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Darkfall: video and beta

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  • strongaxestrongaxe Member Posts: 848

    The videos on youtube dont do it justice.  I was blown AWAY!! woot!

  • gathgath Member Posts: 424
    Originally posted by strongaxe


    The videos on youtube dont do it justice.  I was blown AWAY!! woot!

     

    I saw the downloaded video, all 600+Mb...

    If you infact got "blown away" with that... i pity you.

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  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444
    Originally posted by Xris375

    Originally posted by paulscott


    Darkfall fanboys do not realize how much grind there will be in the game.   Sure you could level up nice and fast but how many man-months do you think it will take to build a boat much less a town that covers the entire crafting tree(including boat requirements).
     
    The most rabid of Darkfall fanboys will end up leaving the game and the community will become pretty tame but pretty paranoid as well because their holdings can disappear.

    Nice theory. How exactly do you level up in a skillbased, sandbox again ?

     

    Class levels are gone.  Most (if not all) Sandbox games still contain Skill Levels though.  Remember UO?  You started out 1 worked the skill hit 2, then after some time you eventually GM'd it.  Even the Elder Scroll series is like this to an extent, and it's considered sandbox-ish.  Not saying I agree with Pauls post.  Just saying that being Sandbox really doesn't remove levels or grinding. *Note this is not an argument against Darkfall*  At least I believe that is the question you were asking.  I might have mis-understood the point you were/are trying to make.

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  • DenebDeneb Member Posts: 38
    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by strongaxe


    The videos on youtube dont do it justice.  I was blown AWAY!! woot!

     

    I saw the downloaded video, all 600+Mb...

    If you infact got "blown away" with that... i pity you.

     

    What is the problem with the graphics exactly? I thought they were good... not the best around, but good. Anyway, I will never understand those who think graphics > gameplay. To me it just makes no sense... we are talking about a game and not a damn movie!  Bah... to each its own I guess.

  • MLecl0001MLecl0001 Member Posts: 153

    A video does not equal a game.  I know some people at the local arts school who could put together a better movie than that, doesnt mean they could make a game.  Also all the promises in the world dont mean crap if and when they dont deliver them.  I feel bad for all you people who think they will actually deliver on everything they promise.  Considering bigger/better/more well known development companies have a hard time on delivering promises that are more down to earth.

     

    Also a beta date is not a release date.  I will consider this game vaporware until it releases, period.

    Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

  • ThunderousThunderous Member Posts: 1,152

    The graphics are right no par with most games.  Only games like AoC, Vanguard, and a few others I have played clearly have better graphics.

    The graphics are OK.  Not great, not bad.  Just OK.

    The combat looks like a blast though. 

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  • Ghost12Ghost12 Member Posts: 684
    Originally posted by MLecl0001


    A video does not equal a game.  I know some people at the local arts school who could put together a better movie than that, doesnt mean they could make a game.  Also all the promises in the world dont mean crap if and when they dont deliver them.  I feel bad for all you people who think they will actually deliver on everything they promise.  Considering bigger/better/more well known development companies have a hard time on delivering promises that are more down to earth.
     
    Also a beta date is not a release date.  I will consider this game vaporware until it releases, period.

    Wow, give this game a break will you?

     

    I remember people constantly saying that its vaporware cause the devs do not release any "proof". Well heres your proof. It sounds like your just bitter like some of the other vaporware trolls that you were proven wrong.

    I cant believe this - Adventurine comes out with 600MB, almost 700mb of video and youre still saying its not "proof". Well guess what? Aoc had "proof" of it coming out with video, WAR has "video" proof of it coming out, and you didnt consider that vaporware either.

    Give these guys their just due, really. Stop making yourself look like an idiot, cause I know youre more intelligent than that.

    Congrats guys. I hope this game does well.

     

  • gathgath Member Posts: 424
    Originally posted by Deneb

    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by strongaxe


    The videos on youtube dont do it justice.  I was blown AWAY!! woot!

     

    I saw the downloaded video, all 600+Mb...

    If you infact got "blown away" with that... i pity you.

     

    What is the problem with the graphics exactly? I thought they were good... not the best around, but good. Anyway, I will never understand those who think graphics > gameplay. To me it just makes no sense... we are talking about a game and not a damn movie!  Bah... to each its own I guess.

    Why dont you read the entire thread? I clearly sid i dont care about the graphics. They are worse then average, but if the gameplay was good, i would not care.

     

    Yet, aparently, the gameplay is crap. And i dont understand why every fanboi sais the game rocks, when infact it looks like crap. The movements are terrible, the PvP looks subpar, at best (yay, i'm auto whacking an enemy to death), the "mage" class, or whatever it was, seemed idiot, at best. (oh, let me 1 shot everyone in the map, it will look good in the video)...

    Please... Assuming the gameplay is even half of what they said it would be, the video SUCKS, and anyone that sais diferent is or a blindfolded fanboi, or played 1-2 MMOs at max.

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  • DenebDeneb Member Posts: 38
    Originally posted by Ghost12

    Originally posted by MLecl0001


    A video does not equal a game.  I know some people at the local arts school who could put together a better movie than that, doesnt mean they could make a game.  Also all the promises in the world dont mean crap if and when they dont deliver them.  I feel bad for all you people who think they will actually deliver on everything they promise.  Considering bigger/better/more well known development companies have a hard time on delivering promises that are more down to earth.
     
    Also a beta date is not a release date.  I will consider this game vaporware until it releases, period.

    Wow, give this game a break will you?

     

    I remember people constantly saying that its vaporware cause the devs do not release any "proof". Well heres your proof. It sounds like your just bitter like some of the other vaporware trolls that you were proven wrong.

     

    My thoughts exactly. The vaporware trolls lost the war, as simple as that. I actually enjoy seeing them all defensive and bitter though... :)

  • undiesusaundiesusa Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by Deneb

    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by strongaxe


    The videos on youtube dont do it justice.  I was blown AWAY!! woot!

     

    I saw the downloaded video, all 600+Mb...

    If you infact got "blown away" with that... i pity you.

     

    What is the problem with the graphics exactly? I thought they were good... not the best around, but good. Anyway, I will never understand those who think graphics > gameplay. To me it just makes no sense... we are talking about a game and not a damn movie!  Bah... to each its own I guess.

    Why dont you read the entire thread? I clearly sid i dont care about the graphics. They are worse then average, but if the gameplay was good, i would not care.

     

    Yet, aparently, the gameplay is crap. And i dont understand why every fanboi sais the game rocks, when infact it looks like crap. The movements are terrible, the PvP looks subpar, at best (yay, i'm auto whacking an enemy to death), the "mage" class, or whatever it was, seemed idiot, at best. (oh, let me 1 shot everyone in the map, it will look good in the video)...

    Please... Assuming the gameplay is even half of what they said it would be, the video SUCKS, and anyone that sais diferent is or a blindfolded fanboi, or played 1-2 MMOs at max.

     

    There are no classes. There is no auto attack. The pvp looks sub par? Are you high?

    There isn't another game on the market with this level of graphics that has first person shooter controls in an mmorpg world. Additionally, full loot, crafting, player made cities, resource points.

    You obviously know very little about Darkfall or are too stupid to realize what you just watched.

    It was Epic.

  • DenebDeneb Member Posts: 38
    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by Deneb

    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by strongaxe


    The videos on youtube dont do it justice.  I was blown AWAY!! woot!

     

    I saw the downloaded video, all 600+Mb...

    If you infact got "blown away" with that... i pity you.

     

    What is the problem with the graphics exactly? I thought they were good... not the best around, but good. Anyway, I will never understand those who think graphics > gameplay. To me it just makes no sense... we are talking about a game and not a damn movie!  Bah... to each its own I guess.

    Why dont you read the entire thread? I clearly sid i dont care about the graphics. They are worse then average, but if the gameplay was good, i would not care.

     

    Yet, aparently, the gameplay is crap. And i dont understand why every fanboi sais the game rocks, when infact it looks like crap. The movements are terrible, the PvP looks subpar, at best (yay, i'm auto whacking an enemy to death), the "mage" class, or whatever it was, seemed idiot, at best. (oh, let me 1 shot everyone in the map, it will look good in the video)...

    Please... Assuming the gameplay is even half of what they said it would be, the video SUCKS, and anyone that sais diferent is or a blindfolded fanboi, or played 1-2 MMOs at max.

     

    Oh shit.. you truly have no clue. I have put in red proofs of your ignorance, hehe ;) Seriously though, get a clue

  • gathgath Member Posts: 424
    Originally posted by undiesusa 
    There are no classes. There is no auto attack. The pvp looks sub par? Are you high?
    There isn't another game on the market with this level of graphics that has first person shooter controls in an mmorpg world. Additionally, full loot, crafting, player made cities, resource points.
    You obviously know very little about Darkfall or are too stupid to realize what you just watched.
    It was Epic.

     

    Hihi, every pseudo fanboi said something like that: it's amazing, it's incredible, it's great... yet, no one sais anything else about it...

    Full loot? Where, not shown on video. Infact, people seemed to die too quick. If infact it has full loot, if people die that quick, half hte players will cry about constantly losing their stuff.

    And, WTF is "this level of graphics"? Graphics SUCKED!!" no one wiht a straight face can say other wise. I could play a 2d, pixel riden MMO, if it had good gameplay, yet, i find those graphics on the video pathetic.

    Crafting? Where? I saw 2 seconds of a pseudo crafting system... or... was it?

    Player made cities? A full wall gets torn apart by 3 players on a "tank" or WTF it was... That must be fun

    Resource points...? Where? Nothing even similar on the video...

     

    Why dont you understand i'm not talking about the game (yet), i'm talking about hte video... Video SUCKED, no excuses, no way around it. Plain sucked. I just hope the game is better...

    Although i highly doubt it.

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  • gathgath Member Posts: 424
    Originally posted by Deneb 
    Oh shit.. you truly have no clue. I have put in red proofs of your ignorance, hehe ;) Seriously though, get a clue

     

    Show me where in the video it tells me somtething diferent, or 'teachs me' how it is infact.

    Hmm...?

    Oh... you cant... can you...?

     

    Also, while we are at it, show me in the video where it shows ANYTHING except auto melee attack (or whatever you call it) and the OP blasts from the "casters". No... seriously... show it...

     

     

    edit: again, i'm not talking about the game... and that's the point, the video does not show anything about the game, infromation wise. The game is what they said it would be? Great!, But, the video does NOT show any of it... video = crap, no matter how good the game might or not be.

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905

    Well that came outta left field.

    I wish them luck, this is a pretty anticipated game and by the looks of it people are more or less either enjoying the possiblity of launch or are just being jackarses about it for some reason. Yeah its been in developement for a long time but at no point did they ever offer a beta or a launch timeframe. 

    I guess we will see.

    The game looks like its going to be brutal.

    Maybe MMO's will enjoy a few good game launches in the next year, lord knows its been  a long time since that as happened.

    The only thing I can see is if this total PvP game launches its gonna draw a ton of flak from PvEers as it has everything they want. Huge seemless world, build anything, no instances, mounted combat, crafting with purpose, player cities, skill based combat...

  • DenebDeneb Member Posts: 38
    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by Deneb 
    Oh shit.. you truly have no clue. I have put in red proofs of your ignorance, hehe ;) Seriously though, get a clue

     

    Show me where in the video it tells me somtething diferent, or 'teachs me' how it is infact.

    Hmm...?

    Oh... you cant... can you...?

     

    Also, while we are at it, show me in the video where it shows ANYTHING except auto melee attack (or whatever you call it) and the OP blasts from the "casters". No... seriously... show it...

     

    No seriously I say it again but read about the game before talking about things you don't know about. Go there : darkfallonline.com... and read the game features. You will see that the combat is FPS style AND that there are no classes.

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by Deneb 
    Oh shit.. you truly have no clue. I have put in red proofs of your ignorance, hehe ;) Seriously though, get a clue

     

    Show me where in the video it tells me somtething diferent, or 'teachs me' how it is infact.

    Hmm...?

    Oh... you cant... can you...?

     

    Also, while we are at it, show me in the video where it shows ANYTHING except auto melee attack (or whatever you call it) and the OP blasts from the "casters". No... seriously... show it...

     

     

    edit: again, i'm not talking about the game... and that's the point, the video does not show anything about the game, infromation wise. The game is what they said it would be? Great!, But, the video does NOT show any of it... video = crap, no matter how good the game might or not be.

    The game uses FPS style combat.

    Also no classes, skill based system.

     

  • Token1337GuyToken1337Guy Member Posts: 159
    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by Deneb 
    Oh shit.. you truly have no clue. I have put in red proofs of your ignorance, hehe ;) Seriously though, get a clue

     

    Show me where in the video it tells me somtething diferent, or 'teachs me' how it is infact.

    Hmm...?

    Oh... you cant... can you...?

     

    Also, while we are at it, show me in the video where it shows ANYTHING except auto melee attack (or whatever you call it) and the OP blasts from the "casters". No... seriously... show it...

    One of Darkfall's main features is real-time combat.  If they were to switch to a conventional MMORPG combat system without telling anyone they may as well have shot themselves in the foot.  So, to address your statement, watch the video.

  • gathgath Member Posts: 424
    Originally posted by Torak


    The game uses FPS style combat.
    Also no classes, skill based system.
     

     

    I have read it the first time... Still, tell me where in the video it somewhat tells people that is how it looks like, or, shows that even with no class, it has more then 2 kinds of attacks. I mean, if it is skill system, surely is has several kinds of attacking the fellow player, no?

     

    Do i have to type it a 3rd time? It has nothing to do with what the game is or not. It's about the video, and how much it sucks. The video. Maybe not hte game. The video.

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  • rovorovo Member Posts: 20

    Basically the video was just something to feed us fanboys. It is just a small vid of gameplay. it is not suppose to teach you anything, its not suppose to be some cinematic to make people go wow. Everything is staged to just show us a few things in the game. Im sorry they dont have some annoying guy to explain everything they show you in videos like they have in WAR. I dunno who posted this in the MMORPG forums, but damnit.

  • PyndaPynda Member UncommonPosts: 856

    Graphics:

    Cities and Countryside: Excellent (certainly better than Vanguard, say)

    Characters: Very Good

    Battle Animation: Very Good (blood only on crits please, a peeve)

    Mount Animation: Very Good (mounted fighting, you don't see that in Warhammer etc.)

    Char Running Animation: Granted, could use some work.
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    So WTF are you graphics whiners complaining about? You've still got WoW. If this game only has 75% of the features Adventurine has talked about, it's going to be a real winner for a lot of us here. And the rest of you can still go play Hello Kitty or whatever other dumbed down, linear grindfest gets your rocks off.

    There's still a lot Darkfall has left to prove to me (Darkfall & Light II?), but I wish you mutts would get a grip. This is good news, not bad. Be happy.

    Note: I also don't like seeing cannons/guns/gunpowder in fantasy settings. But that's another peeve of mine. And I'd be willing to overlook it if the game was good.

  • downtoearthdowntoearth Member Posts: 3,558

    FYI that was only medium settings

  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
    Originally posted by gath

    Originally posted by Torak


    The game uses FPS style combat.
    Also no classes, skill based system.
     

     

    I have read it the first time... Still, tell me where in the video it somewhat tells people that is how it looks like, or, shows that even with no class, it has more then 2 kinds of attacks. I mean, if it is skill system, surely is has several kinds of attacking the fellow player, no?

     

    Do i have to type it a 3rd time? It has nothing to do with what the game is or not. It's about the video, and how much it sucks. The video. Maybe not hte game. The video.

    Dunno, I'm sure more info will be out over the next few weeks / months.

    DDO and Tabula Rasa use a similar system so its not that big of a deal tbh. I think this is just truer to FPS.

    I don't know what you mean by "2 kinds of attacks". Thats what any MMO has, melee and ranged. There are "specials" and different "spells". Not trying to be a jerk but you really should check out the offical page, it answers all of that. I read it before I posted this today. I have not been following DF at all. (in fact I have been making fun of and antagonizing DF fanbois for years)

    www.darkfallonline.com/faq/general.html

  • natauschnatausch Member Posts: 56

    I liked Darkfall back when it was called Dawn, and you had the promise of launching fetuses from catapults after being sexually assaulted by another character and having to carry the baby to term.

    But they sure did make great golf clubs.

  • BaronJuJuBaronJuJu Member UncommonPosts: 1,832

    Wow, that new EQ2 expansion looks great.

    I kid, I kid. Seriously though it must be nice for the rabid fanboys/gals to finally, after 7 years, to at least see the words "beta registration". Best of luck on the game. Oh and I sure hope Adventurine does you "fans in waiting" a bit more justice than that video, because that one was just horrible. It looks like a 4-5 year old game already. The features and open skills list is fantastic, if it all makes it in there.

    Good luck guys and don't get your expectations up too high...well, higher than it has been already. If the last few years of MMO releases have shown us anything is that games can crash and burn rather quickly.

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  • tvalentinetvalentine Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 4,216

    it really didnt look that great, only way im gonna buy it if it can sustain a reasonable sub count for a month or 2.

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