This is all you need to try because the rest suck and if you don't like WoW then you have a long wait for something good. Such a shame because there used to be alot of good mmorpgs until they all got ruined by SOE.
Hey JK-Kanosi
Here is a prime example of what i was talking about in the other tread.
This is all you need to try because the rest suck and if you don't like WoW then you have a long wait for something good. Such a shame because there used to be alot of good mmorpgs until they all got ruined by SOE.
What are you talking about? There are several games I would rather play than wow, some of them on that list. Having more subscribers doesn't make wow a better game. That's like saying McDonald's has better food than any other restaurant because more people eat there.
You eat at Mc donalds for Convenience and you game for fun so therefore the whole Mc donalds argument is aload of crap. Games really can't be compared to anything seeing as they have so many elements that make them great or bad and in the end it is down to opinion but like the 5 million or so playing WoW and all the amazing reviews it scored does mean it is the best mmorpg ever made. you just can't argue with that and when you look at all the other mmorpgs closely you see why like Lotro has horrible combat and player models and bad PVP. EVE online is too niche and feels like work for alot of people etc etc.
WoW just offers the best all round experience and thats what makes it the best.
My point was that quality isn't proportional to popularity, use whatever metaphor you like.
Appealing to the masses and appealing to people with taste are two different things. WoW has managed to draw many people to the MMO genre, largely because of the convenience that it offers(works on most systems, fairly simple game play, linear character progrssion). However, many gamers with lots of MMO experience under their belts prefer something a little more challenging and innovating, as reflected by the rating of other MMOs in comparison to WoW on this site.
You were right about one thing, it really all does come down to opinion, just like it is your opinion that WoW is better than anything else out there. While this opinion might be shared by the majority, that doesn't make it any more valid than any other opinion. Personally, I've never been one to follow the crowd.
This is taken from the Feb. 2009 Issue of PC Gamer. The following MMO's were listed as being the top 9 best and biggest, listed from smallest to largest MMORPG. 9. AoC 8. EQ2 7. SWG 6. CoX 5. GW 4. WAR 3. EvE 2. LoTRO 1. WoW They gave a big nod to AION for being worthy of a game to watch and DOFUS as a game that has been quietly successful for quit some time. DOFUS has 10million active players; 1.5 million of those P2P. The majority of us on this site are hardcore MMORPG gamers, meaning we've played many if not most MMORPG's and have a lot of experience with this genre. This knowledge and experience has been both a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing, because we've been apart of so many games and can now scientifically say which game is better than another, but the curse is that being able to compare games like that has left us jaded and has taken the magic away that these games still provide to the vast majority of MMORPG gamers out there. This list alone shows a different view than most of us have on the genre and should provoke us to think about how we've spent our time analyzing the genre and each game. Maybe it's time to stop reading gaming forums, and stick to the various publications out there for our information. By doing this, we'd be less informed concerning every change and feature being planned and implemented along the development process, but the games would be pure when we finally do try one that we have our eyes on. I guess the best example of this is to think back to when KoToR came out or an Elder Scrolls game, or even your favorite FPS game. More than likely, you seen the features offered in some add or publication and became hyped up about it. Finally, it released and you don't have any reservations about trying it due to drama you read on the game during the development process, so your attitude and approach to the game is one that is pure and still able to approach the game with a positive attitude. Just something to think about. Slowly but surely, I'm starting to frequent forums less to minimize the impact the drama and hate queens have on my outlook of a game.
Not one real F2P game and not one Asian game. Clueless list is clueless.
They could have added Street Gears, Atlantica, Silkroad etc.
No, they promote 6 year old junk. SWG and EQ2, lol.
This is taken from the Feb. 2009 Issue of PC Gamer. The following MMO's were listed as being the top 9 best and biggest, listed from smallest to largest MMORPG. 9. AoC 8. EQ2 7. SWG 6. CoX 5. GW 4. WAR 3. EvE 2. LoTRO 1. WoW They gave a big nod to AION for being worthy of a game to watch and DOFUS as a game that has been quietly successful for quit some time. DOFUS has 10million active players; 1.5 million of those P2P. The majority of us on this site are hardcore MMORPG gamers, meaning we've played many if not most MMORPG's and have a lot of experience with this genre. This knowledge and experience has been both a blessing and a curse. It's a blessing, because we've been apart of so many games and can now scientifically say which game is better than another, but the curse is that being able to compare games like that has left us jaded and has taken the magic away that these games still provide to the vast majority of MMORPG gamers out there. This list alone shows a different view than most of us have on the genre and should provoke us to think about how we've spent our time analyzing the genre and each game. Maybe it's time to stop reading gaming forums, and stick to the various publications out there for our information. By doing this, we'd be less informed concerning every change and feature being planned and implemented along the development process, but the games would be pure when we finally do try one that we have our eyes on. I guess the best example of this is to think back to when KoToR came out or an Elder Scrolls game, or even your favorite FPS game. More than likely, you seen the features offered in some add or publication and became hyped up about it. Finally, it released and you don't have any reservations about trying it due to drama you read on the game during the development process, so your attitude and approach to the game is one that is pure and still able to approach the game with a positive attitude. Just something to think about. Slowly but surely, I'm starting to frequent forums less to minimize the impact the drama and hate queens have on my outlook of a game.
Not one real F2P game and not one Asian game. Clueless list is clueless.
They could have added Street Gears, Atlantica, Silkroad etc.
No, they promote 6 year old junk. SWG and EQ2, lol.
Also left out Anarchy Online .... *sniff* I love my AO.
I must say I respect the Koreans and their love for MMO's. Having one country's playing population being bigger than the entire european playing population is huge.
I am still wondering why there are like 10 times as many english MMO players, than german players or french players.
What makes those countries so different?
As for the games
AoC is not that bad a game, its the best looking game, but granted not as good as WoW
War is fair, but somehow pretty boring, just like EVE imho.
We can only hope the future will launch better games
You eat at Mc donalds for Convenience and you game for fun so therefore the whole Mc donalds argument is aload of crap. Games really can't be compared to anything seeing as they have so many elements that make them great or bad and in the end it is down to opinion but like the 5 million or so playing WoW and all the amazing reviews it scored does mean it is the best mmorpg ever made. you just can't argue with that and when you look at all the other mmorpgs closely you see why like Lotro has horrible combat and player models and bad PVP. EVE online is too niche and feels like work for alot of people etc etc.
WoW just offers the best all round experience and thats what makes it the best.
Fun is a personal sensation, hence your reasoning for WoW being the best all round is as flawed as the food as McDonald's
If everyone liked the same things, there'd only be ONE MMO.
I must say I respect the Koreans and their love for MMO's. Having one country's playing population being bigger than the entire european playing population is huge. I am still wondering why there are like 10 times as many english MMO players, than german players or french players. What makes those countries so different?
As for the games AoC is not that bad a game, its the best looking game, but granted not as good as WoW
War is fair, but somehow pretty boring, just like EVE imho.
We can only hope the future will launch better games
I believe the reason there are more of us english players than germans or french etc is because we are much more influenced by americans than them. If MMO gaming was never big in america it never would of caught on here. Also it may seem as though there are a lot more english than you'd imagine because a lot of scandinavians play on english servers and speak better english than us :P
also to stay on topic only pre NGE SWG deserves to be on that list, and i am very happy for EVE to be getting some serious publicity like that because out of the hardcore its not a very well known game.
why is aoc behind swg ? and why is lotr so far up the list, i dont think the people at the magazine actually play many of the games listed. Lotr is a wow clone dumped in the tolkein universe and swg is just a big pile of poo. aoc is at least fun for a while as lotr is boring after level 20. eve is a bit niche and i would love to enjoy to play it the problem is i have the attention span but the game is fundementally flawed in being dull unless your prepared to invest about 3 years of your life before it gets fun.
because we all know wow was the first mmo to feature quests, quickbars and all the rest of it... oh, wait, it wasn't.
lotro has a lot of basic interface features in common with wow. that's about all though, the combat system is slower paced and more involved. class progression is done totally different. pvp is completely different. quests have more of an involvment in the world around you, especially the main story quests.
wow, lotro and many many other mmos have all copied elements from those that came before them. it doesn't make them clones. if that's all you see, you need to look beneath the surface.
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Aion has passed the 500k mark already in Korea alone, which is a great accomplishment considering it released when WotLK did, and a huge chunk of WoW players are Korean. And there aren't many bots, anyone would know this if they looked anywhere other than a specific person's blog who posts nothing but negative points of the game, yet has been playing it since closed beta non-stop for a year now.
Diablo 2 had 100k users online...is it a MMO? GW will never be a MMO, even if there are 1 billion people playing it at the same time. Even the developers of the game said its not a MMO.
What fact don't you get? Aion has NOT released anywhere it is still in Beta test. Geez....
Look at that a Niche spaceship pvp sandbox listed as #3 on a major gaming site/mag. Awesome for CCP. Thats going to expose Eve to a even larger audience. goodtimes.
CCP although niche in PvP, has been able to accomplish a VERY unique advancement system that catters to everyone and not just those that have unlimited play time.
CCP has also done a great job with continued improvements in their server/client architecture and continue to push technology forward, any company that embrasses technology the way they do are alright by me!
Eve-Online is one of the few games i continue to play without second thought.
What fact don't you get? Aion has NOT released anywhere it is still in Beta test. Geez....
Are you retarded? Aion released in November-December, its currently in Chinese beta, but Korean is already retail with 500k+ people playing it.
and yeah Ephimero, I believe you...the problems with counting subs is it hasnt even gone through a business cycle yet, most of the stats are pulled from Internet Cafes and stuff...I've seen things like there was 550 000 different people playing it at internet cafe's alone in January, if you account for 95% of the 250 000 beta testers that upgraded their accounts to retail the week beta ended...that would account for 750 000 people...So I have no trouble believing its over the 1 million mark.
But, Aion, Lineage and Lineage 2 are more popular than all but WoW on this list, and get left out, NCsoft seems to always get the shaft and never any hype/publicity.
because we've been apart of so many games and can now scientifically say which game is better than another,
Fail. There is no science behind liking something, you can cloud that fact behind statistics (lemming theory), neuroscience (dopamine reaction), psychology (human-computer interactions of what things feel "right") or some mumbo-jumbo, but it isn't true. You cannot measure fun, you can't bottle it up, chain it down or poke it with a stick.
Imagine that someone tried scientific experiements and measured through a survey and got the following ratings (as based on the current game list).
Lineage 2 -------------7.98
Requiem --------------7.97
EverQuest -------------7.96
Anarchy Online------- 7.96
Asheron's Call---------7.96
World of Warcraft----- 7.95
Why is one game 0.01 better than another? Answer, it doesn't matter!
OP, I think you need to stop being a sheep and do what YOU enjoy (it doesn't even have to do with games).
The main problem I see is that more people are seeing MMO's for what they really are. [read my signature for some pointers.]
My point was that quality isn't proportional to popularity, use whatever metaphor you like. Appealing to the masses and appealing to people with taste are two different things. WoW has managed to draw many people to the MMO genre, largely because of the convenience that it offers(works on most systems, fairly simple game play, linear character progrssion). However, many gamers with lots of MMO experience under their belts prefer something a little more challenging and innovating, as reflected by the rating of other MMOs in comparison to WoW on this site. You were right about one thing, it really all does come down to opinion, just like it is your opinion that WoW is better than anything else out there. While this opinion might be shared by the majority, that doesn't make it any more valid than any other opinion. Personally, I've never been one to follow the crowd.
THIS site? You do understand many people on THIS site don't represent even a smidgen of NORMAL gamers. Besdies, loads of gamers with lots of experience under their belts STILL prefer to play WOW. WOW is challenging if you choose to take on those challenges. Whats great is you don't have to. Other MMOs force that difficulty, usssually due to bad design or tremendous time sinks. The ratings here? They mean nothing. The only ratings that matter are the $ ratings and the influence ratings. What game attracts the most $ and which game influences the genre the most? Thats right. WOW.
When the opinions are so overwhelming, they can't be ignored. You might as well say the sky isn't blue because I don't think it is. Does it matter if you think its purple with polka dots? Nope. Its blue. WOW is the most critically acclaimed and highest played MMO. Thats a fact, not opinion. Is it the best? Its the ONLY MMO that qualifies. Does it matter? Well, apparently it does, since almost every MMO has had to adapt to WOW, not the other way around. That sort of influence is undeniable.
9. AoC 8. EQ2 7. SWG 6. CoX 5. GW 4. WAR 3. EvE 2. LoTRO 1. WoW
if i could rearrange these games (not adding ones that havent been listed) i would put them in the following order:
1. WoW
2. Eve
3. LOTRO
4. AOC
5. EQ2
6. COX
7. WAR
8. GW
9. SWG
i know the pc gamer list is supposedly based on population, this is just my list of what people should try.
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why is aoc behind swg ? and why is lotr so far up the list, i dont think the people at the magazine actually play many of the games listed. Lotr is a wow clone dumped in the tolkein universe and swg is just a big pile of poo. aoc is at least fun for a while as lotr is boring after level 20. eve is a bit niche and i would love to enjoy to play it the problem is i have the attention span but the game is fundementally flawed in being dull unless your prepared to invest about 3 years of your life before it gets fun.
Actually I wne t back to check LOTRO out and was very impressed LOTRO is actually a pretty strong game now . It was kinda bad at realease but is probably the one of the best looking MMOs out for sure.
Aion has passed the 500k mark already in Korea alone, which is a great accomplishment considering it released when WotLK did, and a huge chunk of WoW players are Korean. And there aren't many bots, anyone would know this if they looked anywhere other than a specific person's blog who posts nothing but negative points of the game, yet has been playing it since closed beta non-stop for a year now.
Diablo 2 had 100k users online...is it a MMO? GW will never be a MMO, even if there are 1 billion people playing it at the same time. Even the developers of the game said its not a MMO.
What fact don't you get? Aion has NOT released anywhere it is still in Beta test. Geez....
what are you trying to do here, ozmodan? Are you just attempting to troll and increase your post count or what?
Don't know how any MMORPGer could make a list of games to play without Lineage 2, unless they hate PvP. Even if you don't like it, surely its accomplishments and surviving fan base say something. I mean its 5 years old (Lineage 1 is 11 years old) and both L1 and L2 each have more subs than any MMO on that list except WoW....Not to mention better graphics than all but WAR/AoC.
Take a second to look at some subscription graphs (there are many different ones out there) but let's start with. www.mmogchart.com/charts/
Take a look at the subsections www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html (note that WoW is not on this chart since it's has 10 times the numbers of subscribers and the graph would become unreadable due to scaling).
The graph I linked is based on subscriptions (wich could be exagerrated by the producers, although risky since it should be accurate by the book endings for each company, faking this and you'd have veery angry investors and/or stockholders).
Originally posted by Josher Originally posted by kingfelix My point was that quality isn't proportional to popularity, use whatever metaphor you like. Appealing to the masses and appealing to people with taste are two different things. WoW has managed to draw many people to the MMO genre, largely because of the convenience that it offers(works on most systems, fairly simple game play, linear character progrssion). However, many gamers with lots of MMO experience under their belts prefer something a little more challenging and innovating, as reflected by the rating of other MMOs in comparison to WoW on this site. You were right about one thing, it really all does come down to opinion, just like it is your opinion that WoW is better than anything else out there. While this opinion might be shared by the majority, that doesn't make it any more valid than any other opinion. Personally, I've never been one to follow the crowd.
THIS site? You do understand many people on THIS site don't represent even a smidgen of NORMAL gamers. Besdies, loads of gamers with lots of experience under their belts STILL prefer to play WOW. WOW is challenging if you choose to take on those challenges. Whats great is you don't have to. Other MMOs force that difficulty, usssually due to bad design or tremendous time sinks. The ratings here? They mean nothing. The only ratings that matter are the $ ratings and the influence ratings. What game attracts the most $ and which game influences the genre the most? Thats right. WOW. When the opinions are so overwhelming, they can't be ignored. You might as well say the sky isn't blue because I don't think it is. Does it matter if you think its purple with polka dots? Nope. Its blue. WOW is the most critically acclaimed and highest played MMO. Thats a fact, not opinion. Is it the best? Its the ONLY MMO that qualifies. Does it matter? Well, apparently it does, since almost every MMO has had to adapt to WOW, not the other way around. That sort of influence is undeniable.
change the record will you. I'm sure you go to bed thinking about WoW, and come here OUTRAGED that other people here like mmos other than WoW. How dare they! WoW is like Starcraft, Starcraft had phenomental success- BUT, there are other RTS' out there and other mmos who don't have to be influenced by WoW or Starcraft.
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Originally posted by Calind0r GW will never be a MMO, even if there are 1 billion people playing it at the same time. Even the developers of the game said its not a MMO.
Touche` I could have swore I read that Anet said it was a mmog but this is all I've found... GW is a Cooperative/Competitive Online Role Playing Game (CORPG)
I am still wondering why there are like 10 times as many english MMO players, than german players or french players. What makes those countries so different?
Well, I live in France (but have Belgian nationality also) and it's not so much them not playing games. It's certain companies who support European communities and others who don't care.
Some F2P communities like Gpotato, Dofus and even Blizzard go out of their way to support French / German and other European communities. While companies like NCSoft and SoE for example are completely ignorant to Europeans support and just think an English client and one language will just suffice without any local support.
Well, if you have a choice as a European to go to a company who supports both your local community and your language, you will choose them over a P2P company who doesn't care.
Especially in France and Germany, people are very sensitive to these things, which is their right.
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This is all you need to try because the rest suck and if you don't like WoW then you have a long wait for something good. Such a shame because there used to be alot of good mmorpgs until they all got ruined by SOE.
Hey JK-Kanosi
Here is a prime example of what i was talking about in the other tread.
This is all you need to try because the rest suck and if you don't like WoW then you have a long wait for something good. Such a shame because there used to be alot of good mmorpgs until they all got ruined by SOE.
What are you talking about? There are several games I would rather play than wow, some of them on that list. Having more subscribers doesn't make wow a better game. That's like saying McDonald's has better food than any other restaurant because more people eat there.
You eat at Mc donalds for Convenience and you game for fun so therefore the whole Mc donalds argument is aload of crap. Games really can't be compared to anything seeing as they have so many elements that make them great or bad and in the end it is down to opinion but like the 5 million or so playing WoW and all the amazing reviews it scored does mean it is the best mmorpg ever made. you just can't argue with that and when you look at all the other mmorpgs closely you see why like Lotro has horrible combat and player models and bad PVP. EVE online is too niche and feels like work for alot of people etc etc.
WoW just offers the best all round experience and thats what makes it the best.
My point was that quality isn't proportional to popularity, use whatever metaphor you like.
Appealing to the masses and appealing to people with taste are two different things. WoW has managed to draw many people to the MMO genre, largely because of the convenience that it offers(works on most systems, fairly simple game play, linear character progrssion). However, many gamers with lots of MMO experience under their belts prefer something a little more challenging and innovating, as reflected by the rating of other MMOs in comparison to WoW on this site.
You were right about one thing, it really all does come down to opinion, just like it is your opinion that WoW is better than anything else out there. While this opinion might be shared by the majority, that doesn't make it any more valid than any other opinion. Personally, I've never been one to follow the crowd.
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Not one real F2P game and not one Asian game. Clueless list is clueless.
They could have added Street Gears, Atlantica, Silkroad etc.
No, they promote 6 year old junk. SWG and EQ2, lol.
Not one real F2P game and not one Asian game. Clueless list is clueless.
They could have added Street Gears, Atlantica, Silkroad etc.
No, they promote 6 year old junk. SWG and EQ2, lol.
Also left out Anarchy Online .... *sniff* I love my AO.
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I must say I respect the Koreans and their love for MMO's. Having one country's playing population being bigger than the entire european playing population is huge.
I am still wondering why there are like 10 times as many english MMO players, than german players or french players.
What makes those countries so different?
As for the games
AoC is not that bad a game, its the best looking game, but granted not as good as WoW
War is fair, but somehow pretty boring, just like EVE imho.
We can only hope the future will launch better games
Fun is a personal sensation, hence your reasoning for WoW being the best all round is as flawed as the food as McDonald's
If everyone liked the same things, there'd only be ONE MMO.
I believe the reason there are more of us english players than germans or french etc is because we are much more influenced by americans than them. If MMO gaming was never big in america it never would of caught on here. Also it may seem as though there are a lot more english than you'd imagine because a lot of scandinavians play on english servers and speak better english than us :P
also to stay on topic only pre NGE SWG deserves to be on that list, and i am very happy for EVE to be getting some serious publicity like that because out of the hardcore its not a very well known game.
because we all know wow was the first mmo to feature quests, quickbars and all the rest of it... oh, wait, it wasn't.
lotro has a lot of basic interface features in common with wow. that's about all though, the combat system is slower paced and more involved. class progression is done totally different. pvp is completely different. quests have more of an involvment in the world around you, especially the main story quests.
wow, lotro and many many other mmos have all copied elements from those that came before them. it doesn't make them clones. if that's all you see, you need to look beneath the surface.
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Currently playing: Rift
former player of: DAoC, Everquest 2, Guild Wars, SWG (pre-NGE), WoW, Warhammer online, LotR:O
What fact don't you get? Aion has NOT released anywhere it is still in Beta test. Geez....
CCP although niche in PvP, has been able to accomplish a VERY unique advancement system that catters to everyone and not just those that have unlimited play time.
CCP has also done a great job with continued improvements in their server/client architecture and continue to push technology forward, any company that embrasses technology the way they do are alright by me!
Eve-Online is one of the few games i continue to play without second thought.
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What fact don't you get? Aion has NOT released anywhere it is still in Beta test. Geez....
Are you retarded? Aion released in November-December, its currently in Chinese beta, but Korean is already retail with 500k+ people playing it.
and yeah Ephimero, I believe you...the problems with counting subs is it hasnt even gone through a business cycle yet, most of the stats are pulled from Internet Cafes and stuff...I've seen things like there was 550 000 different people playing it at internet cafe's alone in January, if you account for 95% of the 250 000 beta testers that upgraded their accounts to retail the week beta ended...that would account for 750 000 people...So I have no trouble believing its over the 1 million mark.
But, Aion, Lineage and Lineage 2 are more popular than all but WoW on this list, and get left out, NCsoft seems to always get the shaft and never any hype/publicity.
Fail. There is no science behind liking something, you can cloud that fact behind statistics (lemming theory), neuroscience (dopamine reaction), psychology (human-computer interactions of what things feel "right") or some mumbo-jumbo, but it isn't true. You cannot measure fun, you can't bottle it up, chain it down or poke it with a stick.
Imagine that someone tried scientific experiements and measured through a survey and got the following ratings (as based on the current game list).
Lineage 2 -------------7.98
Requiem --------------7.97
EverQuest -------------7.96
Anarchy Online------- 7.96
Asheron's Call---------7.96
World of Warcraft----- 7.95
Why is one game 0.01 better than another? Answer, it doesn't matter!
OP, I think you need to stop being a sheep and do what YOU enjoy (it doesn't even have to do with games).
The main problem I see is that more people are seeing MMO's for what they really are. [read my signature for some pointers.]
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/MMORPG
THIS site? You do understand many people on THIS site don't represent even a smidgen of NORMAL gamers. Besdies, loads of gamers with lots of experience under their belts STILL prefer to play WOW. WOW is challenging if you choose to take on those challenges. Whats great is you don't have to. Other MMOs force that difficulty, usssually due to bad design or tremendous time sinks. The ratings here? They mean nothing. The only ratings that matter are the $ ratings and the influence ratings. What game attracts the most $ and which game influences the genre the most? Thats right. WOW.
When the opinions are so overwhelming, they can't be ignored. You might as well say the sky isn't blue because I don't think it is. Does it matter if you think its purple with polka dots? Nope. Its blue. WOW is the most critically acclaimed and highest played MMO. Thats a fact, not opinion. Is it the best? Its the ONLY MMO that qualifies. Does it matter? Well, apparently it does, since almost every MMO has had to adapt to WOW, not the other way around. That sort of influence is undeniable.
if i could rearrange these games (not adding ones that havent been listed) i would put them in the following order:
1. WoW
2. Eve
3. LOTRO
4. AOC
5. EQ2
6. COX
7. WAR
8. GW
9. SWG
i know the pc gamer list is supposedly based on population, this is just my list of what people should try.
Playing: EVE Online
Favorite MMOs: WoW, SWG Pre-cu, Lineage 2, UO, EQ, EVE online
Looking forward to: Archeage, Kingdom Under Fire 2
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Actually I wne t back to check LOTRO out and was very impressed LOTRO is actually a pretty strong game now . It was kinda bad at realease but is probably the one of the best looking MMOs out for sure.
if i could rearrange these games (not adding ones that havent been listed) i would put them in the following order:
1. WoW
2. Eve
3. LOTRO
4. AOC
5. EQ2
6. COX
7. WAR
8. GW
9. SWG
i know the pc gamer list is supposedly based on population, this is just my list of what people should try.
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What fact don't you get? Aion has NOT released anywhere it is still in Beta test. Geez....
what are you trying to do here, ozmodan? Are you just attempting to troll and increase your post count or what?
Aion was released in Korea end of November 2008.
Don't know how any MMORPGer could make a list of games to play without Lineage 2, unless they hate PvP. Even if you don't like it, surely its accomplishments and surviving fan base say something. I mean its 5 years old (Lineage 1 is 11 years old) and both L1 and L2 each have more subs than any MMO on that list except WoW....Not to mention better graphics than all but WAR/AoC.
This is the first time I've heard of Dofus. That many subscribers? Impressive
Playing - FFXIV, ESO
Played - FFXI, WoW, Lineage 2, Guild Wars, Aion, SWToR, LotRO, GW2, TERA, Rift, ArcheAge, TSW
Just some non biased info:
Take a second to look at some subscription graphs (there are many different ones out there) but let's start with. www.mmogchart.com/charts/
Take a look at the subsections www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html (note that WoW is not on this chart since it's has 10 times the numbers of subscribers and the graph would become unreadable due to scaling).
The graph I linked is based on subscriptions (wich could be exagerrated by the producers, although risky since it should be accurate by the book endings for each company, faking this and you'd have veery angry investors and/or stockholders).
I disagree with that list immensely.
THIS site? You do understand many people on THIS site don't represent even a smidgen of NORMAL gamers. Besdies, loads of gamers with lots of experience under their belts STILL prefer to play WOW. WOW is challenging if you choose to take on those challenges. Whats great is you don't have to. Other MMOs force that difficulty, usssually due to bad design or tremendous time sinks. The ratings here? They mean nothing. The only ratings that matter are the $ ratings and the influence ratings. What game attracts the most $ and which game influences the genre the most? Thats right. WOW.
When the opinions are so overwhelming, they can't be ignored. You might as well say the sky isn't blue because I don't think it is. Does it matter if you think its purple with polka dots? Nope. Its blue. WOW is the most critically acclaimed and highest played MMO. Thats a fact, not opinion. Is it the best? Its the ONLY MMO that qualifies. Does it matter? Well, apparently it does, since almost every MMO has had to adapt to WOW, not the other way around. That sort of influence is undeniable.
change the record will you. I'm sure you go to bed thinking about WoW, and come here OUTRAGED that other people here like mmos other than WoW. How dare they! WoW is like Starcraft, Starcraft had phenomental success- BUT, there are other RTS' out there and other mmos who don't have to be influenced by WoW or Starcraft.
Game play video of a game you gotta try someday: tv.gamestar.hu/video/aion-taiora-spiritmaster-persepha-productions
Velika: City of Wheels: Among the mortal races, the humans were the only one that never built cities or great empires; a curse laid upon them by their creator, Gidd, forced them to wander as nomads for twenty centuries...
Touche` I could have swore I read that Anet said it was a mmog but this is all I've found... GW is a Cooperative/Competitive Online Role Playing Game (CORPG)
-Almerel
Hello my old friend.
Well, I live in France (but have Belgian nationality also) and it's not so much them not playing games. It's certain companies who support European communities and others who don't care.
Some F2P communities like Gpotato, Dofus and even Blizzard go out of their way to support French / German and other European communities. While companies like NCSoft and SoE for example are completely ignorant to Europeans support and just think an English client and one language will just suffice without any local support.
Well, if you have a choice as a European to go to a company who supports both your local community and your language, you will choose them over a P2P company who doesn't care.
Especially in France and Germany, people are very sensitive to these things, which is their right.