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So many trolls... but why?
I got this in a PM on the forums (never posted anything, they must have just sent it to everyone they saw logged in)
"Darkfall is a steaming pile of shit in almost every single area possible. It has the production quality of a game like Dark and Light....
Not to mention Aventurine has the business sense and common sense of a bunch of monkies.
The game is dying and losing subs so fast that in total desperation they're releasing this lame little patch (completely untested) and calling it an "expansion" to try and save the sinking ship.... but it won't work.
Anyone who actually pays $50 and $15 a month for this ALPHA that will be dead and cancelled before the end of the year is a total jackass."
These type of people were bombarding the servers yesterday during the launch of the free expansion. The forums were clogged with these idiots. Why would someone do this? What is the motivation? Is he just some former vaportroll moron who can't handle the fact that Darkfall launched and is doing alright for itself? What?
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That is a possibility. It is also a possibility that you are just a fan boy. Hard to tell from here.
Motivation is that the game is a piece of crap SW, still in alpha stage of development and with a company behind it that repeteadly lie and deceive people.
I paid 50$ for it too and that pisses me of!
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That is a possibility. It is also a possibility that you are just a fan boy. Hard to tell from here.
Um, first off, nothing I said here would indicate such, second off, that would have absolutely no effect on the troll attacks that occured last night.
Nice fail, fail troll.
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By what standard do you judge Darkfall as 'doing alright for itself'?
I think we found our troll that got himself banned
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My solution.... get off thier bridge
There are times when one must ask themselves is it my passion that truly frightens you? Or your own?
I often ask questions for mainly as way to make sure I personally understand all that is involved. I do it for the opposite reason of "rude" I do it to consider the fact that I might not in fact know all the details.
I got a monitor warning yesterday for asking a question. Specifically getting clarification on what publishers do.
To answer your question, I think the trolls go around slamming everyone as much as they can until they are the only ones left.
They should stop and think about what they are trying to do becuase they might actually succeed and then they would have nothing left to troll
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
That is a possibility. It is also a possibility that you are just a fan boy. Hard to tell from here.
Um, first off, nothing I said here would indicate such, second off, that would have absolutely no effect on the troll attacks that occured last night.
Nice fail, fail troll.
What? I am a troll for pointing out that you COULD be a Fan boy. LOL. ok.
They've mostly already succeeded, I don't know many people at all that still play Darkfall that read general discussion anymore.
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yes it's a big conspiracy man, everyone is involved, the trolls of course for blindly hating and sending you rude PMs because your are so special, other big companies who don't want df to succeed, the mods here because they let obvious trolls like me post freely, the mainstream carebear gaming sites who either don't review df or write blasphemous reviews after not even playing this jewel of a game and last but not least the CIA for letting this all happen!
nice flamebait tho, where did you learn the strategic move with the set up PM? from tasos?
jedi mind - heavenly divine, steadily shine in '99!
Trolls are where-ever you choose to see them and however you choose to define them.
If you go around branding anyone that disagrees with you as a troll then they will begin to act like trolls. It is my opinion that the majority of the ant-DF hysteria arose out of the 'your game sux, DF > your game. DF iz not4j00' trolling that took place on many of the other game forums...WoW, WAR, AoC etc, all those boards were hit.
That may not be the fault of the current crop of supporters but its kind of inevitable when DF disappointed so many people on release...there was always going to be a backlash.
Perhaps if you all exhibited a bit of restraint in your responses rather than the usual finger-pointing reactionism, the real trolls would fade away...they do, after all, thrive on drama and all you're doing is feeding them.
It really doesnt matter if its a conspiracy or not, the effect is the same and if all the fans leave then how fun will that be?
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
I don't think the blame for that can be laid entirely at the door of the forum trolls. The DF community is rife with asshattery, combine that with the much publicised exploiting, hacking and noobie-ganking and that is at least as much to blame, probably even more so.
It really doesnt matter if its a conspiracy or not, the effect is the same and if all the fans leave then how fun will that be?
ok i hate caps, but somehow you are so difficult to reach.
WHEN WILL YOU BE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE IRONY ? go look in wikipedia for it, it will help you.
this is a flamebait thread, he posted one similar to this before and people tried to argue with him reasonably (which is pointless imo) and it failed. so what do you expect, you even take what i posted for real. come on, man. *roll eyes*
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Most trolls,( I call them aholes) are just disturbed boys who got killed once too many times in dark fall, or they whine and complain, is DFO feature complete no? are they working hard on it? yes, are you a true retard if you think a indie company designing a engine and a game and their first by themselves will have a perfect launch or can afford perfect testing? yes.
These are the main questions, most people on the forums back in the day knew this, and when sites like mmorpg and other review mmorpg sites got involved they were unaware of the background of the game and the devs.
So yes I am sure they are upset, but this is why dfo did not offiicially launch IMO, but they are trying too, this expansion helped, but it still needs balance, and NA-1 by the time new characters start to get up high characters and feel the unchanged problems(if lots more exist(am at work so didnt try the expansion)) or when transfers from EU to NA come, then yes I am sure this game will be in launch state.
I mean if you didnt know signus, this site is for critics, and they get off on hating on a game like fat boys with cake.
Are you seriously saying that I mislabelled someone who "disagreed with me" as a troll? When all he did was, make an account, spam porn and virus links everywhere, while mindlessly bashing the game and sending PMs to anyone who didn't read his threads? That's just someone who disagrees with me?
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By the way i do think sean is a fanboy, I love darkfall but I KNOW there is a problem with sheep leaving it, and I know the lack of skill cap and the heavy grind caters to the wrong type of community, and I am not quite sure how good PVE has changed, but for the most part seems like most easy-kinda hard mobs got fixed and some hard ones.
They are trying to add more reasons to go out in the open, I heard and been confirmed by a few ppl in game, SKILL goes UP Faster!!! when PVE'ing this alone was worth the wait for the expansion.
Now if it does help a lot like they said,(skilling up off of pve) all they need is a set active skill hard cap that you are allow to reset every day by talking to a NPC or something.
I dont quest but the title quests sounds cool and a challenge, and gives you benefits of not being red,
Maybe they are adding more racial war scenarios.
I think they need to add lots more and polish, but the progress as I said before is continueing to keep me playing and is giving me hope that this game is going to survive for a logn time.
MO is my back up plan, but that game looks like a week old game if you call dfo a alpha game.
1. Why should big companies spend a single thought on this niche game with its microscopic small (niche) player base?
I think he was joking when he said that, but I'm going to comment on your first thing.
Why indeed? They did though.
Funcom launched a viral compaign to discredit Darkfall back in 2006-7, posting on every blog and forum that it was vaporware. They tried to do it on the Darkfall forums, but the IP got tracked to Funcom HQ and they had to make a public apology. But that was basically the first step that attacted so many vaportrolls that still harry the game today.
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1. Why should big companies spend a single thought on this niche game with its microscopic small (niche) player base?
2. With all due respect i think the CIA has other things to do *laughs*
3. What du you smoke?
mate, please read my reply to sean.
jedi mind - heavenly divine, steadily shine in '99!
1. Why should big companies spend a single thought on this niche game with its microscopic small (niche) player base?
I think he was joking when he said that, but I'm going to comment on your first thing.
Why indeed? They did though.
Funcom launched a viral compaign to discredit Darkfall back in 2006-7, posting on every blog and forum that it was vaporware. They tried to do it on the Darkfall forums, but the IP got tracked to Funcom HQ and they had to make a public apology. But that was basically the first step that attacted so many vaportrolls that still harry the game today.
Signus can you unban me from dfo forums, it said i was posting negative feedback always, I am a true supporter of dfo, but am no fanboy, I was just posting what is wrong and what will happen if it did not get changed(a lot of it did get changed already in the patch)
Can you unban me, Forum nickname is Izure.
Are you seriously saying that I mislabelled someone who "disagreed with me" as a troll? When all he did was, make an account, spam porn and virus links everywhere, while mindlessly bashing the game and sending PMs to anyone who didn't read his threads? That's just someone who disagrees with me?
No, but I am saying that you pretty much created the environment yourself.
I'm saying that the general hysterical tone of the majority of the posts I've seen you make on here are akin to painting a target on your head. You throw the word troll around too much and they will come, and guess what...they came to you. Can't imagine why...oh wait, yes I can. Learn to froth less, they can smell it from miles away.
You asked why there were so many trolls, I suggested a hypothesis.
1. Why should big companies spend a single thought on this niche game with its microscopic small (niche) player base?
I think he was joking when he said that, but I'm going to comment on your first thing.
Why indeed? They did though.
Funcom launched a viral compaign to discredit Darkfall back in 2006-7, posting on every blog and forum that it was vaporware. They tried to do it on the Darkfall forums, but the IP got tracked to Funcom HQ and they had to make a public apology. But that was basically the first step that attacted so many vaportrolls that still harry the game today.
Signus can you unban me from dfo forums, it said i was posting negative feedback always, I am a true supporter of dfo, but am no fanboy, I was just posting what is wrong and what will happen if it did not get changed(a lot of it did get changed already in the patch)
Can you unban me, Forum nickname is Izure.
I'm not a moderator, and I doubt you got banned for no reason.
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Are you seriously saying that I mislabelled someone who "disagreed with me" as a troll? When all he did was, make an account, spam porn and virus links everywhere, while mindlessly bashing the game and sending PMs to anyone who didn't read his threads? That's just someone who disagrees with me?
No, but I am saying that you pretty much created the environment yourself.
I'm saying that the general hysterical tone of the majority of the posts I've seen you make on here are akin to painting a target on your head. You throw the word troll around too much and they will come, and guess what...they came to you. Can't imagine why...oh wait, yes I can. Learn to froth less, they can smell it from miles away.
You asked why there were so many trolls, I suggested a hypothesis.
I did nothing to attract the trolls to this game, they've always been here. The PM I got was completely random, I'm sure many others got it as well. I don't post there any more.
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1. Why should big companies spend a single thought on this niche game with its microscopic small (niche) player base?
I think he was joking when he said that, but I'm going to comment on your first thing.
Why indeed? They did though.
Funcom launched a viral compaign to discredit Darkfall back in 2006-7, posting on every blog and forum that it was vaporware. They tried to do it on the Darkfall forums, but the IP got tracked to Funcom HQ and they had to make a public apology. But that was basically the first step that attacted so many vaportrolls that still harry the game today.
Signus can you unban me from dfo forums, it said i was posting negative feedback always, I am a true supporter of dfo, but am no fanboy, I was just posting what is wrong and what will happen if it did not get changed(a lot of it did get changed already in the patch)
Can you unban me, Forum nickname is Izure.
Yikes!
They banned you too from the official forums? I remember reading your posts over there Izure... always good for some decent discussion.
The mods there are a bit ban-happy though. Heh.
I will be interesting in watching how the subs-only forums go for them. I was a subscriber for SWG when they switched. I didn't really see any improvement. If anything all it did was stop those that were truly interested in the game from posting questions.
Those that have quit playing but still have time left will continue to post.
Those that buy the game, but don't like it will continue to post.
Anyway... I haven't seen that sub-only forums really accomplish what the Devs hope that they accomplish. Who knows perhaps Aventurine will be able to make it work.