wow you actully want to deal drugs and have prostitues in a game wow thats sad lol... isent stealing cars, breakign into places robbing people shotting up other gangs, cops good enuff?
im sorry lets take that out and JUST have drugs and hoes...
some people lol
either you can do it all and you don't do any of it. that's how people are feeling. I'd love to sell drugs in the real world. Make mad money and sit back and do nothing but smoke weed all day knowing i can easily just wait for my phone to ring and cha ching 20-50 bucks.. I like how all these people are so against both drug dealing and prostitues it's funny like they hold themselves higher than the rest of the world who can't make it so they find there own way to make it in the world today.
I really think it's because these types of people who feel so strongly again'st drug dealing and prostitues are mad because they never had the balls to think oh shit. I could easily make 20-50 a sale on drugs. Not saying prostitues is a money making that's just fucked up for human beings but it provides a huge source of income. I know plenty of people from highschool and now in college who are selling drugs because it's a good way to make a lot a quick money. Your only mad because you never had the means or the nerve to do such a thing and have to continue on the rat race instead of sitting back enjoying life. that's the real crime, not enjoying life
Or maybe, just maybe they have some actual morals and were brought up right so as to think selling drugs isn't exactly a great way to make a living. I mean god forbid someone have some scrupals and not act like some wanna be tough teen who thinks selling drugs is "kewl." Yeah it's cool until you go to jail and your ripe young ass is your cell mates "drug".
no my upbringing is just as fine as the rest of the people here. I think it's sad that I'm morally fucked up because I can see an easy way to the top of the money train than the rest of you.
No, I think it's sad that you don't think selling drugs is wrong. Sure sure your upbringing is fine. Obviously not if you think selling drugs is the way to go.
What I am saying if you read correctly, is that selling drugs like say weed, goes for 20 dollars for a 1.0 grams there are 27.5 -28.0 grams in an ounce you can make all those bags 0.7 and claim back your investment. THan you can bag out those .3 into other bags with the rest and use those for profit. Drug Dealing is a buisness you can make a lot of money.
Pills any type of pain relaxer goes for 25 dollars in new jersey. I can buy 5 for a five dollar deal 120 bucks. I can sell the individually for 25 bucks and make 25 dollars, my investment. Pushing Drugs is just like a legal buisness, Except their products are illegal. Now someone say from say my town for an example, is 16 they can't get a job, they can't can't ask their parents because their parents aren't to loaded either. He can either get a job and work 20-40 hours a week for 7.95 an hour of he can call up some people and do five minutes of driving and walk away with 20 dollars. I'm not saying that everyone should go sell drugs cause clearly like you, you don't have the balls to do it.
Morals just like sanity depends of what the larger portion of society thinks. Sadly the larger portion of society assume all drugs are bad and wrong and that as long as their prescribed by a doctor that their okay... I'm not in favor of a world that rather state drugs are bad and than sell addictive man-made substance over a counter and call them okay because a doctor said it was okay. If that makes me morally fucked up let it be.
24 million people in 1970 have tried smoking pot, it is america largest cash crop illegally at something ~5 billion dollars and over 172 countries in the world grow pot.
The netherlands must be moraly fucked up too because they tolerate all types of drugs and have put a seperation of hard and soft drugs.
I want to be the grammar nazi police and shoot people dead who talk like "You ignant foolio! I be so jive talking like dis!" That would make for a funny enforcer.
you should and watch how many people just go to shoot you for the fun on it
also jive? what are you over 50?
And what are you? Under 13? Sorry pal but people actually do use the word jive a lot more than you think.
no one who truely speaks like that uses jive anymore that went out with all the funk in the 70s
Not really. People still use it. Nice logical fallacy though. Because YOU haven't heard anyone use it, obviously no one does.
because you have such a statistic that you've been keeping track off for you to be able to tell me that i'm wrong..
Originally posted by teiohFromSWG Originally posted by Coman Originally posted by Conley I heard that this game was supposed to be a GTA-clone MMO. But a GTA type game without drugs and prostitution is like a fantasy game without swords and sorcery. Completely pointless.
Why? The drugs and prostitute stuff in GTA are either story line or consist of pickup/dropoff missions, with can easily be replaced. Like someone else said, it is going to lower there sells, then why would they? Especialy if it does not lower the quality of the game.
Also I do not see how dealing drugs and having prostitute would improve the game. What would drugs do? Have "Kill 5 gangsters and get take there drugs and bring it to person X", "Get to point x and take the drugs and bring it to point Y" or "Go to prositute and "talk" with her" missoin? Yes that would really add fun to the game...however for some odd reason it remind me of these few other MMO's out there.
drugs add in depth through the creations of the drugs (crafting of drugs), the movement of drugs(adds in trafficking elements which has awesome potential with cops), the sale of drugs to others players (economic) and also elements of corruption among police. unless you want to just have a game where you shoot at each other 95% of the time, then drugs can add some nice elements into the game.
I agree with you that adding drugs and/or prostitution is needed in a game about crime just for the story aspect, but to do this they also need to add other crimes that are even uglier than selling drugs and make money on trafficing, pedofiles for instance..
I guess that we just have to imagine the crimes the "bad guys has commited"...The fear of this to become a glorified pro drug/prostitution simulator, I guess that is a harch reality for a developer today..What shall we choose ?
The odd part is that shooting a bad guy or good guy is "morally" alright but selling drugs and capturing drug dealers is not, Hmm wonder what sort of messege that sends to the youngsters of USA..
The even more odd aspect of this is that it's a circle that tries to be broken by not adding vital parts to it, and prostitution and drug dealing is a large part of this circle that ends up with bank robberies etc etc...Ohh well
Originally posted by Vinterkrig Originally posted by sylacus
Seems this thread has derailed just slightly. However my 2 cents. Seems kind of silly to have a gang game without the afromentioned things.
because prostitution and drugs are the only two things involved in crime?
you can mug npc that walk around the city, you can cop kill, you can run people over, you can shoot people, missions of stealing cars, setting shit on fire, placing bombs ...etc..etc and you complain about juvenile shit like drugs and prostitutes oh no you can hump in a video game, boo hoo 95% of drug dealing is petty crap anyways, there is PLENTY in place for a criminal without having to pimp out guys playing chicks to cyber another guy, or banging a npc woman (go play second life ?)
I think you misunderstand this a tad bit, I do not think many of us is talking about this as an added "feature" in the game, they talk about it as an added story aspect of the missions etc.. Hmm..BTW Your comment sounds odd btw, "juvenile shit", as if it isn't "juvenile" to play cops and robbers..I think this game may have some identity problems" on it's hand, the dev's will get a hard time to identify what group of players they actually are aiming for ...
Again, their are drug running mission in APB. If your talking about taking up a career in drug dealing then no there isnt because it's not a sandbox game. If APB was sandbox then yes a career in drug dealing amongs other skills would be good but it's a thempark mmorp.
It's a pity their isnt some sort of career mode where you can pick a type of criminal you want to be. The problem then is how you give the enforcers a simlar bunch of choices.
I think this will be a major game breaker for many when it's released,they really need to think about setting up such a system. Okay it's not GTA but to tell the truth you can have just as much fun playing that game.
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What I am saying if you read correctly, is that selling drugs like say weed, goes for 20 dollars for a 1.0 grams there are 27.5 -28.0 grams in an ounce you can make all those bags 0.7 and claim back your investment. THan you can bag out those .3 into other bags with the rest and use those for profit. Drug Dealing is a buisness you can make a lot of money.
Pills any type of pain relaxer goes for 25 dollars in new jersey. I can buy 5 for a five dollar deal 120 bucks. I can sell the individually for 25 bucks and make 25 dollars, my investment. Pushing Drugs is just like a legal buisness, Except their products are illegal. Now someone say from say my town for an example, is 16 they can't get a job, they can't can't ask their parents because their parents aren't to loaded either. He can either get a job and work 20-40 hours a week for 7.95 an hour of he can call up some people and do five minutes of driving and walk away with 20 dollars. I'm not saying that everyone should go sell drugs cause clearly like you, you don't have the balls to do it.
Morals just like sanity depends of what the larger portion of society thinks. Sadly the larger portion of society assume all drugs are bad and wrong and that as long as their prescribed by a doctor that their okay... I'm not in favor of a world that rather state drugs are bad and than sell addictive man-made substance over a counter and call them okay because a doctor said it was okay. If that makes me morally fucked up let it be.
24 million people in 1970 have tried smoking pot, it is america largest cash crop illegally at something ~5 billion dollars and over 172 countries in the world grow pot.
The netherlands must be moraly fucked up too because they tolerate all types of drugs and have put a seperation of hard and soft drugs.
because you have such a statistic that you've been keeping track off for you to be able to tell me that i'm wrong..
you know as little as I do, so shut it
Why? The drugs and prostitute stuff in GTA are either story line or consist of pickup/dropoff missions, with can easily be replaced. Like someone else said, it is going to lower there sells, then why would they? Especialy if it does not lower the quality of the game.
Also I do not see how dealing drugs and having prostitute would improve the game. What would drugs do? Have "Kill 5 gangsters and get take there drugs and bring it to person X", "Get to point x and take the drugs and bring it to point Y" or "Go to prositute and "talk" with her" missoin? Yes that would really add fun to the game...however for some odd reason it remind me of these few other MMO's out there.
drugs add in depth through the creations of the drugs (crafting of drugs), the movement of drugs(adds in trafficking elements which has awesome potential with cops), the sale of drugs to others players (economic) and also elements of corruption among police.
unless you want to just have a game where you shoot at each other 95% of the time, then drugs can add some nice elements into the game.
I agree with you that adding drugs and/or prostitution is needed in a game about crime just for the story aspect, but to do this they also need to add other crimes that are even uglier than selling drugs and make money on trafficing, pedofiles for instance..
I guess that we just have to imagine the crimes the "bad guys has commited"...The fear of this to become a glorified pro drug/prostitution simulator, I guess that is a harch reality for a developer today..What shall we choose ?
The odd part is that shooting a bad guy or good guy is "morally" alright but selling drugs and capturing drug dealers is not, Hmm wonder what sort of messege that sends to the youngsters of USA..
The even more odd aspect of this is that it's a circle that tries to be broken by not adding vital parts to it, and prostitution and drug dealing is a large part of this circle that ends up with bank robberies etc etc...Ohh well
you can mug npc that walk around the city, you can cop kill, you can run people over, you can shoot people, missions of stealing cars, setting shit on fire, placing bombs ...etc..etc and you complain about juvenile shit like drugs and prostitutes
oh no you can hump in a video game, boo hoo 95% of drug dealing is petty crap anyways, there is PLENTY in place for a criminal without having to pimp out guys playing chicks to cyber another guy, or banging a npc woman (go play second life ?)
I think you misunderstand this a tad bit, I do not think many of us is talking about this as an added "feature" in the game, they talk about it as an added story aspect of the missions etc..
Hmm..BTW Your comment sounds odd btw, "juvenile shit", as if it isn't "juvenile" to play cops and robbers..I think this game may have some identity problems" on it's hand, the dev's will get a hard time to identify what group of players they actually are aiming for ...
Please avoid personal attacks. Play nice.
Again, their are drug running mission in APB. If your talking about taking up a career in drug dealing then no there isnt because it's not a sandbox game. If APB was sandbox then yes a career in drug dealing amongs other skills would be good but it's a thempark mmorp.
It's a pity their isnt some sort of career mode where you can pick a type of criminal you want to be. The problem then is how you give the enforcers a simlar bunch of choices.
I think this will be a major game breaker for many when it's released,they really need to think about setting up such a system. Okay it's not GTA but to tell the truth you can have just as much fun playing that game.
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