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  • MaDSaMMaDSaM Member Posts: 627

    To soothe all your fears with one sentence:

    "No Problem, you can learn everything and there will be "upgrades" every few levels."

    Juts open your skill tree (b) and look for yourself. At its right side it shows all actions and stanzas you can learn.

    There´ll be enough Skill Points to learn everything over time.

    CU

    SaM

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    Ryzom, we dare to be different.
    Do you dare to adapt?
  • catfudcatfud Member Posts: 135

    Reading all these posts makes me miss this game again. I came back for the launch of the servers but lost interest just before billing. I've continued to follow the game on here and the official forums... and well... now I've got the ryzom bug again and I'm itching to play! Unfortunately my current RL situation leaves me no time for this :(

     

    Soon  Atys... soon I will return, the first thing I want to do is to walk out of Pyr's firey gates and get mauled by gingos. Aaahhh feels like home.

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    MMO: Ryzom - RF Online
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    Ryzom FREE Trial: PLAY NOW!!! - The must play MMO!
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  • XHecatombeXXHecatombeX Member Posts: 8

    I aggree, this game is a really precious gem. I'm glad I've found it recently.

  • BeermanglerBeermangler Member UncommonPosts: 402

     I was going to create an "Is this game for me" topic where I would sum up my gaming style and preferences, but after reading through this thread I have hastily logged into my home PC and started downloading the trial. 

    I am so fed up with WoW-like MMOs and I really feel the need for an offtrack MMO. I have tried almost every one out there, from spacey EVE to westerny Fallen Earth and nothing 'clicked'. 

     

    Download / install complete, now the waiting game... 2 hours of work left... :[

    Better to be crazy, provided you know what sane is...

  • MaDSaMMaDSaM Member Posts: 627

    Originally posted by Beermangler

    I was going to create an "Is this game for me" topic where I would sum up my gaming style and preferences, but after reading through this thread I have hastily logged into my home PC and started downloading the trial.

    I am so fed up with WoW-like MMOs and I really feel the need for an offtrack MMO. I have tried almost every one out there, from spacey EVE to westerny Fallen Earth and nothing 'clicked'.

     

    Download / install complete, now the waiting game... 2 hours of work left... :[

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    Well, enjoy yourself then and welcome to Atys :)

     

    CU

    SaM

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    Ryzom, we dare to be different.
    Do you dare to adapt?
  • XHecatombeXXHecatombeX Member Posts: 8

    Welcome to Atys and if you need any help just ask anyone, they will be happy to help you.

  • neoterrarneoterrar Member Posts: 512

    I love playing the game back in the day. The people were/are great and the little touches are really nice. The complex harvest and crafting system should be a mainstay of all MMOs.

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    That being said...I joined a guild and I hated the game from then on out. People that had been around awhile would allow us lower players to get xp off them by healing while they killed high level creatures. Took all the fun out of the game and turned me into a dull healbot.

    Now you say, you didn't have to join a guild. I disagree. It was just barren on the mainland. I would only see one or two people in hours of playing.

    Also, is this the third company that has tried running it?

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    I think everyone should try/play Ryzom. I'm not sure if they modified it so that you could leave the island or not. I find the trial area is very misleading due to the high population, prevalence of quests, etc.

  • MaDSaMMaDSaM Member Posts: 627
    Originally posted by neoterrar


    That being said...I joined a guild and I hated the game from then on out. People that had been around awhile would allow us lower players to get xp off them by healing while they killed high level creatures. Took all the fun out of the game and turned me into a dull healbot.
    Yeah, I agree that this isn´t what a game should be about. But you´re blaming a the game for peoples behavior. They shouldn´t have turned you into a "healbot" in the first place. There are plenty of ways to play with lower level players. So, sorry to say so, but it was the Guild you joined that literally abused you, but not the game that was "bad".
    Now you say, you didn't have to join a guild. I disagree. It was just barren on the mainland. I would only see one or two people in hours of playing.
    Ok, the population at the moment is small, but if people leave "because of small population" it´ll never grow to a decent size.
    Also, is this the third company that has tried running it?
    Yes and they´re doing a far better job than all before.
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    I think everyone should try/play Ryzom. I'm not sure if they modified it so that you could leave the island or not. I find the trial area is very misleading due to the high population, prevalence of quests, etc.
    Another really strange point. People stay on the trial island because its "unlimited" and you can stay there forever, if you want and be "the big fish in the pond" once you´ve made level 50 or so. I think those people that do this are pretty lame. Lording it over the Newbes on a trial island... wow... "how cool." -.-


    The "Quests" you refer to are a tutorial, nothing more. The last patch brought more Missions for Newcomers to the Mainlands and more are to follow. We just hope that it´ll not be turned into another cookie-cutter Quest-Grind Game, but so far the new people behind it seem to understand this plea and are doing a great job in preventing this.
     

     

    CU

    SaM

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    Ryzom, we dare to be different.
    Do you dare to adapt?
  • majinantmajinant Member UncommonPosts: 418

    Man, I have never looked into this game before. Just spend a few mins on it's website and I am now downloading. Looks great. lets hope I have fun eh :)



  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658
    Originally posted by neoterrar


    I love playing the game back in the day. The people were/are great and the little touches are really nice. The complex harvest and crafting system should be a mainstay of all MMOs.
    ---
    That being said...I joined a guild and I hated the game from then on out. People that had been around awhile would allow us lower players to get xp off them by healing while they killed high level creatures. Took all the fun out of the game and turned me into a dull healbot.
    Now you say, you didn't have to join a guild. I disagree. It was just barren on the mainland. I would only see one or two people in hours of playing.
    Also, is this the third company that has tried running it?
    ---
    I think everyone should try/play Ryzom. I'm not sure if they modified it so that you could leave the island or not. I find the trial area is very misleading due to the high population, prevalence of quests, etc.

    Everyone has a different experience.

    When I first joined a guild I was given dapper to buy a apartment, three packers and a mount with dapper to spare I was outfitted with Heavy armor and a sword every 50 levels and my guildies even decided to work on skills in my range so we could all hunt together.

    One of my guildies had low healing magic and another had low one handed melee so we had a good time for a few weeks.

    I think You just got into a guild that wanted to rush you through the skill levels as fast as possible. I would have told them I would rather kill with equal level players and I'm sure they would have raised a lower skill with you.

    When My guildies weren't online I would just jump into both Uni and regional chat and ask for players with similar level to myself and easily get a partner or two and go hunting.

    If I had to go solo I had no issue with solo hunting or digging on those rare occasions.

     

    PLaying: EvE, Ryzom

    Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum

  • DubhlaithDubhlaith Member Posts: 1,012


    Originally posted by Samira24
    What a gem of a game! Why has nobody told me before how good Ryzom is? Where was this game when i bored myself to death in linear titles like LOTRO, AoC and WAR?
    Playing it for a week now but i havent had such fun in an MMO for years! The world is a world, not a theme park, the harvesting is outstanding, the crafting is nice and complex. This game makes so many things slightly different that a completely new feeling and atmosphere is created.
    Just sad that the graphics are outdated. Still i dont care much. It is more intresting than Vanguard and that stanza thing is just awesome once you got behind it some. A true gem between all the mainstream MMO's and i hope word spreads and more people like myself dig this gem out. It has its flaws (the one or other crash and weird combat behaviour) but so far none of this breaks it for me. The quests on the starting island are fun and people have been friendly and helpful all over.
    looking forward to see some of u in Ryzom!
     
    Sam.


    I hate it when I see this. No offence to you, Sam, personally, but this is why this game went bankrupt once already. Most average people have no idea this game even exists, let alone how fantastic it is. That is part of the reason that the community is so fantastic, but you need more people to make more money. I hope the new management, now that things are pretty well tamped back into place, takes a page out of the marketing book and drops some money on some ads. Even a banner here would probably help.

    "Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true — you know it, and they know it." —Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007

    WTF? No subscription fee?

  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658
    Originally posted by Dubhlaith


     

    Originally posted by Samira24

    What a gem of a game! Why has nobody told me before how good Ryzom is? Where was this game when i bored myself to death in linear titles like LOTRO, AoC and WAR?

    Playing it for a week now but i havent had such fun in an MMO for years! The world is a world, not a theme park, the harvesting is outstanding, the crafting is nice and complex. This game makes so many things slightly different that a completely new feeling and atmosphere is created.

    Just sad that the graphics are outdated. Still i dont care much. It is more intresting than Vanguard and that stanza thing is just awesome once you got behind it some. A true gem between all the mainstream MMO's and i hope word spreads and more people like myself dig this gem out. It has its flaws (the one or other crash and weird combat behaviour) but so far none of this breaks it for me. The quests on the starting island are fun and people have been friendly and helpful all over.

    looking forward to see some of u in Ryzom!

     

    Sam.

     



    I hate it when I see this. No offence to you, Sam, personally, but this is why this game went bankrupt once already. Most average people have no idea this game even exists, let alone how fantastic it is. That is part of the reason that the community is so fantastic, but you need more people to make more money. I hope the new management, now that things are pretty well tamped back into place, takes a page out of the marketing book and drops some money on some ads. Even a banner here would probably help.

    I agree just one Banner AD across a couple MMO forum sites would really increase the population.

    Virtually noone outside of sandbox fans know this game is even still running, it's a shame really.

    PLaying: EvE, Ryzom

    Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum

  • DubhlaithDubhlaith Member Posts: 1,012


    Originally posted by metalhead980
    Originally posted by Dubhlaith  

    Originally posted by Samira24
    What a gem of a game! Why has nobody told me before how good Ryzom is? Where was this game when i bored myself to death in linear titles like LOTRO, AoC and WAR?
    Playing it for a week now but i havent had such fun in an MMO for years! The world is a world, not a theme park, the harvesting is outstanding, the crafting is nice and complex. This game makes so many things slightly different that a completely new feeling and atmosphere is created.
    Just sad that the graphics are outdated. Still i dont care much. It is more intresting than Vanguard and that stanza thing is just awesome once you got behind it some. A true gem between all the mainstream MMO's and i hope word spreads and more people like myself dig this gem out. It has its flaws (the one or other crash and weird combat behaviour) but so far none of this breaks it for me. The quests on the starting island are fun and people have been friendly and helpful all over.
    looking forward to see some of u in Ryzom!
     
    Sam.
     

    I hate it when I see this. No offence to you, Sam, personally, but this is why this game went bankrupt once already. Most average people have no idea this game even exists, let alone how fantastic it is. That is part of the reason that the community is so fantastic, but you need more people to make more money. I hope the new management, now that things are pretty well tamped back into place, takes a page out of the marketing book and drops some money on some ads. Even a banner here would probably help.



    I agree just one Banner AD across a couple MMO forum sites would really increase the population.
    Virtually noone outside of sandbox fans know this game is even still running, it's a shame really.


    MetalHead, I have never written a signature, but I feel strongly about this; would you be annoyed if I created a signature strikingly similar to yours?

    "Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true — you know it, and they know it." —Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007

    WTF? No subscription fee?

  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658
    Originally posted by Dubhlaith


     

    Originally posted by metalhead980


    Originally posted by Dubhlaith
     
     





    Originally posted by Samira24

    What a gem of a game! Why has nobody told me before how good Ryzom is? Where was this game when i bored myself to death in linear titles like LOTRO, AoC and WAR?

    Playing it for a week now but i havent had such fun in an MMO for years! The world is a world, not a theme park, the harvesting is outstanding, the crafting is nice and complex. This game makes so many things slightly different that a completely new feeling and atmosphere is created.

    Just sad that the graphics are outdated. Still i dont care much. It is more intresting than Vanguard and that stanza thing is just awesome once you got behind it some. A true gem between all the mainstream MMO's and i hope word spreads and more people like myself dig this gem out. It has its flaws (the one or other crash and weird combat behaviour) but so far none of this breaks it for me. The quests on the starting island are fun and people have been friendly and helpful all over.

    looking forward to see some of u in Ryzom!

     

    Sam.




     

     

    I hate it when I see this. No offence to you, Sam, personally, but this is why this game went bankrupt once already. Most average people have no idea this game even exists, let alone how fantastic it is. That is part of the reason that the community is so fantastic, but you need more people to make more money. I hope the new management, now that things are pretty well tamped back into place, takes a page out of the marketing book and drops some money on some ads. Even a banner here would probably help.





    I agree just one Banner AD across a couple MMO forum sites would really increase the population.

    Virtually noone outside of sandbox fans know this game is even still running, it's a shame really.

     



    MetalHead, I have never written a signature, but I feel strongly about this; would you be annoyed if I created a signature strikingly similar to yours?

    Go for it buddy

    PLaying: EvE, Ryzom

    Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum

  • NizurNizur Member CommonPosts: 1,417

    It would be nice if Ryzom advertised more.

    It would also be nice if they updated their Web site. It's looking really dated. It's shallow, but people judge all kinds of things by their "cover" whether it's books, games or even people. If the Ryzom Web site looks like it's from the mid-90s, then people aren't going to be confident about the quality of the game.

    Current: None
    Played: WoW, CoX, SWG, LotRO, EVE, AoC, VG, CO, Ryzom, DF, WAR
    Tried: Lineage2, Dofus, EQ2, CoS, FE, UO, Wurm, Wakfu
    Future: The Repopulation, ArcheAge, Black Desert, EQN

  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658
    Originally posted by Nizur


    It would be nice if Ryzom advertised more.
    It would also be nice if they updated their Web site. It's looking really dated. It's shallow, but people judge all kinds of things by their "cover" whether it's books, games or even people. If the Ryzom Web site looks like it's from the mid-90s, then people aren't going to be confident about the quality of the game.

     

    Honestly when I first saw the Website back in august '08 I thought the game looked like a Crappy f2p mmo.

    Only thing that makes you believe Ryzom is still running are the patch notes posting on the first page.

    Speaking of patches any news on the next one?

    PLaying: EvE, Ryzom

    Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum

  • DubhlaithDubhlaith Member Posts: 1,012


    Originally posted by metalhead980
    Originally posted by Nizur It would be nice if Ryzom advertised more.
    It would also be nice if they updated their Web site. It's looking really dated. It's shallow, but people judge all kinds of things by their "cover" whether it's books, games or even people. If the Ryzom Web site looks like it's from the mid-90s, then people aren't going to be confident about the quality of the game.
     
    Honestly when I first saw the Website back in august '08 I thought the game looked like a Crappy f2p mmo.

    Only thing that makes you believe Ryzom is still running are the patch notes posting on the first page.

    Speaking of patches any news on the next one?



    Firstly, thank you.


    I think the problem here is that most of the companies that create games such as this are developed by people that really love gaming, but do not have the financial backing of the larger publishers because they are either unknown or the game concept is untested. We need to remember the moneybags do not understand games. So, even when they create a game like Ryzom, they simply do not have the capital to market or the business experience to know how to use what marketing they have effectively.

    I think the only true "sandbox" game that has been a real success is EVE.

    And then, even if people do play the game, many of them do not like it for various reasons, most of which have to do with polish, which is a direct result of lack of money. For example, people complain about Darkfall (which, I will grant that there are many "haters" out there who want only to tarnish the name) because of bugs and lower quality graphics, but they did start the project years ago, on their own, with very little money. They did what they could. But people cannot look past the problems the game does have to see a gem for serious pvpers.

    The best thing we can do is tell people we know about games like this that we hear about. Word of mouth is always underrated, and it is the best thing we can do for them.

    "Gamers will no longer buy the argument that every MMO requires a subscription fee to offset server and bandwidth costs. It's not true — you know it, and they know it." —Jeff Strain, co-founder of ArenaNet, 2007

    WTF? No subscription fee?

  • Superman0XSuperman0X Member RarePosts: 2,292

    This is an industry wide issue. People do not understand that Game Development and Production are very different jobs, that require totally different skills, and tasks.

    Developers think that they are the best person to produce the game, because they created it, and know it best. This turns out to not be true most of the time, and as such causes the game to go under (or just do poorly). Getting  a good publisher can make all the difference.

  • PiquedramPiquedram Member Posts: 127
    Originally posted by metalhead980

    Speaking of patches any news on the next one?

     

    http://blog.ryzom.com/

    Has a few teasers, but i doubt that's all they're up to, u don't need 2 months (even on your own) to change an interface...

    But that's all we hear so far, hehe. I'm just glad we're getting a blog.

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  • MaDSaMMaDSaM Member Posts: 627

    So, what should a "modern" Website look like?

    I´m just asking, maybe someone "important" reads it.

    Should it be more "flashy"? in both senses of the word ;)

    Or less?

    You can find all things needed to know on the game on it, so what else should there be?

    Can you give me an example of an MMOs site that does it "better"?

    For, those I know aren´t very much different, despite havening more "modern" Games to back them up.

    Just for a randomly picked example: www.lotro-europe.com/ does seem to have some problems with their German.

    The nice "Bilbos Birthday" Box in the middle right,.... ouch.  Someone switched the sentences parts around.

    And frankly, I don´t see that much of a difference to ryzoms site. Only there are no LINKS to the community, or goodies, or other fun stuff.

    So, what should a "cool" Website look like and do for you?

     

    CU

    SaM

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    Ryzom, we dare to be different.
    Do you dare to adapt?
  • NizurNizur Member CommonPosts: 1,417

    Flashy for the sake of being flashy, no. The flash should be kept to a minimum. It should feel cohesive, thought out, designed. It shouldn't look like a crappy mid-90s site that was slapped together as an afterthought. Show off the game a bit more. Make it look like you at least care about making a good first impression.

    A couple examples:

    Jumpgate Evolution has a decent looking site that's not over-the-top flashy.

    Star Trek Online also has a nice theme to work with. Good use of background graphics. Everything important is there, but not cluttered.

    Current: None
    Played: WoW, CoX, SWG, LotRO, EVE, AoC, VG, CO, Ryzom, DF, WAR
    Tried: Lineage2, Dofus, EQ2, CoS, FE, UO, Wurm, Wakfu
    Future: The Repopulation, ArcheAge, Black Desert, EQN

  • hcoelhohcoelho Member UncommonPosts: 529

    Reading this thread  i just found the game i was looking for, i guess.

    The features you guys pointed are sooo amazing. Ryzom seems to have all the stuff that other mmos lacks.

    I'm downloading it now to try, i hope i enjoy this as much as some of  you do, i love imersive games one of the reasons i love LOTRO is the imersion and well built world, Ryzom seems to have it in a higher lvl !!!

    I hope this game sucks me in hehe

    I've been jumping from mmo to mmo, kinda tired of it....  (i play LOTRO but in a slow paece, very casually)

     

    Thanks for all the point of views you guys wrote here , if people in-game are that helpful and friendly i guess i will enjoy it even more.

  • AnzieAnzie Member Posts: 468

    Is there a trial for it?

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    Originally posted by Spathotan
    The simplest way to put this, is like this. Buying a used/refurbished 360 is on the same plane as sharing a condom in a gangbang with strangers.
  • metalhead980metalhead980 Member Posts: 2,658
    Originally posted by Anzie


    Is there a trial for it?

     

    Yeah, it has a 21 day trial.

    PLaying: EvE, Ryzom

    Waiting For: Earthrise, Perpetuum

  • CodenakCodenak Member UncommonPosts: 418

    Yes, theres a three week unlimited free trial, however, the newbie area of Silan isnt really reflective of the game as a whole, there are a lot of quests there to introduce you t your ryzom abilities.

    Edit: Beaten :D

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