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  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162
    Originally posted by Faxxer

    Originally posted by keltic1701

    Originally posted by Faxxer


    LOL @ all the fox bashers.
    let the hate flow from you. 
    oh did you guys hear?  Today Glenn Beck was NUMBER ONE in ratings

     

    All that proves is that TV really does rot the brains of  a massive amount of people. Every time someone mentions Fox "News" I think of the Hulu commercials. Softening American brain to be consumed.



     

    The funny thing is, fox is the newest kid on the block.

    They're just are more effective at turning your brain into silly-putty. They know how to push your buttons Faxxer.

    That tv rotting statement really applies to your NON fox stations for much longer of the time.

    I usually don't watch the other network news (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN or MSNBC) so I'm not here to defend any one particular news service like you seem to want to.  I tend to watch BBC News and The News Hour since they don't resort to theatrics that the news networks, which Fox is especially guilty of.

    just think, if you knock fox off the air, then every other "news" station is exactly the same. 

    I actually think that if Fox "news" went off the air that the other networks would probably improve since they wouldn't have to compete with a Murdoc's televised three ring circus who's motto is "He who shouts the loudest must be right".

     

  • ArndurArndur Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,202
    Originally posted by Vato26

    Originally posted by nurgles


    I initially read the thread title as "Fox News attacks the Neanderthals...." and thought, it is always a bad idea to negatively portray your customers.
     

    Lol... good one.  And, after talking with many Conservatives IRL, I tend to agree.



     

    I get the same feeling when I talk to Liberals.

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  • SabiancymSabiancym Member UncommonPosts: 3,150
    Originally posted by Faxxer


    LOL @ all the fox bashers.
    let the hate flow from you. 
    oh did you guys hear?  Today Glenn Beck was NUMBER ONE in ratings

     

    American Idol is also usually number one in the ratings.

     

    Quantity = quality??

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Faxxer


    LOL @ all the fox bashers.
    let the hate flow from you. 
    oh did you guys hear?  Today Glenn Beck was NUMBER ONE in ratings



     

    I see you already dropped your standard of actually discussing the point in question.

    remember?



    "Notice how none of the liberals are discussing the actual point"

    The thing you accussed so many other people of?

  • baffbaff Member Posts: 9,457

    Consoles suck!

    I'm pretty sure that's the real point of this thread.

     

     

    There is a Dutch city called Utrecht.

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  • Scubie67Scubie67 Member UncommonPosts: 462

     So people would get rid of Fox News,The only Objective network left to question President Obama as well as his administration.



     I guess MSNBC is liberals idea of fair and balanced along with the 30 other Tv networks that just Suck and Swallow on this administration.



     Sounds like that would be Monopoly of ideals to me with no other Checks and balances to keep credibility.



     

  • SabiancymSabiancym Member UncommonPosts: 3,150
    Originally posted by Scubie67


     So people would get rid of Fox News,The only Objective network left to question President Obama as well as his administration.



     I guess MSNBC is liberals idea of fair and balanced along with the 30 other Tv networks that just Suck and Swallow on this administration.



     Sounds like that would be Monopoly of ideals to me with no other Checks and balances to keep credibility.



     

     

    Being objective is one thing, being openly against anything and everything not coming from a conservative is another.

  • Scubie67Scubie67 Member UncommonPosts: 462

     

    Originally posted by Sabiancym

    Originally posted by Scubie67


     So people would get rid of Fox News,The only Objective network left to question President Obama as well as his administration.



     I guess MSNBC is liberals idea of fair and balanced along with the 30 other Tv networks that just Suck and Swallow on this administration.



     Sounds like that would be Monopoly of ideals to me with no other Checks and balances to keep credibility.



     

     

    Being objective is one thing, being openly against anything and everything not coming from a conservative is another.



     

    It only appears that way to you due to the liberal curve abundance of the other networks ,that being said I would gladly watch a TRUELY impartial network but sadly there is none.I guess you could say CSPAN stations as they have no moderation but they really dont report,plus I like to stay awake

  • keltic1701keltic1701 Member Posts: 1,162
    Originally posted by Scubie67


     So people would get rid of Fox News,The only Objective network left to question President Obama as well as his administration.



     I guess MSNBC is liberals idea of fair and balanced along with the 30 other Tv networks that just Suck and Swallow on this administration.



     Sounds like that would be Monopoly of ideals to me with no other Checks and balances to keep credibility.



     

     

    While I doubt if I would shed a tear if Fox news bit the dust, I also wouldn't be too sorry to see MSNBC go as well. Both are symptoms of a major credibility problem that is rampant throughout most the TV news industry that is more interest in spoon feeding and entertaining viewers than actually reporting the news. Fox and MSNBC are simply polar opposite examples of the same problem. While there are a small loyal following for both, it's a more than a little simplistic to assume as you have that if you are not one (a conservative Fox viewer or a liberal MSNBC viewer) then by default you are the other. Not everyone follows that black or white scenario that you and Faxxer seem to think the world is divided in to and in fact the world is a multitude of different shades of gray.

  • nurglesnurgles Member Posts: 840


    Originally posted by Arndur
    Originally posted by Vato26
    Originally posted by nurgles I initially read the thread title as "Fox News attacks the Neanderthals...." and thought, it is always a bad idea to negatively portray your customers.
     
    Lol... good one.  And, after talking with many Conservatives IRL, I tend to agree.

    I get the same feeling when I talk to Liberals.


    whoa, so having leanings in a political direction means that you can not run a rational argument?

    To me what was said simply showed that not only is FOX news not a NEWS service they are comfortable lying and support an erosion of science, fact and education.

    In this case the defense for saying Hollands socially liberal policies are causing the country to turn into a cesspool of drugs and violence for which the evidence shows that America is worse. Was to say that a relative amount (a percentage) can not be compared for two populations, one which is larger than another.

    When someone on a news service says that a relative amount (a percentage) can not be compared for two populations, one which is larger than another you have someone who does not care that they are lying. They simply target the poorly educated and the ignorant.

    Now i don't care if this person is a liberal, communist, fascist, anarchist, Christian, high school teacher, parent or associated with any group at all, it is simply pandering to an ignorant audience and has no illusions about supporting an agenda with critical thought.

  • FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247
    Originally posted by nurgles


     

    Originally posted by Arndur


    Originally posted by Vato26


    Originally posted by nurgles
     
    I initially read the thread title as "Fox News attacks the Neanderthals...." and thought, it is always a bad idea to negatively portray your customers.

     



    Lol... good one.  And, after talking with many Conservatives IRL, I tend to agree.


     

    I get the same feeling when I talk to Liberals.


     

    whoa, so having leanings in a political direction means that you can not run a rational argument?

    To me what was said simply showed that not only is FOX news not a NEWS service they are comfortable lying and support an erosion of science, fact and education.

    In this case the defense for saying Hollands socially liberal policies are causing the country to turn into a cesspool of drugs and violence for which the evidence shows that America is worse. Was to say that a relative amount (a percentage) can not be compared for two populations, one which is larger than another.

    When someone on a news service says that a relative amount (a percentage) can not be compared for two populations, one which is larger than another you have someone who does not care that they are lying. They simply target the poorly educated and the ignorant.

    Now i don't care if this person is a liberal, communist, fascist, anarchist, Christian, high school teacher, parent or associated with any group at all, it is simply pandering to an ignorant audience and has no illusions about supporting an agenda with critical thought.



     

    and yet...

    every liberal loves to compare the us to netherlands as an example of how it "should be" in the US...this is why he did a segment on that topic.

    Do you see why we have a problem with this entire argument?

    several on here that jumped on fox either don't watch o'shannity or don't watch fox....that particular show is all about pointing out illogical liberal thinking.  and he does it with a very insulting flare (I wonder if that is why his show is so popular?)

    libs want the right to use a small nation as an example of how the "us has failed," but they don't want to hear ANYTHING contrary when people try and show that you just can't "do it that way...like they do in X country" for example.

  • BrianshoBriansho Member UncommonPosts: 3,586
    Originally posted by Faxxer

    Originally posted by nurgles


     

    Originally posted by Arndur


    Originally posted by Vato26


    Originally posted by nurgles
     
    I initially read the thread title as "Fox News attacks the Neanderthals...." and thought, it is always a bad idea to negatively portray your customers.

     

     
    Lol... good one.  And, after talking with many Conservatives IRL, I tend to agree.


     

    I get the same feeling when I talk to Liberals.


     

    whoa, so having leanings in a political direction means that you can not run a rational argument?

    To me what was said simply showed that not only is FOX news not a NEWS service they are comfortable lying and support an erosion of science, fact and education.

    In this case the defense for saying Hollands socially liberal policies are causing the country to turn into a cesspool of drugs and violence for which the evidence shows that America is worse. Was to say that a relative amount (a percentage) can not be compared for two populations, one which is larger than another.

    When someone on a news service says that a relative amount (a percentage) can not be compared for two populations, one which is larger than another you have someone who does not care that they are lying. They simply target the poorly educated and the ignorant.

    Now i don't care if this person is a liberal, communist, fascist, anarchist, Christian, high school teacher, parent or associated with any group at all, it is simply pandering to an ignorant audience and has no illusions about supporting an agenda with critical thought.



     

    and yet...

    every liberal loves to compare the us to netherlands as an example of how it "should be" in the US...this is why he did a segment on that topic.

    Do you see why we have a problem with this entire argument?

    several on here that jumped on fox either don't watch o'shannity or don't watch fox....that particular show is all about pointing out illogical liberal thinking.  and he does it with a very insulting flare (I wonder if that is why his show is so popular?)

    libs want the right to use a small nation as an example of how the "us has failed," but they don't want to hear ANYTHING contrary when people try and show that you just can't "do it that way...like they do in X country" for example.

     

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  • BigdavoBigdavo Member UncommonPosts: 1,863
    Originally posted by Faxxer




     
    and yet...
    every liberal loves to compare the us to netherlands as an example of how it "should be" in the US...this is why he did a segment on that topic.
    Do you see why we have a problem with this entire argument?
    several on here that jumped on fox either don't watch o'shannity or don't watch fox....that particular show is all about pointing out illogical liberal thinking.  and he does it with a very insulting flare (I wonder if that is why his show is so popular?)
    libs want the right to use a small nation as an example of how the "us has failed," but they don't want to hear ANYTHING contrary when people try and show that you just can't "do it that way...like they do in X country" for example.



     

    You still haven't discussed the point, if you read the title it has nothing do with 'dem damn libs'... on the whole your posts are nothing but rhetoric and rubbish. Libs this, libs that, libber labber lol, it's ridiculous.

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  • nurglesnurgles Member Posts: 840


    Originally posted by Faxxer

    and yet...
    every liberal loves to compare the us to netherlands as an example of how it "should be" in the US...this is why he did a segment on that topic.
    Do you see why we have a problem with this entire argument?
    several on here that jumped on fox either don't watch o'shannity or don't watch fox....that particular show is all about pointing out illogical liberal thinking.  and he does it with a very insulting flare (I wonder if that is why his show is so popular?)
    libs want the right to use a small nation as an example of how the "us has failed," but they don't want to hear ANYTHING contrary when people try and show that you just can't "do it that way...like they do in X country" for example.


    So, the reason he can ignore statistical analysis is because he is insulting some people? This is why you accept it as a news program?

  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562
    Originally posted by nurgles


     

    Originally posted by Faxxer
     
    and yet...

    every liberal loves to compare the us to netherlands as an example of how it "should be" in the US...this is why he did a segment on that topic.

    Do you see why we have a problem with this entire argument?

    several on here that jumped on fox either don't watch o'shannity or don't watch fox....that particular show is all about pointing out illogical liberal thinking.  and he does it with a very insulting flare (I wonder if that is why his show is so popular?)

    libs want the right to use a small nation as an example of how the "us has failed," but they don't want to hear ANYTHING contrary when people try and show that you just can't "do it that way...like they do in X country" for example.

     

    So, the reason he can ignore statistical analysis is because he is insulting some people? This is why you accept it as a news program?

     

    the O'Reilly Factor is not a news program. I think he's a pinhead but he doesn't do a news program. He does a talk show.

  • EarthgirlEarthgirl Member UncommonPosts: 97
    Originally posted by Fishermage


    the O'Reilly Factor is not a news program. I think he's a pinhead but he doesn't do a news program. He does a talk show.



     

    It is not just the O'Reilly Factor.  The problem with Fox News is that you always know ahead of time who is going to "win".  Reminds me more of a cheerleading team then a News Show. 

     

  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562
    Originally posted by Earthgirl

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    the O'Reilly Factor is not a news program. I think he's a pinhead but he doesn't do a news program. He does a talk show.



     

    It is not just the O'Reilly Factor.  The problem with Fox News is that you always know ahead of time who is going to "win".  Reminds me more of a cheerleading team then a News Show. 

     

     

    One could say the same thing about all the networks. Fox is the only one however, whose bias is right wing populism, not left wing populism. All are populist, however, and appeal to the lowest in all of us.

  • FaxxerFaxxer Member Posts: 3,247
    Originally posted by Fishermage

    Originally posted by Earthgirl

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    the O'Reilly Factor is not a news program. I think he's a pinhead but he doesn't do a news program. He does a talk show.



     

    It is not just the O'Reilly Factor.  The problem with Fox News is that you always know ahead of time who is going to "win".  Reminds me more of a cheerleading team then a News Show. 

     

     

    One could say the same thing about all the networks. Fox is the only one however, whose bias is right wing populism, not left wing populism. All are populist, however, and appeal to the lowest in all of us.



     

    precisely why fox thrives.  How dare they show anything other than the left's point of view.

  • MardyMardy Member Posts: 2,213
    Originally posted by Earthgirl

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    the O'Reilly Factor is not a news program. I think he's a pinhead but he doesn't do a news program. He does a talk show.



     

    It is not just the O'Reilly Factor.  The problem with Fox News is that you always know ahead of time who is going to "win".  Reminds me more of a cheerleading team then a News Show. 

     

     

    Sure, just like you can guess a week ahead of the time what MSNBC is going to say about Obama/Democrats.  What's new?  If you want to generalize the whole Fox News because of 1 or 2 shows they have, that's as ridiculous for me to generalize the whole MSNBC or CNN for having a couple of far extreme shows as well.

     

    Bill O'Reilly is a conservative talk show host, people watch him for entertainment, and he does a good job entertaining his audience.  I don't watch his show everyday, but when I do, I don't agree with him half of the time.  He's too conservative for me, but he, just like Beck and anybody else, brings up good questions that nobody else on other networks will ask.  Bill's definitely a pinhead a lot of the times, but then his guests even though that work at Fox have disagreed with him quite often on views.  So to generalize the whole Fox News based on 1 talkshow host's opinion is pretty extreme wouldn't you say?

     

    Personally I don't think Netherlands is relevant enough for me to care about what goes on there.  It's a small country with a small population.  If you don't like what Bill says about Netherlands, then check out what wiki says to get an idea about what people in the world reads about it:  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands

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  • EarthgirlEarthgirl Member UncommonPosts: 97
    Originally posted by Mardy

    Originally posted by Earthgirl

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    the O'Reilly Factor is not a news program. I think he's a pinhead but he doesn't do a news program. He does a talk show.



     

    It is not just the O'Reilly Factor.  The problem with Fox News is that you always know ahead of time who is going to "win".  Reminds me more of a cheerleading team then a News Show. 

     

     

    Sure, just like you can guess a week ahead of the time what MSNBC is going to say about Obama/Democrats.  What's new?  If you want to generalize the whole Fox News because of 1 or 2 shows they have, that's as ridiculous for me to generalize the whole MSNBC or CNN for having a couple of far extreme shows as well.

     

    Bill O'Reilly is a conservative talk show host, people watch him for entertainment, and he does a good job entertaining his audience.  I don't watch his show everyday, but when I do, I don't agree with him half of the time.  He's too conservative for me, but he, just like Beck and anybody else, brings up good questions that nobody else on other networks will ask.  Bill's definitely a pinhead a lot of the times, but then his guests even though that work at Fox have disagreed with him quite often on views.  So to generalize the whole Fox News based on 1 talkshow host's opinion is pretty extreme wouldn't you say?

     

    Personally I don't think Netherlands is relevant enough for me to care about what goes on there.  It's a small country with a small population.  If you don't like what Bill says about Netherlands, then check out what wiki says to get an idea about what people in the world reads about it:  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netherlands



     

    You are making a mistake by putting words in my mouth.  I am not basing my opinion on just 1 or 2 shows.  Just because you beleive Fox News is presented in an unbiased format does not mean others have to share your view.  Fox is not the only network at fault here, one can see the same happening on other news channels favouring the left.  Anyway, this is just my opinion, and I hope we can just agree to disagree.

    Thank you for the wiki link about The Netherlands.  It was a nice read. 

     

  • frodusfrodus Member Posts: 2,396

    Yeah.. the Netherlands is a easy target.Liburls have to watch allot of Fox to be so well in formed.

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  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562
    Originally posted by Faxxer

    Originally posted by Fishermage

    Originally posted by Earthgirl

    Originally posted by Fishermage


    the O'Reilly Factor is not a news program. I think he's a pinhead but he doesn't do a news program. He does a talk show.



     

    It is not just the O'Reilly Factor.  The problem with Fox News is that you always know ahead of time who is going to "win".  Reminds me more of a cheerleading team then a News Show. 

     

     

    One could say the same thing about all the networks. Fox is the only one however, whose bias is right wing populism, not left wing populism. All are populist, however, and appeal to the lowest in all of us.



     

    precisely why fox thrives.  How dare they show anything other than the left's point of view.

     

    Yup, this is also true :)

  • EarthgirlEarthgirl Member UncommonPosts: 97
    Originally posted by Fishermage


     
    People attack what they fear.



     

    This is only natural,  but in some cases they may delay (ignore), because they do not want to face certain facts.

  • FishermageFishermage Member Posts: 7,562
    Originally posted by Earthgirl

    Originally posted by Fishermage


     
    People attack what they fear.



     

    This is only natural,  but in some cases they may delay (ignore), because they do not want to face certain facts.

     

    Good point.

  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by Faxxer

    Originally posted by nurgles


     

    Originally posted by Arndur


    Originally posted by Vato26


    Originally posted by nurgles
     
    I initially read the thread title as "Fox News attacks the Neanderthals...." and thought, it is always a bad idea to negatively portray your customers.

     



    Lol... good one.  And, after talking with many Conservatives IRL, I tend to agree.


     

    I get the same feeling when I talk to Liberals.


     

    whoa, so having leanings in a political direction means that you can not run a rational argument?

    To me what was said simply showed that not only is FOX news not a NEWS service they are comfortable lying and support an erosion of science, fact and education.

    In this case the defense for saying Hollands socially liberal policies are causing the country to turn into a cesspool of drugs and violence for which the evidence shows that America is worse. Was to say that a relative amount (a percentage) can not be compared for two populations, one which is larger than another.

    When someone on a news service says that a relative amount (a percentage) can not be compared for two populations, one which is larger than another you have someone who does not care that they are lying. They simply target the poorly educated and the ignorant.

    Now i don't care if this person is a liberal, communist, fascist, anarchist, Christian, high school teacher, parent or associated with any group at all, it is simply pandering to an ignorant audience and has no illusions about supporting an agenda with critical thought.



     

    and yet...

    every liberal loves to compare the us to netherlands as an example of how it "should be" in the US...this is why he did a segment on that topic.

    Do you see why we have a problem with this entire argument?

    several on here that jumped on fox either don't watch o'shannity or don't watch fox....that particular show is all about pointing out illogical liberal thinking.  and he does it with a very insulting flare (I wonder if that is why his show is so popular?)

    libs want the right to use a small nation as an example of how the "us has failed," but they don't want to hear ANYTHING contrary when people try and show that you just can't "do it that way...like they do in X country" for example.

    You mean like how conservatives points at other nations and use that as an argument against healthcare? I suppose its okay to use other countries as an example when conservatives think it's in their favor, right?

     

    "About pointing out illogical liberal thinking?" Is this a bad joke? Fox News attacks a country and yet when presented with the facts that the Netherlands liberal drug policy is doing significantly better than the US's conservative drug policy he suddenly says "I don't even care about what happpens over there". That's illogical.



    Calling another country a cesspool of corruption and an Anarchy when that particular country is doing significantly better than your own on that given subject is hypocrisy, a concept you of all people should be well aware of.

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