I can't find anything about trial keys. I cant even find there official forum...eh
Soverign Malus some call me Blood hound is what other's say. I shall crush all opponents Father Death, Chaos Lord Rains tyranny. blanket of shadow, steel sword kissed by the blood of the unworthy. Foes Fall, Fields Of Red. - Soverign Malus " Father Death" Forever Shadow Sect.
There is no official forum. And as far as keys go....someone offered them to you at least 3 different times IN THIS THREAD. Go back and check the posts, heh.
Man, I wish I could get a freaking key, I wanted my wife to try the game (trying to get her away from WoW lol)
Ive been a complete failure on these forums trying to get one and this guy that can't read back posts gets offered three.
anyway this is my last shot my Email is Metalhead9806@yahoo.com
maybe someone will be kind enough to let my wife try the game lol
The level cap is 40 btw. I think its a fun rvr game, Its not a big pve game atm, although mythic seems pretty good about adding new material fast, and overall its a solid built game. As for paying $50, personaly I would look on ebay I have seen the product keys selling from 10-15 dollars and just download the client save yourself some cash
Ok, I've Heard and read the bashing and the praising. But what i want to know, is the game worth it. Or should i just wait for 3-4 month's before diving in head first. I know AoC was in a similar predicament. But i also heard it improved. Overall is WAR worth the 50$. Or will it be worth the 50$ in a while, becuase if not, there are alote of new mmo's commin out and i can wait. " Game looks sick : )"
You can't take the opinion of people unless you understand what they like.
The easiest way to tell that is to look at the posting history of the people that praise the game as well as the bashers. You'll get a clearer understanding of who is who and what they like.
If their opinion matches yours, positive or negative, you have are closer to an answer as opposed to just buying the game.
It was just announced a few days ago that official forums are on their way. For now, there are semi-official forums here: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/
I have a code for the OP. Send me a PM with your first name and email address and I'll hook you up.
Forums - There is many but no official forum ( they are useless anyways ). But if you are looking for something of substance then warhammer alliance and we also have a nice gathering at mmorpgslave.com
Keys - All you have to do is post that you want one anywhere, on any forum, and soeone will send one to you. If you can;t get one come to mmorpgslave.com ( our guilds website ) and post on our forum ( there is one for getting free keys ). So far we were able to get one for everyone who posted.
Ok, I've Heard and read the bashing and the praising. But what i want to know, is the game worth it. Or should i just wait for 3-4 month's before diving in head first. I know AoC was in a similar predicament. But i also heard it improved. Overall is WAR worth the 50$. Or will it be worth the 50$ in a while, becuase if not, there are alote of new mmo's commin out and i can wait. " Game looks sick : )"
Posts like this are a waste. You've read the bashing and praising but you what to know is the game worth it. Stop and think what that means. It means you'll read more bashing and praising in this thread. How much do you have to read before you do what you should've done before posting? Play the game for yourself. You want us to make up your mind for you.
There are tons of warhammer online videos on youtube.
The game up until level 20 if fun. Scenarios are fun IF you have close to equal healing. Tier 2 and Tier 3 have a couple nice scenarios minus ToR Anroc. Tier4 is pretty much one scenario Serpent's Passage and being at the bottom of the tier pretty much makes you cannon fodder for 5 levels.
Some PQ's are interesting some aren't.
That's the good of the game now the bad:
More CC than any game I've played. Every class has it, and it makes no sense. (Played CC toons in daoc for years)
The ORvR everyone keeps talking about it really not existent unless you want to run from warcamp to bridge and back to the keep. Basically 10% of the terrain has RvR in it, which literally means running from a keep to a bridge and back again. If you're lucky you get to defend the Well in Saphery.
Both sides avoid direct contact because the rewards from keep lords are all anyone is really after. So while both sides are taking keeps, they are usually in opposite zones to avoid each other.
These are just a few of the issues with the game.
The game has been flawed from initial design and after the first 30 days, you'll be asking yourself the same question. Do I really want to resub? Well any game that makes you ask that question is probably a game you shouldn't waste the first 30 days on. Mythic didn't just drop the ball, they fumbled it out of the endzone on this one.
Both sides avoid direct contact because the rewards from keep lords are all anyone is really after. So while both sides are taking keeps, they are usually in opposite zones to avoid each other.
This is the exact opposite of what I see in game every day. I am on Red Eye Mountain and we spend every night fighting each other. Not hiding from each other and taking empty keeps... Chasing each other around, attacking them while they try to take BOs, or while they are in the lords room at a keep. Or just rolling across the landscape in fluid skirmish line.
I'm call BS on what you said. If that's how you played the game, it's no wonder you didn't enjoy it. That's like complaining to the waiter that your steak wasn't good, after ingesting your steak rectally.
Both sides avoid direct contact because the rewards from keep lords are all anyone is really after. So while both sides are taking keeps, they are usually in opposite zones to avoid each other.
This is the exact opposite of what I see in game every day. I am on Red Eye Mountain and we spend every night fighting each other. Not hiding from each other and taking empty keeps... Chasing each other around, attacking them while they try to take BOs, or while they are in the lords room at a keep. Or just rolling across the landscape in fluid skirmish line.
I'm call BS on what you said. If that's how you played the game, it's no wonder you didn't enjoy it. That's like complaining to the waiter that your steak wasn't good, after ingesting your steak rectally.
I'm sorry but clearly this is happening a lot as it's posted all over the interweb as a big complaint to the ORvR at the moment. I'm happy it's not like that on REM but it's certainly there for a lot of other players.
Ohh... wait it must be true if you read it on the interweb. My firsthand experience must be what's wrong. BS hate posts by trolls who never played the game, or only played it at launch must be a more accurate state of the game than current players. Tell you what.... I'll give you one of my keys and you can come see for yourself that people ARE fighting each other in open RvR.
Sure smaller groups avoid keeps and focus on Battlefield Objectives. But that isn't the same thing as avoiding other players. We fight them at BOs all the time. That crap about intent ally being on different maps just doesn't fly. If you try it in a warband it falls apart. People constantly try to goad the warband leader in in taking keeps short handed or leaving a keep we are defending to cut them off at the next BO after they take one.
I still say you guys are ignorantly talking about the game's past as if it was the present.
Ohh... wait it must be true if you read it on the interweb. My firsthand experience must be what's wrong. BS hate posts by trolls who never played the game, or only played it at launch must be a more accurate state of the game than current players. Tell you what.... I'll give you one of my keys and you can come see for yourself that people ARE fighting each other in open RvR. Sure smaller groups avoid keeps and focus on Battlefield Objectives. But that isn't the same thing as avoiding other players. We fight them at BOs all the time. That crap about intent ally being on different maps just doesn't fly. If you try it in a warband it falls apart. People constantly try to goad the warband leader in in taking keeps short handed or leaving a keep we are defending to cut them off at the next BO after they take one. I still say you guys are ignorantly talking about the game's past as if it was the present.
Please, go read up. The clear difference being when I read it noone in their sane mind argued it because it happens. Read up, go ahead, unless you enjoy burying your head in the sand. Just because *your* sole experience is different doesn't mean it's not happening which was my premise.
I suggest reading the Vnboards for good threads on it. (For those who say "Zomg VNboards are worthless!" ... well you must not have much faith in Mythic's lead developer's judgement then as he frequents there a lot + asks questions etc)
I wholeheartedly agree not everything you read on the "intrawebz" is true but this one surely is.
See that's how lies spread on the internet. Asshats repeat everything negative they read as if it's a fact. The FACT is, you have no idea how people are playing this game because you don't have an active account. When the area influence system went live, I'm sure some people tried to get influence the easiest way possible. You saying thats it's how everyone plays is a blatantly ignorant lie. You can find plenty of threads about gold farmers, but that doesn't mean this is just a gold farming game.. everyone sits around spamming each other about buying gold.
I have never seen the forums you mentioned. I do frequent the Warhammer Alliance forums... those being the semi-official forums until the official forums come up. Try reading through the server specific RvR forums there. You'll certainly find a lot more posts about people having fought battles in open RvR than running and hiding from each other. I cant find a single post on the subject in the front page of my server's RvR forum.
Considering MJ posts on VNboards quite a lot I'd consider those just as "semi-official" as the one you mention.
I don't need to argue this with you, just because you don't experience it and you confirm that by checking your own server s forums (which you already said didn't experience this issue), well yeah. Still your own small little world. Servers vary greatly in size, population and mentalities. When it comes up again and I remember this thread I'll perhaps send a link but I really can't be bothered digging when you can't be bothered to
Signs it's not "lies" like your gold comments (lol, worst possible example), coming from fans who's opinion I believe and even more, no "Zomg it's not true! " statements *at all* by even the hardened fans there, just discussion on how/what is wrong and how to possibly cvhange it. (With some trolls in between)
I'm not saying that people on my server never fight undefended keeps or battlefield objectives.. I'm saying overall it happens less than you believe it does. FYI, I have mid level characters on two servers, REM and Gorfang, and we transfered our guild from Saphery when I was lvl 20 on my destro toon. I can say that this wasn't a problem on three server first hand. The FACT is that the majority of RvR players do not play the way you claim they do. If a group hits a couple of BOs without any resistance, the group members start goading the leader in to hitting an occupied keep, usually to the point that it happens. If it doesn't, the warband falls apart and another one replaces it.
I'm not saying that people on my server never fight undefended keeps or battlefield objectives.. I'm saying overall it happens less than you believe it does. FYI, I have mid level characters on two servers, REM and Gorfang, and we transfered our guild from Saphery when I was lvl 20 on my destro toon. I can say that this wasn't a problem on three server first hand. The FACT is that the majority of RvR players do not play the way you claim they do. If a group hits a couple of BOs without any resistance, the group members start goading the leader in to hitting an occupied keep, usually to the point that it happens. If it doesn't, the warband falls apart and another one replaces it.
So you can summize that after playing on 3 servers you know what the majority of people are doing?
I played order on badlands tier 3 and destro tier 4on dark crag, too highly populated servers and while yes Orvr happened, it happened in between two warcamps usually around the favored keeps. Granted sometimes in Black Fire you might get a couple good fights but it usually takes some searching at the keep.
Tier 2 happened in Ostland at one keep, Tier 3 action was almost always from Ghrond's to the bridge to the warcamp, to the well and sometimes scattered around the BO's nearby. Basically what WAR has given us is two portal keeps 100yards apart with a BO/Keep/milegate in between.
Keep swapping IS a major complaint among customers, whether you want to believe it or not.
One thing you also need to realise OPEN RvR to me is more than just camping a BO, Bridge, or Keep. Roaming RvR does not exist and if it does it's so minute compared to what daoc offered. (and I'm not just talking 8 vs 8) ,, Zergs would pass in MANY of the travel routes on a routine basis and you could pretty much find large fights anywhere in the frontier. How many large zerg battles have you seen anywhere BUT a keep or BO? I doubt very seriously that there's been any 6 vs 6 at the graveyard in Talabecland, the entrances to Gunbad, any of the pq's in tier 2-4. In short if ALL you like to do is fight on a bridge, keep, or huddled around a BO, than WaR is for you. If you expect more (LIKE MYTHIC ADVERTISED) than you will be highly disappointed.
I'm not saying that people on my server never fight undefended keeps or battlefield objectives.. I'm saying overall it happens less than you believe it does. FYI, I have mid level characters on two servers, REM and Gorfang, and we transfered our guild from Saphery when I was lvl 20 on my destro toon. I can say that this wasn't a problem on three server first hand. The FACT is that the majority of RvR players do not play the way you claim they do. If a group hits a couple of BOs without any resistance, the group members start goading the leader in to hitting an occupied keep, usually to the point that it happens. If it doesn't, the warband falls apart and another one replaces it.
So you can summize that after playing on 3 servers you know what the majority of people are doing?
I played order on badlands tier 3 and destro tier 4on dark crag, too highly populated servers and while yes Orvr happened, it happened in between two warcamps usually around the favored keeps. Granted sometimes in Black Fire you might get a couple good fights but it usually takes some searching at the keep.
Tier 2 happened in Ostland at one keep, Tier 3 action was almost always from Ghrond's to the bridge to the warcamp, to the well and sometimes scattered around the BO's nearby. Basically what WAR has given us is two portal keeps 100yards apart with a BO/Keep/milegate in between.
Keep swapping IS a major complaint among customers, whether you want to believe it or not.
One thing you also need to realise OPEN RvR to me is more than just camping a BO, Bridge, or Keep. Roaming RvR does not exist and if it does it's so minute compared to what daoc offered. (and I'm not just talking 8 vs 8) ,, Zergs would pass in MANY of the travel routes on a routine basis and you could pretty much find large fights anywhere in the frontier. How many large zerg battles have you seen anywhere BUT a keep or BO? I doubt very seriously that there's been any 6 vs 6 at the graveyard in Talabecland, the entrances to Gunbad, any of the pq's in tier 2-4. In short if ALL you like to do is fight on a bridge, keep, or huddled around a BO, than WaR is for you. If you expect more (LIKE MYTHIC ADVERTISED) than you will be highly disappointed.
I think the DAOC was really wanting and expecting DAOC 2.
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I can't find anything about trial keys. I cant even find there official forum...eh
Soverign Malus some call me
Blood hound is what other's say.
I shall crush all opponents
Father Death, Chaos Lord Rains tyranny.
blanket of shadow, steel sword kissed by the blood of the unworthy. Foes Fall, Fields Of Red.
- Soverign Malus " Father Death" Forever Shadow Sect.
There is no official forum.
And as far as keys go....someone offered them to you at least 3 different times IN THIS THREAD.
Go back and check the posts, heh.
Man, I wish I could get a freaking key, I wanted my wife to try the game (trying to get her away from WoW lol)
Ive been a complete failure on these forums trying to get one and this guy that can't read back posts gets offered three.
anyway this is my last shot my Email is Metalhead9806@yahoo.com
maybe someone will be kind enough to let my wife try the game lol
PLaying: EvE, Ryzom
Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum
I have a level 39 Shadow Hunter on Badlands
33 Witch elf on Dark Crag
The level cap is 40 btw. I think its a fun rvr game, Its not a big pve game atm, although mythic seems pretty good about adding new material fast, and overall its a solid built game. As for paying $50, personaly I would look on ebay I have seen the product keys selling from 10-15 dollars and just download the client save yourself some cash
Hey Metalhead980
I sent you a pm to get a code from me to try out WAR if you want. Anyone else want to one? PM me and I will send you one.
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You can't take the opinion of people unless you understand what they like.
The easiest way to tell that is to look at the posting history of the people that praise the game as well as the bashers. You'll get a clearer understanding of who is who and what they like.
If their opinion matches yours, positive or negative, you have are closer to an answer as opposed to just buying the game.
It was just announced a few days ago that official forums are on their way. For now, there are semi-official forums here: http://www.warhammeralliance.com/
I have a code for the OP. Send me a PM with your first name and email address and I'll hook you up.
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Forums - There is many but no official forum ( they are useless anyways ). But if you are looking for something of substance then warhammer alliance and we also have a nice gathering at mmorpgslave.com
Keys - All you have to do is post that you want one anywhere, on any forum, and soeone will send one to you. If you can;t get one come to mmorpgslave.com ( our guilds website ) and post on our forum ( there is one for getting free keys ). So far we were able to get one for everyone who posted.
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Posts like this are a waste. You've read the bashing and praising but you what to know is the game worth it. Stop and think what that means. It means you'll read more bashing and praising in this thread. How much do you have to read before you do what you should've done before posting? Play the game for yourself. You want us to make up your mind for you.
There are tons of warhammer online videos on youtube.
This game is for inferior mmoers
The game up until level 20 if fun. Scenarios are fun IF you have close to equal healing. Tier 2 and Tier 3 have a couple nice scenarios minus ToR Anroc. Tier4 is pretty much one scenario Serpent's Passage and being at the bottom of the tier pretty much makes you cannon fodder for 5 levels.
Some PQ's are interesting some aren't.
That's the good of the game now the bad:
More CC than any game I've played. Every class has it, and it makes no sense. (Played CC toons in daoc for years)
The ORvR everyone keeps talking about it really not existent unless you want to run from warcamp to bridge and back to the keep. Basically 10% of the terrain has RvR in it, which literally means running from a keep to a bridge and back again. If you're lucky you get to defend the Well in Saphery.
Both sides avoid direct contact because the rewards from keep lords are all anyone is really after. So while both sides are taking keeps, they are usually in opposite zones to avoid each other.
These are just a few of the issues with the game.
The game has been flawed from initial design and after the first 30 days, you'll be asking yourself the same question. Do I really want to resub? Well any game that makes you ask that question is probably a game you shouldn't waste the first 30 days on. Mythic didn't just drop the ball, they fumbled it out of the endzone on this one.
This is the exact opposite of what I see in game every day. I am on Red Eye Mountain and we spend every night fighting each other. Not hiding from each other and taking empty keeps... Chasing each other around, attacking them while they try to take BOs, or while they are in the lords room at a keep. Or just rolling across the landscape in fluid skirmish line.
I'm call BS on what you said. If that's how you played the game, it's no wonder you didn't enjoy it. That's like complaining to the waiter that your steak wasn't good, after ingesting your steak rectally.
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This is the exact opposite of what I see in game every day. I am on Red Eye Mountain and we spend every night fighting each other. Not hiding from each other and taking empty keeps... Chasing each other around, attacking them while they try to take BOs, or while they are in the lords room at a keep. Or just rolling across the landscape in fluid skirmish line.
I'm call BS on what you said. If that's how you played the game, it's no wonder you didn't enjoy it. That's like complaining to the waiter that your steak wasn't good, after ingesting your steak rectally.
I'm sorry but clearly this is happening a lot as it's posted all over the interweb as a big complaint to the ORvR at the moment. I'm happy it's not like that on REM but it's certainly there for a lot of other players.
Ohh... wait it must be true if you read it on the interweb. My firsthand experience must be what's wrong. BS hate posts by trolls who never played the game, or only played it at launch must be a more accurate state of the game than current players. Tell you what.... I'll give you one of my keys and you can come see for yourself that people ARE fighting each other in open RvR.
Sure smaller groups avoid keeps and focus on Battlefield Objectives. But that isn't the same thing as avoiding other players. We fight them at BOs all the time. That crap about intent ally being on different maps just doesn't fly. If you try it in a warband it falls apart. People constantly try to goad the warband leader in in taking keeps short handed or leaving a keep we are defending to cut them off at the next BO after they take one.
I still say you guys are ignorantly talking about the game's past as if it was the present.
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Please, go read up. The clear difference being when I read it noone in their sane mind argued it because it happens. Read up, go ahead, unless you enjoy burying your head in the sand. Just because *your* sole experience is different doesn't mean it's not happening which was my premise.
I suggest reading the Vnboards for good threads on it. (For those who say "Zomg VNboards are worthless!" ... well you must not have much faith in Mythic's lead developer's judgement then as he frequents there a lot + asks questions etc)
I wholeheartedly agree not everything you read on the "intrawebz" is true but this one surely is.
See that's how lies spread on the internet. Asshats repeat everything negative they read as if it's a fact. The FACT is, you have no idea how people are playing this game because you don't have an active account. When the area influence system went live, I'm sure some people tried to get influence the easiest way possible. You saying thats it's how everyone plays is a blatantly ignorant lie. You can find plenty of threads about gold farmers, but that doesn't mean this is just a gold farming game.. everyone sits around spamming each other about buying gold.
I have never seen the forums you mentioned. I do frequent the Warhammer Alliance forums... those being the semi-official forums until the official forums come up. Try reading through the server specific RvR forums there. You'll certainly find a lot more posts about people having fought battles in open RvR than running and hiding from each other. I cant find a single post on the subject in the front page of my server's RvR forum.
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Considering MJ posts on VNboards quite a lot I'd consider those just as "semi-official" as the one you mention.
I don't need to argue this with you, just because you don't experience it and you confirm that by checking your own server s forums (which you already said didn't experience this issue), well yeah. Still your own small little world. Servers vary greatly in size, population and mentalities. When it comes up again and I remember this thread I'll perhaps send a link but I really can't be bothered digging when you can't be bothered to
Signs it's not "lies" like your gold comments (lol, worst possible example), coming from fans who's opinion I believe and even more, no "Zomg it's not true! " statements *at all* by even the hardened fans there, just discussion on how/what is wrong and how to possibly cvhange it. (With some trolls in between)
I'm not saying that people on my server never fight undefended keeps or battlefield objectives.. I'm saying overall it happens less than you believe it does. FYI, I have mid level characters on two servers, REM and Gorfang, and we transfered our guild from Saphery when I was lvl 20 on my destro toon. I can say that this wasn't a problem on three server first hand. The FACT is that the majority of RvR players do not play the way you claim they do. If a group hits a couple of BOs without any resistance, the group members start goading the leader in to hitting an occupied keep, usually to the point that it happens. If it doesn't, the warband falls apart and another one replaces it.
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So you can summize that after playing on 3 servers you know what the majority of people are doing?
I played order on badlands tier 3 and destro tier 4on dark crag, too highly populated servers and while yes Orvr happened, it happened in between two warcamps usually around the favored keeps. Granted sometimes in Black Fire you might get a couple good fights but it usually takes some searching at the keep.
Tier 2 happened in Ostland at one keep, Tier 3 action was almost always from Ghrond's to the bridge to the warcamp, to the well and sometimes scattered around the BO's nearby. Basically what WAR has given us is two portal keeps 100yards apart with a BO/Keep/milegate in between.
Keep swapping IS a major complaint among customers, whether you want to believe it or not.
One thing you also need to realise OPEN RvR to me is more than just camping a BO, Bridge, or Keep. Roaming RvR does not exist and if it does it's so minute compared to what daoc offered. (and I'm not just talking 8 vs 8) ,, Zergs would pass in MANY of the travel routes on a routine basis and you could pretty much find large fights anywhere in the frontier. How many large zerg battles have you seen anywhere BUT a keep or BO? I doubt very seriously that there's been any 6 vs 6 at the graveyard in Talabecland, the entrances to Gunbad, any of the pq's in tier 2-4. In short if ALL you like to do is fight on a bridge, keep, or huddled around a BO, than WaR is for you. If you expect more (LIKE MYTHIC ADVERTISED) than you will be highly disappointed.
So you can summize that after playing on 3 servers you know what the majority of people are doing?
I played order on badlands tier 3 and destro tier 4on dark crag, too highly populated servers and while yes Orvr happened, it happened in between two warcamps usually around the favored keeps. Granted sometimes in Black Fire you might get a couple good fights but it usually takes some searching at the keep.
Tier 2 happened in Ostland at one keep, Tier 3 action was almost always from Ghrond's to the bridge to the warcamp, to the well and sometimes scattered around the BO's nearby. Basically what WAR has given us is two portal keeps 100yards apart with a BO/Keep/milegate in between.
Keep swapping IS a major complaint among customers, whether you want to believe it or not.
One thing you also need to realise OPEN RvR to me is more than just camping a BO, Bridge, or Keep. Roaming RvR does not exist and if it does it's so minute compared to what daoc offered. (and I'm not just talking 8 vs 8) ,, Zergs would pass in MANY of the travel routes on a routine basis and you could pretty much find large fights anywhere in the frontier. How many large zerg battles have you seen anywhere BUT a keep or BO? I doubt very seriously that there's been any 6 vs 6 at the graveyard in Talabecland, the entrances to Gunbad, any of the pq's in tier 2-4. In short if ALL you like to do is fight on a bridge, keep, or huddled around a BO, than WaR is for you. If you expect more (LIKE MYTHIC ADVERTISED) than you will be highly disappointed.
I think the DAOC was really wanting and expecting DAOC 2.