Cigarettes do not do what Marijuana does. There is a reason why marijuana is illegal and it's not because your goverment are big meanies or wet blankets or squares.
For more information on the negative effects of Marjuana and other drugs I suggest you visit http://www.drugabuse.gov/
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
<sigh> You have issues dude... You should talk to someone about that.
If burning a plant is illegal, the cancer sticks the manmade cancer sticks should be also.
What's with the <sigh> is that the way the illuminati liberals identify themselves and declare themselves to be superior to the rest of us?
Manmade cancer sticks? What's that ? You mean Tobacco? Is that somehow more man made than marijuana? I mean you don't really think the majority of weed grown in this country isn't heavily cultivated do you? I mean you understand that marijuana is heavily cultivated, fertilized and has additives to increase it's size, potency and effect. While the processing done on marijuana currently isn't to the level of tobacco, there is nothing to indicate that this won't happen once the drugs are made legal. In fact, we should assume that this WILL happen once the the marijuana trade is legalized.
Not that I am surprised by your response, since you started it all off with an ignorant sigh.....
My post, for example. was obvious tongue and cheek but your response was some kind of <sigh>... I mean did you really think that I was advocating lynching, or did it even occur to your very serious self that my post was made in jest, before you decided to advocate my seeking "help"?
Since I have to clarify things for the <sigh> crowd, let me just say that I have no problem legalizing all drugs. But to try to turn the debate into a marijuana v/s tobacco or marijuana v/s alcohol debate makes little sense. The problem with comparing tobacco with marijuana is that there have been several studies done which indicate that if anything marijuana is more carcinogenic than normal tobacco. So you can't say legalize marijuana because its safer than tobacco, because there really isn't any evidence to support this. Pure marijuana might be safer than smoking processed cigarettes, but once marijuana is legalized there is nothing to say that it won't be heavily processed as well. There also isn't any evidence to suggest that the two habits are mutually exclusive. In fact I have personally witnessed many individuals who both smoked marijuana and tobacco. So to suggest that somehow we should legalize marijuana because it's safer than tobacco makes no sense. There is no indication that legalizing marijuana will result in reduced alcohol or tobacco consumption.
What I would argue, and this is a much better argument, is that the cost of enforcing drug laws are simply too high, both in terms of monetary cost and the infringement on our civil liberties. This is especially true in the case of marijuana where the effects of the drug do not seem to be overly harmful. The drug isn't safe, but it falls into the realm of being reasonably safe. And when contrasted against the cost of enforcement and with the infringement on civil liberties that the drug war has resulted in, then we should legalize marijuana both to save us money, and to save our freedom.
Even enforcement of other drug laws, such as, cocaine, is extremely high, with little or no value to society (since the drugs are still available and prohibition has only lead to crime and violence). Yet we continue to spend billions enforcing these drug laws, and we continue to increase the power of the police to invade our privacy so that they can enforce laws which don't seem to have any real effect.
Of course I also believe that guns should be legal, but taking your cue, rather than go into a long diatribe on the subject, I will simply close with a highly intellectual <sigh> to support my position.
<sigh> You have issues dude... You should talk to someone about that.
If burning a plant is illegal, the cancer sticks the manmade cancer sticks should be also.
What's with the <sigh> is that the way the illuminati liberals identify themselves and declare themselves to be superior to the rest of us?
Manmade cancer sticks? What's that ? You mean Tobacco? Is that somehow more man made than marijuana? I mean you don't really think the majority of weed grown in this country isn't heavily cultivated do you? I mean you understand that marijuana is heavily cultivated, fertilized and has additives to increase it's size, potency and effect. While the processing done on marijuana currently isn't to the level of tobacco, there is nothing to indicate that this won't happen once the drugs are made legal. In fact, we should assume that this WILL happen once the the marijuana trade is legalized.
Not that I am surprised by your response, since you started it all off with an ignorant sigh.....
My post, for example. was obvious tongue and cheek but your response was some kind of <sigh>... I mean did you really think that I was advocating lynching, or did it even occur to your very serious self that my post was made in jest, before you decided to advocate my seeking "help"?
Since I have to clarify things for the <sigh> crowd, let me just say that I have no problem legalizing all drugs. But to try to turn the debate into a marijuana v/s tobacco or marijuana v/s alcohol debate makes little sense. The problem with comparing tobacco with marijuana is that there have been several studies done which indicate that if anything marijuana is more carcinogenic than normal tobacco. So you can't say legalize marijuana because its safer than tobacco, because there really isn't any evidence to support this. Pure marijuana might be safer than smoking processed cigarettes, but once marijuana is legalized there is nothing to say that it won't be heavily processed as well. There also isn't any evidence to suggest that the two habits are mutually exclusive. In fact I have personally witnessed many individuals who both smoked marijuana and tobacco. So to suggest that somehow we should legalize marijuana because it's safer than tobacco makes no sense. There is no indication that legalizing marijuana will result in reduced alcohol or tobacco consumption.
What I would argue, and this is a much better argument, is that the cost of enforcing drug laws are simply too high, both in terms of monetary cost and the infringement on our civil liberties. This is especially true in the case of marijuana where the effects of the drug do not seem to be overly harmful. The drug isn't safe, but it falls into the realm of being reasonably safe. And when contrasted against the cost of enforcement and with the infringement on civil liberties that the drug war has resulted in, then we should legalize marijuana both to save us money, and to save our freedom.
Even enforcement of other drug laws, such as, cocaine, is extremely high, with little or no value to society (since the drugs are still available and prohibition has only lead to crime and violence). Yet we continue to spend billions enforcing these drug laws, and we continue to increase the power of the police to invade our privacy so that they can enforce laws which don't seem to have any real effect.
Of course I also believe that guns should be legal, but taking your cue, rather than go into a long diatribe on the subject, I will simply close with a highly intellectual <sigh> to support my position.
The <sigh> was in response to your lynching statement. Don't get upset by it. I shook my head also if it makes you feel any better. Tongue and cheek or not, I obviously wasn't the only person "moved" by your comment or attempt at a lame joke. No worries. I'll note your sarcasm for later entries.
To get this out of the way early, guns don't kill people. People kill people.. sometimes with guns, other times with knives or whatever. Last time I checked, all guns were not illegal buddy... especially in Florida. You just need a permit to own a gun - legally. Oh yeah - [Insert "intellectual <sigh>]. haha... geez. Relax guy. It's not that serious. But that should be a nice compliment to your gun legalization beliefs.
You're correct in your notion that weed may be heavily processed after legalization, but we won't know that unless that happens - correct? I didn't say cigarettes were safer than weed, but did I have to say it? I'm saying... if you continuously smoke boxes of cigarettes, there's a good chance you'll wind up with cancer and die. If you smoke an overabundance of weed.. you'll get what... extra tired... the munchies... laugh a lot?? To overdose on marijuana a person would have to consume around 1,500 hundred pounds in just 15 minutes. The effects of marijuana are can include: dry mouth, hunger, red eyes, euphoria, relaxation, reduced blood pressure, sleepiness, distorted perception of time and space and disruption in the ability to pay attention. Know the facts first then please enlighten me. But wait... there's more!
You're correct in saying that the cost of enforcing drug laws are too high. But I can't agree with you saying you have no problems legalizing ALL drugs. That's your belief.. that's fine. You like it I love it. I just don't agree with it. And to say that debating between marijuana, tobacco and alcohol makes little sense lets me know that you may want to take yourself down from your pedestal a couple of levels. Example: marijuana has never killed anyone, yet it is often viewed as a dangerous and addictive drug. Tobacco and alcohol on the other hand killed over 500,000 people in the year 2000. Despite these high death tolls, tobacco and alcohol remain legal, with marijuana arrests rising every year. Marijuana is not as addictive as other legal drugs such as caffeine, alcohol or tobacco. About 70 billiona dollars is spent every year on the war on drugs. If marijuana was legalized the government could tax it just like alcohol and cigarettes. $7.7 billion dollars was collected from the tobacco excise tax in the 2006 fiscal year. The legalization of marijuana would boost the economy and produce tax revenue for important world issues. The war on drugs has put millions of people in jail.
A survey conducted by the Nation Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse found that 34 percent of teens said the marijuana is easier to attain than alcohol or tobacco. More than one-third of the teens said they could get marijuana within a few hours. Teens have an easier time buying illegal substances because they are not regulated. If we can regulate who can buy, what they’re buying and how much their buying, we would have a much better chance at keeping drugs out of the hands of our youth, we could gain revenue from the drugs and we could reduce violent crime related to drugs.
But you're not ready for that yet. You seem to think you have all the answers with your long paragraphs. They say ignorance is bliss, I'm just not ignorant on the topic. I guess my sighs are though - right? How's that bliss been treating you? You can go into long diatribes on whatever you like. Please just make sure you know what you're talking about or can back up your reasoning. And just so you know...I'm not a liberal. Nothing against them... it's just not me. I don't declare myself superior to anyone by any means. I just like to read and garner information on various topics.
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Cigarettes do not do what Marijuana does. There is a reason why marijuana is illegal and it's not because your goverment are big meanies or wet blankets or squares.
For more information on the negative effects of Marjuana and other drugs I suggest you visit http://www.drugabuse.gov/
"The liberties and resulting economic prosperity that YOU take for granted were granted by those "dead guys"
<sigh> You have issues dude... You should talk to someone about that.
If burning a plant is illegal, the cancer sticks the manmade cancer sticks should be also.
What's with the <sigh> is that the way the illuminati liberals identify themselves and declare themselves to be superior to the rest of us?
Manmade cancer sticks? What's that ? You mean Tobacco? Is that somehow more man made than marijuana? I mean you don't really think the majority of weed grown in this country isn't heavily cultivated do you? I mean you understand that marijuana is heavily cultivated, fertilized and has additives to increase it's size, potency and effect. While the processing done on marijuana currently isn't to the level of tobacco, there is nothing to indicate that this won't happen once the drugs are made legal. In fact, we should assume that this WILL happen once the the marijuana trade is legalized.
Not that I am surprised by your response, since you started it all off with an ignorant sigh.....
My post, for example. was obvious tongue and cheek but your response was some kind of <sigh>... I mean did you really think that I was advocating lynching, or did it even occur to your very serious self that my post was made in jest, before you decided to advocate my seeking "help"?
Since I have to clarify things for the <sigh> crowd, let me just say that I have no problem legalizing all drugs. But to try to turn the debate into a marijuana v/s tobacco or marijuana v/s alcohol debate makes little sense. The problem with comparing tobacco with marijuana is that there have been several studies done which indicate that if anything marijuana is more carcinogenic than normal tobacco. So you can't say legalize marijuana because its safer than tobacco, because there really isn't any evidence to support this. Pure marijuana might be safer than smoking processed cigarettes, but once marijuana is legalized there is nothing to say that it won't be heavily processed as well. There also isn't any evidence to suggest that the two habits are mutually exclusive. In fact I have personally witnessed many individuals who both smoked marijuana and tobacco. So to suggest that somehow we should legalize marijuana because it's safer than tobacco makes no sense. There is no indication that legalizing marijuana will result in reduced alcohol or tobacco consumption.
What I would argue, and this is a much better argument, is that the cost of enforcing drug laws are simply too high, both in terms of monetary cost and the infringement on our civil liberties. This is especially true in the case of marijuana where the effects of the drug do not seem to be overly harmful. The drug isn't safe, but it falls into the realm of being reasonably safe. And when contrasted against the cost of enforcement and with the infringement on civil liberties that the drug war has resulted in, then we should legalize marijuana both to save us money, and to save our freedom.
Even enforcement of other drug laws, such as, cocaine, is extremely high, with little or no value to society (since the drugs are still available and prohibition has only lead to crime and violence). Yet we continue to spend billions enforcing these drug laws, and we continue to increase the power of the police to invade our privacy so that they can enforce laws which don't seem to have any real effect.
Of course I also believe that guns should be legal, but taking your cue, rather than go into a long diatribe on the subject, I will simply close with a highly intellectual <sigh> to support my position.
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<sigh> You have issues dude... You should talk to someone about that.
If burning a plant is illegal, the cancer sticks the manmade cancer sticks should be also.
What's with the <sigh> is that the way the illuminati liberals identify themselves and declare themselves to be superior to the rest of us?
Manmade cancer sticks? What's that ? You mean Tobacco? Is that somehow more man made than marijuana? I mean you don't really think the majority of weed grown in this country isn't heavily cultivated do you? I mean you understand that marijuana is heavily cultivated, fertilized and has additives to increase it's size, potency and effect. While the processing done on marijuana currently isn't to the level of tobacco, there is nothing to indicate that this won't happen once the drugs are made legal. In fact, we should assume that this WILL happen once the the marijuana trade is legalized.
Not that I am surprised by your response, since you started it all off with an ignorant sigh.....
My post, for example. was obvious tongue and cheek but your response was some kind of <sigh>... I mean did you really think that I was advocating lynching, or did it even occur to your very serious self that my post was made in jest, before you decided to advocate my seeking "help"?
Since I have to clarify things for the <sigh> crowd, let me just say that I have no problem legalizing all drugs. But to try to turn the debate into a marijuana v/s tobacco or marijuana v/s alcohol debate makes little sense. The problem with comparing tobacco with marijuana is that there have been several studies done which indicate that if anything marijuana is more carcinogenic than normal tobacco. So you can't say legalize marijuana because its safer than tobacco, because there really isn't any evidence to support this. Pure marijuana might be safer than smoking processed cigarettes, but once marijuana is legalized there is nothing to say that it won't be heavily processed as well. There also isn't any evidence to suggest that the two habits are mutually exclusive. In fact I have personally witnessed many individuals who both smoked marijuana and tobacco. So to suggest that somehow we should legalize marijuana because it's safer than tobacco makes no sense. There is no indication that legalizing marijuana will result in reduced alcohol or tobacco consumption.
What I would argue, and this is a much better argument, is that the cost of enforcing drug laws are simply too high, both in terms of monetary cost and the infringement on our civil liberties. This is especially true in the case of marijuana where the effects of the drug do not seem to be overly harmful. The drug isn't safe, but it falls into the realm of being reasonably safe. And when contrasted against the cost of enforcement and with the infringement on civil liberties that the drug war has resulted in, then we should legalize marijuana both to save us money, and to save our freedom.
Even enforcement of other drug laws, such as, cocaine, is extremely high, with little or no value to society (since the drugs are still available and prohibition has only lead to crime and violence). Yet we continue to spend billions enforcing these drug laws, and we continue to increase the power of the police to invade our privacy so that they can enforce laws which don't seem to have any real effect.
Of course I also believe that guns should be legal, but taking your cue, rather than go into a long diatribe on the subject, I will simply close with a highly intellectual <sigh> to support my position.
The <sigh> was in response to your lynching statement. Don't get upset by it. I shook my head also if it makes you feel any better. Tongue and cheek or not, I obviously wasn't the only person "moved" by your comment or attempt at a lame joke. No worries. I'll note your sarcasm for later entries.
To get this out of the way early, guns don't kill people. People kill people.. sometimes with guns, other times with knives or whatever. Last time I checked, all guns were not illegal buddy... especially in Florida. You just need a permit to own a gun - legally. Oh yeah - [Insert "intellectual <sigh>]. haha... geez. Relax guy. It's not that serious. But that should be a nice compliment to your gun legalization beliefs.
You're correct in your notion that weed may be heavily processed after legalization, but we won't know that unless that happens - correct? I didn't say cigarettes were safer than weed, but did I have to say it? I'm saying... if you continuously smoke boxes of cigarettes, there's a good chance you'll wind up with cancer and die. If you smoke an overabundance of weed.. you'll get what... extra tired... the munchies... laugh a lot?? To overdose on marijuana a person would have to consume around 1,500 hundred pounds in just 15 minutes. The effects of marijuana are can include: dry mouth, hunger, red eyes, euphoria, relaxation, reduced blood pressure, sleepiness, distorted perception of time and space and disruption in the ability to pay attention. Know the facts first then please enlighten me. But wait... there's more!
You're correct in saying that the cost of enforcing drug laws are too high. But I can't agree with you saying you have no problems legalizing ALL drugs. That's your belief.. that's fine. You like it I love it. I just don't agree with it. And to say that debating between marijuana, tobacco and alcohol makes little sense lets me know that you may want to take yourself down from your pedestal a couple of levels. Example: marijuana has never killed anyone, yet it is often viewed as a dangerous and addictive drug. Tobacco and alcohol on the other hand killed over 500,000 people in the year 2000. Despite these high death tolls, tobacco and alcohol remain legal, with marijuana arrests rising every year. Marijuana is not as addictive as other legal drugs such as caffeine, alcohol or tobacco. About 70 billiona dollars is spent every year on the war on drugs. If marijuana was legalized the government could tax it just like alcohol and cigarettes. $7.7 billion dollars was collected from the tobacco excise tax in the 2006 fiscal year. The legalization of marijuana would boost the economy and produce tax revenue for important world issues. The war on drugs has put millions of people in jail.
A survey conducted by the Nation Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse found that 34 percent of teens said the marijuana is easier to attain than alcohol or tobacco. More than one-third of the teens said they could get marijuana within a few hours. Teens have an easier time buying illegal substances because they are not regulated. If we can regulate who can buy, what they’re buying and how much their buying, we would have a much better chance at keeping drugs out of the hands of our youth, we could gain revenue from the drugs and we could reduce violent crime related to drugs.
But you're not ready for that yet. You seem to think you have all the answers with your long paragraphs. They say ignorance is bliss, I'm just not ignorant on the topic. I guess my sighs are though - right? How's that bliss been treating you? You can go into long diatribes on whatever you like. Please just make sure you know what you're talking about or can back up your reasoning. And just so you know...I'm not a liberal. Nothing against them... it's just not me. I don't declare myself superior to anyone by any means. I just like to read and garner information on various topics.
Have a nice day. This school session is closed.
<sigh> You have issues dude... You should talk to someone about that.
If burning a plant is illegal, the cancer sticks the manmade cancer sticks should be also.
Well said Mr. Massively, well said indeed.
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Thanks. My point was that if marijuana is illegal, then cigarettes should be also.