"The let us make man in our image" line is, at least in Christian theology, the earliest reference to the trinity in the Bible. Christianity has one God with three parts, the father, son, and holy spirit...the "us" refers to that according to most Christian theologians.
Question number 2:
You turn the other cheek and allow God to move in the lives of others as he sees fit...it says "vengeance is mine" as in God's, not "vengeance is yours" I have to be careful here though, because many people use this as a way to say "well, we shouldn't throw anyone in jail then because God will take care of them." But this is not what the Bible is saying. it is talking about condemnation of a spiritual variety...The parables about forgiveness are just that, parables...they are stories told in order to give people a better idea of what Jesus meant with his actual teaching...the word parable comes from two greek words, the first, Para, which I'm sure you are all familiar with, means "to go alongside" in this case...the second word, "Bole" means to "throw" (yes, as in bowling) together you get one word that means something that is thrown in alongside the other stuff, in effect...that is what a parable is, it is an illustration to help people understand.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Why would Jesus look heavenward and say, "Forgive them father, for they know not what they do." I mean...wasn't the whole point of him being crucified to cleanse us of all our sins? Why does anyone need forgiven?
oops, i opened this thread to see a discussion, not random hate towards christianity. I think i'll use this thread to show people that age =/= maturity. I really didnt expect to see so many older members in a thread like this.
So you completely skipped the disclaimer that Zorvan put in the opening post? Reading is a magical thing. It can take you to worlds only found in your imagination and pull that rather large, rigid stick out of your anus.
he said philisophical discussion and occasional humor, and i see the exact opposite in this thread. And by putting "oh dont be offended!" in a disclaimer is pointless as well, especially when you put shoddy quotes and discussion material in the OP.
Well valentine I appologize if I offended you I was just expressing my view point and why I thought that way. It was in no way a blow against christians or any other religion.
Disclaimer: I am an Agnostic, I do not believe in any god, my views are not to be taken with the credibility of someone who does believe in the God of Abraham.
Has anyone ever thought that if God did make us in his image, and if we are sinful, greedy, lying, mistaken bastards: is it not possible that God, himself, is not infallible? That he could make mistakes, could be hypocritical, malevolent and vengeful? Could not the mistakes of man be the mistakes of God? I do believe that humanity is overall good, yet very, very naive. A few bad apples with a position of power cause most of the war and injustice in this world; this is very evident. Compared to humanity, God is an awesome power of good, but that doesn't mean he would be infallible. Hell, humanity is probably God's biggest mistake.
made in his image, not made exactly as he...even an image that you look at yourself in the mirrow has flaws because of flaws in the glass....it was never about making "little mini gods" if that were the case then I suppose he could have, but that leads to required love, which we all know is not love at all.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Why would Jesus look heavenward and say, "Forgive them father, for they know not what they do." I mean...wasn't the whole point of him being crucified to cleanse us of all our sins? Why does anyone need forgiven?
it is so that sins would be forgiven....not so that everyone gets a free pass regardless of whether or not they want to believe that.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
oops, i opened this thread to see a discussion, not random hate towards christianity. I think i'll use this thread to show people that age =/= maturity. I really didnt expect to see so many older members in a thread like this.
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
If you believe in God and whatever...knock yourself out. Who am I to stop you. I know what I believe. I have been to the otherside - not once..but twice! Yep. Once from a drug overdose and the other was - self inflicted...OK. I know what I saw and I saw no God nor a devil...what I did see was incredible though. I no longer fear death. I just know it is not my time yet. ^_^
oops, i opened this thread to see a discussion, not random hate towards christianity. I think i'll use this thread to show people that age =/= maturity. I really didnt expect to see so many older members in a thread like this.
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
Disclaimer: I am an Agnostic, I do not believe in any god, my views are not to be taken with the credibility of someone who does believe in the God of Abraham.
Has anyone ever thought that if God did make us in his image, and if we are sinful, greedy, lying, mistaken bastards: is it not possible that God, himself, is not infallible? That he could make mistakes, could be hypocritical, malevolent and vengeful? Could not the mistakes of man be the mistakes of God? I do believe that humanity is overall good, yet very, very naive. A few bad apples with a position of power cause most of the war and injustice in this world; this is very evident. Compared to humanity, God is an awesome power of good, but that doesn't mean he would be infallible. Hell, humanity is probably God's biggest mistake.
made in his image, not made exactly as he...even an image that you look at yourself in the mirror has flaws because of flaws in the glass....it was never about making "little mini gods" if that were the case then I suppose he could have, but that leads to required love, which we all know is not love at all.
That is understandable. I just feel that by making us in "his image," would be more symbolic than physical. like, how we think, how we act, rather than just some ugly ass primate.
oops, i opened this thread to see a discussion, not random hate towards christianity. I think i'll use this thread to show people that age =/= maturity. I really didnt expect to see so many older members in a thread like this.
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
Exactly. There are people in the middle-east that would no doubt put a bullet in my head, just for being me. I would much rather they didn't...I don't hold it against them because they wish to do that. It's just how they are. They are
oops, i opened this thread to see a discussion, not random hate towards christianity. I think i'll use this thread to show people that age =/= maturity. I really didnt expect to see so many older members in a thread like this.
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
i agree i was a bit too sensative about this, but i dont see much sense in people asking religous questions on a gaming forum, i believe if somebody really wants to know about a religion they should call up a pastor or go to church one day and ask their questions there. Or even search them in yahoo or google. Religious discussions on this forum are notorious for ending up being flame fests. Which is still possible, and will probably happen.
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oops, i opened this thread to see a discussion, not random hate towards christianity. I think i'll use this thread to show people that age =/= maturity. I really didnt expect to see so many older members in a thread like this.
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
i agree i was a bit too sensative about this, but i dont see much sense in people asking religous questions on a gaming forum, i believe if somebody really wants to know about a religion they should call up a pastor or go to church one day and ask their questions there. Or even search them in yahoo or google. Religious discussions on this forum are notorious for ending up being flame fests. Which is still possible, and will probably happen.
Well, I do not know about now, I took a "break" from the forum for quite a bit, than didn't return until about a month ago. But, when I was here, this forum was a very tight-nit group of decently intelligent people who liked arguments and discussions about politics, religion, and, of course: games. Gaming was just what brought us all together, and the discussions, the flaming, the attacks, the arguments, and so forth were what brought us even closer. Now most of the people that were here, are not. But there are quite a few of us that are still around.
I don't know about you, but with my group of friends we always discuss philosophy, politics, religion, and literature. Maybe I'm just lucky to have come across an intellectual group of people who accepted me, but I do not know. It doesn't matter where you are, you're going to run into people with different views, some who get angry, and some who just accept you.
oops, i opened this thread to see a discussion, not random hate towards christianity. I think i'll use this thread to show people that age =/= maturity. I really didnt expect to see so many older members in a thread like this.
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
i agree i was a bit too sensative about this, but i dont see much sense in people asking religous questions on a gaming forum, i believe if somebody really wants to know about a religion they should call up a pastor or go to church one day and ask their questions there. Or even search them in yahoo or google. Religious discussions on this forum are notorious for ending up being flame fests. Which is still possible, and will probably happen.
This is not agaming forum. This is an off-topic forum. Here we can discuss things other than gaming if we so choose. That's the beauty of it.
Why are we here in the first place? It says we started off not knowing good and evil, kinda just mindless naked roamers foraging off the earth, then why the whole lets give them the option to know good and evil and lets make them wear clothing ordeal?
Why are we here in the first place? It says we started off not knowing good and evil, kinda just mindless naked roamers foraging off the earth, then why the whole lets give them the option to know good and evil and lets make them wear clothing ordeal?
I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say, but I think i got the drift.
We should all roam around naked! Lets make with the shedding of clothes.
Well the only thing that upsets me about the different religions are basically this. My religion is right yours is wrong, that whole discussion. First of all I have not gone into great detail with the koran or such things however from what I have heard both it and the bible sound remarkably similar yet people will vehemontly discount the other simply because it goes against their own. However I suppose that is just our way.
Why are we here in the first place? It says we started off not knowing good and evil, kinda just mindless naked roamers foraging off the earth, then why the whole lets give them the option to know good and evil and lets make them wear clothing ordeal?
I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say, but I think i got the drift.
We should all roam around naked! Lets make with the shedding of clothes.
Wow...another free spirit. ::hugs Xexima and gives him a flower::
actually i don't delieve the existence of the god. but it seems that we human are bound to the fate. as above said, we ain't free spirit with endless tasks to do in the world.
actually i don't delieve the existence of the god. but it seems that we human are bound to the fate. as above said, we ain't free spirit with endless tasks to do in the world.
So I take it english is not your first language. Perhaps you can say what you just said in your language so we can understand what you just said.
Hey! None of that hippy shit! I'm not a free spirit, just a mild mannered pervert.
I am not really a hippy perse...I am more Roma. Long live the Romani!
Heh the gypsies... I remember seeing them back in Europe when I was a kid... they'd steal my grandma's chickens.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
oops, i opened this thread to see a discussion, not random hate towards christianity. I think i'll use this thread to show people that age =/= maturity. I really didnt expect to see so many older members in a thread like this.
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
i agree i was a bit too sensative about this, but i dont see much sense in people asking religous questions on a gaming forum, i believe if somebody really wants to know about a religion they should call up a pastor or go to church one day and ask their questions there. Or even search them in yahoo or google. Religious discussions on this forum are notorious for ending up being flame fests. Which is still possible, and will probably happen.
This thread is basically to ask, respond, ponder. You must admit, when taken at face value, there are so many discrepancies, contradictions, and even just ridiculous notions in the Bible.
For another thing, even if I were to insult the Bilble outright, I hav that right since, as i believe is stated in that same Bible, God gave me free will.
I have no animosity toward any particular faith, although i have much animosity toward certain sects who use that faith to justify the persecution, and even execution, of others who do not believe the same.
Lastly, the Bible is not "God". Unless you have a copy written in Gods' own handwriting, the bible is a book written by men and "claimed" to be the word of God. So believing fully that some spectral being spoke to a man through a burning bush and told him "write this down", when being admitedly more of the "scientifically inclined" as I am, is a bit of a stretch for me.
I make no claims that there is indeed no God or higher power. I only go with what I can see,hear, and touch.
So please, have an open mind to the random ponderings and musings of the many gathered here. Perhaps in even our jesting, there can be purpose.
Disclaimer: this thread is for philiosophical discussion as well as the occasional humor. No offense is intended or should be taken.
God - "Let us make man in our own image." Who the hell was he talking to and why was he even discussing it? Does God really need permission? This is prevalent throughout Genesis in particular, the plural just keeps popping up. There are three common interpretations: 1.) The "we" is similar to the royal we of the European monarchies, just another way of saying I. 2.) He is speaking to the beings of light he created somewhere in the line AKA angels. 3.) The phrase is a holdover from the stories told by polytheistic religions that actually predate the biblical ones by a few thousand years.
P.S. Look up the Epic of Gilgamesh, the similarities between it and Genesis at certain points are remarkable.
God - "Turn the other cheek." God - "Vengeance is mine" God - "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth." So which is it? Do I let them beat the crap out of me, or do I beat them back? One of the inconsistencies between the old and new testaments. The old message was one of a crude form of justice, generally to be meted out by god alone. The new one was one of forgiveness. On the whole, the answer is let them beat the crap out of you and hope God beats the crap out of him afterwards (not literally)
If we were made in Gods image, why are we forbidden to look upon God? The answer to this one hinges heavily upon the meaning of the term image. I always figured it meant a similarity in the ability to feel compassion, or a similarily ephemeral trait, rather than mere physical similarity.
When Moses was on that ark for 40 days and 40 nights, why didn't he swat those two damned mosquitos? Better question is, how in the hell did he get everything on there? Two of just the insect populations would have been more than enough mass to sink a dozen arks of the described size. Discuss.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
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Answer to question number 1:
"The let us make man in our image" line is, at least in Christian theology, the earliest reference to the trinity in the Bible. Christianity has one God with three parts, the father, son, and holy spirit...the "us" refers to that according to most Christian theologians.
Question number 2:
You turn the other cheek and allow God to move in the lives of others as he sees fit...it says "vengeance is mine" as in God's, not "vengeance is yours" I have to be careful here though, because many people use this as a way to say "well, we shouldn't throw anyone in jail then because God will take care of them." But this is not what the Bible is saying. it is talking about condemnation of a spiritual variety...The parables about forgiveness are just that, parables...they are stories told in order to give people a better idea of what Jesus meant with his actual teaching...the word parable comes from two greek words, the first, Para, which I'm sure you are all familiar with, means "to go alongside" in this case...the second word, "Bole" means to "throw" (yes, as in bowling) together you get one word that means something that is thrown in alongside the other stuff, in effect...that is what a parable is, it is an illustration to help people understand.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Why would Jesus look heavenward and say, "Forgive them father, for they know not what they do." I mean...wasn't the whole point of him being crucified to cleanse us of all our sins? Why does anyone need forgiven?
So you completely skipped the disclaimer that Zorvan put in the opening post? Reading is a magical thing. It can take you to worlds only found in your imagination and pull that rather large, rigid stick out of your anus.
he said philisophical discussion and occasional humor, and i see the exact opposite in this thread. And by putting "oh dont be offended!" in a disclaimer is pointless as well, especially when you put shoddy quotes and discussion material in the OP.
Well valentine I appologize if I offended you I was just expressing my view point and why I thought that way. It was in no way a blow against christians or any other religion.
made in his image, not made exactly as he...even an image that you look at yourself in the mirrow has flaws because of flaws in the glass....it was never about making "little mini gods" if that were the case then I suppose he could have, but that leads to required love, which we all know is not love at all.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
it is so that sins would be forgiven....not so that everyone gets a free pass regardless of whether or not they want to believe that.
Your argument is like a two legged dog with an eating disorder...weak and unbalanced.
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
If you believe in God and whatever...knock yourself out. Who am I to stop you. I know what I believe. I have been to the otherside - not once..but twice! Yep. Once from a drug overdose and the other was - self inflicted...OK. I know what I saw and I saw no God nor a devil...what I did see was incredible though. I no longer fear death. I just know it is not my time yet. ^_^
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
made in his image, not made exactly as he...even an image that you look at yourself in the mirror has flaws because of flaws in the glass....it was never about making "little mini gods" if that were the case then I suppose he could have, but that leads to required love, which we all know is not love at all.
That is understandable. I just feel that by making us in "his image," would be more symbolic than physical. like, how we think, how we act, rather than just some ugly ass primate.
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
Exactly. There are people in the middle-east that would no doubt put a bullet in my head, just for being me. I would much rather they didn't...I don't hold it against them because they wish to do that. It's just how they are. They are
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
i agree i was a bit too sensative about this, but i dont see much sense in people asking religous questions on a gaming forum, i believe if somebody really wants to know about a religion they should call up a pastor or go to church one day and ask their questions there. Or even search them in yahoo or google. Religious discussions on this forum are notorious for ending up being flame fests. Which is still possible, and will probably happen.
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Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
i agree i was a bit too sensative about this, but i dont see much sense in people asking religous questions on a gaming forum, i believe if somebody really wants to know about a religion they should call up a pastor or go to church one day and ask their questions there. Or even search them in yahoo or google. Religious discussions on this forum are notorious for ending up being flame fests. Which is still possible, and will probably happen.
Well, I do not know about now, I took a "break" from the forum for quite a bit, than didn't return until about a month ago. But, when I was here, this forum was a very tight-nit group of decently intelligent people who liked arguments and discussions about politics, religion, and, of course: games. Gaming was just what brought us all together, and the discussions, the flaming, the attacks, the arguments, and so forth were what brought us even closer. Now most of the people that were here, are not. But there are quite a few of us that are still around.
I don't know about you, but with my group of friends we always discuss philosophy, politics, religion, and literature. Maybe I'm just lucky to have come across an intellectual group of people who accepted me, but I do not know. It doesn't matter where you are, you're going to run into people with different views, some who get angry, and some who just accept you.
Sorry.. bit off topic.
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
i agree i was a bit too sensative about this, but i dont see much sense in people asking religous questions on a gaming forum, i believe if somebody really wants to know about a religion they should call up a pastor or go to church one day and ask their questions there. Or even search them in yahoo or google. Religious discussions on this forum are notorious for ending up being flame fests. Which is still possible, and will probably happen.
This is not agaming forum. This is an off-topic forum. Here we can discuss things other than gaming if we so choose. That's the beauty of it.
Why are we here in the first place? It says we started off not knowing good and evil, kinda just mindless naked roamers foraging off the earth, then why the whole lets give them the option to know good and evil and lets make them wear clothing ordeal?
I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say, but I think i got the drift.
We should all roam around naked! Lets make with the shedding of clothes.
Well the only thing that upsets me about the different religions are basically this. My religion is right yours is wrong, that whole discussion. First of all I have not gone into great detail with the koran or such things however from what I have heard both it and the bible sound remarkably similar yet people will vehemontly discount the other simply because it goes against their own. However I suppose that is just our way.
I'm not exactly sure what you are trying to say, but I think i got the drift.
We should all roam around naked! Lets make with the shedding of clothes.
Wow...another free spirit. ::hugs Xexima and gives him a flower::
Hey! None of that hippy shit! I'm not a free spirit, just a mild mannered pervert.
I am not really a hippy perse...I am more Roma. Long live the Romani!
actually i don't delieve the existence of the god. but it seems that we human are bound to the fate. as above said, we ain't free spirit with endless tasks to do in the world.
So I take it english is not your first language. Perhaps you can say what you just said in your language so we can understand what you just said.
I am not really a hippy perse...I am more Roma. Long live the Romani!
Heh the gypsies... I remember seeing them back in Europe when I was a kid... they'd steal my grandma's chickens.
No required quests! And if I decide I want to be an assassin-cartographer-dancer-pastry chef who lives only to stalk and kill interior decorators, then that's who I want to be, even if it takes me four years to max all the skills and everyone else thinks I'm freaking nuts. -Madimorga-
Hey, this thread is the least hateful of all christianity threads i've ever read on this forum, for the most part we are being respectful. No one has flamed christianity nor those who believe in it. And no, age does not mean maturity, and this is not a good example of that. You are getting offended at peoples views, not personal nor communal attacks.
i dont mind people posting their views on a subject, as long as they are respectful to other people in their "views"
Sometimes peoples views are interpreted as "disrespectful", when if said in any other way would no longer be that person's views. People need to not be as sensitive to how someone feels on a subject. Many middle eastern people hate america, and the people that it houses. Should you or I feel offended that someone hates us for our views on freedom? No. Exactly the same in this case
i agree i was a bit too sensative about this, but i dont see much sense in people asking religous questions on a gaming forum, i believe if somebody really wants to know about a religion they should call up a pastor or go to church one day and ask their questions there. Or even search them in yahoo or google. Religious discussions on this forum are notorious for ending up being flame fests. Which is still possible, and will probably happen.
This thread is basically to ask, respond, ponder. You must admit, when taken at face value, there are so many discrepancies, contradictions, and even just ridiculous notions in the Bible.
For another thing, even if I were to insult the Bilble outright, I hav that right since, as i believe is stated in that same Bible, God gave me free will.
I have no animosity toward any particular faith, although i have much animosity toward certain sects who use that faith to justify the persecution, and even execution, of others who do not believe the same.
Lastly, the Bible is not "God". Unless you have a copy written in Gods' own handwriting, the bible is a book written by men and "claimed" to be the word of God. So believing fully that some spectral being spoke to a man through a burning bush and told him "write this down", when being admitedly more of the "scientifically inclined" as I am, is a bit of a stretch for me.
I make no claims that there is indeed no God or higher power. I only go with what I can see,hear, and touch.
So please, have an open mind to the random ponderings and musings of the many gathered here. Perhaps in even our jesting, there can be purpose.
Oh, and gypsy chicks are hot.
If you get a chance Zorvan, watch the movie Gypsy Woman(2001). I think you'll like it.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway