What I find stupid is these people saying that because AION will not Break The Mold that its not going to be good. Is Diabo 3 going to break the mold? Is Starcraft 2 going to break the mold? What about Call Of Duty 5 or Resistance 2, Halo 3 or Grand Theft Auto 4? All these games are games that are not Breaking The Mold but all of them are or will be kick ass games that people love. If you know AION is not going to Break The Mold then why are you here? Why not go to the forum of a game that nobody has ever heard of and nobody cares about and hope it turns out to be what you want. I for one am not looking for to Break The Mold. I am more than happy with what I am playing now and am glad that AION is going to be the game that it is.
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For the above, you're confusing a Blizzard fan with an MMO in general fan. WoW got huge as fast as it did because it pulled a gazallion people off of Battle.net who were bored of Diablo II and Starcraft. Starcraft II and Dialbo III will be huge because they're from Blizzard. There's also a much-better-than-average chance they'll be good games but they could be lousy and they'd still sell millions of copies (though, I've seen, the first lousy product a company makes usually costs it it's legions of rabid fans and they have to go back to working for sales like everyone else).
As for Aion, I've been WoW free for over a year now. I'll still try Aion and sub if I like it. I don't really give a damn what 11 million WoW subscribers do with their money, unless for some reason they all decide to give it to me - the whole "It's from Asia so it will suck" seems to be a straw man arguement to me - what sucks for you might be hella fun for me.
I could care less about whether a game is Blizzard, Sony or Microsoft. I am talking about games in General. People that are looking for the new type MMO just need to sit back and wait for it and stop bashing other MMOs because they are not the Mold Breaker that they are looking for.
Please read before you post. If you disagree with me that's fine, but i'd rather not have to read baseless arguements from fanbois. Aion has gone pretty much unnoticed for the last couple of years due to the shadows that AoC and WAR have cast over it, and the general presumption that all MMOs that come out of Asia are straight-up grinds with little or no quests or end-game content. However, since the very beginning Aion has been marketed by NCSoft as the MMO that is going to break this stereotype and appeal to gamers in all areas of the world. These claims were met with understandable skepticism, myself included. Though there might have been a good reason for this in the past (lack of information on the game), in the present I can't see how anybody can still think of Aion as generic Korean garbage. Previews, hands-on experiences, and testaments from Korean beta testers have all become available, and the general consensus is that the game has by far exceeded expectations.
I think the only ones that are not enthused by Aion release are the ones that have not done research on the game and has been infected by stereotypical posts that call all asian games grinders. Honestly not to sound selfish but I don't mind these people at all; Why? because when I start playing I will probably be close to max lvl by the time they catch on to what kind of game it really is, so when they do start playing they will be the ones falling victim to my assasins blade.
Seriously though, If you havent researched Aion then you would also be stereootyping the game like many others are. I have been watching this game over a year now and have countless evidence that it is absolutly NOT a grinder. I absolutly hate grinders. I played FFXI for 4 years (still have account but don't play) and I think if any game is a grinder it would be that one and believe me, the reviews separate the concept of both games by far. Aion (They say) will be for both hardcore and casual players, if you play twice a week vs someone playing 6.5 days a week (if they shower , eat and poop) you can still attain to high standards with your character, I would post everything I have collected on Aion but that would be a post too long for my patience, maybe when I'm not at work
Something important to keep in mind too, Aion is NCsoft's Ace in the hole at this point, if it succeeds it will be their new flagship but if it fails, what happens to NCsoft? They've already suffered huge losses, first Auto Assault, though that was okay, and then a massive blow from Tabula Rasa.
Honestly if Aion 'fails' and doesn't bring in what was spent on it, at the least, does Ncsoft go down? Do all their EU/US offices get closed? I'm pretty sure they will try their very best to make this game so near perfection it won't fail.
Otherwise may we expect Sony to buy GW, Aion and Tabula Rasa.... lol....
Something important to keep in mind too, Aion is NCsoft's Ace in the hole at this point, if it succeeds it will be their new flagship but if it fails, what happens to NCsoft? They've already suffered huge losses, first Auto Assault, though that was okay, and then a massive blow from Tabula Rasa. Honestly if Aion 'fails' and doesn't bring in what was spent on it, at the least, does Ncsoft go down? Do all their EU/US offices get closed? I'm pretty sure they will try their very best to make this game so near perfection it won't fail. Otherwise may we expect Sony to buy GW, Aion and Tabula Rasa.... lol....
I never really thought what would happen if they failed but now that you mention it, yeah it probably would spell major trouble while blizzard continues to eat them and everyone else alive with W.o.W.
I will not cancell W.o.W. completly because i like the game but I think you are right, they are taking the time to make this perfect, this is about 4 years in the making. If it is not worth four years of preparation I think they better pack it up. However; it certainly seems more than promising.
Something important to keep in mind too, Aion is NCsoft's Ace in the hole at this point, if it succeeds it will be their new flagship but if it fails, what happens to NCsoft? They've already suffered huge losses, first Auto Assault, though that was okay, and then a massive blow from Tabula Rasa. Honestly if Aion 'fails' and doesn't bring in what was spent on it, at the least, does Ncsoft go down? Do all their EU/US offices get closed? I'm pretty sure they will try their very best to make this game so near perfection it won't fail. Otherwise may we expect Sony to buy GW, Aion and Tabula Rasa.... lol....
Ncsoft Korea will be fine, they make allot of money from L and L2 ...i mean L still has over a million paying active subs.
Something important to keep in mind too, Aion is NCsoft's Ace in the hole at this point, if it succeeds it will be their new flagship but if it fails, what happens to NCsoft? They've already suffered huge losses, first Auto Assault, though that was okay, and then a massive blow from Tabula Rasa. Honestly if Aion 'fails' and doesn't bring in what was spent on it, at the least, does Ncsoft go down? Do all their EU/US offices get closed? I'm pretty sure they will try their very best to make this game so near perfection it won't fail. Otherwise may we expect Sony to buy GW, Aion and Tabula Rasa.... lol....
Its true they lost a boat load with TR. Mostly because they got in bed with Mr. Garriott and he had his way in regards to TR's direction. Mr. Garriott got what he wanted from NCSoft > He sold his stock in the company and made an est of $30 mil. NCSoft Got what they wanted >It was through Richard's deep industry connections, NC were able to make connections with the 'City of Heroes' team, and through that, with the ArenaNet guys." The people from ArenaNet where placed in charge of NCSoft West. And Mr. Garriott was kicked to the curb soon after.
BTW: The Aion servers are filling up fast over in korea, so that should help there bank account.
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Please read before you post. If you disagree with me that's fine, but i'd rather not have to read baseless arguements from fanbois. Aion has gone pretty much unnoticed for the last couple of years due to the shadows that AoC and WAR have cast over it, and the general presumption that all MMOs that come out of Asia are straight-up grinds with little or no quests or end-game content. However, since the very beginning Aion has been marketed by NCSoft as the MMO that is going to break this stereotype and appeal to gamers in all areas of the world. These claims were met with understandable skepticism, myself included. Though there might have been a good reason for this in the past (lack of information on the game), in the present I can't see how anybody can still think of Aion as generic Korean garbage. Previews, hands-on experiences, and testaments from Korean beta testers have all become available, and the general consensus is that the game has by far exceeded expectations.
I think the only ones that are not enthused by Aion release are the ones that have not done research on the game and has been infected by stereotypical posts that call all asian games grinders. Honestly not to sound selfish but I don't mind these people at all; Why? because when I start playing I will probably be close to max lvl by the time they catch on to what kind of game it really is, so when they do start playing they will be the ones falling victim to my assasins blade.
Seriously though, If you havent researched Aion then you would also be stereootyping the game like many others are. I have been watching this game over a year now and have countless evidence that it is absolutly NOT a grinder. I absolutly hate grinders. I played FFXI for 4 years (still have account but don't play) and I think if any game is a grinder it would be that one and believe me, the reviews separate the concept of both games by far. Aion (They say) will be for both hardcore and casual players, if you play twice a week vs someone playing 6.5 days a week (if they shower , eat and poop) you can still attain to high standards with your character, I would post everything I have collected on Aion but that would be a post too long for my patience, maybe when I'm not at work
I totally agree with you, when these idiots find out how wrong they were i'll rub it in their faces
I have no expectation of the game what so ever but I sure hope it will be good, because it looks and sounds amazing!
Design like Lineage 2 (YEY!) and controls similar to everyones favourite, WoW (YEY!). If they just manage to keep the grinding down a bit and with some cool story and quests, I might actually like this game
AION IS GONNA BE DA SUXORZ! OMG ITS NOT WOW SO IT SUX! AOC IS BETTER CAUSE ITS NOT KOREAN! OMG!
JK lol
Like many other asian MMOs it does have very flashy explosive animations that may or may not be the cause of 50,000 cases of epilepsy. However, i am under the impression that there will be an option to turn off said animations. Can't remember where I read it, but I'm fairly positive I picked up up from Aionsource (the biggest english aion fan site) and I'm fairly sure that it was approved by Ayase. So thats moot.
Asian style, anime people? The advanced character building system is one of the things I am most excited for in Aion and justbecause a lot of the screenshots and images from Aion have a distinct "Anime" feel to them does not mean you have to make an anime looking character. In fact, one of the members of Aionsource is planning on making a gollum character when he starts playing and with the sheer number of options you have to build your character, there is no doubt in my mind that he could make something fairly close to what gollum looked like in the LoTR trilogy.
As far as grinder goes, there isn't an MMO with grinding out there. And, as long as a game has levels, there's going to be grinding... period. The question isn't "How much" grinding, but is the grinding gonna be interesting enough that I forget that I'm grinding and just can enjoy the game? That's something that remains to be seen for aion. But with REAL story driven quests with cutscenes and (IMO) the beautiful scenery and graphics, I know that the grind for me won't get boring anytime soon.
Also, to all you WoW fanboys. WoW pvp is uber softcore. Like pvp eh? Go play EVE...
And personally i'd rather play Aion than a game "peopled by grotesquely anthropomorphic characters clad in primary colored fetish wear."
But... I have indeed played WoW. So you cant say I havent. lvl 70 BE deep fire spec mage, 45 BM Orc hunter.
It's almost 2010, and I am just not wiling to tolerate clunky graphics while being told that "gameplay is more important than graphics". That excuse won't wash with me any more. I expect my games to have both good graphics and good gameplay. -Quote Isoke(VN boards)
12 servers for korean obt are full (avg. 5k per server) They just opened the 13th server and its filling up fast.
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The graphic animations alone make me want to vomit.When will they ever lose this penny arcade feel they put into there games?They need to realize you need at least 20 frame ani's to make a decent looking animation.There is no enjoyment at all watching there animations because you can't even see them,there so ridiculously fast. The game and it's models look like Lineage all over again,only there throwing in flying as a niche tactic to lure in the mindless players.Same looking weapons/armor and even the player models look the same. I got tired of watching scripted movies of the game,they must be afraid to release actual game footage.That ridiculous looking armor is still same old same old,they just can't change anything they do in there games.They are so set in there ways,there is very little hope of them ever releasing anything that isn't same old re done Lineage crap.I see no advancement in gaming here at all,as a matter of fact it looks like the exact same unreal engine Lineage was built on. I hear a lot of ramblings about hands on trials by press and such.Well i just finished a couple weeks ago playing Atlantica,sure initially becuase it is a fresh game,it comes off as looking great and i wanted more.After putting in several hours and a week of gameplay you soon realize ,it's nothing but the same old boring crap.This game will be like playing a Lineage expansion pack. Have they at least got past the point of making static buildings with there quest NPC's standing in front of non working doors?I mean geesh we need something that looks a tad better than playing Grand Theft Auto.Is there actual CONTENT? or do you just log in and kill stuff?i can get that in F2P games.What EXACTLY does AION bring to the table that will make people quit another game ?What new ideas are they bringing to the table if any?
You kinda got off track with the Atlantica game play ramble....I don't know what that has to do with anything here.....You can also find a quest giver at a farm house, but your gonna have to hunt him down because he will be out in his fields or he could be out fighting near by monsters... But hay, this game is not your cup of tea and thats cool. Have fun on your quest to find a game you like. I hope you find one because I have.
Simple...
He's already leaped to his conclusions (ignorant and unsupported as they are... but that's besides the point). All he needs to do is find things to "support" them. And since he has nothing tangible to go on, *anything* will do.
It's just like people claiming any new MMO that comes out is a "WoW clone" when they know nothing about it, simply because "its interface looks similar".
I knew not to take his post seriously for one simple thing... He describes any part of the game that he doesn't personally like as a though it's a damning, glaring flaw. He doesn't like the animation style, therefor there's "something wrong with it". He doesn't like the art style, therefor it's indicative of lacking design skills, etc...
It's the typical thing you see all the time. Many posters aren't content to merely say "I'm just not a fan of that art or animation style, so it doesn't appeal to me". Oh no. That leaves room for differing opinions they'd have to respect. So instead, it's "I don't like the art style, therefor it sucks and needs to be improved on".
It's basically ego-stroking.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
I wasn't trying to "market" the game, I just find it hard to believe that so few people take the game seriously after seeing all of the amazing beta footage that has come out recently. I didn't list reasons why it won't be a grinder, because we all know how devs can lie and game footage can be rigged to prove a point. The websites I listed have actually played the game through a few levels, which is the best way to verify what the developers have been marketing. Obviously they've been keeping their promises. I have no problem with people that don't like the artstlye or the combat animations etc., that's fine. I'm just curious how people can still drag the game through the dirt when everyone who's played it loved it. Once again, sorry if the post came off as "viral marketing".
All of this STILL doesn't explain why it isn't another Asian grinder. All I've seen is a copy/paste of general remarks some sites made about the game. It doesn't say anything at all about the game systems used.
Whether or not a game is a "grind" is very much up to the player.
Bingo. Couldn't have summed it up better, Sovrath.
That's all it comes down to - how the individual chooses to play the game.
If you approach it as a grind, that's what it's going to be... a grind.
9/10 times that I've seen people complain about a game being a grind-fest, I found that they spent the majority of their time... you guessed it... grinding levels.
You get out what you put in.
"If you just step away for a sec you will clearly see all the pot holes in the road, and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Personally I just don't like the style of asian mmorpgs. I do not like high gloss, ridiculously over the top, fairy tale, disney-esque games. Just look at this: uk.youtube.com/watch It makes me want to chunder.
Man! Thats not a game - thats a film! I have never bothered with Aion, but after seeing that- and the unique class abilities shown in just BETA footage - heck I want to play that thing!! But I assume its not F2P..... so... hmm.... trial time.....
&$@* flying mount. It kill pvp world. I wont play that game because i'm a pvper. Darkfall online for life.
For life or until you see that the game suks then you will be running off to mortal online. I'm a pvper also and I want a game engine that does not suk.
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its going to be a great game i just wish they would do what the chronicles of spellborn and darkfall are doin that would hands down make it the best upcoming game if they added the aiming your attacks and real time dodging ect. and they still could do it so i really hope they do because i really wanna play tcos and i really wanna play aion but i can only pay for one lol
Anyways for all you people that dont like it because it was originaly made in asia thats fucked up its a great game definatley better than all f the bullshit games (cept for war and the ones coming out like drakfalll, tcos, runes of magic..)out now and its also going (so ive heard )to be the most graphical mmo ever made and yes that means better graphics than aoc even lol
so research your shit before you start bitching about o its a grindfest ect.
&$@* flying mount. It kill pvp world. I wont play that game because i'm a pvper. Darkfall online for life.
For life or until you see that the game suks then you will be running off to mortal online. I'm a pvper also and I want a game engine that does not suk.
He/she isn't a DFO fan. Its just a troll trying to feed a war between both communities.
its going to be a great game i just wish they would do what the chronicles of spellborn and darkfall are doin that would hands down make it the best upcoming game if they added the aiming your attacks and real time dodging ect. and they still could do it so i really hope they do because i really wanna play tcos and i really wanna play aion but i can only pay for one lol Anyways for all you people that dont like it because it was originaly made in asia thats fucked up its a great game definatley better than all f the bullshit games (cept for war and the ones coming out like drakfalll, tcos, runes of magic..)out now and its also going (so ive heard )to be the most graphical mmo ever made and yes that means better graphics than aoc even lol so research your shit before you start bitching about o its a grindfest ect.
Dodging - sure they MIGHT be able to code it in so if you move just before an attack hits it misses. MAYBE. But fitting in an aiming system would be almost impossible. The combat in aion is very different to many other mmos such as darkfall and tcos where you just stand there, maybe moving around while attacking. You need to remember that the attack moves are HEAVILY animated. Some attacks involve flips through the air, cartwheels etc. Try aiming with that lol.
BTW, I agree on the anti predudice stuff.
My comment to these Predudice idiots:
Seriously if you think aion will suck because it is made by koreans then honestly you can just go **** yourself. I - and probably the entire aion community is with me on this - do not want people like you in the game anyway.
its going to be a great game i just wish they would do what the chronicles of spellborn and darkfall are doin that would hands down make it the best upcoming game if they added the aiming your attacks and real time dodging ect. and they still could do it so i really hope they do because i really wanna play tcos and i really wanna play aion but i can only pay for one lol Anyways for all you people that dont like it because it was originaly made in asia thats fucked up its a great game definatley better than all f the bullshit games (cept for war and the ones coming out like drakfalll, tcos, runes of magic..)out now and its also going (so ive heard )to be the most graphical mmo ever made and yes that means better graphics than aoc even lol so research your shit before you start bitching about o its a grindfest ect.
Dodging - sure they MIGHT be able to code it in so if you move just before an attack hits it misses. MAYBE. But fitting in an aiming system would be almost impossible. The combat in aion is very different to many other mmos such as darkfall and tcos where you just stand there, maybe moving around while attacking. You need to remember that the attack moves are HEAVILY animated. Some attacks involve flips through the air, cartwheels etc. Try aiming with that lol.
BTW, I agree on the anti predudice stuff.
My comment to these Predudice idiots:
Seriously if you think aion will suck because it is made by koreans then honestly you can just go **** yourself. I - and probably the entire aion community is with me on this - do not want people like you in the game anyway.
hmm yea i didnt think about those effects but u have to admit if they did do the aiming thing somehow it would make the game so much better than its already going to be and darkfall would look like nothing compared to it i think if they did...
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For the above, you're confusing a Blizzard fan with an MMO in general fan. WoW got huge as fast as it did because it pulled a gazallion people off of Battle.net who were bored of Diablo II and Starcraft. Starcraft II and Dialbo III will be huge because they're from Blizzard. There's also a much-better-than-average chance they'll be good games but they could be lousy and they'd still sell millions of copies (though, I've seen, the first lousy product a company makes usually costs it it's legions of rabid fans and they have to go back to working for sales like everyone else).
As for Aion, I've been WoW free for over a year now. I'll still try Aion and sub if I like it. I don't really give a damn what 11 million WoW subscribers do with their money, unless for some reason they all decide to give it to me - the whole "It's from Asia so it will suck" seems to be a straw man arguement to me - what sucks for you might be hella fun for me.
I could care less about whether a game is Blizzard, Sony or Microsoft. I am talking about games in General. People that are looking for the new type MMO just need to sit back and wait for it and stop bashing other MMOs because they are not the Mold Breaker that they are looking for.
I think the only ones that are not enthused by Aion release are the ones that have not done research on the game and has been infected by stereotypical posts that call all asian games grinders. Honestly not to sound selfish but I don't mind these people at all; Why? because when I start playing I will probably be close to max lvl by the time they catch on to what kind of game it really is, so when they do start playing they will be the ones falling victim to my assasins blade.
Seriously though, If you havent researched Aion then you would also be stereootyping the game like many others are. I have been watching this game over a year now and have countless evidence that it is absolutly NOT a grinder. I absolutly hate grinders. I played FFXI for 4 years (still have account but don't play) and I think if any game is a grinder it would be that one and believe me, the reviews separate the concept of both games by far. Aion (They say) will be for both hardcore and casual players, if you play twice a week vs someone playing 6.5 days a week (if they shower , eat and poop) you can still attain to high standards with your character, I would post everything I have collected on Aion but that would be a post too long for my patience, maybe when I'm not at work
Something important to keep in mind too, Aion is NCsoft's Ace in the hole at this point, if it succeeds it will be their new flagship but if it fails, what happens to NCsoft? They've already suffered huge losses, first Auto Assault, though that was okay, and then a massive blow from Tabula Rasa.
Honestly if Aion 'fails' and doesn't bring in what was spent on it, at the least, does Ncsoft go down? Do all their EU/US offices get closed? I'm pretty sure they will try their very best to make this game so near perfection it won't fail.
Otherwise may we expect Sony to buy GW, Aion and Tabula Rasa.... lol....
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I never really thought what would happen if they failed but now that you mention it, yeah it probably would spell major trouble while blizzard continues to eat them and everyone else alive with W.o.W.
I will not cancell W.o.W. completly because i like the game but I think you are right, they are taking the time to make this perfect, this is about 4 years in the making. If it is not worth four years of preparation I think they better pack it up. However; it certainly seems more than promising.
Ncsoft Korea will be fine, they make allot of money from L and L2 ...i mean L still has over a million paying active subs.
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Its true they lost a boat load with TR. Mostly because they got in bed with Mr. Garriott and he had his way in regards to TR's direction. Mr. Garriott got what he wanted from NCSoft > He sold his stock in the company and made an est of $30 mil. NCSoft Got what they wanted >It was through Richard's deep industry connections, NC were able to make connections with the 'City of Heroes' team, and through that, with the ArenaNet guys." The people from ArenaNet where placed in charge of NCSoft West. And Mr. Garriott was kicked to the curb soon after.
BTW: The Aion servers are filling up fast over in korea, so that should help there bank account.
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I think the only ones that are not enthused by Aion release are the ones that have not done research on the game and has been infected by stereotypical posts that call all asian games grinders. Honestly not to sound selfish but I don't mind these people at all; Why? because when I start playing I will probably be close to max lvl by the time they catch on to what kind of game it really is, so when they do start playing they will be the ones falling victim to my assasins blade.
Seriously though, If you havent researched Aion then you would also be stereootyping the game like many others are. I have been watching this game over a year now and have countless evidence that it is absolutly NOT a grinder. I absolutly hate grinders. I played FFXI for 4 years (still have account but don't play) and I think if any game is a grinder it would be that one and believe me, the reviews separate the concept of both games by far. Aion (They say) will be for both hardcore and casual players, if you play twice a week vs someone playing 6.5 days a week (if they shower , eat and poop) you can still attain to high standards with your character, I would post everything I have collected on Aion but that would be a post too long for my patience, maybe when I'm not at work
I totally agree with you, when these idiots find out how wrong they were i'll rub it in their faces
I have no expectation of the game what so ever but I sure hope it will be good, because it looks and sounds amazing!
Design like Lineage 2 (YEY!) and controls similar to everyones favourite, WoW (YEY!). If they just manage to keep the grinding down a bit and with some cool story and quests, I might actually like this game
AION IS GONNA BE DA SUXORZ! OMG ITS NOT WOW SO IT SUX! AOC IS BETTER CAUSE ITS NOT KOREAN! OMG!
JK lol
Like many other asian MMOs it does have very flashy explosive animations that may or may not be the cause of 50,000 cases of epilepsy. However, i am under the impression that there will be an option to turn off said animations. Can't remember where I read it, but I'm fairly positive I picked up up from Aionsource (the biggest english aion fan site) and I'm fairly sure that it was approved by Ayase. So thats moot.
Asian style, anime people? The advanced character building system is one of the things I am most excited for in Aion and justbecause a lot of the screenshots and images from Aion have a distinct "Anime" feel to them does not mean you have to make an anime looking character. In fact, one of the members of Aionsource is planning on making a gollum character when he starts playing and with the sheer number of options you have to build your character, there is no doubt in my mind that he could make something fairly close to what gollum looked like in the LoTR trilogy.
As far as grinder goes, there isn't an MMO with grinding out there. And, as long as a game has levels, there's going to be grinding... period. The question isn't "How much" grinding, but is the grinding gonna be interesting enough that I forget that I'm grinding and just can enjoy the game? That's something that remains to be seen for aion. But with REAL story driven quests with cutscenes and (IMO) the beautiful scenery and graphics, I know that the grind for me won't get boring anytime soon.
Also, to all you WoW fanboys. WoW pvp is uber softcore. Like pvp eh? Go play EVE...
And personally i'd rather play Aion than a game "peopled by grotesquely anthropomorphic characters clad in primary colored fetish wear."
But... I have indeed played WoW. So you cant say I havent. lvl 70 BE deep fire spec mage, 45 BM Orc hunter.
It's almost 2010, and I am just not wiling to tolerate clunky graphics while being told that "gameplay is more important than graphics". That excuse won't wash with me any more. I expect my games to have both good graphics and good gameplay.
-Quote Isoke(VN boards)
I haven't researched much on this game, so i can't compare this to anything.
But, from what i see. This is gonna be a game that I'll be playing. If it impresses me, that's all that matters.
I put my 2 cents in. :P
lulz
12 servers for korean obt are full (avg. 5k per server) They just opened the 13th server and its filling up fast.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
&$@* flying mount. It kill pvp world. I wont play that game because i'm a pvper. Darkfall online for life.
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You can pvp in the air in Aion...but w/e have fun in darkfall.
There are no mounts at this time silly. And it's not FFA PvP, though there are bridges. So have fun in Darkfall.
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You kinda got off track with the Atlantica game play ramble....I don't know what that has to do with anything here.....You can also find a quest giver at a farm house, but your gonna have to hunt him down because he will be out in his fields or he could be out fighting near by monsters... But hay, this game is not your cup of tea and thats cool. Have fun on your quest to find a game you like. I hope you find one because I have.
Simple...
He's already leaped to his conclusions (ignorant and unsupported as they are... but that's besides the point). All he needs to do is find things to "support" them. And since he has nothing tangible to go on, *anything* will do.
It's just like people claiming any new MMO that comes out is a "WoW clone" when they know nothing about it, simply because "its interface looks similar".
I knew not to take his post seriously for one simple thing... He describes any part of the game that he doesn't personally like as a though it's a damning, glaring flaw. He doesn't like the animation style, therefor there's "something wrong with it". He doesn't like the art style, therefor it's indicative of lacking design skills, etc...
It's the typical thing you see all the time. Many posters aren't content to merely say "I'm just not a fan of that art or animation style, so it doesn't appeal to me". Oh no. That leaves room for differing opinions they'd have to respect. So instead, it's "I don't like the art style, therefor it sucks and needs to be improved on".
It's basically ego-stroking.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
All of this STILL doesn't explain why it isn't another Asian grinder. All I've seen is a copy/paste of general remarks some sites made about the game. It doesn't say anything at all about the game systems used.
Whether or not a game is a "grind" is very much up to the player.
Bingo. Couldn't have summed it up better, Sovrath.
That's all it comes down to - how the individual chooses to play the game.
If you approach it as a grind, that's what it's going to be... a grind.
9/10 times that I've seen people complain about a game being a grind-fest, I found that they spent the majority of their time... you guessed it... grinding levels.
You get out what you put in.
and the cash shop selling asphalt..." - Mimzel on F2P/Cash Shops
Man! Thats not a game - thats a film! I have never bothered with Aion, but after seeing that- and the unique class abilities shown in just BETA footage - heck I want to play that thing!! But I assume its not F2P..... so... hmm.... trial time.....
Lol it seems the latest excuse for darkfall fanboys to dehype aion is now not because it is asian, but it targets too young an audiance lol.
lol @ the guy pretending he was invited to the open beta.
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For life or until you see that the game suks then you will be running off to mortal online. I'm a pvper also and I want a game engine that does not suk.
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
&$@* flying airplanes. It kill IRL world. I wont live in IRL world because i'm a pvper. Darkfall online for life. <------ Corrected
sounds a lot better. lulz.
its going to be a great game i just wish they would do what the chronicles of spellborn and darkfall are doin that would hands down make it the best upcoming game if they added the aiming your attacks and real time dodging ect. and they still could do it so i really hope they do because i really wanna play tcos and i really wanna play aion but i can only pay for one
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Anyways for all you people that dont like it because it was originaly made in asia thats fucked up its a great game definatley better than all f the bullshit games (cept for war and the ones coming out like drakfalll, tcos, runes of magic..)out now and its also going (so ive heard )to be the most graphical mmo ever made and yes that means better graphics than aoc even lol
so research your shit before you start bitching about o its a grindfest ect.
For life or until you see that the game suks then you will be running off to mortal online. I'm a pvper also and I want a game engine that does not suk.
He/she isn't a DFO fan. Its just a troll trying to feed a war between both communities.
Dodging - sure they MIGHT be able to code it in so if you move just before an attack hits it misses. MAYBE. But fitting in an aiming system would be almost impossible. The combat in aion is very different to many other mmos such as darkfall and tcos where you just stand there, maybe moving around while attacking. You need to remember that the attack moves are HEAVILY animated. Some attacks involve flips through the air, cartwheels etc. Try aiming with that lol.
BTW, I agree on the anti predudice stuff.
My comment to these Predudice idiots:
Seriously if you think aion will suck because it is made by koreans then honestly you can just go **** yourself. I - and probably the entire aion community is with me on this - do not want people like you in the game anyway.
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Dodging - sure they MIGHT be able to code it in so if you move just before an attack hits it misses. MAYBE. But fitting in an aiming system would be almost impossible. The combat in aion is very different to many other mmos such as darkfall and tcos where you just stand there, maybe moving around while attacking. You need to remember that the attack moves are HEAVILY animated. Some attacks involve flips through the air, cartwheels etc. Try aiming with that lol.
BTW, I agree on the anti predudice stuff.
My comment to these Predudice idiots:
Seriously if you think aion will suck because it is made by koreans then honestly you can just go **** yourself. I - and probably the entire aion community is with me on this - do not want people like you in the game anyway.
hmm yea i didnt think about those effects but u have to admit if they did do the aiming thing somehow it would make the game so much better than its already going to be and darkfall would look like nothing compared to it i think if they did...
Aion graphically looks great but I want to know about the meat and bones of the game not just flashy graphics. Guess we will find out soon enough.