Anyone here that actually hopes WoW doesn't die?

xusheng2

I've been seeing alot of posts about games that might kill WoW, but never did. And i was just wondering if there is someone On this website that actually hopes this game doesn't die.

/discuss

Edit: Happy New Year!!

 

Azrile

nice poll

Paragraph -  is there anyone who doesn't want WOW to die?

 

xusheng2

Originally posted by Zorndorf
 
Its mainstream now. I's like disliking Madonna or Bruce Springsteen, you only make a fool out of yourself if you dislike WoW.
 
 

 

I don't like madonna... and wth is Bruce Springsteen

Kyleran

Originally posted by xusheng2



 and wth is Bruce Springsteen

 

Truly one of the greatest singer/songwriters that's ever played a guitar.....shame you don't know of him.

 

 

Nadia

I dont want any online game to die -- every game has its fans

ghogiel

I don't give a damn.

It's just a game - I have no emotional ties to it.

There are good games out there - I've just recently bought Bioshock for $5 from Steam. It's an awesome, awesome game.

Pheace

Try Fallout 3, you'll not regret it

Arthineas

Unless the game is an out right scam, I never understood why someone would want an mmorpg to die.  Choices are good and variety is the spice of life.  I may not play WoW anymore and it is certainly not my favorite.  But I am glad that it is still doing good.  I think that people who wish for an mmorpg to die are just being small minded and need to get a life.

Daffid011

The death of WoW will not somehow make other games better.  That is the problem to many people just don't understand. 

 

 

Unknown

AC1 and to a large extent EQ1 I had some emotional ties to.

But every game since then, including WOW, has turned out to be more of a time filler than anything I really feel involved in. If WOW disappeared tomorrow the impact on me would be just about zero.

Not that I want WOW to die, I just don't care much.

SpectralHunter

 What I'd love to see is Blizzard completely revamping WoW so that it is almost a new game.  I'd love to see them progress the world by changing it and remaking some areas to accomodate the passage of time.

I don't want the EQ model where Sony just made a whole new game that progressed the story and called it EQ2.

But to see WoW completely new in 2-3 years, not just with expansions but with the old world actually reshaped would be amazing.  That's what I'd love to see.  WoW evolving as time progresses, then it can truly live forever.

demolishIX

 I hope WoW never dies,soo all the kids stay there and not bother me in my MMOG 

Sovrath

Originally posted by xusheng2

Originally posted by Zorndorf
 
Its mainstream now. I's like disliking Madonna or Bruce Springsteen, you only make a fool out of yourself if you dislike WoW.
 
 

 

I don't like madonna... and wth is Bruce Springsteen

 

 

to the point of the thread, early games like EQ and UO and Lineage are still around. I highly doubt WoW will die. Especially given its enormous playerbase.

Blazer6992

   There will always be WoW'ers out there. It will never die.

 

Terranah

Over 11 million people are enjoying it, so why would I want it to die.  Hell...with the crap that is out now I am playing it myself again and having a good albeit addicted time.

 

People hate WOW because they think it is the reason we have so many crap mmo's.  I disagree.  Just because Coke is very popular you don't see all the other companies just making cola drinks.  No, the fact is there is a lack of innovation, creativity and management skills that is undermining  mmo development.

 

Why do mmo's fail.  Because they make stupid decisions that make no sense to the average person.  But give that average person an MBA and a title and put them in charge of running a multimillion dollar organization and suddenly graphs and charts and dubious results from 'focus' groups appear out of thin air to support every lame ass idea they can think of.

 

Look....there are ALOT of brillliant posters on this site that could design an mmo better than the current crop of game designers.   There is no shortage of ideas, inspiration, creativity and even genius within the mmo community, yet this resource is untapped.

Xanthorn2008

I don't think nor should WoW "die" or ever go away.  Several MMOs are still around from ages ago and personally, though I don't play it anymore, thinks EQ was great for its time and the 4 1/2 years I played it.  After EQ, I searched for several replacements till WoW was released.  Though, that lasted a couple years due to life changes and gaming needs. 

So to make a long story short, I could care less about wether WoW "dies", but would rather care about what the next innovative MMO is going to be that catches my attention.  Currently, there is none out there IMO, so I am once again in a lull between good MMOs.

 

dave6660

Originally posted by Daffid011


The death of WoW will not somehow make other games better.  That is the problem to many people just don't understand.

"Misery loves company."

Quizzical

WoW serves a critical role for the MMORPG industry.  It brings in people who never played an MMORPG before, due to Blizzard's effective marketing of the game outside of gaming circles.

Most of the people that WoW brings in would have liked some other game better than WoW.  (That's not a knock on WoW; there is no game that an outright majority of players would agree is the best ever.)  Once they've had enough of WoW, they're more likely to move on to some other game than to quit MMORPGs entirely.  And that means more players for other MMORPGs, which means more money for the industry, more games made, larger playerbases for the games that are made, and various other good things.

WoW dying would be quite a bad thing for the industry unless some other game is there to fill its role in bringing new players in.  WoW is hardly the only game that could possibly do that, of course; in South Korea, it was Lineage that filled that role, not WoW.  But it takes both polish and marketing savvy, and most companies don't seem to have that much of the latter.

kwosh

I play WoW basically from the beginning of it..  I have played other mmo's that I thought more (thinking) was involved.. I started playing games when Asheron's Call came out.. First game to really have an open expanse of a game and only dungeons were sorta instanced but they were open instanced not just your party etc could go into.. everyone would be instanced into them..

 If i have a problem today with MMO's it would be the down thinking of their complexity.. graphics have of coarse gotten better, but the problem solving, actual questing, and such have gone out the window.. Like when you played a pen and pencil type of game, you had to actually THINK how you would enter a dungeon.. questing??  heck you had to find clues, and go from there and find more clues, or actually pull levers to open certain doors that would in turn open other doors and more clues...

Does anyone remember those types of games?   or is it  just "i have better gear  i beat you" " Oh you got me this time"?   If game developers would actually bring back a GAME that we could think in..  i would be all over it....   just a few thoughts      Kwosh

Carl132p

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Quizzical


WoW serves a critical role for the MMORPG industry.  It brings in people who never played an MMORPG before, due to Blizzard's effective marketing of the game outside of gaming circles.
Most of the people that WoW brings in would have liked some other game better than WoW.  (That's not a knock on WoW; there is no game that an outright majority of players would agree is the best ever.)  Once they've had enough of WoW, they're more likely to move on to some other game than to quit MMORPGs entirely.  And that means more players for other MMORPGs, which means more money for the industry, more games made, larger playerbases for the games that are made, and various other good things.
WoW dying would be quite a bad thing for the industry unless some other game is there to fill its role in bringing new players in.  WoW is hardly the only game that could possibly do that, of course; in South Korea, it was Lineage that filled that role, not WoW.  But it takes both polish and marketing savvy, and most companies don't seem to have that much of the latter.

 

Apart from marketing, Blizzard makes good games and good stories. Most forget this.

Nintendo does the same with the console market btw. Tx to Wii and DS the industry is alive, despite PS3 and XBox platforms for a 256417th version of a brainless FPS.

Blizzard is the Nintendo of the PC games market, without Wow, the PC game market and MMORPG's would have died in these past 3 years.

I can't believe ANY other MMORPG could have had the role Wow played these years. Only a very small minority want to pay for a subscription if you see the "standards" these games offer today.

 

 

truth. ALso blanket statements are fun! im a twat apparently cause i play a game that is easily better than any other MMO game out there. You're favorite not WoW game isn't doing as well as wow because it doesnt have the polish, doesn't have the quality, doesn't have the content and all you can do is sputter and say amg but the graphics and amg its so easy, People are tired of being punished with these ideas that a game shouldn't be fun it should be painful to play and kick your ass when you die.

Quizzical

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Quizzical


WoW serves a critical role for the MMORPG industry.  It brings in people who never played an MMORPG before, due to Blizzard's effective marketing of the game outside of gaming circles.
Most of the people that WoW brings in would have liked some other game better than WoW.  (That's not a knock on WoW; there is no game that an outright majority of players would agree is the best ever.)  Once they've had enough of WoW, they're more likely to move on to some other game than to quit MMORPGs entirely.  And that means more players for other MMORPGs, which means more money for the industry, more games made, larger playerbases for the games that are made, and various other good things.
WoW dying would be quite a bad thing for the industry unless some other game is there to fill its role in bringing new players in.  WoW is hardly the only game that could possibly do that, of course; in South Korea, it was Lineage that filled that role, not WoW.  But it takes both polish and marketing savvy, and most companies don't seem to have that much of the latter.

 

Apart from marketing, Blizzard makes good games and good stories. Most forget this.

Nintendo does the same with the console market btw. Tx to Wii and DS the industry is alive, despite PS3 and XBox platforms for a 256417th version of a brainless FPS.

Blizzard is the Nintendo of the PC games market, without Wow, the PC game market and MMORPG's would have died in these past 3 years.

I can't believe ANY other MMORPG could have had the role Wow played these years. Only a very small minority want to pay for a subscription if you see the "standards" these games offer today.

 

 

Certainly, WoW is polished.  But a good storyline?  WoW doesn't even have a coherent storyline, let alone a good one.  There are a bunch of scattered bits and fragments that mostly come down to, boss X must die because it drops epics.

And no, Blizzard isn't similar to Nintendo at all.  Nintendo specializes in innovation, and is the only established company that comes to mind to do so.  Indeed, sometimes Nintendo seems to take risks for the sake of taking risks, while most companies do the opposite.  Nintendo is very hit and miss, and has some spectacular misses (anyone remember Virtual Boy?).

Blizzard's specialty is not innovation, but polish.  What does WoW do that hadn't already been done by some other game?  Blizzard's insight was that copying other games isn't such a detriment  if you can successfully market your game to people who haven't played those other games.

Carl132p

Originally posted by Quizzical

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Quizzical


WoW serves a critical role for the MMORPG industry.  It brings in people who never played an MMORPG before, due to Blizzard's effective marketing of the game outside of gaming circles.
Most of the people that WoW brings in would have liked some other game better than WoW.  (That's not a knock on WoW; there is no game that an outright majority of players would agree is the best ever.)  Once they've had enough of WoW, they're more likely to move on to some other game than to quit MMORPGs entirely.  And that means more players for other MMORPGs, which means more money for the industry, more games made, larger playerbases for the games that are made, and various other good things.
WoW dying would be quite a bad thing for the industry unless some other game is there to fill its role in bringing new players in.  WoW is hardly the only game that could possibly do that, of course; in South Korea, it was Lineage that filled that role, not WoW.  But it takes both polish and marketing savvy, and most companies don't seem to have that much of the latter.

 

Apart from marketing, Blizzard makes good games and good stories. Most forget this.

Nintendo does the same with the console market btw. Tx to Wii and DS the industry is alive, despite PS3 and XBox platforms for a 256417th version of a brainless FPS.

Blizzard is the Nintendo of the PC games market, without Wow, the PC game market and MMORPG's would have died in these past 3 years.

I can't believe ANY other MMORPG could have had the role Wow played these years. Only a very small minority want to pay for a subscription if you see the "standards" these games offer today.

 

 

Certainly, WoW is polished.  But a good storyline?  WoW doesn't even have a coherent storyline, let alone a good one.  There are a bunch of scattered bits and fragments that mostly come down to, boss X must die because it drops epics.

And no, Blizzard isn't similar to Nintendo at all.  Nintendo specializes in innovation, and is the only established company that comes to mind to do so.  Indeed, sometimes Nintendo seems to take risks for the sake of taking risks, while most companies do the opposite.  Nintendo is very hit and miss, and has some spectacular misses (anyone remember Virtual Boy?).

Blizzard's specialty is not innovation, but polish.  What does WoW do that hadn't already been done by some other game?  Blizzard's insight was that copying other games isn't such a detriment  if you can successfully market your game to people who haven't played those other games.

 

Name an mmo that does have a good story line i dare you. You can't but sure you can try.

kwosh

I am replying to the guy that said "name an MMO that has a good storyline"   I refer again to Asheron's Call...  story was unique, the mobs were unique... and to the people that use ALL these add ons   i ask  WHY???   its like these single player games that people cant wait to come out and BAMM!!!  they use the cheat codes and such... I say again TRY using your head... hmm maybe they dont have one.. sorry to those that do not, my bad...

kwosh

And I am sorry for goin off topic... to the MAIN  answer to the op's question... I do NOT hope  WoW dies... I dont wish any mmo to die... i want them to get better for those people that play them... and hope you all enjoy what you are playing.. so we dont avhe to bash any games... but enjoy them.. If wow died  watch out, because  your mmo would be next...I tend to think that WoW was a stepping stone to bigger and better MMO's  and i am still waiting for a truely great mmo to come out.. that i can use my head in ...  my hopes are, Darkfall, Earthrise, and some other one i saw recently and i cant think of its name but it looked even better than AoC...

Nadia

Originally posted by Zorndorf



CONSISTENT lore than World of Warcraft.

Consistent?  even Blizzard admits they rewrote existing lore with Burning Crusade

www.wowwiki.com/Metzen_on_lore

Hit #1: Lore Train-Wreck

Right To be totally up-front with you guys, it's my bad, straight up. The obvious lore contradiction with Sargeras and his encounter with the eredar was clearly documented in the Warcraft III manual. I wrote those bits about four years ago, and to be totally honest, I simply forgot. Genius, right? With my excitement to get the draenei up to speed and root them more firmly in the setting, I forgot to do my homework and go back over my earlier writing. I can assure you, no ones more crushed about this mistake than I am. Ive spent the last few days kicking my own ass over this one. Sucks to fail. It may not always be evident, but we take this story stuff really seriously at Blizzard. It's been one of my personal missions at this company to maintain a high level of integrity throughout the Warcraft game setting (all of them, actually) and I think weve done a pretty decent job of upholding the continuity over the years.

I think it's important to note that world building is far bigger than just storytelling, and it requires (in my humble opinion) a certain amount of flexibility.

xusheng2

Originally posted by Zorndorf

Originally posted by Quizzical


WoW serves a critical role for the MMORPG industry.  It brings in people who never played an MMORPG before, due to Blizzard's effective marketing of the game outside of gaming circles.
Most of the people that WoW brings in would have liked some other game better than WoW.  (That's not a knock on WoW; there is no game that an outright majority of players would agree is the best ever.)  Once they've had enough of WoW, they're more likely to move on to some other game than to quit MMORPGs entirely.  And that means more players for other MMORPGs, which means more money for the industry, more games made, larger playerbases for the games that are made, and various other good things.
WoW dying would be quite a bad thing for the industry unless some other game is there to fill its role in bringing new players in.  WoW is hardly the only game that could possibly do that, of course; in South Korea, it was Lineage that filled that role, not WoW.  But it takes both polish and marketing savvy, and most companies don't seem to have that much of the latter.

 

Apart from marketing, Blizzard makes good games and good stories. Most forget this.

Nintendo does the same with the console market btw. Tx to Wii and DS the industry is alive, despite PS3 and XBox platforms for a 256417th version of a brainless FPS.

Blizzard is the Nintendo of the PC games market, without Wow, the PC game market and MMORPG's would have died in these past 3 years.

I can't believe ANY other MMORPG could have had the role Wow played these years. Only a very small minority want to pay for a subscription if you see the "standards" these games offer today.

To begin with: I am always surprised how bad the animation and controls are in those other MMO's. They all look like stiff puppets with a stick in their asses. And the more "realistc" the more helpless controls and animations look.

That's only one observation to start with, I will not even mention the 313 other obvious elements those "better" MMO's lack.

 

 

Nintendo does not bring people into the console business, it's the least popurlar console out of xbox360 and ps3. I mean it does bring some, but not alot.