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Now that Bush is gone.
Pyrich
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Which one is going Home. The one that left Texas www.youtube.com/watch or the one that lived in DC for the last 8 years www.youtube.com/watch
I think the dude either stroked out somewhere in the begining, or he was a bit better at the speech craft than he let on to.
Ah well, good riddence and lets hope Obama doesn't have a change in speaking any time soon.
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"Pre-senile dementia"?
It could be.
I always thought he was demented anyway, although I didn't mean it in a medical kinda way.
He'll be the GOP's new Reagan. He had started to loose it in his second term but had a better group of handlers to gloss it over.
Maybe your right, maybe your wrong. Could just be that he has to speak slower because people just don't seem to understand what the guy was trying to do for this country and just what the media has been telling them to think.
It's well known for those that payed attention that Bush is a good speaker when he is not reading his speeches. Most of the politicians at that level are good speakers, it's just become the norm to have other people write the speeches because they have to give way too many of them as it is.
I hope Obama has a change in his speaking habits. I hope he starts spouting out solutions instead of "Change", spouts out ideas instead of "Bush did this" rhetoric that the Democrats clung to to win the election. Starts talking about cutting taxes instead of giving money away. Economists have already shown over and over, along with history that government spending in recessions does not help the economy but yall just don't care. Obama won, Obama is in the White House, Obama the media Champion will lead us to "Change".
The only change your gonna get out of Obama is the difference in your pocket book at the end of the next 4 years. Enjoy "Change"!
When a piscating wizard floods every thread I can understand why people leave.
Probably you are right.....................
How about the billion of dollars wasted on 2 useless wars by the demented one?
Money that came out of your precious pocket, you didn't seem to mind that back then, did ya?
National debt under Bush went through the roof because of that, but that counts as nothing, doesn't it?
Yes you are right, probably there won't be too much of a change in that area.
Although on a positive note, you won't have thousands of dead Marines flying back in black sacks.
I think he has been hitting the
. I wouldn't blame him...being president of the US must seriously suck.
lol.. dude you know that second video is edited right? ya I thought so.
anyway, its funny as hell.. not as funny as this though, they slowed his voice down.. its absolutely hilarious
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrEdjaJt9iY&feature=related
OR this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9GhPDL3VSo4&feature=related
I dont think the second one here is an edit though.. if it is its pretty good (and it wouldnt surprise me)
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Probably you are right.....................
How about the billion of dollars wasted on 2 useless wars by the demented one?
Money that came out of your precious pocket, you didn't seem to mind that back then, did ya?
National debt under Bush went through the roof because of that, but that counts as nothing, doesn't it?
Yes you are right, probably there won't be too much of a change in that area.
Although on a positive note, you won't have thousands of dead Marines flying back in black sacks.
Well In his First MONTH we got a New Trillion in Debt... I think he is Dooing swell Following in Bushes coattails...
If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude; greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.
Samuel Adams
Well In his First MONTH we got a New Trillion in Debt... I think he is Dooing swell Following in Bushes coattails...
Time will tell on Obama just like it has on Bush. Now all I'm wondering is if he's going to send troops into Pakistan. He has started the surge into Afghanistan, good luck to those on there way to original war.
In the mean time, you can keep tabs on the promises he has made HERE.
** I'm guessing that alot of things will have to be put on hold for a while of course, this recession and the possible passing of ths "stimulas" plan.
As the republicians debating against the plan as it is now say.
"To give the proposed economic stimulus plan some perspective, "if you started the day Jesus Christ was born and spent $1 million every day since then, you still wouldn’t have spent $1 trillion."
Thats alot of $$$ that'll be spent, hope they think it over pretty well. As our generation wont be the only one to have to deal with it.
was he not just the best lame duck president ever. He was AWESOME his last few months.
Probably you are right.....................
How about the billion of dollars wasted on 2 useless wars by the demented one?
Money that came out of your precious pocket, you didn't seem to mind that back then, did ya?
National debt under Bush went through the roof because of that, but that counts as nothing, doesn't it?
Yes you are right, probably there won't be too much of a change in that area.
Although on a positive note, you won't have thousands of dead Marines flying back in black sacks.
Well In his First MONTH we got a New Trillion in Debt... I think he is Dooing swell Following in Bushes coattails...
Yes but it's been spent to bail out the economy, not to finance 2 pointless wars.
Big difference....................
A.) They were far from pointless, but I'm not going to bother arguing that here
B.) The funding for those wars did not and are not causing a 70% increase in inflation rates. (Oh sure, give me extra money, I'm gonna need it when buying a pack of freaking gum suddenly costs me $10.50)
C.) Bush did the exact same thing a year ago, people reamed him out for it and its failure to make any long term impact.
D.) With the prior example, what in the f***ing hell makes you think that this will work any better than the previous attempt? In point of fact, by the very definition of the term recession, it is likely to have even less of an affect than it would have before the mortgage company crash.
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A.) They were far from pointless, but I'm not going to bother arguing that here
B.) The funding for those wars did not and are not causing a 70% increase in inflation rates. (Oh sure, give me extra money, I'm gonna need it when buying a pack of freaking gum suddenly costs me $10.50)
C.) Bush did the exact same thing a year ago, people reamed him out for it and its failure to make any long term impact.
D.) With the prior example, what in the f***ing hell makes you think that this will work any better than the previous attempt? In point of fact, by the very definition of the term recession, it is likely to have even less of an affect than it would have before the mortgage company crash.
Calm down
Before replying try to read the rest of the thread.
You will realise I was plainly replying to someone who said that Obama was only after your money.
I just pointed out Bush did worse, by financing 2 wars which could be avoided.
Yet that guy seems not to realize that the money to finance those 2 wars came out of his pocket.
At no point I suggested everything Obama was doing was good.
bush is gone, the country is shattered in ruin, with the global reputation on the all-time low.
A.) They were far from pointless, but I'm not going to bother arguing that here
B.) The funding for those wars did not and are not causing a 70% increase in inflation rates. (Oh sure, give me extra money, I'm gonna need it when buying a pack of freaking gum suddenly costs me $10.50)
C.) Bush did the exact same thing a year ago, people reamed him out for it and its failure to make any long term impact.
D.) With the prior example, what in the f***ing hell makes you think that this will work any better than the previous attempt? In point of fact, by the very definition of the term recession, it is likely to have even less of an affect than it would have before the mortgage company crash.
Calm down
Before replying try to read the rest of the thread.
You will realise I was plainly replying to someone who said that Obama was only after your money.
I just pointed out Bush did worse, by financing 2 wars which could be avoided.
Yet that guy seems not to realize that the money to finance those 2 wars came out of his pocket.
At no point I suggested everything Obama was doing was good.
Whoa whoa, I never said that Obama was after my money. I was saying that Obama will be responsible for me not having any money. Through his ridiculous amounts of spending just in the first month.
You do sound like a broken record you know. Do you have anything else besides "2 wars" to talk about?
Everything the government does comes out of our pockets. Duh.
Of course we don't really care that the country is democratic, that a sadistic bastard is gone no matter how he got in. Nah, no one really cares about that.
When a piscating wizard floods every thread I can understand why people leave.
Maybe your right, maybe your wrong. Could just be that he has to speak slower because people just don't seem to understand what the guy was trying to do for this country and just what the media has been telling them to think.
It's well known for those that payed attention that Bush is a good speaker when he is not reading his speeches. Most of the politicians at that level are good speakers, it's just become the norm to have other people write the speeches because they have to give way too many of them as it is.
I hope Obama has a change in his speaking habits. I hope he starts spouting out solutions instead of "Change", spouts out ideas instead of "Bush did this" rhetoric that the Democrats clung to to win the election. Starts talking about cutting taxes instead of giving money away. Economists have already shown over and over, along with history that government spending in recessions does not help the economy but yall just don't care. Obama won, Obama is in the White House, Obama the media Champion will lead us to "Change".
The only change your gonna get out of Obama is the difference in your pocket book at the end of the next 4 years. Enjoy "Change"!
Yeah really 4 years of this crap and all we will have left is a bit of change in our pockets (if we are lucky).
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A.) They were far from pointless, but I'm not going to bother arguing that here
B.) The funding for those wars did not and are not causing a 70% increase in inflation rates. (Oh sure, give me extra money, I'm gonna need it when buying a pack of freaking gum suddenly costs me $10.50)
C.) Bush did the exact same thing a year ago, people reamed him out for it and its failure to make any long term impact.
D.) With the prior example, what in the f***ing hell makes you think that this will work any better than the previous attempt? In point of fact, by the very definition of the term recession, it is likely to have even less of an affect than it would have before the mortgage company crash.
Calm down
Before replying try to read the rest of the thread.
You will realise I was plainly replying to someone who said that Obama was only after your money.
I just pointed out Bush did worse, by financing 2 wars which could be avoided.
Yet that guy seems not to realize that the money to finance those 2 wars came out of his pocket.
At no point I suggested everything Obama was doing was good.
Whoa whoa, I never said that Obama was after my money. I was saying that Obama will be responsible for me not having any money. Through his ridiculous amounts of spending just in the first month.
You do sound like a broken record you know. Do you have anything else besides "2 wars" to talk about?
Everything the government does comes out of our pockets. Duh.
Of course we don't really care that the country is democratic, that a sadistic bastard is gone no matter how he got in. Nah, no one really cares about that.
Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.
For the so called more "sharp" around here those are speech errors and everyone is bound to do them in their lifetime. Never less for the so called "perfectionists" that might've not watched the O'Reiily interview or better yet watched Obama during his press conferences during January he has commited the word repeat speech error instead of the "um's" of Bush. (Edit: Or I dare say stuttering)
Likely we'll have to put up with 8 years of Obama's garbage.
Have to make the first "historical re-election" after all since they fulfilled the so called "historical election". No matter if he's going to follow the far-left or not. No matter if he's just another politician or not.
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Do you realze that saying that Obama will be responsible for you not having any money is the same as saying Obama is after your money?
As for Obama spending money, he is not the only President in the world to do so.
I can assure you that pretty much every other politician in the western civilization is doing so.
It is not something he is doing to fulfil his socialist ambitions (because that's where your problem is).
It is something that is necessary at the moment, the global economy is in meltdown and politicians are trying to do whatever they think is best to get out of this situation.
Of course Obama will do things differently from a Republican administration, but if it was the other way round and Reps were in power they would have spent as much probably, we will never know.
My point was (my broken record) is that you are so worried about how Obama spend your money, whilst you weren't so keen on complaining on how Bush spent your money.
In my view spending money trying to save the economy (of course we won't know if it will work), is more justified than spending money for 2 wars which brought so few benefits to America.
Apparently for you, financing 2 wars is better than try to save the economy, well if you are happy with it I am happy too..........................to each his own.
It seems our priorities are different.
I don't think anyone truly understands the sheer amount of work that goes into being president verse being a governor. I am pretty sure as Governor, Bush wrote his own speeches. Thus why he could do the speech without even looking down. As President you can tell he did not write his speeches.
Personally, I would take billions wasted on 2 wars instead of trillions wasted creating a recession.
Do you realze that saying that Obama will be responsible for you not having any money is the same as saying Obama is after your money?
As for Obama spending money, he is not the only President in the world to do so.
I can assure you that pretty much every other politician in the western civilization is doing so.
It is not something he is doing to fulfil his socialist ambitions (because that's where your problem is).
It is something that is necessary at the moment, the global economy is in meltdown and politicians are trying to do whatever they think is best to get out of this situation.
Of course Obama will do things differently from a Republican administration, but if it was the other way round and Reps were in power they would have spent as much probably, we will never know.
My point was (my broken record) is that you are so worried about how Obama spend your money, whilst you weren't so keen on complaining on how Bush spent your money.
In my view spending money trying to save the economy (of course we won't know if it will work), is more justified than spending money for 2 wars which brought so few benefits to America.
Apparently for you, financing 2 wars is better than try to save the economy, well if you are happy with it I am happy too..........................to each his own.
It seems our priorities are different.
Dude, seriously, stop putting words into my fingers.
There is a big difference in Obama trying to spend our money and the dark overlord trying to take our money.
And yes, I do have a problem when I see politicians trying to be socialists. The government is trying to control things instead of an Economy controling things. The government is trying to be your daddy and treating the public like little kids that cannot handle things themselves.
For years politicians have spent money in efforts to try and control us. It's been proven that cutting taxes, reducing government spending on worthless projects and the reduction of goverment will stabilize the economy far better then spending our way into debt faster than Oprah can eat a Twinkie. Spending on the war didn't help but neither does what Obama is trying to do. Hopefully Obama won't spend all our money when it comes time to rebuild a city after the terrorists blow it up.
I'm from Texas and even I know that quite a few things Bush did over the course of his presidency resembled the south bound product of a north bound Donkey. But you have narrowed your view so far that you can only think of the USA instead of the world. So few benefits to America? Sadam was freaking EVIL. Now he's DEAD. The first chance the Iraqi's had they killed him. They didn't put him back into office. They were happy he was gone. The whole country breaths easier now. But you can't see that. You just the the amount of money it took to get there. Your worried about money, they are worried about life.
I do think our priorities are different.
To go back on topic, if you had the media constantly looking for something wrong, do you think you might talk a little slower, make sure every word was the right one, or just blunder around saying anything and everything knowing the media will make you the next water cooler joke in an instant.
When a piscating wizard floods every thread I can understand why people leave.
Don't "dude" me please, I am not trying to twist anybody words in order to win debates.
Your own quote:
" I never said that Obama was after my money. I was saying that Obama will be responsible for me not having any money."
I am not twisting anything here, just quoting your own words.
Obama being after your money means that he is seeking more of your earned cash through raising taxes to finance bailouts (certainly it didn't mean that he physically put the hands in your pockets and stole your money.........).
Obama being responsible for you not having money, to me means the same as the above.
Both involve you having less money with Obama in charge (or none), I don't see the difference that you see frankly...............
If you wanted to explain a different concept you should have done more clearly.
In the end regardless the meaning of the sentences, what you are scared of is that under Obama you will end up broken, and I believe we both agree with this interpretation, or am I wrong?
As for having different priorities, we both agree on that, as I confirmed in the post above yours.
Therefore there is no much of a discussion about that.
You are happy with the government spending money on wars, I would prefer they use my money to get us out of this economic crysis (Ideally I would like they don't get my money if possible, of course).
I am not going to try to change your mind on how you' ll like your tax money to be spent, I just wanted to make you aware that although you might be skeptical about Obama (and I respect that), under Bush, America national debt raised considerably..............but I am sure you are aware of that.
In my view spending money trying to save the economy (of course we won't know if it will work), is more justified than spending money for 2 wars which brought so few benefits to America.
Are you that dumb? When you got killers that want to kill your family what do you do? Sit around? Or buy a gun and man up. Bush man up.
You got Obama that came from the worst corrupted government in the nation. Only 15% of the Stimulus bills actually stimulate the economy and you know who added it? The Republicans. The other 85% goes to OBAMA. 85% of PURE PORK! He’s not going to help the poor. Liberals never help the poor they help themselves.
Easy tiger.............
First of all neither Afghanistan or Iraq attacked the US, Al Qaida did (financed by Saudis), and Bin Laden is still alive, so get a clue.
Whether you agree with the war or not is your personal opinion and from the facts listed above, I didn't agree.
But this is not the subject of this thread, open a new one if you feel the need to defend the war, I will be glad to take part.
Second I do not care what Obama is doing or is going to do, I made it clear more than once in this thread.
I was just answering Sargoth first post, and I am not going to explain every single one who just read the last 2 post, my position.
So if you didn't followed the story from the beginning you should not reply to me with stimulus numbers I care little of.
A.) They were far from pointless, but I'm not going to bother arguing that here
Talking of pointless wars, it looks like Obama is going to do his best to keep everyone in Afghanistan for the next 8 years.
8 More years! FFS. The Russians stayed for 20. What a waste of time, money and life.
@ the chaps who all laugh at Bush being a half-wit, the same element of society all said exactly the same things about Reagun. The old jokes are still the best I guess. Is it that Republican presidents are all half wits or is it that their detractors all are.
Clinton loved all the women. He had low morals. What will Obama's great fault be?
Everyone loved Bush when he declared war! They loved him.
They all knew America was the largest most powerful nation on earth and truth justice and the American way was about to liberate the oppressed from evil. They all knew America's enemies where in the gunsights and about to get what they were begging for. How they all cheered and sang his praises.
Bush is stupid? The entire American public bought into that one, hook, line and sinker. Bush's stupid is American Stupid. The wars he started are the wars America started. He didn't lead his people anywhere they didn't want to go.
Everyone loves a war as long as they are winning.