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Kull the destroyer - quest poll

eugameugam Member UncommonPosts: 984

Seen the movie yesterday on national TV.

Admitedly this ia a b-movie. Still it reminded me what i missed in AOC. Worldwide quests with a epic feeling. Looking at Kull its fleeing the city through the temple and underground dungeon, doing the ice island instance and then go back to raid the castle and destroy the flame of acheron. You dont need a high payed holywood writer for such content. Actually there are so many comics allready done who could be turned into questlines.

 

Not want to criticise AoC. I was just wondering if i am part of a minority ? Anyone else missing questlines with solo, group and sane guild raid content that lasts weeks or months per quest ? Old EQ2 had a lot of them. Gameplay was almost based on them. But since EoF expansion even SOE is getting a bit lazy. They still add a few longer quests, but not as much as in the past. The Conan IP was predestinated to be full of epic(ish) questlines but AoC is basically based on simple quest hubs.

Do players not want such content anymore, or is it worth to tell the devs that we want storylines.

Comments

  • UmbralUmbral Member Posts: 1,051

     

    Kull is from Robert E Howard too, but the movie version is very, very bad, even worse than the Beuwulf popular adaptation ( there is one good Beowulf adaptaion "Beowulf & Grendel" from 2005), so those payed hollywood writers just destroyed the original R E. H concept of Kull.

    There is one long storyline in Age of Conan, the Destiny quest, but I hope ( and Im pretty sure it will happen) Funcom bring more long questlines like heritages in EQ2 and mountquests in VG.

    But to tell the truth, I think today´s players dont want long and hard questlines that would need guild and friends help...wich is very sad

     

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  • todeswulftodeswulf Member Posts: 715
    Originally posted by Umbral


     
    Kull is from Robert E Howard too, but the movie version is very, very bad, even worse than the Beuwulf popular adaptation ( there is one good Beowulf adaptaion "Beowulf & Grendel" from 2005), so those payed hollywood writers just destroyed the original R E. H concept of Kull.
    There is one long storyline in Age of Conan, the Destiny quest, but I hope ( and Im pretty sure it will happen) Funcom bring more long questlines like heritages in EQ2 and mountquests in VG.
    But to tell the truth, I think today´s players dont want long and hard questlines that would need guild and friends help...wich is very sad
     
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    You forgot to add about six more "Verys' there guy....when I saw it I honestly thought Ed Wood came back to life and was making Movies again.  The movie was orginally going to be Conan 3, but Arnold read the script  started laughing and walked out of the studio offices. I just pray to god that Dino and Raphella never get near any other Howard property again.

  • SevenwindSevenwind Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    I don't mind huge quest lines as long as it doesn't involve massive camping and a raid guild to finish them. Also, the storyline in the quest has to be good.

    But these quest lines should consists of three areas, one for the casual solo player, one for the person who likes to do things in a small group, and one for the person who likes to raid.

    My days of camping for an item for a quest are over. If I can't get the feeling of doing something big with a small group then forget it. Which is why I like the small raids in DDO which is just two groups.

    I agree with you eugam.

     

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  • UmbralUmbral Member Posts: 1,051
    Originally posted by todeswulf




     
    You forgot to add about six more "Verys' there guy....when I saw it I honestly thought Ed Wood came back to life and was making Movies again.  The movie was orginally going to be Conan 3, but Arnold read the script  started laughing and walked out of the studio offices. I just pray to god that Dino and Raphella never get near any other Howard property again.



    Indeed, but I think that even with 6 more "verys" it would not be enough and even Ed Wood would be capable to do a better movie.

    I never understood why they got Kull as I though Kull was never famous in US as Conan was, but what you said about Conan 3 was maybe the reason...

    I didint know these details about kull/Conan 3 and Arnold, good to know it now and as you, I hope for the same.

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  • eugameugam Member UncommonPosts: 984
    Originally posted by Sevenwind


    I don't mind huge quest lines as long as it doesn't involve massive camping and a raid guild to finish them. Also, the storyline in the quest has to be good.
    But these quest lines should consists of three areas, one for the casual solo player, one for the person who likes to do things in a small group, and one for the person who likes to raid.
    My days of camping for an item for a quest are over. If I can't get the feeling of doing something big with a small group then forget it. Which is why I like the small raids in DDO which is just two groups.
    I agree with you eugam.
     

     

    Camping is silly and has nothing to do with playing a game.

    The best example i can think of is the "Mark of Awakening" in EQ2. It has solo content, group content and one raid. But the raid is balanced in a way so a casual family guild can beat the dragon. After all its a game and not sport.

    I dont mind hardcore raids, but quest raids should be balanced for casuals. Unfortunately i have seen different family guilds dieing because of the raid endgame. Those raids are balanced for the hardcores with a optimized setup of classes and CS style voicecom communication. That doesnt work for family guilds. I have seen guilds who tried to force it. The result is very sad.

    Another failure of gaming companies. My guild was one of the largest on the server and we had 20-40% female players and quite some kids of guildies. I dont think we have been a minority. Still the devs like to care 100% for 25yo male uberguilds and neglect a huge part of their playerbase.

  • eugameugam Member UncommonPosts: 984
    Originally posted by Umbral

    Originally posted by todeswulf




     
    You forgot to add about six more "Verys' there guy....when I saw it I honestly thought Ed Wood came back to life and was making Movies again.  The movie was orginally going to be Conan 3, but Arnold read the script  started laughing and walked out of the studio offices. I just pray to god that Dino and Raphella never get near any other Howard property again.



    Indeed, but I think that even with 6 more "verys" it would not be enough and even Ed Wood would be capable to do a better movie.

    I never understood why they got Kull as I though Kull was never famous in US as Conan was, but what you said about Conan 3 was maybe the reason...

    I didint know these details about kull/Conan 3 and Arnold, good to know it now and as you, I hope for the same.

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    Kull  (Conan3) or Conan, Sorbas or Schwarzenegger. Doesnt make much of a difference. All three movies arent that great tbh :) I like the combat more in Kull... just some of the actors aren that great in Kull. 

    I d rather like to see a Conan movie styled like one of those old movies. Lets say like "The Mummy" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023245/). Some dark and evil story about a warrior and a deep story about acheronian evil ;)

  • UmbralUmbral Member Posts: 1,051
    Originally posted by eugam

    Originally posted by Umbral

    Originally posted by todeswulf




     
    You forgot to add about six more "Verys' there guy....when I saw it I honestly thought Ed Wood came back to life and was making Movies again.  The movie was orginally going to be Conan 3, but Arnold read the script  started laughing and walked out of the studio offices. I just pray to god that Dino and Raphella never get near any other Howard property again.



    Indeed, but I think that even with 6 more "verys" it would not be enough and even Ed Wood would be capable to do a better movie.

    I never understood why they got Kull as I though Kull was never famous in US as Conan was, but what you said about Conan 3 was maybe the reason...

    I didint know these details about kull/Conan 3 and Arnold, good to know it now and as you, I hope for the same.

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    Kull  (Conan3) or Conan, Sorbas or Schwarzenegger. Doesnt make much of a difference. All three movies arent that great tbh :) I like the combat more in Kull... just some of the actors aren that great in Kull. 

    I d rather like to see a Conan movie styled like one of those old movies. Lets say like "The Mummy" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023245/). Some dark and evil story about a warrior and a deep story about acheronian evil ;)



     

    Conan the Barbarian is good, very close to the original lore and as it is a melodrama it was easy to forget about the bad actors as the movie is more based on music and image.

    The second Conan is a cheap and family version of the first and sorry I cant stand Kull ( the movie ), kull and scorpion king are the worst side of fantasy on the cinema ( in my opinion ).

    I would love to see a Conan movie totally based on Robert E. Howard stories but with the tone of Beowulf and Grendel ( 2005 ) or in the realistic tone of Mongol ( russian movie )...

    But a Conan 3 with a melodrama concept as the first movie would be nice too.

     

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