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Interesting active player take from the oboards....
Valeran
Member Posts: 925
Not sure how long before the thread gets mod dumped but here you go...
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?&topic_id=747636
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quote from revolutionary_rebel...
valara's recent friday feature gave us a percentage of players playing on Sep 2:
using that percantage and the activeframe stats, we have a fairly good estimation of SWG population numbers... it's around 10, 000, give or take +/- 1000 for non-ranked players...
check the activeframe stats, total reb and imps ranked is 8440.
3796 imps
4644 rebs
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astromech stats
37% imp
40% reb
23% neutral
the numbers are very similar...
enjoy! SMILEY
edit: i'm adding this so i don't need to repeat myself...
1. i have no comment about these numbers and how they relate to the game
2. this is simply my opinion on the numbers and an estimation
3. this is regarding active players, NOT subscriptions... yes, i know there's alot of you who have 15 toons or whatever, but you are only 1 player and that does not change...
4. this is a snapshot in time (Sep 2) so the majority of you MOST LIKELY were only playing 1 toon at the time, and yes i understand SOME of you actually play multiple toons at the same time (at the most 2 or 3 toons simultaneously)
5. if you don't like my numbers, that is totally fine because i do not care
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Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism
"SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor
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/spittake #1
Quote from Defender of Reality...
"I would guess the number of currently active SWG subscribtions to be around 50-150k"
wow...just wow. Not only the high number this person states but the range....
/spittake #2
Quote from Skuzz...
"Personally I'd wager that we are floating somewhere between 100k and 200k. imho."
Wonder how much he is willing to wager?...
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Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism
"SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor
rofl...there is no way SWG has even close to 50k active subscriptions. Smed must just laugh when he reads those posts...
Those numbers are ambiguous at best. What I would look at is how mnay servers are rated as very heavy, heavy, med., light and very light. From my understanding theres maybe 5 servers that are considered very heavy or heavy on a regular basis. Lets say each server can hold up to 5000 players (which is being generous imo). Now I doubt all 5 of those servers have 5000 people playing so we can average the heavy and very heavy down to around 3000 each. Thats 15000 players. Now, spread out across all the other servers from what I've been reading on server populations, I'll be generous and say theres another 10k player playing on essentially dead servers. Thats a grand total player base of 25k with maybe 40-50k subs since most people have more than one account. Understand that my estimates are being very genrous to swg's population. So at most we're looking at around 25k of actual players. Its probably less than that though, between 10k and 20k. However, theres probably enough money coming in from the total number of SUBSCRIPTIONS for soe to keep swg going for now. Realistically, they're probably looking at around 500k a month in sub fees which might be enough to keep the game going for the next while as long as their expenses are kept low.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Not his NGE account - its worthless.
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Just because the servers can hold that many doesn't mean there are that many, i left a few months ago and would have put an honest guesstimate at around 5k subs(based on 1 of the med servers), but that's just a personal opinion based upon my experience of the population, between 5 and 10k i think is a realistic num of subs
Just because the servers can hold that many doesn't mean there are that many, i left a few months ago and would have put an honest guesstimate at around 5k subs(based on 1 of the med servers), but that's just a personal opinion based upon my experience of the population, between 5 and 10k i think is a realistic num of subs
Oh I know that. Like I said, I was being fairly generous with my estimates. Even so, its pretty pathetic numbers compared to what it was. 25k is still horrible.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Just because the servers can hold that many doesn't mean there are that many, i left a few months ago and would have put an honest guesstimate at around 5k subs(based on 1 of the med servers), but that's just a personal opinion based upon my experience of the population, between 5 and 10k i think is a realistic num of subs
The number I was given was around 7k but that was four or five months ago so it's less than that now.
What AOC did not kill WAR finished off I am sure.
I couldn't leave that 1 be. LOL I can still post on the O boards until Nov. ROFL
I think this thread over here gave Kobie convulsions. LOL
I saw his posts over there. While I agree sort of that theres been a lot a wild numbers thrown around here regarding how low the subs are, theres just as many ridiculous claims by the other side. Some of them still believe theres over 100k, or more, still playing. Like I said, I think an accurate estimate, based on how many servers are active and how many are dead, is probably between 10k and 20k players.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
I finally got a chance to go read the entire thread at the oboard...the amount of both ignorance and denial from the current playerbase is staggering.
It will be more interesting to follow this topic after the 9/18 release of WAR. The abysmally small SWG playerbase is about to get rocked again.
Yeah, I was kind of thinking the same thing but I didn't realize War begins so soon. I thought it still had another month to go before release.
But I wouldn't be a bit surprised to get a vet trial in the next 2 days. I am expecting there to be one in September, and perhaps they're waiting to counter the effects of Warhammer.
Oh, and of course WoW has an expansion due out soon so I can see many people signing back up to play that again. The next few months will surely be interesting to see if a Hoth instance can help sustain the subs in SWG. I doubt it myself.
Yeah lots of ignorance in that thread, another interesting thing is most of them are admitting they have 3-4 or even 5 accounts, one said all are elder accounts with 3rd unlock slot (that screams ebayed right there). makes me kind of feel sorry for people who waste money on multi-accounts. Pre-CU I used to have 2 accounts because of 1 character restriction but I never dream of 3-4 accountrs with 8-10 characters!
No, the best one is the post saying their guild leader has almost 7000 subs, himself. ROFL
Thats the 1 I pointed out in my post. Fun thread. LOL
Oh and I forgot to mention, after reading and seeing many people in that thread claim that they have many characters that aren't in the GCW ranking, well, my guild (which I think was around 120 members last I was on) on Lowca isn't a pvp based guild but only 4 or 5 members weren't in the GCW ranking (excluding crafter alts of course), almost every one of the guild members were a general or colonel because they like the buffs that can be used in instances, the guild runs instances ALL the time and takes control of Talus and Corellia static bases all the time, again I say this is NOT a pvp guild. Then again maybe Lowca is heavily pvp centric even by the casual. ;P
I am a little shocked that the oboard mods left that thread up.
A person could have 6 account but it still only equals 1 active player.
Tons of people posting in it about having multiple accounts. Many cannot seem to grasp the concept of active subs does not equal active players and visa versa.
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Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism
"SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor
I certainly chuckled a few times reading the thread especially the bit where there is 100k people playing still 10k people playing sounds about right really considering all the multiple accounts from the same person.... guess most people do play with thierself in that game.....
I have to admit that thread is highly entertaining watching the fanbois defense. Page 16 is particularly nice as towards the end the OP uses the defenders numbers against them. All they can do is just /flame.
Priceless.
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Ten Golden Rules Of Videogame Fanboyism
"SOE has probably united more gamers in hatred than Blizzard has subs"...daelnor
Games that have over 100,000 active subscribers get expansion. Expansions bring in money AND bring back old players AND reduce churn.
SOE canceled their plans to make an expansion several months after the NGE hit and has not gotten around to working on an expansion.
Anyone can do the math and see what is obvious.
Anyone who thinks this game has anywher close to 100k or more subscriptions is sadly not in touch with reality.
100k subs would relate to an average of 800 active players online each server at prime time. Does anyone feel there are that many people playing when they log in?
Sadly being out of touch with reality seems to be an apt description for a lot of SOE's victims customers.
By SOE's own admission "only 1 in 10 people post on the forums" Everyday since the NGE i have checked them it is a routine,my gauge of the state of the game.
The oboards have generally run at the one thousand level/logged in and visitors combined for quite some time now, on average.
If the SOE statement is accurate that is roughly 10,000 players. I could believe maybe 20,000 but no more than that. And this would include Station pass.
A bit of a highlight for emphasis on what I'm gonna say...
In the Pre-NGE days, SWG's official forums were extremely busy. Profession subforums were busy. The GCW subforum was the busiest by far. It was hard to keep a thread you were watching on the first page past a few hours.
And that was back in the day where SOE despised its then-more-numerous players, even though they bothered to post about the game.
So... there were more players back in Pre-NGE days, especially Pre-CU, and more o-forum traffic compared to now.
A nice little reflection on the reality of SWG & SOE's failure.
"I have only two out of my company and 20 out of some other company. We need support, but it is almost suicide to try to get it here as we are swept by machine gun fire and a constant barrage is on us. I have no one on my left and only a few on my right. I will hold." (First Lieutenant Clifton B. Cates, US Marine Corps, Soissons, 19 July 1918)