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Should Prostitution and Marijuana use be legalized?
Brenelael
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I started this debate in another thread and it was sort of off topic so I thought I would start a new thread with a poll to see how everyone feels on the subject. Please read my whole post before you vote.
Prostitution - If this was made legal it could be regulated and taxed. Laws could be passed to protect prostitutes by requiring them to take regular medical exams and requiring them to operate out of a brothel or on-call agency. This would get them off the streets and make sure that they are disease free. Also laws requiring them to use birth control and condoms could help limit the spread of STDs and unwanted pregnancies/abortions. This would take them away from some very dangerous individuals (pimps) that keep these women/men in prostitution by drug addiction, physical abuse and taking most of their income so they are always in debt to said pimps. It should be legalized on the federal level and heavily regulated and taxed as it is a victimless crime.
Marijuana use - If this was legalized it also could be regulated and taxed on many levels. Growers should be required by law to acquire a federal growing license that would have to be renewed yearly. This would regulate how much is grown, where it is grown and who it is sold to (Licensed distributors). Distributors would also be required to get a yearly license to buy from growers, package and resell to retail points so this would also be strictly controlled. Then each pack of marijuana cigarettes or bags of loose buds could be taxed on both the state and federal levels when they are bought by the end consumer. This would generate billions of dollars for local, state and the federal government each year. Marijuana use has been proven to be less harmful than either alcohol or tobacco so there is really no reason why it should be illegal.
Legalizing these two things would generate billions of dollars in untapped tax money for the federal government, create new jobs and free up a very large portion of law enforcement to go after real criminals. This could possibly have several long term effects for the US. It could help the economy recover and possibly start to pay off the huge national debt or at the very least stop it from climbing. Also the extra law enforcement could actually help to decrease crime overall. It really is a win/win scenario for everyone involved. The US really needs to get rid of these outdated Victorian ethics. They really are doing us more harm than good.
Please vote and post any debate on this issue that you feel is needed. I know that this is a touchy subject for some of the more religious people so try and keep the discussion civil and on topic.
Bren
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Prostitution should not be allowed because the government is only encouraging young teenager girls to have sex for money...that I do not agree with, but for Marijuana it should of been legalized ALONG time ago, and the government wouldn't of had to spend BILLIONS of dollars trying to fight it...because it doesn't matter how much they fight, we will always be able to get it no matter what they do....Anyhow I am a Canadian and I think the American government is dumb in general...I don't think there is any hope for you guys because there will always be debt to pay and jobs to be lost... Everything is imported and the huge population you have to support for welfare and child support is redicolous.
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People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
I see your points and agree to a point. I would assume that just like Tobacco and Alcohol there would be laws passed to limit those partaking in either Prostitution or Marijuana use to be at least 18 if not 21. It should still be illegal for minors to participate on either the supply or the consumer end of either of these businesses. Sorry I should have stipulated that in my original post.
Bren
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It shouldn't be regulated by the federal goverment. The states themselves should determine those kind of laws.
Why is it the federal goverment wants to throw people into a state facility even if the state is fine with it?
This could happen only if the federal government stopped punishing state and local governments for passing such laws. This is why I personally feel that it should be done at the federal level as this would bypass this altogether.
Bren
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Yes,
Sometimes I wish I was a prostitute. I hear they make a heck of a lot of money doing what they do. And don't get me started on weed, boy oh boy if weed was legal the world would be a much happier place. There would be more smiles and laughter would fill the air with harmony and love. Let freedom ring my friends, LET FREEDOM RING!!!!
Ichben Einberliner
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I personally don't know alot on the matter of the laws and state of America... but i'm pretty sure making cannabis legal will increase crime. If you take a look at somewhere like Amsterdamn (where cannabis and prostituion is legal) which has the top crime rate and is a country in poverty.
Amsterdamn clearly shows that legalizing cannabis and prostitution doesn't do that good to a country . However i can't wait to go to Amsterdamn gonna have some crazy times :P
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I don't like the idea of having someone who won an election 1000 miles from where I live determin how I live. Federal goverment should stick to the big issues and leave the smaller ones to the states, it's not there place to dictate every single thing.
I would vote to keep them illegal, however I don't like to be told how to live by people who I have no choice in the matter of electing. And this goes for a lot more than pot and hooks, those issues are tiny.
I don't like the idea of having someone who won an election 1000 miles from where I live determin how I live. Federal goverment should stick to the big issues and leave the smaller ones to the states, it's not there place to dictate every single thing.
I totally agree. If the federal government would give state governments the go ahead to pass such laws I also would be for it being done at the state level. Even so there needs to be a fundamental change in attitudes toward these issues in Washington D.C. for it to be done. Until that happens the states are really powerless unless they want to get all of their federal funding cut out from under them. Nevada was only able to do this by legalizing gambling as well. I'm not for the total legalization of gambling as that has proven to increase crime dramatically.
Bren
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The states are supposed to override the federal goverment..............
** i mean were supposed**
They probably would be legal if there weren't so many brain dead people out there...we have so many laws made because some moron didn't use common sense.
i read the labels on so many things and i'm like f*** that is common sense but as my friends point out its on the label now because some dumbass did it, then wanted to blame everyone else for his stupid mistake.
"The great thing about human language is that it prevents us from sticking to the matter at hand."
- Lewis Thomas
Yes they are but it doesn't always work out that way. If a state passes a law making something legal that is illegal at the federal level they risk losing all federal support. Nothing is legally stopping a state from doing so but it would be crazy stupid for them to do it unless the federal laws change first allowing it without repercussions. This is my point.
Edit: I knew I should have quoted. This is a reply to Pyrich two posts above.
Bren
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Good point.
I'm all for the federal goverment, as long as it isn't near impossible for the people (collective, not individual) to resist their policies.
Yes,
Sometimes I wish I was a prostitute. I hear they make a heck of a lot of money doing what they do. And don't get me started on weed, boy oh boy if weed was legal the world would be a much happier place. There would be more smiles and laughter would fill the air with harmony and love. Let freedom ring my friends, LET FREEDOM RING!!!!
Ichben Einberliner
yeah, weed legalized there would be more smiles and laughter, but there would be more gun fights, gangs, and murders. let freedom ring? why the hell do you think things are made illegal? to protect you. if everyone was on weed, what do you think the national IQ would be? it sucks now but it could get worse. How is technology gonna get any better if all of the scientists are smoking doobies on their lunch breaks.
think about it buddy.
Yes,
Sometimes I wish I was a prostitute. I hear they make a heck of a lot of money doing what they do. And don't get me started on weed, boy oh boy if weed was legal the world would be a much happier place. There would be more smiles and laughter would fill the air with harmony and love. Let freedom ring my friends, LET FREEDOM RING!!!!
Ichben Einberliner
yeah, weed legalized there would be more smiles and laughter, but there would be more gun fights, gangs, and murders. let freedom ring? why the hell do you think things are made illegal? to protect you. if everyone was on weed, what do you think the national IQ would be? it sucks now but it could get worse. How is technology gonna get any better if all of the scientists are smoking doobies on their lunch breaks.
think about it buddy.
Explain how there would be more gun fights, gangs, and murders. Your whole post is extremist, if we legalized pot, everyone would suddenly start smoking it, society would grind to a halt from lack of productivity, and crime would abound? There's no logical basis to any of that, you're just scaremongering.
To your point on why things are made illegal, why isn't alcohol illegal? That would sure as hell protect quite a few people. How about a car? Would prevent quite a few car accidents. How about making it illegal to have sex? No sex = no std's being spread around, think of all the AIDS cases we're prevented!
Multiplayer Games!
Doubt you can get a ban on the deadiest thing in America, the car. But I bet getting the speed limit down to a safe limit would be a reachable goal.
All vehicals henceforth, shall be engineered to go no faster than 30 miles an hour. Put an end to a plague deadlier than tobacco, booze, and war all rolled into one. And save muchos fuel, which should make the greenies happy.
Well no chance of cannabis being legalized in the UK, today it has gone up to class B.
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Wow, have you ever even smoked Marijuana? It doen't sound like it from your post. There are more gun fights, gangs and murders because it's illegal... not the other way around. This is because the major bulk of Marijuana related crime has to do with trafficing, distribution and possession. If they made it legal there would still be drug related violence I'm sure but it would give them one less drug to fight over. When was the last time you heard about a Marijuana related shooting or any crime involving it except for people getting busted for possession or distribution (or crimes related to possession and distribution)? They are very few and very far between. Alcohol generates far more crime than Marijuana ever did and it's legal, regulated and taxed.
As for Marijuana use on the job it should be treated just like Alcohol. Ever had a job where an employer didn't mind if you showed up drunk? Didn't think so. Use some common sense here please as you're just spouting nonsense.
Bren
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Well seeing how marijuana is basically in every kids pocket and book bag at school, and somehow they're still scoring good grades (better than mine tbh) and not being entirely retarded, I think it's bout time to just legalize it and be done with the issue.
Either way, its so easy to come across these days I don't think it matters, I could get weed within the hour if I really wanted it.
Prostitution i have no opinion on..
edit: At the very least marijuana should be legalized for hospital and medical use
You know every time this subject comes up, I'm amazed that there's even an arguement. The government has no right to tell consenting adults what they can and can't do with their genitalia and it doesn't have the right to tell consenting adults what substances they can and can't put into their bodies.
Freedom: It's more important than safety.
People are going to do what they want to do
Laws stop few people from doing what they want.
Yes,
Sometimes I wish I was a prostitute. I hear they make a heck of a lot of money doing what they do. And don't get me started on weed, boy oh boy if weed was legal the world would be a much happier place. There would be more smiles and laughter would fill the air with harmony and love. Let freedom ring my friends, LET FREEDOM RING!!!!
Ichben Einberliner
yeah, weed legalized there would be more smiles and laughter, but there would be more gun fights, gangs, and murders. let freedom ring? why the hell do you think things are made illegal? to protect you. if everyone was on weed, what do you think the national IQ would be? it sucks now but it could get worse. How is technology gonna get any better if all of the scientists are smoking doobies on their lunch breaks.
think about it buddy.
Explain how there would be more gun fights, gangs, and murders. Your whole post is extremist, if we legalized pot, everyone would suddenly start smoking it, society would grind to a halt from lack of productivity, and crime would abound? There's no logical basis to any of that, you're just scaremongering.
To your point on why things are made illegal, why isn't alcohol illegal? That would sure as hell protect quite a few people. How about a car? Would prevent quite a few car accidents. How about making it illegal to have sex? No sex = no std's being spread around, think of all the AIDS cases we're prevented!
Nice one Asprn. Eagle was being unreasonable and you put him in his place. You sir are my hero.
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Ichben Einberliner
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Already have this. Its called ' Medical Marijuana ' its available in 14 states in the U.S. This is as far as they're going to take legalizing marijuana. Simply move to the state, go to any flimzy doctor ( not hard to find ) and say you're depressed, and vuala.. You're then able to go to any head shop and pick from an assortment of buds.
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What if Paul Revere was like the boy who cried wolf....?
Originally posted by Hazmal
What does he say when people ask what he did? "My mommy was irking me yo - I wanted to keep pwning nubs on my xbox, so I roughed her up with a hardshell. That is just how I roll."
Already have this. Its called ' Medical Marijuana ' its available in 14 states in the U.S. This is as far as they're going to take legalizing marijuana. Simply move to the state, go to any flimzy doctor ( not hard to find ) and say you're depressed, and vuala.. You're then able to go to any head shop and pick from an assortment of buds.
This I know already but the average person shouldn't have to lie to get something that should just be legal anyways... it just doesn't make any sense. I also live in a state that has laws for medical Marijuana and it's not quite that easy to get here. They make you go through a long process just to qualify and then they have you on a list and watch you like a hawk. My cousin was on it for a while at the request of a doctor for his Asthma and he finally gave it up just because they were making his life a living nightmare because of it. He just started buying it illegally after a while because it was just a whole lot easier. Why he got prescribed something that makes you hack and cough for Asthma I never could quite figure out though. lol
Bren
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Already have this. Its called ' Medical Marijuana ' its available in 14 states in the U.S. This is as far as they're going to take legalizing marijuana. Simply move to the state, go to any flimzy doctor ( not hard to find ) and say you're depressed, and vuala.. You're then able to go to any head shop and pick from an assortment of buds.
This I know already but the average person shouldn't have to lie to get something that should just be legal anyways... it just doesn't make any sense. I also live in a state that has laws for medical Marijuana and it's not quite that easy to get here. They make you go through a long process just to qualify and then they have you on a list and watch you like a hawk. My cousin was on it for a while at the request of a doctor for his Asthma and he finally gave it up just because they were making his life a living nightmare because of it. He just started buying it illegally after a while because it was just a whole lot easier. Why he got prescribed something that makes you hack and cough for Asthma I never could quite figure out though. lol
Bren
Asthma?! lmfao. I had mild asthma and when I smoke weed I dont think it helps lolol
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What if Paul Revere was like the boy who cried wolf....?
Originally posted by Hazmal
What does he say when people ask what he did? "My mommy was irking me yo - I wanted to keep pwning nubs on my xbox, so I roughed her up with a hardshell. That is just how I roll."