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Turns out the large Hadran colider really is a black hole!

HYPERI0NHYPERI0N Member Posts: 3,515

Anyone remember the stories that went around about the Large hadron colider in Europe that everyone feared would create a black hole and destroy the world?

 

Turns out they were right...sorta.

Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

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  • kazmokazmo Member Posts: 715

    Read about this in the paper this morning. Honestly, I say let 'em keep at it. This is probably one of the only things right now we can "waste money" on..



    The research and advances in physics that can be gleaned from that monstrosity cannot be placed into monetary terms. Who knows what they will find?

     

  • HYPERI0NHYPERI0N Member Posts: 3,515

    Very true but i still cant help wincing each time i look at the bill so far.

     

    Netherless im sure this will bring on some interesting advances in the future when they get it working [Touch wood].

    Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

  • kazmokazmo Member Posts: 715

    Well, it's better than a multi-million dollar study on the mating rituals of squirrels or the study of homosexuality in other rodents. That's all I've got to say.

  • frodusfrodus Member Posts: 2,396
    Originally posted by HYPERI0N


    Very true but i still cant help wincing each time i look at the bill so far.
     
    Netherless im sure this will bring on some interesting advances in the future when they get it working [Touch wood].



     

    Kinda late to turn around and stop.its up and running might as well keep trying.better to keep the mad scientist working on this than bombs...Could be some big findings later on.

    Trade in material assumptions for spiritual facts and make permanent progress.

  • HYPERI0NHYPERI0N Member Posts: 3,515

    Yea im agreeing here that really after all thats been spent on this stopping now is just stupid really.

    Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

  • kazmokazmo Member Posts: 715
    Originally posted by frodus

    Originally posted by HYPERI0N


    Very true but i still cant help wincing each time i look at the bill so far.
     
    Netherless im sure this will bring on some interesting advances in the future when they get it working [Touch wood].



     

    Kinda late to turn around and stop.its up and running might as well keep trying.better to keep the mad scientist working on this than bombs...Could be some big findings later on.

     

    Good findings, like the Black Hole Bomb.  D=

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    Black holes in their cheeses.

    Worth every Euro they spend on it.

  • FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247

    How much electricity is "7 trillion electron voltz?"

    is that different than a "volt" of electricity?

    It's all very interesting to say the least...

    BUT...

    Remember we are a type 13 planet lol. 

  • TrizicTrizic Member Posts: 76
    Originally posted by Faxxer


    How much electricity is "7 trillion electron voltz?"
    is that different than a "volt" of electricity?
    It's all very interesting to say the least...
    BUT...
    Remember we are a type 13 planet lol. 

     

    It's a unit of energy used in physics. An electron volt is the kinetic energy gained by an electron passing through a potential difference of one volt.

    One electron volt is equal to 1.60217653(14)×10−19 joules

    Grabbed that number from Wikipedia for ya lol

    So ya, 7 trillion, not that big.

    "A stupid idea to you is the memory of a lifetime for me"

  • GazenthiaGazenthia Member Posts: 1,186

    10 billion is a pittance, a pittance, for something this important. Just as with the government spending a few million to develop and produce fully operating/functional artificial limbs (which was a success BTW), I don't understand how there could possibly be complaints about the price tag.



    Its freaking nothing but a pittance. Nothing.



    And I see a comment in there suggesting that people don't believe cold fusion is possible. As far as I know, someone actually DID discover cold fusion. He wanted a Nobel Prize and 50 billion dollars for it, but they didn't want to give him a Nobel. So he died and took the secret with him to the grave. Man if it wasn't legitimate, all they had to do was revoke his award.

     

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  • FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247
    Originally posted by Gazenthia


    10 billion is a pittance, a pittance, for something this important. Just as with the government spending a few million to develop and produce fully operating/functional artificial limbs (which was a success BTW), I don't understand how there could possibly be complaints about the price tag.



    Its freaking nothing but a pittance. Nothing.



    And I see a comment in there suggesting that people don't believe cold fusion is possible. As far as I know, someone actually DID discover cold fusion. He wanted a Nobel Prize and 50 billion dollars for it, but they didn't want to give him a Nobel. So he died and took the secret with him to the grave. Man if it wasn't legitimate, all they had to do was revoke his award.

     



     

    I feel the same way about the space program...we need to be advancing our frontiers of science, astrophysics, ....cold fusion would be ....well I think we will have to have a war over that....  The oil companies will pay any price to keep that off the market....if only we could have it... I once heard you can soon buy a small (about the size of a small shed) nuclear reactor that can supposedly run for ten years with very little maintenence or refueling....but cold fusion....the holy grail of energy....and it will come at a great price i bet....cost of lives and bloodshed....human nature is just too predictable i think with something like this.

  • zipitzipit Member Posts: 487
    Originally posted by Gazenthia


    10 billion is a pittance, a pittance, for something this important. Just as with the government spending a few million to develop and produce fully operating/functional artificial limbs (which was a success BTW), I don't understand how there could possibly be complaints about the price tag.



    Its freaking nothing but a pittance. Nothing.



    And I see a comment in there suggesting that people don't believe cold fusion is possible. As far as I know, someone actually DID discover cold fusion. He wanted a Nobel Prize and 50 billion dollars for it, but they didn't want to give him a Nobel. So he died and took the secret with him to the grave. Man if it wasn't legitimate, all they had to do was revoke his award.

     



     

         I hear you, bro. They can double the amount and I'd be happy to chip in taxwise. We are on the threshold. The final step from a type 0 to type 1 civilization. When we are able to produce our own energy at will, move beyond our immediate Earth environment it will be the pinnacle of human achievement. Problem is, the passage from 0 to 1 represents the most dangerous stage in our development - kids playing with matches. I heard that 56% of top US physicians are in one way or another involved in either ITER or Large Hadron Collider projects here in Europe.

     

         PS: I'm still stunned that they're implementing magnectic shields to contain the 10 million celcius degrees in the chamber. A star on earth. The thought warps my mind and leaves me with awe.

  • HYPERI0NHYPERI0N Member Posts: 3,515
    Originally posted by Faxxer

    Originally posted by Gazenthia


    10 billion is a pittance, a pittance, for something this important. Just as with the government spending a few million to develop and produce fully operating/functional artificial limbs (which was a success BTW), I don't understand how there could possibly be complaints about the price tag.



    Its freaking nothing but a pittance. Nothing.



    And I see a comment in there suggesting that people don't believe cold fusion is possible. As far as I know, someone actually DID discover cold fusion. He wanted a Nobel Prize and 50 billion dollars for it, but they didn't want to give him a Nobel. So he died and took the secret with him to the grave. Man if it wasn't legitimate, all they had to do was revoke his award.

     



     

    I feel the same way about the space program...we need to be advancing our frontiers of science, astrophysics, ....cold fusion would be ....well I think we will have to have a war over that....  The oil companies will pay any price to keep that off the market....if only we could have it... I once heard you can soon buy a small (about the size of a small shed) nuclear reactor that can supposedly run for ten years with very little maintenence or refueling....but cold fusion....the holy grail of energy....and it will come at a great price i bet....cost of lives and bloodshed....human nature is just too predictable i think with something like this.

    Yea i heard about that too its basically the size of a Shed like you say and instead of using fuel rods it uses some form of liquid cell technology and it only needs its batteries replacing every 15 years i belive. The idea behind it was that a community like say a couple of apartment blocks could if they wanted to chip in towards the price of one and it would last 15 years and provide all there electricity for whats basically free [compared to getting electricity of the grid].

     

    It also comes from China and is currently being tested by the worldwide Nuclear agency for safety reasons before it goes comercial in the west.

    Another great example of Moore's Law. Give people access to that much space (developers and users alike) and they'll find uses for it that you can never imagine. "640K ought to be enough for anybody" - Bill Gates 1981

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