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SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225

 This was one, of several trolls posts flooding the Darkfall forums. Sadly, this is the kind of stuff we have to put up with ALL THE TIME. People wonder why the fanboys are rabid, its because, for no discernable reason, these people gravitate towards this game, and awlays have. 

 

"I had a friend in college who made his own 3d gaming engine( and I mean from the ground up) in Louisiana and invited like 35 people to play in a small game (I made the levels and graphics) he made and had no problems on his shit computer that he bought from friggin Wal Mart like 8 years ago. He made this in like 2 months in his spare time from school. AV can't do the same thing with 30 people working FULL TIME in 7 YEARS with high end professional servers. LMAO. For all of you whiners and fanboys, guess what... your game has failed, more miserably than any game has failed in mmo HISTORY. Ultima Online was at least fun to play at the beginning and allowed all who wanted to join in. Let me taste thost tears of sorrow, c mon, let them flow. Cmon and cry devs and close this thread like the cowards you are and let the cockless freaks of fanboys do their worst!"

 

The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 

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  • grimbojgrimboj Member Posts: 2,102

    These game has been so over-hyped that I'm not surprised reactions haven't been worse. I can read every forum of this website except this one and not see a single mention of darkfall - its been a very subdued release to a very niche audience which was once a lot larger.

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  • LidaneLidane Member CommonPosts: 2,300
    Originally posted by SignusM


    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 

    And of course, whining about posts on one fourm by posting about it in another forum is totally a way to raise the level of discourse on the internet.

    Honestly, I thought Darkfall was made for the hardest of the hardcore crowd. You know, the kind of players who kill you repeatedly, take all your stuff, and then post photos of themselves teabagging your corpse on the internet. I don't understand all the whines and cries about people posting opinions that you don't like on a message board. Shouldn't a hardcore PvP crowd be able to emotionally handle negative posts?

    Unless, of course, that guy's post reinforced some internal fears you have that DF won't live up to the hype you've built up for it in your mind? That's the only reason I can see why anyone would whine about someone else's opinion online.

  • SignusMSignusM Member Posts: 2,225
    Originally posted by grimboj


    These game has been so over-hyped that I'm not surprised reactions haven't been worse. I can read every forum of this website except this one and not see a single mention of darkfall - its been a very subdued release to a very niche audience which was once a lot larger.

    The game was always intended to be niche, and in the past 3 months, more people have been joining the forums/interested in the game than any other time of development. So no, it didn't shrink, and no, it met just about all the expectations, I can only thing of one or two features that didn't make it to launch, and they weren't major.

  • SpoonpottSpoonpott Member Posts: 180
    Originally posted by SignusM

    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 

     

    This pretty much...

    The rules of Debate are really simple; once you have to stoop to insults instead of facts, logic, or reason to try and win your argument, you've lost.

  • grimbojgrimboj Member Posts: 2,102
    Originally posted by SignusM

    Originally posted by grimboj


    These game has been so over-hyped that I'm not surprised reactions haven't been worse. I can read every forum of this website except this one and not see a single mention of darkfall - its been a very subdued release to a very niche audience which was once a lot larger.

    The game was always intended to be niche, and in the past 3 months, more people have been joining the forums/interested in the game than any other time of development. So no, it didn't shrink, and no, it met just about all the expectations, I can only thing of one or two features that didn't make it to launch, and they weren't major.

     

    really? You use to see people mourning AoC & WAR spamming "Well atleast we still have darkfall"

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  • MokweeMokwee Member Posts: 286

    The real sad part is the OP is most likely telling the truth.

  • Syyth007Syyth007 Member Posts: 250

    It's almost a philisophical question, what came first? The troll or the hardcore fanboy?  The reason DF keeps getting consistently trolled hardcore, is simply the reaction the trolls have been getting from the "fanboys".. You have to understand "trolls" do not care about the game.. Many probably don't even play mmorpgs, but once they find an "easy" target, it becomes a feeding frenzy.  They LOVE whipping people into a defensive fury..  Many "trolling" related sites have "how to troll darkfall" pieces..  Even encyclopedia dramatica has a "how to troll darkfall" on it's darkfall page.  You can't argue logic with a troll, you can't even have a conversation with one. The only way to beat a troll, is to ignore that they're even there.  These threads (and the numerious ones posted EVERYDAY) just encourage them.  They're not going to say, "Hey, that guy has a real logical arguement against my statement, I'm going to relent." No.. They're going to say "LOL NUBS, DF SUXX!! *instert here* WAS/IS SO MUCH BETTER THEN DARKFAIL", only with worse spelling and grammer.

  • blutigfaustblutigfaust Member UncommonPosts: 129

    ooooooo....I'm feelin all warm and fuzzy now 

    Current games playing: MechWarrior Online
    Games being watched:  Project Genom
    Favorite played games: SWG, RomaVictor, and Xsyon

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by SignusM


     This was one, of several trolls posts flooding the Darkfall forums. Sadly, this is the kind of stuff we have to put up with ALL THE TIME. People wonder why the fanboys are rabid, its because, for no discernable reason, these people gravitate towards this game, and awlays have. 
     
    "I had a friend in college who made his own 3d gaming engine( and I mean from the ground up) in Louisiana and invited like 35 people to play in a small game (I made the levels and graphics) he made and had no problems on his shit computer that he bought from friggin Wal Mart like 8 years ago. He made this in like 2 months in his spare time from school. AV can't do the same thing with 30 people working FULL TIME in 7 YEARS with high end professional servers. LMAO. For all of you whiners and fanboys, guess what... your game has failed, more miserably than any game has failed in mmo HISTORY. Ultima Online was at least fun to play at the beginning and allowed all who wanted to join in. Let me taste thost tears of sorrow, c mon, let them flow. Cmon and cry devs and close this thread like the cowards you are and let the cockless freaks of fanboys do their worst!"
     
    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 

    I have to be honest here but speaking of stupidity, what ever made you think that it was a good idea to post a troll post from Forumfall on MMORPG.com?

    Isn't that like trolling also? I mean you're re-posting an obvious troll post.

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  • Carl132pCarl132p Member UncommonPosts: 538

    its not LIKE trolling  it IS trolling  OP is a dumb ass troll

  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827
    Originally posted by SignusM


     This was one, of several trolls posts flooding the Darkfall forums. Sadly, this is the kind of stuff we have to put up with ALL THE TIME. People wonder why the fanboys are rabid, its because, for no discernable reason, these people gravitate towards this game, and awlays have. 
     
    "I had a friend in college who made his own 3d gaming engine( and I mean from the ground up) in Louisiana and invited like 35 people to play in a small game (I made the levels and graphics) he made and had no problems on his shit computer that he bought from friggin Wal Mart like 8 years ago. He made this in like 2 months in his spare time from school. AV can't do the same thing with 30 people working FULL TIME in 7 YEARS with high end professional servers. LMAO. For all of you whiners and fanboys, guess what... your game has failed, more miserably than any game has failed in mmo HISTORY. Ultima Online was at least fun to play at the beginning and allowed all who wanted to join in. Let me taste thost tears of sorrow, c mon, let them flow. Cmon and cry devs and close this thread like the cowards you are and let the cockless freaks of fanboys do their worst!"
     
    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 



     

    You take this serieus lol you let them get under your skin :P

    You are new to internetz?

    I dont even reply to such stupidity these are just silly kids try to troll on the netz thats all.

    Games played:AC1-Darktide'99-2000-AC2-Darktide/dawnsong2003-2005,Lineage2-2005-2006 and now Darkfall-2009.....
    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413
    Originally posted by SignusM


     This was one, of several trolls posts flooding the Darkfall forums. Sadly, this is the kind of stuff we have to put up with ALL THE TIME. People wonder why the fanboys are rabid, its because, for no discernable reason, these people gravitate towards this game, and awlays have. 
     Actually SignusM, on a scale of dumbass, this only rates about a 3/10.

    Please don't confuse every post you don't like with stupidity.

    To demonstrate let's look more closely...
    "I had a friend in college who made his own 3d gaming engine( and I mean from the ground up) in Louisiana and invited like 35 people to play in a small game (I made the levels and graphics) he made and had no problems on his shit computer that he bought from friggin Wal Mart like 8 years ago.


    Now for credibility - he should have posted screen shots.  But, that said, it is not totally outlandish.  The bit about building a 3D gaming engine from the ground up is - he probably means he used an existing engine or design 'kit' you can get for free these days (I have a demo Playstation game here designed by a 12 year old which compares to the original Wolfenstein) but designing the levels and graphics is credible. It's Modding and not uncommon now.  There is also the little fact that a LAN game is very different from an MMO... but okay.


    He made this in like 2 months in his spare time from school. AV can't do the same thing with 30 people working FULL TIME in 7 YEARS with high end professional servers. LMAO.


    His point here is that in the last 7 years the tools available to designers have improved dramatically.  Stuff that used to be strictly for professionals is now within the domain of 'regular' users.  Modding has gone from being something only computer geeks could do to something players look for when they buy a game.  Modding teams set out to mod games that are still in development and some Developers now even use community input as part of their game.  Essentually - a game that started development 7 years ago is well behind the 8-ball now.


    For all of you whiners and fanboys, guess what... your game has failed, more miserably than any game has failed in mmo HISTORY. Ultima Online was at least fun to play at the beginning and allowed all who wanted to join in. Let me taste thost tears of sorrow, c mon, let them flow. Cmon and cry devs and close this thread like the cowards you are and let the cockless freaks of fanboys do their worst!"


    Okay, that last paragraph is a unsupported rant.
    But I also noticed that the post was quite well punctuated and the spelling was good.  The sentences had structure and it was ledgible.  The grammar was good.

    The poster is not stupid, a little young perhaps and prone to slight exaggeration but not a rabid "UR g4me suxxor!!1111!!1!11!1!" type mouth breather rabid troll.
    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 
    Then you should probably avoid the internet... and definately never visit YouTube.

     

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • xaldraxiusxaldraxius Member Posts: 1,249


    Originally posted by Syyth007
    It's almost a philisophical question, what came first? The troll or the hardcore fanboy?  The reason DF keeps getting consistently trolled hardcore, is simply the reaction the trolls have been getting from the "fanboys".. You have to understand "trolls" do not care about the game.. Many probably don't even play mmorpgs, but once they find an "easy" target, it becomes a feeding frenzy.  They LOVE whipping people into a defensive fury..  Many "trolling" related sites have "how to troll darkfall" pieces..  Even encyclopedia dramatica has a "how to troll darkfall" on it's darkfall page.  You can't argue logic with a troll, you can't even have a conversation with one. The only way to beat a troll, is to ignore that they're even there.  These threads (and the numerious ones posted EVERYDAY) just encourage them.  They're not going to say, "Hey, that guy has a real logical arguement against my statement, I'm going to relent." No.. They're going to say "LOL NUBS, DF SUXX!! *instert here* WAS/IS SO MUCH BETTER THEN DARKFAIL", only with worse spelling and grammer.


    And you don't see how the hardcore fans of the game do the same thing? Trolls do this and trolls do that... Troll Troll Troll. You say that trolls have bad spelling and 'GRAMMAR', yet some of the worst writing I've seen has come from rabid fans. Both sides are just as bad. Of course you can't say anything about people's poor grammar because all of a sudden English isn't their first language.

    Quit whining people. Discuss things rationally, argue them ignorantly, ignore people who say things you don't agree with if you must, but take care of these things at the point of origin, don't drag them out and start new threads about them. If there is a thread talking about Darkfall's combat and somebody says that 'Darkfail SUXX cuz it's all running in circles and randomly clicking the mouse!' then debate that issue there don't start a new thread going 'You won't believe what this Troll said!'. For the love of all that's holy start realizing that flame wars are a two way street and if you post a thread like this one you are just as bad as any troll.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by SignusM


     This was one, of several trolls posts flooding the Darkfall forums. Sadly, this is the kind of stuff we have to put up with ALL THE TIME. People wonder why the fanboys are rabid, its because, for no discernable reason, these people gravitate towards this game, and awlays have. 
     
    "I had a friend in college who made his own 3d gaming engine( and I mean from the ground up) in Louisiana and invited like 35 people to play in a small game (I made the levels and graphics) he made and had no problems on his shit computer that he bought from friggin Wal Mart like 8 years ago. He made this in like 2 months in his spare time from school. AV can't do the same thing with 30 people working FULL TIME in 7 YEARS with high end professional servers. LMAO. For all of you whiners and fanboys, guess what... your game has failed, more miserably than any game has failed in mmo HISTORY. Ultima Online was at least fun to play at the beginning and allowed all who wanted to join in. Let me taste thost tears of sorrow, c mon, let them flow. Cmon and cry devs and close this thread like the cowards you are and let the cockless freaks of fanboys do their worst!"
     
    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 

     

    I present to you the Brannoc log.

     

    ----------
    "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me

    "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

    "Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.

    How are you?" -Me

  • miagisanmiagisan Member Posts: 5,156
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by SignusM


     This was one, of several trolls posts flooding the Darkfall forums. Sadly, this is the kind of stuff we have to put up with ALL THE TIME. People wonder why the fanboys are rabid, its because, for no discernable reason, these people gravitate towards this game, and awlays have. 
     
    "I had a friend in college who made his own 3d gaming engine( and I mean from the ground up) in Louisiana and invited like 35 people to play in a small game (I made the levels and graphics) he made and had no problems on his shit computer that he bought from friggin Wal Mart like 8 years ago. He made this in like 2 months in his spare time from school. AV can't do the same thing with 30 people working FULL TIME in 7 YEARS with high end professional servers. LMAO. For all of you whiners and fanboys, guess what... your game has failed, more miserably than any game has failed in mmo HISTORY. Ultima Online was at least fun to play at the beginning and allowed all who wanted to join in. Let me taste thost tears of sorrow, c mon, let them flow. Cmon and cry devs and close this thread like the cowards you are and let the cockless freaks of fanboys do their worst!"
     
    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 

     

    I present to you the Brannoc log.

     

     

    this has to be fake..no way a real dev would ever talk to the community like that

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  • GyrusGyrus Member UncommonPosts: 2,413
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by SignusM

    ....
     
    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 

     

    I present to you the Brannoc log.

     

     

    Mrbloodworth wins the thread.

    Nothing says irony like spelling ideot wrong.

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by SignusM


     This was one, of several trolls posts flooding the Darkfall forums. Sadly, this is the kind of stuff we have to put up with ALL THE TIME. People wonder why the fanboys are rabid, its because, for no discernable reason, these people gravitate towards this game, and awlays have. 
     
    "I had a friend in college who made his own 3d gaming engine( and I mean from the ground up) in Louisiana and invited like 35 people to play in a small game (I made the levels and graphics) he made and had no problems on his shit computer that he bought from friggin Wal Mart like 8 years ago. He made this in like 2 months in his spare time from school. AV can't do the same thing with 30 people working FULL TIME in 7 YEARS with high end professional servers. LMAO. For all of you whiners and fanboys, guess what... your game has failed, more miserably than any game has failed in mmo HISTORY. Ultima Online was at least fun to play at the beginning and allowed all who wanted to join in. Let me taste thost tears of sorrow, c mon, let them flow. Cmon and cry devs and close this thread like the cowards you are and let the cockless freaks of fanboys do their worst!"
     
    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 

     

    I present to you the Brannoc log.

     

    That definitely pushed me over the edge. I was contemplating getting the game a few months down the line, if it was still around and provided they fixed it, but with douche bags like that running it, I would never.

    Thank you, Mrbloodworth! You truly are a pillar to this community.

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  • DeadDingoDeadDingo Member Posts: 193
    Originally posted by SignusM  
     This was one, of several trolls posts flooding the Darkfall forums. Sadly, this is the kind of stuff we have to put up with ALL THE TIME. People wonder why the fanboys are rabid, its because, for no discernable reason, these people gravitate towards this game, and awlays have. 
     
    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 

     

    Are you trying to say that DF fanbois have no culpability in the reaction of trolls?

    Your level of stupidity does make me lose faith in humanity.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615
    Originally posted by miagisan

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth

    Originally posted by SignusM


     This was one, of several trolls posts flooding the Darkfall forums. Sadly, this is the kind of stuff we have to put up with ALL THE TIME. People wonder why the fanboys are rabid, its because, for no discernable reason, these people gravitate towards this game, and awlays have. 
     
    "I had a friend in college who made his own 3d gaming engine( and I mean from the ground up) in Louisiana and invited like 35 people to play in a small game (I made the levels and graphics) he made and had no problems on his shit computer that he bought from friggin Wal Mart like 8 years ago. He made this in like 2 months in his spare time from school. AV can't do the same thing with 30 people working FULL TIME in 7 YEARS with high end professional servers. LMAO. For all of you whiners and fanboys, guess what... your game has failed, more miserably than any game has failed in mmo HISTORY. Ultima Online was at least fun to play at the beginning and allowed all who wanted to join in. Let me taste thost tears of sorrow, c mon, let them flow. Cmon and cry devs and close this thread like the cowards you are and let the cockless freaks of fanboys do their worst!"
     
    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 

     

    I present to you the Brannoc log.

     

     

    this has to be fake..no way a real dev would ever talk to the community like that

    Not fake. Taken from over a  year of IRC.

     

    Here is a great one from the past.

     

    01:53 <@Brannoc>; I think limited release sales when you're releasing your first ever game is a fairly smart thing to do tbh

    01:53 <@Brannoc>; who wants the servers to be down all day on launch day?

     

    Indeed. Indeed.

    ----------
    "Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me

    "No, your wrong.." - Random user #123

    "Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.

    How are you?" -Me

  • egotripegotrip Member Posts: 875
    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth



     

    I present to you the Brannoc log.

     

    Ahhhh that's a keeper!!

    Copy -pasted and straight in my Darkfall museum file for future generations to study.......

    EDIT:300 posts !! Tonight i dine in GyroWorld!!!

    Iiii-iiiiiit's.... me!!! *Hooray*

  • Bruticus_XIBruticus_XI Member Posts: 827

    Oh, and this Brannoc guy is one of the devs?

    Well, "I'm not paying attention". That explains it.

  • fellestrafellestra Member Posts: 16
    Originally posted by Bruticus_XI


    Oh, and this Brannoc guy is one of the devs?
    Well, "I'm not paying attention". That explains it.



     

    Isn't Brannoc one of the original Devs from Norway where they started writing the draft for this game back in 1995?

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by SignusM


     This was one, of several trolls posts flooding the Darkfall forums. Sadly, this is the kind of stuff we have to put up with ALL THE TIME. People wonder why the fanboys are rabid, its because, for no discernable reason, these people gravitate towards this game, and awlays have. 
     
    "I had a friend in college who made his own 3d gaming engine( and I mean from the ground up) in Louisiana and invited like 35 people to play in a small game (I made the levels and graphics) he made and had no problems on his shit computer that he bought from friggin Wal Mart like 8 years ago. He made this in like 2 months in his spare time from school. AV can't do the same thing with 30 people working FULL TIME in 7 YEARS with high end professional servers. LMAO. For all of you whiners and fanboys, guess what... your game has failed, more miserably than any game has failed in mmo HISTORY. Ultima Online was at least fun to play at the beginning and allowed all who wanted to join in. Let me taste thost tears of sorrow, c mon, let them flow. Cmon and cry devs and close this thread like the cowards you are and let the cockless freaks of fanboys do their worst!"
     
    The level of stupidity displayed in that post makes me lose faith in humanity. 



     

    i would put it on the level of darkfall fans spamming every forum they could find, with how great darkfall is, from around a year ago to now.

     

    ouch.

     

    but, tell us about the great variety in character creation...   too bad, for darkfall, hardcore does not equal freedom and choices.

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

  • Syyth007Syyth007 Member Posts: 250
    Originally posted by xaldraxius


     

    Originally posted by Syyth007

    It's almost a philisophical question, what came first? The troll or the hardcore fanboy?  The reason DF keeps getting consistently trolled hardcore, is simply the reaction the trolls have been getting from the "fanboys".. You have to understand "trolls" do not care about the game.. Many probably don't even play mmorpgs, but once they find an "easy" target, it becomes a feeding frenzy.  They LOVE whipping people into a defensive fury..  Many "trolling" related sites have "how to troll darkfall" pieces..  Even encyclopedia dramatica has a "how to troll darkfall" on it's darkfall page.  You can't argue logic with a troll, you can't even have a conversation with one. The only way to beat a troll, is to ignore that they're even there.  These threads (and the numerious ones posted EVERYDAY) just encourage them.  They're not going to say, "Hey, that guy has a real logical arguement against my statement, I'm going to relent." No.. They're going to say "LOL NUBS, DF SUXX!! *instert here* WAS/IS SO MUCH BETTER THEN DARKFAIL", only with worse spelling and grammer.

     



    And you don't see how the hardcore fans of the game do the same thing? Trolls do this and trolls do that... Troll Troll Troll. You say that trolls have bad spelling and 'GRAMMAR', yet some of the worst writing I've seen has come from rabid fans. Both sides are just as bad. Of course you can't say anything about people's poor grammar because all of a sudden English isn't their first language.

    Quit whining people. Discuss things rationally, argue them ignorantly, ignore people who say things you don't agree with if you must, but take care of these things at the point of origin, don't drag them out and start new threads about them. If there is a thread talking about Darkfall's combat and somebody says that 'Darkfail SUXX cuz it's all running in circles and randomly clicking the mouse!' then debate that issue there don't start a new thread going 'You won't believe what this Troll said!'. For the love of all that's holy start realizing that flame wars are a two way street and if you post a thread like this one you are just as bad as any troll.

     



     

    I never laid the blame squarely on the trolls.. Actually, I pretty much put the whole "troll" problem on the fanboy's themselves..  And yes, there are some fanboys that are just as rediculous as the trolls themselves.  Oh boy, I also spelled grammar wrong.. ironic ain't it?  But, it still stands true..  The worst on both sides make rediculous claims with poor spelling and grammar (I sooo wanted to use an e).  The real problem is most of the more hardcore "fanboys" can't tell the difference between an actual internet troll, and a critic or burned former fan of Darkfall's ideas. 

    But what I said still stands, the more they try to "fight back" against REAL trolls, the worse their troll problem will get.  Many of the worst trolls almost always use horrible grammar and spelling, along with leet speak thrown in (but their amateurs, usually from SA or "ebaums") while the most successful trolls go almost unnoticed.  But proper trolling seems to be a lost artform as it seems every 12yr old that visited 4chan think they can troll, and/or are actually funny.  A talanted troll is, sometimes, a beautiful thing to watch..  But usually, they're so good you don't know that you've been trolled until after you smashed your monitor in a fit of nerdrage.

  • damian7damian7 Member Posts: 4,449
    Originally posted by Syyth007

    Originally posted by xaldraxius


     

    Originally posted by Syyth007

    It's almost a philisophical question, what came first? The troll or the hardcore fanboy?  The reason DF keeps getting consistently trolled hardcore, is simply the reaction the trolls have been getting from the "fanboys".. You have to understand "trolls" do not care about the game.. Many probably don't even play mmorpgs, but once they find an "easy" target, it becomes a feeding frenzy.  They LOVE whipping people into a defensive fury..  Many "trolling" related sites have "how to troll darkfall" pieces..  Even encyclopedia dramatica has a "how to troll darkfall" on it's darkfall page.  You can't argue logic with a troll, you can't even have a conversation with one. The only way to beat a troll, is to ignore that they're even there.  These threads (and the numerious ones posted EVERYDAY) just encourage them.  They're not going to say, "Hey, that guy has a real logical arguement against my statement, I'm going to relent." No.. They're going to say "LOL NUBS, DF SUXX!! *instert here* WAS/IS SO MUCH BETTER THEN DARKFAIL", only with worse spelling and grammer.

     



    And you don't see how the hardcore fans of the game do the same thing? Trolls do this and trolls do that... Troll Troll Troll. You say that trolls have bad spelling and 'GRAMMAR', yet some of the worst writing I've seen has come from rabid fans. Both sides are just as bad. Of course you can't say anything about people's poor grammar because all of a sudden English isn't their first language.

    Quit whining people. Discuss things rationally, argue them ignorantly, ignore people who say things you don't agree with if you must, but take care of these things at the point of origin, don't drag them out and start new threads about them. If there is a thread talking about Darkfall's combat and somebody says that 'Darkfail SUXX cuz it's all running in circles and randomly clicking the mouse!' then debate that issue there don't start a new thread going 'You won't believe what this Troll said!'. For the love of all that's holy start realizing that flame wars are a two way street and if you post a thread like this one you are just as bad as any troll.

     



     

    I never laid the blame squarely on the trolls.. Actually, I pretty much put the whole "troll" problem on the fanboy's themselves..  And yes, there are some fanboys that are just as rediculous as the trolls themselves.  Oh boy, I also spelled grammar wrong.. ironic ain't it?  But, it still stands true..  The worst on both sides make rediculous claims with poor spelling and grammar (I sooo wanted to use an e).  The real problem is most of the more hardcore "fanboys" can't tell the difference between an actual internet troll, and a critic or burned former fan of Darkfall's ideas. 

    But what I said still stands, the more they try to "fight back" against REAL trolls, the worse their troll problem will get.  Many of the worst trolls almost always use horrible grammar and spelling, along with leet speak thrown in (but their amateurs, usually from SA or "ebaums") while the most successful trolls go almost unnoticed.  But proper trolling seems to be a lost artform as it seems every 12yr old that visited 4chan think they can troll, and/or are actually funny.  A talanted troll is, sometimes, a beautiful thing to watch..  But usually, they're so good you don't know that you've been trolled until after you smashed your monitor in a fit of nerdrage.



     

     

     

    the blame should be lamed squarely and completely on the darkfall fanbois that have haunted every forum online (that they could find) with darkfall this and darkfall that for about the past year.

     

    a LOT of negative posting people on this forum are a direct result of the idiocy of posting how great darkfall is on other forums, where people really didn't care about darkfall one way or the other.

    could we please get correspondent writers and moderators, on the eve forum at mmorpg.com, who are well-versed on eve-online and aren't just passersby pushing buttons? pretty please?

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