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Downfall of the gaming community.
Rigonn
Member Posts: 79
Why? Why do we have to see bash over insult over flames, every single day? Why has the gaming community just changed from admiring a game to simply bashing it and throwing it overboard without even trying it and if so... giving ridiculous reviews after only playing the first few levels?
1. I do know that a game should be fun from the very beginning. After all, it's a game and fun is the main purpose of it, but games do need somewhat of a challenge in order to make it fun.... Anything given easily is not really appreciated, you should take some time towards what you want to achieve.
2. I am also aware of the reason people could get mad because they have not yet found what they truly want.
3. People might also want a virtual world in which they can get involved and enjoy.
But what I do not understand is the over-populated community of irritating, immature, and idiotic group of people that call themselves gamers. People, come on... S T F U... yes I said it, S T F U and get a life. What's the point? I'm fascinated at how people just bash Aion for whatever reasons, some like "Graphics are horrible!" (WHAT!?), "It shows nothing new, same crap, blah blah, next!" (FFS what do you want? To connect a cable up your butt and actualy go into a game where you see Dinosaurs with lasers attached to their heads and the first skill you have is to fly and blow things up with your mind...).
Another thing, if you are going to FLAME a game PLEASE make reference to THE perfect game you have in mind, please I bet many people out there would like to know which is the ultimate best game in the world that EVERYONE should play because *you has said teh trooth and we kno yur rait!!!*.
All I have to say with this is please people, try and not be such an ass and just enjoy it. It's called gaming because you are playing a game. Actually the definition of game is = activity engaged in for diversion or amusement. So keep that in mind. Just S T F U, pick a game, and enjoy it.
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Maybe a better question would be, why have we not, as gamers, learned how to find a needle in a haystack? Why do we not use our own intellects to sift through information and not take things so personally?
Why do we not understand subjectivism and draw value based on those judgements? There are plenty of credible sources of video game information out there, and I think most gamers are aware of those sources. This is place to spew opinions, and while everybody may have one, all opinions are not all created equal.
Well since we are people as well as gamers we can say and act anyway we choose.
Second. People like myself want to know why AION is being hyped as the "next greatest game ever" when it brings nothing new to the genre, its the same guest grind, unbalanced class pvp system that we have seen a million times. Yet people like yourself are making this game out to be some great savor of the MMO genre.
That is the problem I have. This game is being hyped like crazy by gamers like you and yet it is the same shit that we have seen over and over again. So people like me bash the game because its the same quest grind game that has ruined the social side of the MMO games.
I hope that AION is a great game, I hope that people like yourself have found the game for you guys but everytime a new game comes out it is hyped and some of us in this community are gettting sick of developers release the same game with different skins over and over again.
I am sick and tired of quest grind games. Games that make you do a million pointless quests to level at a decent pace. Quest are not something that should be used so willy nilly, Quest should be epic and make a difference. This is my opinion, I have every right to my opinion and I have every right to bash a game using the system that I see as crap.
Sooner or Later
I am of the personal opinion that many of the issues with the gaming comunity stems from WoW drawing in a traditionally non-gaming crowd.
Now that they are getting bored with WoW, they are looking for the next great thing, the one that will blow them away the same way WoW did. The issue is, MMO's are evolutionary, not revolutionary. They stepped into gaming for a product that was already incorporating ideas that had been evolving for decades and took it as a single leap forward. They are expecting the next big thing to leap forward by the same amount.
Compounding this are several issues:
Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do.
Benjamin Franklin
people flame and complain cause this genre has an extremly bad track record and people dont want to get dissapointed yet another time. Then all of the sudden a game pops up with the answer to all prairs... or so it may seem, those games were AoC, WAR, for some DF and so on. With constant let-down its hard to stay positive and thus the flames.
Then theres the fanbois waiting for another game to come out that likes to discredit other games becaus that game is not their perfect little game, "its just another WoW clone" they say or something similar.
And then there are those bitter folks unhappy with their prev mmos guideline, perhaps veterans of SWG, fans of Hellgate London etc.
Not to forget the trolls who just flame for the fun of it... good times...
I agree with you but I think alot of the "older MMO" players know what they want and Developers are not listening to us because they see the money that WoW is bring in and try to copy WoWs winning system. Over and over and over again, we see the same style games being released.
How many games in the last 3 years have been successful? How many failed? (Failed meaning less subs then at release).
I know its a business and that money is like the all powerful Oz.
For myself who has been gaming in MMOs since 1999, I feel the genre has gone backwards not forward. Sure we have more MMO gamers then ever but it has come at a huge cost. That cost is good communities and smart gamers. Smart gamers are not rewarded anymore for playing smart. Everyone is equal. This is wrong on so many levels and does not teach anyone anything.
Just like in RL, little leagues in all sports now give out trophies to everyone just for playing, it does not teach kids how to lose with grace. It does not teach them that hard work = rewards, it does not teach them the value of winning or how to win with grace.
Instead we get a bunch of Instant Gratification whiners that are now the majority in the MMORPG community.
Sooner or Later
The MMO community in general really amazes me. When it takes too long to reach the end-game, the game is a "grind". When it is too easy to reach the end-game, the game lacks content. Regardless, it seems the majority of the community is obsessed with end-game.
Please, tell me, what is so damned special about the end-game?
If the end is all you care about, then why not just release MMO's where you already start at the max level? Oh, because then it's just a "gear grind".
I honestly don't know what most of you people want from a game.
You want story, but you can't be bothered to read quests.
You want to differentiate yourself from other players, but you can't be bothered to work for it.
You want a sandbox world, but you complain when it's not filled with content.
You hate doing tons of quests, but you moan when there aren't enough.
I know your generalizing and that is fine but.
I hate doing a ton of pointless quest. I love EQ because the quest are meaningful. You are not doing quests just to do a quest like the new games are.
End game is not the important factor in MMOs for me. Sure it has to have good end game content because I am a raider and I enjoy raiding but it is about the journey to max level that makes a game fun or not. Again this is my opinion. The journey though the levels/skills to reach the "end game" has to be fun, it has to few rewarding, it has to take thinking, it has to take playing smart. Timesinks just to have timesinks are not fun but every MMO is a timesink.
Sooner or Later
hm downfall of the gaming community?
i do not think so, because we should first agree what is the gaming community?
is everyone on a forum part of it or is he just a payed? fanboi/supporter/employee?
so here are my 5 cent:
its the way an open and financial interresting market works i suppose.
I thing the original post was more interested in those that seem to come up with stupid criticisms, not so much that people disagree. Poeple disgreeing on perfection happens all the time... that is why so many people have different religions (or do not have a religion), people all have their own opinion of how the world is run, or their own opinion of how an MMO world should be run.
I do however see some tendency in the post for opposition to criticism of Aion, is it that you think Aion is awesome and confused why people criticize it? or were those just random examples?
Personally I am one of those that don't see much in the game play to seperate it from other MMOs, which was your second thing, however I do not see why this is such a terrible opinion. Maybe if I said "Aion is stupid" that would be a bad statement, but I don't say that, simply because it is not stupid, so what is the problem with a viable opinion?
The "lacks content" one always interested me. So if you run out of stuff to do after two months instead of after six months, does that mean those first two months weren't fun? Heck, Call of Duty cost 40 or 50 bucks or whatever and ran out of content in four hours for single-player.
The "lacks content" one always interested me. So if you run out of stuff to do after two months instead of after six months, does that mean those first two months weren't fun? Heck, Call of Duty cost 40 or 50 bucks or whatever and ran out of content in four hours for single-player.
Are you being serious?
If you are then you need to think about what you just said.
"You run out of stuff to do after tow months instead of after six months, does that mean those first two months weren't fun?"
First what the hell are you talking about, nobody said the content was not fun, they are saying they are out of stuff to do which means they will not re sub which means the company loses money, which means it cannot make more content.
Second you are comparing single player games with MMOs. They are not the same... you buy a single player game knowing that it will end after a given number of hours. You buy a MMO thinking it will last you for years to come.
Third A MMO game that lacks enough content to keep the average gamer busy for less then 6 months is a bad game. Period. Content = subs subs = money
Sooner or Later
lol, I'd ask if YOU are being serious. Who expects an MMO to last them for years anymore? I would wager not the majority. And certainly not the people around here, who hype up every new game for months if not years, and then when it finally comes out they play it for a month or two before saying it sucks and moving on to hype and play something else.
And so what, single-player game vs. MMO. Both are still competing for your time and entertainment dollars. It's not like Monday Night Football is only competing against other football shows in the ratings.
The question still stands: if an MMO entertains for "only" two months, were those two months not fun? You, yourself, just said nobody said it wasn't fun, so you're off on a different point than what I'm referring to.
Maybe someone won't think the game was worth $50 or $100 (special edition boxes) or whatever, but, let's take, oh, Vanguard, which doesn't cost anything for the actual game, you just pay $15 a month. Let's say someone plays that for two months, has fun for two months, then runs out of stuff to do, then complains it's a crap game because there's "no content" after playing for 30 hours a week x 8 weeks = 240 hours.
Another one is DDO. I saw what I'm talking about said a lot about DDO in the past. You could purchase the game for as low as $5 for the first month. Let's say someone rushes through and gets to max level in that time. They play 100+ hours, apparently have fun for that 100+ hours that they paid $5 for, and then complain the game sucks and isn't worth playing because it has no content. A game sucks and isn't worth playing if it entertains you for "only" 100 to 240 hours?
(channelling Gladiator)... For 100+ hours, were you not entertained? Were You Not Entertained!?
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