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New Global Warming Study: Ice Melt not due to Natural Causes
Sharajat
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www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/10/30/polar.warming/index.html
One of the report authors, Dr Alexey Karpechko told CNN: "In both cases the accelerations are not consistent with natural forcing, which means that natural forcing alone cannot produce such a warming. So in a sense, we can say conclusively that this [warming trend at the poles] is due to human influence."
Well the denial crowd has shrugged off worse blows than this, trundling on with an obstinate ignorance worthy of the 9/11 truthers, so I imagine this will barely make a dent, but it's still interesting.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
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This looming crisis provides us with opportunity to address our relationship wth the planet and make it so our activities have less impact on the planet, with new energy technologies that reduce emissions and are long term sustainable. They'll ultimately be less expensive and produce new jobs.
This is the only planet we've got; we can't just pack up and move 10 miles down the road like Springfield did when Homer mismanaged the waste disposal agency.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
This looming crisis provides us with opportunity to address our relationship wth the planet and make it so our activities have less impact on the planet, with new energy technologies that reduce emissions and are long term sustainable. They'll ultimately be less expensive and produce new jobs.
This is the only planet we've got; we can't just pack up and move 10 miles down the road like Springfield did when Homer mismanaged the waste disposal agency.
Actually, the planet could care less about having a relationship with us. When we become to much of a bother the planet will just eliminate us.
This looming crisis provides us with opportunity to address our relationship wth the planet and make it so our activities have less impact on the planet, with new energy technologies that reduce emissions and are long term sustainable. They'll ultimately be less expensive and produce new jobs.
This is the only planet we've got; we can't just pack up and move 10 miles down the road like Springfield did when Homer mismanaged the waste disposal agency.
Actually, the planet could care less about having a relationship with us. When we become to much of a bother the planet will just eliminate us.
You're very correct there. It's not nice to fool Mother Nature.
CH, Jedi, Commando, Smuggler, BH, Scout, Doctor, Chef, BE...yeah, lots of SWG time invested.
Once a denizen of Ahazi
Um, Most 9-11 truthers believe that global warming is a farce, and they have believed that for quite some time. Wake up, you seem to be the ignorant one.
I think MotherNature is Haveing a Hot Flash...
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
This is the main reason I'm in favor of Obama becoming president.
Airhead Palin doesn't even recognise the problem.
I'm not ignorant of the fact that 9/11 truthers believe a number of vastly stupid things.
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
Your not even american...
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
Your not even american...
Your actually not embracing of American values. Since when did America become Communist China and people cannot have freedom of choice? And how is it that you have abandoned all the founding fathers principles. You seem like a Tori in the days of the American Revolution......and those who speak out are the Americans!
Your not even american...
Your actually not embracing of American values. Since when did America become Communist China and people cannot have freedom of choice? And how is it that you have abandoned all the founding fathers principles. You seem like a Tori in the days of the American Revolution......and those who speak out are the Americans!
You're going to need superman like strength to get that foot out of your mouth.
Look at Waterlily's account info...
"The greatest trick the devil played on humanity in the 20th century was convincing them that he didn't exist." (Paraphrasing) C.S. Lewis
"If a mother can kill her own child, what is left before I kill you and you kill me?" -Mother Teresa when talking about abortion after accepting the Nobel Peace Prize in 1979
Your not even american...
No, but how you use your energy and take care of the planet will affect me.
The US consumes the most energy / capita:
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/ene_ele_con-energy-electricity-consumption_percap
I'm not ignorant of the fact that 9/11 truthers believe a number of vastly stupid things.
i feel sorry for people like you. 9-11 was an inside job, the science proves it. so does events like the gulf of tonken, operation northwood, and more. your just too scared to face reality.
as far as global warming, its also a myth. In fact the last 5 years we are cooling. They dont even call it global warming anymore, its now "climate change" which covers any fluctuation.
The entire solar system was warming up from 1990ish to 2003. Amazing that my SUV was able to warm up Mars, Pluto, etc. Since then were cooling. China had its coolest winter in 100 years.
Thats because the sun is having less solar flares. Here's an article that shows that the ice sheets are growing in fact.
http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Antarctic_Ice_Sheet.htm
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2006/3315greenland_ice.html
a good one from 31,000 scientist who say global warming is a myth...
http://www.aim.org/briefing/31000-signatures-prove-no-consensus-about-global-warming
“World temperatures fluctuate all the time,” said Robinson. “The temperature of the Earth has risen many times, far more times than carbon dioxide could drive it. There is no experimental evidence that humans are changing the environment…”
In the 1970's we were told an Ice Age was coming. There was articles and such speculating on how we could warm the planet up to avoid it. I remember studies talking about putting a giant solar panel in space to increase sunlight.
I really feel sorry for the ignorant masses that believe this garbage. They'll be the ones to happily pay the world carbon tax imposed on us. Your just paying to enslave yourselves people. wake up
unfortunately most people are victims of their own ignorance and are totally unaware of it. Its like trying to tell a bi-polar person to take their meds. years of flouride and a corporate run education system have left millions lacking the intelligence to see the shackles on their wrists.
What kinda sites are you using to prove your point?
A picture from a crane in some snow to prove the ice caps are not melting?
Are you in preschool? Shit.
They are melting:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn9717&feedId=online-news_rss20
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4228411.stm
And learn to use respectable resources if you're gonna quote somebody.
there are a hundred links that show ice sheets growing. I just picked 2. but enjoy paying that carbon tax little slave
I'm not ignorant of the fact that 9/11 truthers believe a number of vastly stupid things.
i feel sorry for people like you. 9-11 was an inside job, the science proves it. so does events like the gulf of tonken, operation northwood, and more. your just too scared to face reality.
Oh hey look, we have a 9/11 thread on the front page. Take it there. I predict rapid backpeddling as you realize that you're dealing with an engineer who actually knows what the hell they're talking about.
as far as global warming, its also a myth. In fact the last 5 years we are cooling. They dont even call it global warming anymore, its now "climate change" which covers any fluctuation.
It's always been climate change.
The entire solar system was warming up from 1990ish to 2003. Amazing that my SUV was able to warm up Mars, Pluto, etc. Since then were cooling. China had its coolest winter in 100 years.
Hilariously, your suggestion is that the sun is outputting more energy and that is causing global warming. Rather than observing other planets, I suggest you observe, say, the sun.
Wow, doesn't track with Global Warming at all. Good game.
Thats because the sun is having less solar flares. Here's an article that shows that the ice sheets are growing in fact.
http://www.iceagenow.com/Growing_Antarctic_Ice_Sheet.htm
http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2006/3315greenland_ice.html
Ah, the "Hope your audience is retards" method of argument writing.
Here's what I mean (from the article):
The increases in Greenland ice and Antarctic sea ice are outweighed, however, by a slight decrease in the ice buildup on the Antarctic land mass.
Damn, almost like the ice is melting and sliding into the oceans around Greenland and Antarctica. Nah. Total coincidence that the two numbers are lining up like that...
a good one from 31,000 scientist who say global warming is a myth...
http://www.aim.org/briefing/31000-signatures-prove-no-consensus-about-global-warming
You're dragging that joke up again? Note that normally (for a certain anal retentive someone) I don't link to blogs, but as 31,000 fake signatures is a blog issue and would never even get close to a science journal:
climate.weather.com/blogs/9_15857.html
Bored now.
“World temperatures fluctuate all the time,” said Robinson. “The temperature of the Earth has risen many times, far more times than carbon dioxide could drive it. There is no experimental evidence that humans are changing the environment…”
Except for all the, y'know, experimental evidence. Which we've been gathering since, oh 1859, when this effect was first observed.
www.aip.org/history/climate/co2.htm
In the 1970's we were told an Ice Age was coming. There was articles and such speculating on how we could warm the planet up to avoid it. I remember studies talking about putting a giant solar panel in space to increase sunlight.
And because Cold Fusion doesn't work, nuclear bombs are a pipe dream!
[snip neo-libertarian anarchy bullcrap]
In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.
-Thomas Jefferson
Yet another goverment slave calling the less gullable a little slave
Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981
World temperatures are cooling yet the ice is melting faster. I would look for another cause other then global warming on that one. Maybe contamination or increased population of scientists around the arctic.
Nice sig
Study: Media coverage has favored Obama campaign
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Maybe you ought to hold off on the global warming threads until the snow melts in the northeast, in October! Keep the faith though.