LEC employee...  I have an "INowOwnPreCU" button I could press by calling a lawyer.  Hell yeah, I wish that it was them who did it, cause I'd love to sue SOE/LEC and settle for an unlimited non commercial license to pre CU instead of money...

    No, it was a deranged fanboi.

     

  • veratutazzveratutazz Member UncommonPosts: 136

    Originally posted by salvaje


     
     
    Let me put it to you this way...  If the attacker was a SOE or LEC employee...  I have an "INowOwnPreCU" button I could press by calling a lawyer.  Hell yeah, I wish that it was them who did it, cause I'd love to sue SOE/LEC and settle for an unlimited non commercial license to pre CU instead of money...
    No, it was a deranged fanboi.
     
    Unfortunately, the truth is that unless you had proof (IE- corporate memos, emails) showing that SOE directed said employee to do said act, at worst they would simply send a team of lawyers to disavow any association in the said action in which said employee acted on his own in an unfortunate and unlawful manner that does not reflect the will of the company and  clearly outside the designated and delineated protocols and rules of conduct for any and every Sony and SOE employee set forth and signed in the trainee handbook in triplicate (Extends copy) ...

     

     you get the point, i think.

     

    but, yeah, sounds like he's just some idiot.

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