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War looks to be dying a death. Let us pray.

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  • lapommelapomme Member Posts: 270

     No offense to people who like Warhammer, but I hope the game dies so we might get DAoC Origins (far superior MMO in many opinions) :)

  • AngorimAngorim Member Posts: 466
    Originally posted by Kyleran

    Originally posted by AelxProter

    Originally posted by Livett

    Originally posted by AelxProter

     You like DAOC enough to compare everything to it? It looked like shit.  It was yet "another shitty medieval plotline with boring races and no attitude". Go back to 2001 and stay there.

     

    Just curious. Did you actually play DAoC?

    You say it "looked like shit", yet you put "it was yet another medieval etc"

     

    Not defending the OP, but I will defend DAoC if anything.

     

     

    Tried it, Trashed it fast.

    Go back to 2001, the game looked like shit, even anarchy online which had a million bugs was more worthwhile in looks and depth

     

    You do realize DAOC underwent a number of graphic updates over the year and in fact the game engine WAR is using is the evolution from the one used in DAOC right?

    I don't think they look all that different actually, even today.

    And its been said before, gamplay is whats important, not graphics.

     

    Aelx pretty much made it obvious in his first post that he's both 1) never played DAoC and 2) obviously attempting to troll and a pathetic attempt at that. 

    DAoC for it's time was on par if not pushing the graphical bar (Remember, this was 2001, which you seem obssessed with repeating).  I love opinionated children that feel as though their opinion is valid when having never even sampled the very thing they're putting down.  Ahh the WoW generation, it's almost comedic at times until you realize that they're more often than not serious which it then becomes down right pathetic.

  • local93bclocal93bc Member Posts: 353

    When i play this game.

    Every 10 min on avarage, somthing  pops up that I can think of, that would have improved the game.

    Its not a bad game. but i think it will take 4 years for them to polish it to the pointe to where id spend 165$ a year to play it.

    All Mmo's have always been like that. And thats not going to change.

    they can't make a mmo so good it will keep my attention for more then a few months.

    My standards are to high.

     

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  • vladwwvladww Member UncommonPosts: 417
    Originally posted by AelxProter

    Originally posted by Livett

    Originally posted by AelxProter

     You like DAOC enough to compare everything to it? It looked like shit.  It was yet "another shitty medieval plotline with boring races and no attitude". Go back to 2001 and stay there.

     

    Just curious. Did you actually play DAoC?

    You say it "looked like shit", yet you put "it was yet another medieval etc"

     

    Not defending the OP, but I will defend DAoC if anything.

     

     

    Tried it, Trashed it fast.

    Go back to 2001, the game looked like shit, even anarchy online which had a million bugs was more worthwhile in looks and depth

    This is gotta be a joke.

     

    One thing is sure :

    Daoc delivered a mountain to players in 2001, War delivered a bland piece of mud in 2008.

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    Playing : Uncharted Waters Online
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  • XantalXantal Member Posts: 32

    daoc was wide open, war is pretty linear.

    I think the best you can hope for here is endgame x-packs beyond rvr lakes

  • General-ZodGeneral-Zod Member UncommonPosts: 868
    Originally posted by local93bc


    When i play this game.
    Every 10 min on avarage, somthing  pops up that I can think of, that would have improved the game.
    Its not a bad game. but i think it will take 4 years for them to polish it to the pointe to where id spend 165$ a year to play it.
    All Mmo's have always been like that. And thats not going to change.
    they can't make a mmo so good it will keep my attention for more then a few months.
    My standards are to high.
     



     

    I agree... local93ba

    They didnt even have to make DAoC 2 ... they could of just picked up where they left off with DAoC (as far as gameplay) and the game still would of been enjoyable... some people are going back because of the patch and some people still enjoy the game ... thats great, but alot of you guys arent level 40 and this is probably the first (nice) game you've played since you left your crappy little mmo...

    Sorry... but after you've been driving around in a Lexus... you cant go back to taking buses

    My standards are also high

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  • ShastraShastra Member Posts: 1,061

    European Karak Eight Peaks server, two full warbands caping bo and keep, then went on to doing dungeons. Its 4 am and i just quit while one warband is still going on.

    OP is an obvious troll. This game is very active. People who play it know this for fact.

  • IronZIronZ Member Posts: 107

    en·vis·age Listen to the pronunciation of envisage

    Pronunciation:

    in-?vi-zij, en-

    Function:

    transitive verb

    Inflected Form(s):

    en·vis·aged; en·vis·ag·ing

    Etymology:

    French envisager, from en- + visage face

    Date:

    1660

    1 : to view or regard in a certain way <envisages the slum as a hotbed of crime> 2 : to have a mental picture of especially in advance of realization <envisages an entirely new system of education>

     

    To end the confusion, lol, sheesh!

     

    Z

  • VyntVynt Member UncommonPosts: 757

    I've just started back up, on Vortex which is a med/med usually. I'm having a blast and the pop seems solid. I'm in t2 atm, but at like 1:30am, even had near full wb against similar numbers.

    Heck, last night, scenarios were popping up for me crazy even near midnight, and did a little orvr too when a call was made. I've also noticed a lot of people on my server, like me that have just started or recently came back. Also, in this next month, you'll see an increase in population with slayer and choppa coming out.

    They're one of the reasons I've come back, and glad I came back even before they're available because I am having fun, hehe. It is weird. I loved the game in the closed beta. Played it for quite a while, but once it went live, I was bored of it quickly. Now, I'm loving it again.

  • todeswulftodeswulf Member Posts: 715

    Yep game dying never mind that nightly Queue I have to wait through on PT

    Never mind the MMO report just called WAR WoWs younger hotter, sluttier sister and went on to say the game was wildly popular becasue it was so darn fun to play...that is the first time they have ever said anything positive about a game that wasn't WoW.

    Number 2 download on D2D Right now

    Number 3 download on Steam

    Number 2 MMO curently at EBgames sales wise.

     

    Yeah ....dying......

  • googajoob7googajoob7 Member Posts: 866

    i think the big problem i find with warhammer is that  i really only want to play for a month now and again . it lacks that something that would keep me interested for longer stays and makes me want to invest time building up a character and making long term contacts in the game world . the problem is these less popular games stick to the basic buisness model ( 8.99 uk pounds a month ) . i think play nc are very wise to offer the 15 day time cards . i find the same thing with city of heroes but 15 days now and then is enough for me . warhammer could offer far more competative monthly fee and maybe get more subs . i dont think warhammer will  die anytime soon . these mmos can limp on with a lot less subs that warhmmers gettting at the moment . the truth is it does pvp better than wow at moment ( which really is a mess ) but when i play warhammer i feel like i may as well be playing team fortess or something .

  • DrakkhenDrakkhen Member Posts: 195
    Originally posted by Ionselon
    There have been no server merges, so you lost more credibility there.
    I play on Ironfist and it's a full-full population server that is very active.  You just wanted something to whine about.
    Ion

     

    Uhm, technicality ... they called them "transfers" .. but whole servers moved to other servers.

  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880

    yes war if really addicting to play and is really one of the best pvp mmo's out there. The problem it has is it leaves players wanting to take a break after a month or two then come back. there isn't really anything that makes you wanna play continuously.

  • XantalXantal Member Posts: 32

    no question the game lacks a wide variety content but most new MMO's don't...Even daoc didn't have much outside of the base world/frontiers.  

    Pieces are in place though, right decisions needs to keep being made.

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    It s improving eery patch. Stuff they re adding is making it the best game out there. Soon to be even better.

  • PheacePheace Member Posts: 2,408
    Originally posted by Frostbite05


    yes war if really addicting to play and is really one of the best pvp mmo's out there. The problem it has is it leaves players wanting to take a break after a month or two then come back. there isn't really anything that makes you wanna play continuously.

     

    It may be a common current trend but to me any MMO that leaves me wondering what to do after 2 months is classified failure to be honest. (not WAR specific) I picked this genre up exactly because it was this "unending" type of gameplay (I 'm an endless reroller, even in single player games, I hardly ever finish them, even if i'm at the last gate, just prefer it not to end :D). If a game feels over in just 2 months or so, it's not the game for me (emphasis on "for me" :D)

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  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,538
    Originally posted by NovaKayne

    Originally posted by Haart


    Yes, quite sure. It was inevitable that the die-hards jump on the bandwagon straight away to defend THEIR game, the point is, if it was still that great you wouldn't have replied within moments to be honest. SO many server merges already speaks for itself if you wanted another piece of evidence.
    But anyway, I envisaged great things from Mythic after the wonderful DAoC. But to be fair, I knew the ship would begin to list the minute it was hit by the EA torpedo.  It is only a matter of time now.



     

    OK, I am not a diehard.  This is my only post on this.  I have not seen the population drop from my PoV.  Of course I play order on a highly populated Destro server so, cannot speak for the other side.

    Mayhap the Destro peeps are bored?  Mayhap you should try anothr server?  While I admit I do not know if what you are saying is wrong, just do not see it.

    There has been a huge population drop, the player base used to be spread out amongst all the servers with a few over populated ones. Players were leaving by the droves after a few months, which caused more imbalances, which then caused more people to leave or reroll to a different server. Basically, what you have is a lot of people leaving or have left, and the few that still played gathering like moths towards a bright light, aka high pop servers.

    Too many established pvp guilds dropped the game faster than a bad habit, and either went back to WoW, or some other title. From what I have experienced and read, many of those guilds are ironically finding a better pvp experience in WoW (wotlk) than they did in War.

  • ShastraShastra Member Posts: 1,061


    Originally posted by Rabenwolf
    Originally posted by NovaKayne
    Originally posted by Haart Yes, quite sure. It was inevitable that the die-hards jump on the bandwagon straight away to defend THEIR game, the point is, if it was still that great you wouldn't have replied within moments to be honest. SO many server merges already speaks for itself if you wanted another piece of evidence.
    But anyway, I envisaged great things from Mythic after the wonderful DAoC. But to be fair, I knew the ship would begin to list the minute it was hit by the EA torpedo.  It is only a matter of time now. image

     
    OK, I am not a diehard.  This is my only post on this.  I have not seen the population drop from my PoV.  Of course I play order on a highly populated Destro server so, cannot speak for the other side.
    Mayhap the Destro peeps are bored?  Mayhap you should try anothr server?  While I admit I do not know if what you are saying is wrong, just do not see it.



    There has been a huge population drop, the player base used to be spread out amongst all the servers with a few over populated ones. Players were leaving by the droves after a few months, which caused more imbalances, which then caused more people to leave or reroll to a different server. Basically, what you have is a lot of people leaving or have left, and the few that still played gathering like moths towards a bright light, aka high pop servers.
    Too many established pvp guilds dropped the game faster than a bad habit, and either went back to WoW, or some other title. From what I have experienced and read, many of those guilds are ironically finding a better pvp experience in WoW (wotlk) than they did in War.


    yeah things are so bad that i get scenario pop ups and warbands to attack keeps and bo even at 3 am in morning.

    Seriously, WOW fanboys need to stop spreading lies.

  • DataDayDataDay Member UncommonPosts: 1,538
    Originally posted by Shastra


     

    Originally posted by Rabenwolf


    Originally posted by NovaKayne


    Originally posted by Haart
     
    Yes, quite sure. It was inevitable that the die-hards jump on the bandwagon straight away to defend THEIR game, the point is, if it was still that great you wouldn't have replied within moments to be honest. SO many server merges already speaks for itself if you wanted another piece of evidence.

    But anyway, I envisaged great things from Mythic after the wonderful DAoC. But to be fair, I knew the ship would begin to list the minute it was hit by the EA torpedo.  It is only a matter of time now.



     

     

    OK, I am not a diehard.  This is my only post on this.  I have not seen the population drop from my PoV.  Of course I play order on a highly populated Destro server so, cannot speak for the other side.

    Mayhap the Destro peeps are bored?  Mayhap you should try anothr server?  While I admit I do not know if what you are saying is wrong, just do not see it.





    There has been a huge population drop, the player base used to be spread out amongst all the servers with a few over populated ones. Players were leaving by the droves after a few months, which caused more imbalances, which then caused more people to leave or reroll to a different server. Basically, what you have is a lot of people leaving or have left, and the few that still played gathering like moths towards a bright light, aka high pop servers.

    Too many established pvp guilds dropped the game faster than a bad habit, and either went back to WoW, or some other title. From what I have experienced and read, many of those guilds are ironically finding a better pvp experience in WoW (wotlk) than they did in War.

     



    yeah things are so bad that i get scenario pop ups and warbands to attack keeps and bo even at 3 am in morning.

    Seriously, WOW fanboys need to stop spreading lies.

     

    No lies and im definately not a wow fanboy. I do not consider grinding the same scenario over and over again as good pvp, especially when every class looks the same and the same reactions keep occuring, its almost predictable. Its essentially one large tug of war, and attacking keeps in WAR ended up being a huge snoozefest, often imblanaced. Enjoy playign a ranged class that just sits on a wall and goes pew pew pew, or you can be melee and rush in, cause some dmg, die and run back. Thats not good pvp. It feels like nothing really changes at all, and you are lucky if you find a strong balance between destro and order. Just to let you know the guild i play with was end game in WAR with a couple high lvl alts as well. We came, we conquered and we left...while yawning. I dont hate WAR, but its really not a very well designed game.

    You can hate WoW all you want, but its successful for a reason. Blizzard delivers solid, big, and polished gameplay. There is always something to do, and the world doesnt feel like a big ladder in which you go up or down, you dont even have to worry about turning into a chicken because you went to a low lvl zone.

    Im sorry you feel that anyone who has something possitive to say about WoW, or the fact that some guilds decided wotlk had more pvp fun than WAR...it doesnt make them fanboys, they just want some quality action.

  • LondonMagusLondonMagus Member Posts: 700
    Originally posted by Haart


    Yes, quite sure. It was inevitable that the die-hards jump on the bandwagon straight away to defend their game, the point is, if it was still that great you wouldn't have replied within moments to be honest. So many server merges already speaks for itself if you wanted another piece of evidence.
    But anyway, I envisaged great things from Mythic after the wonderful DAoC. But to be fair, I knew the ship would begin to list the minute it was hit by the EA torpedo.  It is only a matter of time now.

    Hmm, lets look at the stats. Less than 50 posts with almost all of them having been made this week. There are numerous sappy Fanboi posts on a variety of Darkfall forum threads & this sad attempt at provoking WAR players here.

    Given your obvious allegiance, please don't try to argue about evidence of failure as everyone else has far too much ammunition. I honestly hope your chosen game succeeds but it looks far less secure than WAR & it has only just launched. At least you won't need to worry about server merges when they only have one.

    WAR isn't perfect by any means, but in my opinion it is still great fun to play & it certainly isn't dead yet on my server.

    According to your posts on the Darkfall forums, you are one of the lucky few who has actually got in so hopefully you will be too busy having fun to bother trying to provoke people here.

    Have fun whatever you play, they are just games after all.

    If you can't "Have your cake & eat it too", then how can "The proof of the pudding be in the eating"?

  • RedleicesterRedleicester Member Posts: 27

    I agree completely with Pheace, I liked WAR but it didn't have the thing that would hold me to play it. When i unsubbed after a couple of months, for me, that was a fail for Mythic.

    WIth single player games, I want to feel that the people who made it earned their money, that's my benchmark for them. MMOs, I want the hook to be good enough to keep me there and WAR didn't have "it", whatever "it" was.

    From what my mates who are still playing say though, the OP appears to be dangling one fat troll on his hook.

  • chinchilla32chinchilla32 Member Posts: 51

    New expansion and opening up offices in Russia, hardly the activities of a failed / dying MMO.

    Especially when it is vastly superior to WoW in every aspect.

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  • WuuduuWuuduu Member Posts: 62

    its not expansion, thy just added content/chars, which they kicked out from close beta to full game start.

     

    In a fact, there wasnt ANY expansion, since game started... al is just old things, which theyre slowly puttin back, heh... notingh new.

  • Frostbite05Frostbite05 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,880
    Originally posted by Rabenwolf

    Originally posted by Shastra


     

    Originally posted by Rabenwolf


    Originally posted by NovaKayne


    Originally posted by Haart
     
    Yes, quite sure. It was inevitable that the die-hards jump on the bandwagon straight away to defend THEIR game, the point is, if it was still that great you wouldn't have replied within moments to be honest. SO many server merges already speaks for itself if you wanted another piece of evidence.

    But anyway, I envisaged great things from Mythic after the wonderful DAoC. But to be fair, I knew the ship would begin to list the minute it was hit by the EA torpedo.  It is only a matter of time now.



     

     

    OK, I am not a diehard.  This is my only post on this.  I have not seen the population drop from my PoV.  Of course I play order on a highly populated Destro server so, cannot speak for the other side.

    Mayhap the Destro peeps are bored?  Mayhap you should try anothr server?  While I admit I do not know if what you are saying is wrong, just do not see it.





    There has been a huge population drop, the player base used to be spread out amongst all the servers with a few over populated ones. Players were leaving by the droves after a few months, which caused more imbalances, which then caused more people to leave or reroll to a different server. Basically, what you have is a lot of people leaving or have left, and the few that still played gathering like moths towards a bright light, aka high pop servers.

    Too many established pvp guilds dropped the game faster than a bad habit, and either went back to WoW, or some other title. From what I have experienced and read, many of those guilds are ironically finding a better pvp experience in WoW (wotlk) than they did in War.

     



    yeah things are so bad that i get scenario pop ups and warbands to attack keeps and bo even at 3 am in morning.

    Seriously, WOW fanboys need to stop spreading lies.

     

    No lies and im definately not a wow fanboy. I do not consider grinding the same scenario over and over again as good pvp, especially when every class looks the same and the same reactions keep occuring, its almost predictable. Its essentially one large tug of war, and attacking keeps in WAR ended up being a huge snoozefest, often imblanaced. Enjoy playign a ranged class that just sits on a wall and goes pew pew pew, or you can be melee and rush in, cause some dmg, die and run back. Thats not good pvp. It feels like nothing really changes at all, and you are lucky if you find a strong balance between destro and order. Just to let you know the guild i play with was end game in WAR with a couple high lvl alts as well. We came, we conquered and we left...while yawning. I dont hate WAR, but its really not a very well designed game.

    You can hate WoW all you want, but its successful for a reason. Blizzard delivers solid, big, and polished gameplay. There is always something to do, and the world doesnt feel like a big ladder in which you go up or down, you dont even have to worry about turning into a chicken because you went to a low lvl zone.

    Im sorry you feel that anyone who has something possitive to say about WoW, or the fact that some guilds decided wotlk had more pvp fun than WAR...it doesnt make them fanboys, they just want some quality action.

    To be honest there are always 1-2 warbands in every pvp lake for each tier so grinding scenerios is just an option you don't have too and honestly I don't recommend it

  • LeucentLeucent Member Posts: 2,371

    Scenarios are an after thought now. There is alot to do in this game now, and it s done well. The game has improved a ton. I m realy looking forward to the DFstyle dungeon and the areas around it. Fighting for cntrol of it will be fun for months. There are some more great thing coming down the pipe so I m happy with the game now. I ll be the first to admit I wasn t to thrilled with it at release but saw the potential. Now it s really starting to shine.

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