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Newsflash: WoW Fanboi Slams LotRO....hilarious
just1opinion
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I got the following private message in my email and thought it was pretty comical. I thought I'd share it with you guys, just for the laughs!
Hilarious what a fanboi will do to "valiantly defend" their preeeecioussssss.....
LOL
----Original Message----
So you finally gave in on the hate threads.:))
LOTRO has TERRIBLE animated graphics with each avatar having a stick in their ass.
A hunter shoots at 10 inch when being in close combat. Terribly animated.
The linair quests are so dull you fall asleep behind it after playing it for 5 days.
In fact I each time got a skin desease after trying it for a couple of days.
The films were epic, the books legendary, but this LOTRO is a very bad and very dull copy of PVE Wow and just another try to cash in on the Wow gold mine.
Have fun with those spiders in that farmers cave and ...
I never saw bandits have picnic tables with stolen goods on show in a forest.
God Lady, you can't even swim or take the sky in this dead copy cat.
But at least you wanted some credibility to those other 250 Wow haters on mmorpg.com
Just be sure to leave before the skin cancer sets in.
You'll see ... it is THAT bad after a few playing sessions.
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Here was my response:
Actually, I disagree with everything you said, other than there are no flying mounts. I don't find this to be a bad thing. I've gotten pretty sick of having to spend 5000g on a epic mount for every toon I have. What a retarded gold sink. F**k that.
I played WoW for FOUR YEARS, since the original BETA, no less. I have a max level character of all the classes, I've played every race, I've done pretty much all there is to do. I didn't "give in to the haters." I played the game until I was BORED with it. And I enjoyed it IMMENSELY for the time that I played it. People DO move on to other games. I can't think of anyone I've ever known that has played just ONE MMO for their entire gaming career. Is WoW all that YOU have ever played?
Furthermore....I have a lvl 30 minstrel in LotRO, and several alts, and I LOVE the game. I didn't just start playing a trial yesterday, I'm actually PLAYING it. You can't play to level 7 and think you know much about the game, Sir. Now I don't know if, in fact, that's the length of time you played, but from what you described...it sounds like your experience with LotRO is very limited, while MY experience with WOW...is quite lengthy.
I think the difference of opinion you and I have on these games is probably the fact that I'm 45 and you're....how old? 53? That's interesting, because the fact that you felt a need to send me a private message trashing a game that I'm playing seems more like something a teenage fanboi would do. You're 53...really? LOL Okay, if you say so, but...I have to say I rather doubt it, considering this message you sent me.
EDIT: You have to love fanbois. Oh wait....no you don't.
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
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That was funny. LOTRO characters don't look like they have a stick up their rectum to me.
Yeah, THAT comment made me wonder if he'd even PLAYED the game at ALL, honestly. I mean, I have a great computer and am running the game with DX10 graphics and high graphic settings all the way around, but even with THAT.....I can't imagine that the game looks like what he described even set on LOW. LOL!!
I think this is one of those people that played the trial only....got disappointed because it didn't lead him around by the hand enough, or there weren't any MODS for it to point him in the right direction for quests or SOMETHING....and went whining home to WoW with his panties all in a twist.
I believe this guy is 54 years old about as much as I think my 19 year old son is, because frankly, feeling the need to send a private message to someone like the above....just REEKS of immaturity. I don't even think my teenagers would have bothered to do that. LOL
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
/Highfive
If you use bold instead of CAPS it's even better because it adds more emphasis, and people don't like CAPS.
/Doublehighfive
lol, thanks....I'll remember that!
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
There's no way that guy is 53. I've also played WoW since the original open Beta over four years ago. Although I don't have every class at max level yet, I'm close. Quite frankly, WoW is a nice game, but just like every game out there, people will eventually get to their saturation point and want to move on. I've thought about it and I know others have. I'm a fan of WoW and have enjoyed it quite thoroughly, but that doesn't mean their can't be other good games out there.
If LotRO had a Mac client, I'd probably be there already. I love the lore and it would be nice to experience something different for a while. I love WoW and will always be fond of it and probably come back from time to time, but no game is perfect and that includes WoW. Sometimes you just need some variety.
P.S. I'm 47, so I agree with your maturity assessment.
Actually, they do look that, at least the male humans. And the animations in LOTRO are very *very* repetitive and drove me out of the game.
Just because he is can't spell and is probably less than 13 years old doesn't mean his points should be discredited. Also the quests are very dumb.... and if you were a bandit, leaving stolen goods on a picnic table in the middle of a forest does seem kind of counter-intuitive
EDIT: Besides OP, you didn't even put a counterpoint in your response, all you said was that you've played WoW for a while, that you like LOTRO, and you don't think that the WoW player played LOTRO
I don't know what's worse, the fact that people defend a game like it's their first born child or the fact that every point this person makes as an "insult" can be equally said about the game he is defending. Makes you wonder why they're always on these forums praising the game instead of playing.
Regarding the animations, not really sure how "repetitive" can be used to describe animations since you're always reusing the same abilities/skills. Also, you can't really judge the entire game based around one quest not being super-epic-awesomeness; it's a quest driven game and while most have back stories that are interesting and engaging, some are merely filler experience.
I have just re-subbed this game and the only reason I left was because of the poor customer service from my old friends Codemaster, they are a bunch of rather immature idiots imo, but the game it's self is very stable and the community appears to be very mature and helpful to say the least.
I thought I would give it a month to have another look at it seem the dust will have settled now and hopefully they will have sorted many of the bugs and issues the game used to have. Just my luck I started a Guardian and it appears that holding agro is hard as it is broken since the expansion, but they appear to be repairing this within their two week patch.
As for this game being poor compared to Wow that idiot could not be further from the truth, I am 52 years old and have to say he/she needs to conduct themselves some what more mature, because games are all about choice and while this may not be for him I can not get my head round why someone would go out of their way to PM so much dross to impress you.
All that they have achieved is to make themselves look like an idiot on here.
Bandit.
Asbo
I 've played WOW( it's still on my harddrive with both xpacs) and now play LOTRO and AoC off and on. I like wow..but often break from it for months at a time. I really like Lotro and AoC but agree with the fanboi about the lack of underwater experience. Though it seems minor to many...I find that..with todays games.mmos..you should be able to go anywhere within reason. There no excuse not too. Even if there are no quests...the rivers ,lakes and oceans should be teaming with life and accessible . If for no other reason than immersion. That and limited instancing is what WOW really got right...but a complete graphic upgrade would be great. Guess we'll have to wait for the new blizzard mmo. Lotro and AoC are just too beautiful....and the game play is equal if not better than WOW , imo. The only problems are the invisible walls and incomplete world experience. Instances and invisible walls abound in AOC..and although you can swim and retrieve quest items from the waters. There is no life under the waves...absolutely none. The crocodiles don't even chase you into the water...you can escape a crocodile by swimming into the river!?!?! Lotro invisible walls and instancing are less so..but the world lacks complete accessibility. They are still great games and these are not game breaking issues for me. the perfect mmo for me right now would be LotRO..with WOW full accessible world...limited instances...and Vanguards Crafting and Diplomacy features. Not that lotro's crafting is bad...it's better than most now..but vanguard's is by far..the best i've encounter in current mmos. The Diplomacy feature is just damn cool and fun.
Yes, WoW also holds a special place in my heart. It's the first MMO that our family played together. Before WoW, I was the only gamer in the family, which is no longer the case.
I left WoW because I felt I had finally "worn it out" a bit. Do I hate the game? Absolutely not. As a matter of fact, I'll probably re-sub to it again some day and play both WoW and LotRO at the same time. But I foresee LotRO being on my gaming bill for quite some time to come. The community alone so far exceeds what I have found in most other games, that it's truly amazing.
Also, it's really nice to be playing a game again that you can't really easily play to max level by soloing. I'm not even entirely sure it's possible at all with LotRO. Whereas with WoW, it's pretty easy to reach max level without ever running any instances, raids, or anything. It would take a lot of fun out of the game, I think, but people do it there all the time. And in so doing...they miss a tremendous amount of excellent content.
There is another thing about WoW that began to really bother me at the end.....
Abandoned zones.
LotRO doesn't really have this issue. Reason being, Turbine intelligently designed the game so as to make it one inter-connected vast world. You see level 60s in Michel Delving all the time. You see people in their teen levels in Lone Lands and the North Downs. There is no area that has been abandoned because the majority of the player base has "out-leveled" it. There are reasons to go back to every zone. And there are reasons for low level players to venture forth into very very dangerous zones. I love being SCARED again about going somewhere!
Sadly, Blizzard didn't do this, and there are large portions of the game world that are just empty. There are wonderful dungeons that never get run anymore. Shattrath is a ghost town now, with the exception of some deathknights. That is all very sad to me.
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
That was very very funny. I have played LOTRO for a year now. It's a very deep and massive game. It has complex and involved quests. Very well written stories. (of course consider the source material) I actually want to read the lore. The graphics are very very well done and run on a wide variety of hardware. The updates are frequent and almost always bug free. People are scared of change. The fact that this individual sent you this is probably because he is scared of LOTRO. A really good game that does NOT fall back on potty humor whenever they run out of ideas. I never really liked wow. I played it for about 4 months. I just could not get into it. Every zone just started to look the same after a while. The game could not decide if it wanted to be taken seriously or not. Not being able to communicate with 1/2 the player base was frustrating especially when you were competing for the same MOB for the same quests because Blizzard did not want to make different content for the alliance and the horde. So they funneled everyone through the same zones doing the same thing. After dealing with that I lost interest. Turbine has done a fantastic job and has enough content to last another 10 years. One MMO to rule them all!
BTW what server are you on?
The two most common elements in the universe are Hydrogen and stupidity. - Harlan Ellison
Im sorry but there is no other way to say this...
Animations in LOTRO are horrible. Specially when you consider the great looking world craphix of the game. It is for me a gamebreaking feature - One I simply have been unale to look past. And I really have tried.
Man I have no idea what kind of machine you're playing on, but LotRO's graphics are phenomenal. If you're trying to play it on a calculator that will run WoW....that's likely the problem.
In DX10 maxed graphics, it's the most beautiful game world that I have EVER seen. So....not sure what your issue is with the gfx, sounds more like a computer problem to me.
And I disagree on the animations as well....
And to the poster that asked what server I am on:
VILYA
=D
President of The Marvelously Meowhead Fan Club
I feel that in some cases that is true. I still don't like how they interpret women running. But there are many that are also very good.
I have mixed feelings about the character art as I don't like the fixed hair atop the character's heads that seem molded from clay.
I also don't like the feeling of shooting an arrow but not facing my foe and hitting him. These are criticisms that I have and I know others feel the same way.
But they can be overlooked.
The story based quests are fun, the world is rendered rather well, and there is less of the ridiculous in LOTRO. That's not to say that it doesn't have it's share of whimsy (was recently showed the emotion results... check these out they are very funny) but at least at this point the game takes itself seriously enough that it doesn't feel junky.
And though his assessment of the emotional impact in relation to the movies is something that I also feel at times, it's also subjective.
Playing a human or hobbit in the very first instance and seeing the nazgul and getting that large fiery eye on the screen is somethng that really brings it all home to me. I don't get enough of that connection to the LOTRO source material but then again some of that is subjective and some of that is because we aren't the fellowship but another fellowship with our own story, our own experiences in middle earth.
I don't agree with a lot that they've done but I also think it's a very good game and very fun.
As far as the comments regarding "taking to the sky", this stuff is disturbing. That's like saying you can't have fire arms or submarines. this comes from people who just don't understand the world they are playing in. As far as swimming goes, well one can swim but you can't go under water. I'm not sure of the reasoning for this but it really isn't necessary to go under water.
Unless they are one of the few people over the time of the game who wanted under water castles and adventures. This is mostly D&D type stuff. If someone were to go under water and get to an submerged city then "ok" but I don't know of any submerged buildings in the LOTRO stories or history. It might just be more effort of very little bang for the buck.
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I thought they were horrible too...then I upgraded my PC...and it made a universe of difference. They're still not the best, imo...but nice. Not saying this is your issue...just saying it was mine.
I got a high end computer so its not that. I run most other games in highest settings including games like AOC. Its not that. Its just... The animations are so mecanic - and slow... They simply dont fit into the great world of LOTRs. I dont know why Turbine hasn't put more focus on fixing this already. I consider it to be gamebreaking - cause I really can't bother to play a game that I hate such basic feature off.
Now.. this doesn't mean Im a sucker to top graphix and animations only. But there has to be certain standard in all departments if the game is gonna be worth me subs. LOTRO simply hasn't. And TBH I find that sad cause I love the story.
Im pretty sure that there are alot of MMO gamers that feel the same. If only Turbine would do something about it...
I can understand why someone would feel that way. they are not the most fluid of animations. For me...it's not game breaking now. It was on my lower end PC..but then again I was only getting a max of 25 fps and usually under 10 fps...on LOW settings..lol. Now I can max out ...AoC too...both beautiful games.
I too played WoW for a long time and enjoyed it alot. I no longer enjoy playing it though and have moved on. It's just not any fun to level up and do all the same stuff over again for a new class plus I hate how the game feels like you can't compete or really even have fun till max level. WoW does alot of things right - UI, movement - every mmo should copy wow's key settings and the way you move your characters. But I just couldn't get into LOTRO. I too do not like the character animations. It's just a different style - which isn't for me. I also don't really like the classes all that much. For some reason none of them sounded very fun to me. I played for a bit - not really enough to make a complete opinion on the game. I just don't think the game is for me. It's a nice looking game and I'm sure it's fun. I did like the cut scenes though.
It's kinda funny I finally found MY mmo and it's a free one. I never thought I'd play a free mmo full time but here I am doing just that. It's called Atlantica Online. I am a huge fan of turn based games. I miss them so much. Plus Atlantica Online just has so much to offer. There's so much to do. Between questing, killing 1k mobs for a title and opening all my loot boxes and enhancing my gear I also run down and bet on the Arena - It's a arena where npc's fight and you can place bets to win more money. It's fun. The pvp is fun if not a bit random but so far I'm super impressed with the game. It's the first free one that I've ever spent money in a cash shop. They seem to have alot of people and even opened a new server this last month - That's kinda a rarity for free mmo's. Usually they start out with 2 or 3 servers and alot of people then a few months after they're a ghost town riddled with bots. Anyway, it just goes to show we're all different and some people enjoy some games and others enjoy different games so why bash a game or a person? Just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's bad. LOTRO is obviously a good game or it wouldn't have any players. WoW is a good game. Atlantica ONline is a good game. They're all good games targeted to different types of people. Just enjoy your game and let others enjoy theirs. As long as you're having fun - that's all that matters. Take care everyone.
P.S. Sorry if the last paragraph sounded like an ad for Atlantica. I"m new to that game and have been having so much fun - I'm really suprised by how much I've enjoyed it and wanted to share that with others. Its been a long time since I've had fun in a mmo. I've been in a bad funk this last year and finally burned out on wow : ( I'll probably give it a whirl again someday or hopefully Blizzard will have their new one made by then or Star Wars the Old Republic will be out. Take care.
I couldn't care less what a WoW fanboi thought of ANYTHING, let alone LotRO.
. As far as swimming goes, well one can swim but you can't go under water. I'm not sure of the reasoning for this but it really isn't necessary to go under water.
I like the feeling of a fully accessible world...I think subtle details like..dynamic shadows and lighting....moving grass/swaying trees..climbable mountains..reasonably accessible terrain..including underwater...really add a lot to a game. For me it's just an immersion issue...the feeling of an open..living ..breathing world. It's not that I want to re-enact "The Little Mermaid" in an mmo or pretend I'm Aquaman(at least not before DCUO comes out...scratch that...nobody wants to be Aquaman..lol) A beautiful touch in AoC...is the buzzing of flies and gnats...that sounds like it's right in your ear...it's almost as annoying as in real life...which...i'm sorry...to me that is great . Just another little detail. An example of a great game with an off putting sound detail..imo...is when I'm quite a distance from a city in Lotro ..but the sound of city noises and wagons rolling by still sound like they are on top of you. Anyway..sorry I went a bit off topic.
. As far as swimming goes, well one can swim but you can't go under water. I'm not sure of the reasoning for this but it really isn't necessary to go under water.
I like the feeling of a fully accessible world...I think subtle details like..dynamic shadows and lighting....moving grass/swaying trees..climbable mountains..reasonably accessible terrain..including underwater...really add a lot to a game. For me it's just an immersion issue...the feeling of an open..living ..breathing world. It's not that I want to re-enact "The Little Mermaid" in an mmo or pretend I'm Aquaman(at least not before DCUO comes out...scratch that...nobody wants to be Aquaman..lol) A beautiful touch in AoC...is the buzzing of flies and gnats...that sounds like it's right in your ear...it's almost as annoying as in real life...which...i'm sorry...to me that is great . Just another little detail. An example of a great game with an off putting sound detail..imo...is when I'm quite a distance from a city in Lotro ..but the sound of city noises and wagons rolling by still sound like they are on top of you. Anyway..sorry I went a bit off topic.
I don't think it's necessarily off topic as it addresses some of the complaints that the OP's messenger had.
I can't disagree with you as it could seem somewhat unnatural NOT to go underwater. I just don't know if there is a real reason for this. they are certainly capable of adding it as we know that DDO has it and it's quite decent.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
May I suggest a great RPG game just out that might intrest you. Its called Drakensang - not turned based but you can pause the gameplay to plan your moves. And its really great looking game. And the avatars and the animations are just.. out of this world. Exept maybe for the running animation ;Þ
his point about not being able to swim always bothered me as well. it kinda ruined the immersion in the game world. Flying mounts is a non issue for me. I like them but the lack of them doesn't detract from the world.
I played LoTR at launch and then stopped and tried to come back. I quit after getting frustrated at not being able to do the main storyline quests because I couldn't get a group. I'm guessing it is even worse now in this reguard.
Maybe someday LoTR will implement mentoring like eq2 that would probably fix this whole issue.
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Ethion
The animations in LOTRO have a form of LOD, your hardware determines if this is used or not. It, in practice, skips frames in an animation thread, causing it to look more like a 2D animation if you were to remove ever other, or every 3ED frame.
This , i think is what people are seeing. As a point of contrast, LOTRO is one of the few MMO's to have a unique animation for all most every single action/ability. Where some games, use the same animations for 20 different ability's and just change the particle or other FX.
Hence the LOD, or frame skping to reduce transforms, where other games do not.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
. As far as swimming goes, well one can swim but you can't go under water. I'm not sure of the reasoning for this but it really isn't necessary to go under water.
I like the feeling of a fully accessible world...I think subtle details like..dynamic shadows and lighting....moving grass/swaying trees..climbable mountains..reasonably accessible terrain..including underwater...really add a lot to a game. For me it's just an immersion issue...the feeling of an open..living ..breathing world. It's not that I want to re-enact "The Little Mermaid" in an mmo or pretend I'm Aquaman(at least not before DCUO comes out...scratch that...nobody wants to be Aquaman..lol) A beautiful touch in AoC...is the buzzing of flies and gnats...that sounds like it's right in your ear...it's almost as annoying as in real life...which...i'm sorry...to me that is great . Just another little detail. An example of a great game with an off putting sound detail..imo...is when I'm quite a distance from a city in Lotro ..but the sound of city noises and wagons rolling by still sound like they are on top of you. Anyway..sorry I went a bit off topic.
None of that is missing from LOTRO, with exception to "Underwater" areas, and that is because there is no precedent for it in the lore, nor is it realistic. The sound issue you have is 100% because of your sound card, or lack of. All sounds in LOTRO are positional, and have full fall off, your sound card needs to be able to do this, however.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me