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A great link (actually on the funcom general boards) that shows how badly AoC is dying.
Libertasplz
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First 30 days of posts on general boards 100 pages of posts took 3 days and now it is taking 50 lol!
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=2051456#post2051456
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That guy has too much time on his hands.
Im sure alot has to do with population but not all. In the starting phases of any mmo, people dont know alot about the game so they ask questions on the forums. After a certain amount of time people become knowledgable enough to ask ingame, or do a search on what they want to know. But yeah...any way you look at it, it sucks for sure.
I am waiting for some fanboi to come here and say, the reason for this is that everyone is having so much fun and playing that they don't have time to post!
The only reason you don't see more posts, is because those who enjoy the game are having a blast playing it. Happy now?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Everyone is having too much fun playng their previous games to post on the AoC forums
Believe it or not, I was pretty much against the hype of this game at first. I bought it a few weeks ago and I'm having fun. Ill soon hit 80 and playing a few alts at the same time so it's not just tortage. The server i play on have a healthy population in every zone (RP-PVP). The in-game community could be a bit better and also certain zones feel a bit rushed, but overall the game is charming.
You are lucky that you missed out on all the major release issues that we had.
Oh, and congrats! in 4 days it will be your MMORPG 1 year anniversary!!
But its seems that he is right. PvE is lacking, PvP same deal. and the bugs...oh god, theres so much more than the memory leak but I will spare you.
If i do cancel i will probably wait for 6 months or so before getting back to check things out, but i will be back (i think).
Spoils of War - The quickest way of ending a war is to lose it.
I'm playing AoC
I don't post on the official forums because I think they are rubbish. Funcom seems to ignore valid points, or even deletes the threads if they perceive they are being 'dissed'.
i liked AOC .. i left because of the game crashign saying out of memory error all the time. Id go back if i knew that it was fixed.
Good plan. I'm also waiting for about 6 months. Or less, if they merge servers and put out a trial.
Don't worry about Pezz. People have different levels of expectations. Pezz is in that 10% of gamers who like AoC and are happy no matter what. You give him fatalities and boobs and he'll be happy for a month. It's like throwing a bone to a dog.
Actually the Sept 17th patch fixed the grey map and oom errors for almost everyone....
If that was the only thing holding you back, then the gates are open.
And I am still ticked off at AoC (for other reasons), so you can trust me about that information.
Thanks for letting me know that, i hate to spend money on a game that i keep getting disconnected from. Didnt hear that it had been fixed, since u said it has been addressed i might give it another try
I would still recommend you wait for a trial. Problems in AoC go way beyond disconnects. When trial comes you will have healthy populations on servers which will improve your overall experience dramatically.
But hey it's you money
A Massive Falling In Daily Traffic To EVERY Major Gaming Site Except mmorpg.com
Sarcasticgamer traffic is down by 30%, CheapAssGamer is down by 37%, GamePro is down by 25%, VGChartz is down by 30%, GameRankings is down by 46%, Gamasutra is down by 35%, and the list goes on.
Major gaming blogs, like Joystiq, seem to have the hardest hit to their traffic. Joystiq traffic is down 43%, Destructoid is down by 36%, and GoNintendo is down by 38%. The worst, however, is Kotaku, who has seen a falling in daily visitors by a whopping 49%.
Even the biggest of gaming sites is falling victim to the trend: Traffic to Gamespot.com has fallen by 29%, while IGN is down 33%, and 1UP is down by 26%.
Trend linked some how? who knows, just a thought..
Did Flourine compare the European Forums where the game sold more to get an accurate representation of forums traffic in the hypothesis that the game forums are dying?
Or did you decide to think that because Flourine says the "game forums" are dying you would conveniently forgot to admit those two words in the topic title... therefore being misleading again.
A Massive Falling In Daily Traffic To EVERY Major Gaming Site Except mmorpg.com
Sarcasticgamer traffic is down by 30%, CheapAssGamer is down by 37%, GamePro is down by 25%, VGChartz is down by 30%, GameRankings is down by 46%, Gamasutra is down by 35%, and the list goes on.
Major gaming blogs, like Joystiq, seem to have the hardest hit to their traffic. Joystiq traffic is down 43%, Destructoid is down by 36%, and GoNintendo is down by 38%. The worst, however, is Kotaku, who has seen a falling in daily visitors by a whopping 49%.
Even the biggest of gaming sites is falling victim to the trend: Traffic to Gamespot.com has fallen by 29%, while IGN is down 33%, and 1UP is down by 26%.
Trend linked some how? who knows, just a thought..
Did Flourine compare the European Forums where the game sold more to get an accurate representation of forums traffic in the hypothesis that the game forums are dying?
Or did you decide to think that because Flourine says the "game forums" are dying you would conveniently forgot to admit those two words in the topic title... therefore being misleading again.
I looked at some mmo specific site stats and overall the trend seemed on the decline, with the exception of newly released titles. That all seems consistent with the article you've linked to.
So I guess the question is whether site visits and overall forum activity for AoC are down in a manner more severe than the trend noted above? If that were the case, one could argue that the decline is more rapid for this particular title. That would be a concern correct?
Where other sites may be able to mitigate and survive lower site visits/activity; one on a more severe decline would have a more profound impact. Worth noting, and definitely an interesting topic.
Thanks for that link Avery!
Way to double troll. Good Job.
On topic: Hmm, it couldn't be because people tend to post more in a game's forums when they are trolling (most trolls had their accounts finally expire) or when they have issues with the game could it?
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A Massive Falling In Daily Traffic To EVERY Major Gaming Site Except mmorpg.com
Sarcasticgamer traffic is down by 30%, CheapAssGamer is down by 37%, GamePro is down by 25%, VGChartz is down by 30%, GameRankings is down by 46%, Gamasutra is down by 35%, and the list goes on.
Major gaming blogs, like Joystiq, seem to have the hardest hit to their traffic. Joystiq traffic is down 43%, Destructoid is down by 36%, and GoNintendo is down by 38%. The worst, however, is Kotaku, who has seen a falling in daily visitors by a whopping 49%.
Even the biggest of gaming sites is falling victim to the trend: Traffic to Gamespot.com has fallen by 29%, while IGN is down 33%, and 1UP is down by 26%.
Trend linked some how? who knows, just a thought..
Did Flourine compare the European Forums where the game sold more to get an accurate representation of forums traffic in the hypothesis that the game forums are dying?
Or did you decide to think that because Flourine says the "game forums" are dying you would conveniently forgot to admit those two words in the topic title... therefore being misleading again.
Ummm how do posts within a game's official forums relate at all to the traffic on general gaming sites? All that post said was that forum traffic on AoC was down 95%. That's a major loss of traffic and considering only people who have accounts can post there reflects on their subscription numbers.
It never fails to make me laugh when people on mmorpg.com pull stats out of the sky to justify their posts.
So what if traffic is down on the AOC forums?
Firstly, it's a well known fact that only a minority of people playing MMO's actually post on the forums of the games that they play. This goes for ALL mmo's, not just AOC.
Secondly, there is no correllation between posts on forums and actual sub numbers. For all we know, there could be a log in problem preventing people from actually viewing the board. Yes, that's unlikely, but that hypothesis is based on about as much fact as your OP.
I'm not for one minute suggesting that AOC subs haven't dropped dramatically, however if you're going to be a doomsayer, please do so with a little more fact to base your argument.
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A Massive Falling In Daily Traffic To EVERY Major Gaming Site Except mmorpg.com
Sarcasticgamer traffic is down by 30%, CheapAssGamer is down by 37%, GamePro is down by 25%, VGChartz is down by 30%, GameRankings is down by 46%, Gamasutra is down by 35%, and the list goes on.
Major gaming blogs, like Joystiq, seem to have the hardest hit to their traffic. Joystiq traffic is down 43%, Destructoid is down by 36%, and GoNintendo is down by 38%. The worst, however, is Kotaku, who has seen a falling in daily visitors by a whopping 49%.
Even the biggest of gaming sites is falling victim to the trend: Traffic to Gamespot.com has fallen by 29%, while IGN is down 33%, and 1UP is down by 26%.
Trend linked some how? who knows, just a thought..
Did Flourine compare the European Forums where the game sold more to get an accurate representation of forums traffic in the hypothesis that the game forums are dying?
Or did you decide to think that because Flourine says the "game forums" are dying you would conveniently forgot to admit those two words in the topic title... therefore being misleading again.
Ummm how do posts within a game's official forums relate at all to the traffic on general gaming sites? All that post said was that forum traffic on AoC was down 95%. That's a major loss of traffic and considering only people who have accounts can post there reflects on their subscription numbers.
How dare you question AmazingAvery....
he would never speak out without reading the post and understanding what it said.
And he would certainly never compare apples to oranges.
You sir, are a cad and a bounder for even suggestion that the "Age of Conan Correspondant" was wrong.
I hope you meant to be sarcastic with the post that was above yours. Either way, this made me lol.
A Massive Falling In Daily Traffic To EVERY Major Gaming Site Except mmorpg.com
Sarcasticgamer traffic is down by 30%, CheapAssGamer is down by 37%, GamePro is down by 25%, VGChartz is down by 30%, GameRankings is down by 46%, Gamasutra is down by 35%, and the list goes on.
Major gaming blogs, like Joystiq, seem to have the hardest hit to their traffic. Joystiq traffic is down 43%, Destructoid is down by 36%, and GoNintendo is down by 38%. The worst, however, is Kotaku, who has seen a falling in daily visitors by a whopping 49%.
Even the biggest of gaming sites is falling victim to the trend: Traffic to Gamespot.com has fallen by 29%, while IGN is down 33%, and 1UP is down by 26%.
Trend linked some how? who knows, just a thought..
Did Flourine compare the European Forums where the game sold more to get an accurate representation of forums traffic in the hypothesis that the game forums are dying?
Or did you decide to think that because Flourine says the "game forums" are dying you would conveniently forgot to admit those two words in the topic title... therefore being misleading again.
Ummm how do posts within a game's official forums relate at all to the traffic on general gaming sites? All that post said was that forum traffic on AoC was down 95%. That's a major loss of traffic and considering only people who have accounts can post there reflects on their subscription numbers.
The majority of people who visited the forums had tech issues which on the whole have now been resolved
The details are only for the US forums where there is a different trend to several multi language forums and type of player in the EU.
Just because you can not post doesn't mean to say you can't read the forums.
Initial hype plays a big part, from there on out there are guild forums, fansites such as here and TTH for example all have places to discuss specifics.
Just look at all the traffic to these forums the past few months.
Guild forums get busier and the game fleshes out and you talk specifics about GvG issues on your own turf as its a GvG game.
No one even knows those figures are legit either.
I am not doubting that people have stopped posting on the US forums and quite a few people left, therefore it goes hand in hand, does it not?
There are many reasons and factors. Picking the one you post about and with your purposefully not putting in the "game forums" same title as the quoted thread is misleading to say the least - and for me a grain of salt.
A Massive Falling In Daily Traffic To EVERY Major Gaming Site Except mmorpg.com
Sarcasticgamer traffic is down by 30%, CheapAssGamer is down by 37%, GamePro is down by 25%, VGChartz is down by 30%, GameRankings is down by 46%, Gamasutra is down by 35%, and the list goes on.
Major gaming blogs, like Joystiq, seem to have the hardest hit to their traffic. Joystiq traffic is down 43%, Destructoid is down by 36%, and GoNintendo is down by 38%. The worst, however, is Kotaku, who has seen a falling in daily visitors by a whopping 49%.
Even the biggest of gaming sites is falling victim to the trend: Traffic to Gamespot.com has fallen by 29%, while IGN is down 33%, and 1UP is down by 26%.
Trend linked some how? who knows, just a thought..
Did Flourine compare the European Forums where the game sold more to get an accurate representation of forums traffic in the hypothesis that the game forums are dying?
Or did you decide to think that because Flourine says the "game forums" are dying you would conveniently forgot to admit those two words in the topic title... therefore being misleading again.
Ummm how do posts within a game's official forums relate at all to the traffic on general gaming sites? All that post said was that forum traffic on AoC was down 95%. That's a major loss of traffic and considering only people who have accounts can post there reflects on their subscription numbers.
The majority of people who visited the forums had tech issues which on the whole have now been resolved
The details are only for the US forums where there is a different trend to several multi language forums and type of player in the EU.
Just because you can not post doesn't mean to say you can't read the forums.
Initial hype plays a big part, from there on out there are guild forums, fansites such as here and TTH for example all have places to discuss specifics.
Just look at all the traffic to these forums the past few months.
Guild forums get busier and the game fleshes out and you talk specifics about GvG issues on your own turf as its a GvG game.
No one even knows those figures are legit either.
I am not doubting that people have stopped posting on the US forums and quite a few people left, therefore it goes hand in hand, does it not?
There are many reasons and factors. Picking the one you post about and with your purposefully not putting in the "game forums" same title as the quoted thread is misleading to say the least - and for me a grain of salt.
What? You are rambling now. Read what you are saying...seriously:
#1: If people were having "tech issues" visiting the forums" that means the situation is even worse. Because despite the forums being "fixed" the population of people posting on the General Forums has dropped off substantively. Did you even read the numbers?
For the first 900 pages the average turnaround time for 15 posts was 40 minutes. It is now 1200 minutes. That's pretty brutal.
#2: Are you claiming that the US forums are the only ones experiencing this type of attrition? Prove it the way the OP on the AoC official forums did. Please.
#3: Why would being able to read the forums matter? The numbers relate to the number of postings...not the number of views.
#4: Funny I'm viewing the WoW forums and they dont have the same dropoff of general forum use...how can you explain that? You have no basis to assume that forum use decreases over time...the numbers showed that up until July forum usage was very solid. Only in August and in September did it radically drop.
#5: If those figures aren't legit the method is pretty simple...it's not like he is privy to the data. Go calculate it and double check yourself if you dont believe them.
That takes care of that.
A Massive Falling In Daily Traffic To EVERY Major Gaming Site Except mmorpg.com
Sarcasticgamer traffic is down by 30%, CheapAssGamer is down by 37%, GamePro is down by 25%, VGChartz is down by 30%, GameRankings is down by 46%, Gamasutra is down by 35%, and the list goes on.
Major gaming blogs, like Joystiq, seem to have the hardest hit to their traffic. Joystiq traffic is down 43%, Destructoid is down by 36%, and GoNintendo is down by 38%. The worst, however, is Kotaku, who has seen a falling in daily visitors by a whopping 49%.
Even the biggest of gaming sites is falling victim to the trend: Traffic to Gamespot.com has fallen by 29%, while IGN is down 33%, and 1UP is down by 26%.
Trend linked some how? who knows, just a thought..
Did Flourine compare the European Forums where the game sold more to get an accurate representation of forums traffic in the hypothesis that the game forums are dying?
Or did you decide to think that because Flourine says the "game forums" are dying you would conveniently forgot to admit those two words in the topic title... therefore being misleading again.
Ummm how do posts within a game's official forums relate at all to the traffic on general gaming sites? All that post said was that forum traffic on AoC was down 95%. That's a major loss of traffic and considering only people who have accounts can post there reflects on their subscription numbers.
You forget to mention that your trend can tell us so many things besides what YOU WANT it to tell us. The forum activity decline could be related to any of the below (first one being your only option):
1. Game is in decline (but in that case Xfire wouldn't be stable).
2. People are much more happy now. When I read some of the old posts on the AoC official forums most of them seemed to be, "Goodbye I quit posts" or "OMG, fix this imediately posts". AoC has according to some of the people that have been in from launch, had a tremendous performance and bug improvement over the last 1 to 2 months. Wouldn't it just be the most logical thing in the world that there would be less bitching over the forums as issues get resolved?
3. The hype is gone, people just play and funny less about on the forums. It's just like me, I recently started so I am kind of thrilled now and run about and post here and there. I will probably not do it that much 3 months from now
4. Any other thing you might think of.
The reason I say this is because my experience is totally fine populationwise and more inporatantly the same every time I log on. I hear some people in fact claim that population is increasing, which is the opposite of what you try to prove.. Last thing, at what point was low population on some servers and server merge defined as equivalent to failure? Does that mean AoC woun't be fun? Does that mean another recently launched MMO (WAR) with need for server merge is a failure? Probably not... This is the name of the game and these are natural cycles you will see between every hype like major upgrades (i.e DX10), Release to new geographical areas (like Russia/EEurope, Asia), Expansionpacks and so on. I gonna attach two links now that I don't want you to abuse in future trolling. But it first of all show that Age of Conan still has much higher traffic on it's forum than another recently launched MMO (AoC 0.006 versus WAR 0.003). Another thing I also would like to mention is that AoC show a much healthier decline in forum activity than WAR which obviously has lost more than 50% of it's forum activity over one sigle day that happened to coincide with end of free subscription month (very scary).
AoC: www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/forums.ageofconan.com
WAR: www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/warhammeralliance.com/forums
I am no fan of all these speculations back and forth of games. I really prefer to talk game above nonsens like what in my opinion OP posted and now I have posted. Anyway, if we really want to take it to this level you certainly also can argue that AoC seem much more healthy than some people belive.
My advice, ask yourself and others if they think the game is fun or what gamesystems they like/don't like, stop trying to be an oracle.
A Massive Falling In Daily Traffic To EVERY Major Gaming Site Except mmorpg.com
Sarcasticgamer traffic is down by 30%, CheapAssGamer is down by 37%, GamePro is down by 25%, VGChartz is down by 30%, GameRankings is down by 46%, Gamasutra is down by 35%, and the list goes on.
Major gaming blogs, like Joystiq, seem to have the hardest hit to their traffic. Joystiq traffic is down 43%, Destructoid is down by 36%, and GoNintendo is down by 38%. The worst, however, is Kotaku, who has seen a falling in daily visitors by a whopping 49%.
Even the biggest of gaming sites is falling victim to the trend: Traffic to Gamespot.com has fallen by 29%, while IGN is down 33%, and 1UP is down by 26%.
Trend linked some how? who knows, just a thought..
Did Flourine compare the European Forums where the game sold more to get an accurate representation of forums traffic in the hypothesis that the game forums are dying?
Or did you decide to think that because Flourine says the "game forums" are dying you would conveniently forgot to admit those two words in the topic title... therefore being misleading again.
Ummm how do posts within a game's official forums relate at all to the traffic on general gaming sites? All that post said was that forum traffic on AoC was down 95%. That's a major loss of traffic and considering only people who have accounts can post there reflects on their subscription numbers.
The majority of people who visited the forums had tech issues which on the whole have now been resolved
The details are only for the US forums where there is a different trend to several multi language forums and type of player in the EU.
Just because you can not post doesn't mean to say you can't read the forums.
Initial hype plays a big part, from there on out there are guild forums, fansites such as here and TTH for example all have places to discuss specifics.
Just look at all the traffic to these forums the past few months.
Guild forums get busier and the game fleshes out and you talk specifics about GvG issues on your own turf as its a GvG game.
No one even knows those figures are legit either.
I am not doubting that people have stopped posting on the US forums and quite a few people left, therefore it goes hand in hand, does it not?
There are many reasons and factors. Picking the one you post about and with your purposefully not putting in the "game forums" same title as the quoted thread is misleading to say the least - and for me a grain of salt.
What? You are rambling now. Read what you are saying...seriously:
#1: If people were having "tech issues" visiting the forums" that means the situation is even worse. Because despite the forums being "fixed" the population of people posting on the General Forums has dropped off substantively. Did you even read the numbers?
For the first 900 pages the average turnaround time for 15 posts was 40 minutes. It is now 1200 minutes. That's pretty brutal.
#2: Are you claiming that the US forums are the only ones experiencing this type of attrition? Prove it the way the OP on the AoC official forums did. Please.
#3: Why would being able to read the forums matter? The numbers relate to the number of postings...not the number of views.
#4: Funny I'm viewing the WoW forums and they dont have the same dropoff of general forum use...how can you explain that? You have no basis to assume that forum use decreases over time...the numbers showed that up until July forum usage was very solid. Only in August and in September did it radically drop.
#5: If those figures aren't legit the method is pretty simple...it's not like he is privy to the data. Go calculate it and double check yourself if you dont believe them.
That takes care of that.
Sorry if you can't comprehend the points I laid out.
Your simply saying that some guy potentially pulled some stats out of his hat in relation to the US forum posting count and deem that a worthy indicator that the game is dying - I beg to differ.
A lot of people who had technical issues came to the forum for support and most likely there posted in general, as a lot of issues have been resolved they might not of visited so much.
General forums are not server specific forums where things could of been posted in instead, as other sites and guild forums.
I am looking at the bigger picture where there are lots of variables where this is concentrated on one part and not the whole. If you want to bring info in the same format for the EU forums then go ahead its still a waste of time.
This game is not WoW.
Again a measurement of general forum popularity is not an indication of the whole forum and neither an accurate indication of the the game itself. What about games that don't have official forums? To be totally accurate you would have to go around a large percentage of sites like this and other game site forums a long with guild forums. Every single bit of info relates. Trends of players are different from one another such as posting habits, people could be posting elsewhere such as test forums. Those types of specific posts could possibly been talked about on many other boards people are privvy to.
You see you cross forum posted a link which might of been discussed before elsewhere and therefore people aren't going to talk about it twice (this relates to any type of cross forum post)
The links to gaming sites I have shown, show a drop of in visitations across the board in all areas of gaming.
Do you always get your shopping from the same place every week or are there a variety of stores you go to? Same with everything in everyday life like, Gas, books, public transport, purchasing games.
Tastes change. Forums posting is not indicative of popularity in game, especially when conversation can be spread in many different places.