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Am I the only one who HATES dragon age?

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  • neonwireneonwire Member Posts: 1,787
    Originally posted by Thillian

    Originally posted by Kenaoshi


    surely not a 9/10 but i say a 6/10, its NWN with better gfx and boring loooong talking but we havent a game like this in a long time so its just a fix shot =p



     

    Actually, there was - if you look for party-like RPG and it's called Drakensang released lately.



     

    Ah thank you for posting that one. I had completely forgotten about it. As I have given up on mmos for the time being, I am on the lookout for at least relatively decent single player rpgs/adventures. I have Risen and possibly Deadpspace ready to go once I have completed Dragon Age. Now I can add Drakensang to the list. Any other good ones would be most welcome 

  • MokweeMokwee Member Posts: 286

    I guess I should of said I would of rather kept playing EVE than waste my time in a single player game...

     

    kthxbai

  • neonwireneonwire Member Posts: 1,787
    Originally posted by Mokwee


    I installed it and uninstalled about 10mins later. Just not my kinda game. If it was MMO that would be different. I just cant play single player rpg anymore since mmorpg is so much better.



     

    I think I must be your polar opposite. I cant play mmos anymore and find single player rpgs to be much better lol

  • camp11111camp11111 Member Posts: 602

    Thanks for the review OP.

    Just saved me 50 Euros. In these solo games (adventures/rpg) I never buy the new launches.

    You can pick them up at 30% one year after launch. Just bought Fall-Out 3 with all 5 expansions for 24 Euros at amazon UK.

    You can always play an older game  years after the hype.

    It's important to jump into a new launched MMO and feel the crowd, but since this is irrelevant in non MMO's one should always wait and see what's it all about.

    I didn't find the Witcher that good either btw and yes I hate those loading graphics screens. It takes away immersiveness.

    Want a real mmorpg? Play WOW with experience turned off mode and be Pve_Pvp King at any level without a rat race.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655

    Ah yes your so right loading screens are the devil and I won't play any game with them.

    Oh wait I just excluded myself from playing ANY GAMES THAT CURRENTLY ARE ON THE MARKET.

    Whops.

    Oh I guess I could go back to super nintendo and play Zelda a link to the past, that didn't have loading screens.

    I bet if I find an assassins' Creed 2 post they won't complain about the loading screens or the long cut scenes in that game.

     

    Wouldn't it be funny if this is how TOR plays?  Lots of loading screens cut scenes and you don't directly control your companion so everyone cries about it at launch.

    I see a future of lots of people crying.

  • GetViolatedGetViolated Member Posts: 335
    Originally posted by lawnmowerman


       I , for one, am perplexed by the hype/reviews of this game. I mean, I get why it's so hyped on this site as mmorpg.com has increasingly lost credence in the journalistic department and seem to be more shills for the highest advertiser than anything at this point...but In my own opinion this game is just...well, not good. Far be it from me to just post nonsense like that without giving you my reasons though:
     
    1) Load screens.Lots of them.
    2) Ok, the story is KIND OF interesting. Doesn't mean I wanna take 3 steps watch a 5 minute cut scene, fight one mob, watch a 5 minute cut scene...etc
    3) very , very , very linear. There is no "world". There is a series of linear, very restricted zones. You port from one to the next. "Exploring" consist of bouncing back and forth like a ping pong ball between walls, both invisible and not down the corridor that is the "story"
    4) combat. Sigh. Revolutionary? Breathtaking? My god. Swing my sword, hit pause, cue attacks, unpause, watch action for 3 seconds, pause again. yeah...takes my breath right away. Guys..."exhilarating combat" generally doesn't involve the pause button.
    5)DLC ON LAUNCH DAY!!!!!!! LOLOLOL
    6) partyy system. Meh, this one is personal preference, but I dont want to have to control a party. Game would have been better , imo if it was just me and my hound. When I think of a classic rpg, i think of me. My chararacter.Singular.Micromanaging sucks.
     
    Iv'e got more, but will stop there. Not really designed to be a bash of boware or their game, I just don't like it. Obviously a ton of people do. It just surprises me  is all. I am an older guy so perhaps what i think of as a "good game" is just different from the current generations. Seems "playable movies" are the new thing :(
      

    lmao go back to playing your dumbed down RPGS in oblivion and fallout3

    Dragon Age is a masterpiece

    i'm sorry you have a shit computer and dont' have a brain that can unstand the combat

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by GetViolated 
    lmao go back to playing your dumbed down RPGS in oblivion and fallout3
    Dragon Age is a masterpiece
    i'm sorry you have a shit computer and dont' have a brain that can unstand the combat

     

    How can you say that Oblivion and Fallout 3 are "dumbed down."

    If you mention that they don't have as many voice actors... then I look at you like you just spit up vomit on my face. 

    Seriously the games are very similar in their design, one is first person and one is third person.  I seriously can't believe people are splitting hairs like this.

  • VexeVexe Member Posts: 549

    It's a traditional RPG. I don't think you like these anyway, so I have no idea why you picked these up. neverwinter nights, BG and all that Jazz. The beauty in Dragon age is in it's interactions with NPCs. You seem like you don't want to do all that pesky talking and get straight to the action. Not your game. Do research before you buy things.

    Also the loading screens are only bad in orzimmar and the beginning. And I've spent whole 2 hour periods without cut scenes. Unless you think of a conversation as a cut scene.

  • greed0104greed0104 Member Posts: 2,134
    Originally posted by Laughing-man


     
    How can you say that Oblivion and Fallout 3 are "dumbed down."
    If you mention that they don't have as many voice actors... then I look at you like you just spit up vomit on my face. 
    Seriously the games are very similar in their design, one is first person and one is third person.  I seriously can't believe people are splitting hairs like this.

     

    Oblivion and FO3 were both good. Fallout 3 was made a bit easier. V.A.T.S played a role in that. Doesn't make it bad though, watching my bullet travel from a sniper rifle through the neck of a mutant and watching his head fly off was awesome.

  • Hrayr2148Hrayr2148 Member Posts: 649
    Originally posted by lawnmowerman



    4) combat. Sigh. Revolutionary? Breathtaking? My god. Swing my sword, hit pause, cue attacks, unpause, watch action for 3 seconds, pause again. yeah...takes my breath right away. Guys..."exhilarating combat" generally doesn't involve the pause button.
      

     

    Couldn't agree more.  I loved KOTOR I and II, and LOVED Mass Effect.  I played 4 hours of Dragon's Age.  The story and voice acting was superb.  But then I realized, it was more like a movie than a game.  Then I started to play and was completely underwhelmed.

    I picked the warrior class.  Guess what, on the PS3 version you can only bind 6 abilities to the Triangle, Square, and Circle buttons.  Additionally, a lot of your abilities are passive, meaning once you cast it, it remains on.  To say that the game bored me to tears is an understatement.

    All I do is autoattack, then do one or two abilities that have worse animation than your standard mmo.   I really wanted to immerse myself in the game being such a HUGE fan of bioware.   The gameplay completely ruined the experience for me.  I havn't had a single urge to return and play again.

  • GetViolatedGetViolated Member Posts: 335
    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by GetViolated 
    lmao go back to playing your dumbed down RPGS in oblivion and fallout3
    Dragon Age is a masterpiece
    i'm sorry you have a shit computer and dont' have a brain that can unstand the combat

     

    How can you say that Oblivion and Fallout 3 are "dumbed down."

    If you mention that they don't have as many voice actors... then I look at you like you just spit up vomit on my face. 

    Seriously the games are very similar in their design, one is first person and one is third person.  I seriously can't believe people are splitting hairs like this.

     

    fallout3 has almost no depth to any aspect of the game

    it's boring as hell

  • greed0104greed0104 Member Posts: 2,134
    Originally posted by GetViolated

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by GetViolated 
    lmao go back to playing your dumbed down RPGS in oblivion and fallout3
    Dragon Age is a masterpiece
    i'm sorry you have a shit computer and dont' have a brain that can unstand the combat

     

    How can you say that Oblivion and Fallout 3 are "dumbed down."

    If you mention that they don't have as many voice actors... then I look at you like you just spit up vomit on my face. 

    Seriously the games are very similar in their design, one is first person and one is third person.  I seriously can't believe people are splitting hairs like this.

     

    fallout3 has almost no depth to any aspect of the game

    it's boring as hell

    It was more about what you wanted to do.

    I do agree that they're both far easier then DO:A. I got the game 2 days before official release and it was damned difficult even on normal. I played through on Hard which felt like nightmare. I didn't touch nightmare. I have limits. I'll leave that for somebody more hardcore.

  • Toquio3Toquio3 Member Posts: 1,074
    Originally posted by GetViolated

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by GetViolated 
    lmao go back to playing your dumbed down RPGS in oblivion and fallout3
    Dragon Age is a masterpiece
    i'm sorry you have a shit computer and dont' have a brain that can unstand the combat

     

    How can you say that Oblivion and Fallout 3 are "dumbed down."

    If you mention that they don't have as many voice actors... then I look at you like you just spit up vomit on my face. 

    Seriously the games are very similar in their design, one is first person and one is third person.  I seriously can't believe people are splitting hairs like this.

     

    fallout3 has almost no depth to any aspect of the game

    it's boring as hell

    you feel about fallout3 the same way others feel about dragon age. how about you show some tolerance and understanding? but no, you choose to look down on them. gg.

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    If you stand VERY still, and close your eyes, after a minute you can actually FEEL the universe revolving around PvP.

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by GetViolated 
     
    fallout3 has almost no depth to any aspect of the game
    it's boring as hell

     

    Well you sure can state your opinions very well, however you fail to back them up with any facts or thoughts that would support it.

    Which leads me to believe you yourself are unsure as to why you dislike the game, did one of your friends IRL tell you that it sucked and you never played it and are basing all of your knowledge off a 3rd party source?

    Did it somehow beat up you in middle school and now your seeking your revenge?

    I just don't get it, you have no facts or thoughts as to support your thesis and yet you adamantly hate the games.

  • neonwireneonwire Member Posts: 1,787
    Originally posted by Mokwee


    I guess I should of said I would of rather kept playing EVE than waste my time in a single player game...
     
    kthxbai



     

    Ah well in that case you have just gained +10 favour with me. You have gained access to the following extra dialogue option.

    EVE is one of the few mmos I actually have any respect for. I personally couldnt get into it but its still the type of mmo that I want to see more of. Virtual interactive worlds where players can effect each other. Ok EVE doesnt exactly match that description but its closer than all the rest and more of what a true mmo should be. Nearly all the others are like playing shitty single player games online with optional co-op features........and on top of that I have to pay a monthly fee for this lack of quality? Erm no thanks. So I've decided that if I'm gonna spend my time playing linear games that tell me stories then I may as well play proper single player games which are much better quality games. This is while I wait for game companies to learn how to make real mmos.

    I guess I'll be playing single player games for quite a while.

  • thexratedthexrated Member UncommonPosts: 1,368
    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by GetViolated 
    lmao go back to playing your dumbed down RPGS in oblivion and fallout3
    Dragon Age is a masterpiece
    i'm sorry you have a shit computer and dont' have a brain that can unstand the combat

     

    How can you say that Oblivion and Fallout 3 are "dumbed down."

    If you mention that they don't have as many voice actors... then I look at you like you just spit up vomit on my face. 

    Seriously the games are very similar in their design, one is first person and one is third person.  I seriously can't believe people are splitting hairs like this.

     

    Dumbed down might not be the best way to put it, but there is a tactical element in the Dragon Age type of games that does not exist in first-person RPGs like Oblivion or Fallout 3.

    Some people just love the turn-based tactical combat that can be viewed from isometric perspective. There are many titles that have done it very well in the past, like original Fallout,  Baldur's Gate, X-Com, Jagged Alliance etc.

    Now there is a tactical element in some FPSs, like CS, but that is not present in many (if any) FPSRPGs.

     

    "The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."

  • camp11111camp11111 Member Posts: 602
    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Ah yes your so right loading screens are the devil and I won't play any game with them.
    Oh wait I just excluded myself from playing ANY GAMES THAT CURRENTLY ARE ON THE MARKET.
    Whops.
    Oh I guess I could go back to super nintendo and play Zelda a link to the past, that didn't have loading screens.



     

    Too much loading screens is indeed a killer.

    And not every game has them in the same order.

    Oh, when you go into a complete diffferent setting with a portal or something, I don't see any problems.

    But when you enter a door in a building or taking another floor inside that building, you don't need to have loading screens unless you like sloppy programming.

    To stay with MMO's: AoC was terrible, while Wow is about right to have an open world feeling.

    I hate mountains that are mere paintings on a wall. There is a world in "well designed" video games, not some loaded paintings and screen savers.

     

     

    Want a real mmorpg? Play WOW with experience turned off mode and be Pve_Pvp King at any level without a rat race.

  • GetViolatedGetViolated Member Posts: 335
    Originally posted by thexrated

    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by GetViolated 
    lmao go back to playing your dumbed down RPGS in oblivion and fallout3
    Dragon Age is a masterpiece
    i'm sorry you have a shit computer and dont' have a brain that can unstand the combat

     

    How can you say that Oblivion and Fallout 3 are "dumbed down."

    If you mention that they don't have as many voice actors... then I look at you like you just spit up vomit on my face. 

    Seriously the games are very similar in their design, one is first person and one is third person.  I seriously can't believe people are splitting hairs like this.

     

    Dumbed down might not be the best way to put it, but there is a tactical element in the Dragon Age type of games that does not exist in first-person RPGs like Oblivion or Fallout 3.

    Some people just love the turn-based tactical combat that can be viewed from isometric perspective. There are many titles that have done it very well in the past, like original Fallout,  Baldur's Gate, X-Com, Jagged Alliance etc.

    Now there is a tactical element in some FPSs, like CS, but that is not present in many FPSRPGs.

     

     

    the only tactics you need to use in Fallout3 are the VATS system

    it's a one trick pony

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by GetViolated 
    the only tactics you need to use in Fallout3 are the VATS system
    it's a one trick pony

     

    VATS is optional.

    If you CHOOSE to make the game a number RPG and less a skill RPG that is entirely on your Sir.

    I'm sorry if you can't figure out how to make a games difficulty scaling for you so you can enjoy it, the rest of us don't have that problem.

    I like Oblivion, I like Fallout 3, I like Dragon Age.

    I wish Dragon Age's combat was more hands on and less strategy and waiting.

    I wish Oblivion and Fallout had more strategy, but honestly I really enjoy how "hands on" the games feel as opposed to Dragon Age.

     

    Both types of games are quality productions and worthy of our play time, however they have very different play styles and feels to them.

     

    Oh and I LOVE CLAUDIA BLACK.

    Just thought I'd throw that out there.

  • GetViolatedGetViolated Member Posts: 335
    Originally posted by Laughing-man

    Originally posted by GetViolated 
    the only tactics you need to use in Fallout3 are the VATS system
    it's a one trick pony

     

    VATS is optional.

    If you CHOOSE to make the game a number RPG and less a skill RPG that is entirely on your Sir.

    I'm sorry if you can't figure out how to make a games difficulty scaling for you so you can enjoy it, the rest of us don't have that problem.

    I like Oblivion, I like Fallout 3, I like Dragon Age.

    I wish Dragon Age's combat was more hands on and less strategy and waiting.

    I wish Oblivion and Fallout had more strategy, but honestly I really enjoy how "hands on" the games feel as opposed to Dragon Age.

     

    Both types of games are quality productions and worthy of our play time, however they have very different play styles and feels to them.

     

    Oh and I LOVE CLAUDIA BLACK.

    Just thought I'd throw that out there.

     

    oh yea i have to gimp myself to make the game more challenging? that makes sense

    i've tried not using the VATS system and the game is a joke

  • Lord_IxiganLord_Ixigan Member Posts: 548
    Originally posted by camp11111

    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Ah yes your so right loading screens are the devil and I won't play any game with them.
    Oh wait I just excluded myself from playing ANY GAMES THAT CURRENTLY ARE ON THE MARKET.
    Whops.
    Oh I guess I could go back to super nintendo and play Zelda a link to the past, that didn't have loading screens.



     

    Too much loading screens is indeed a killer.

    And not every game has them in the same order.

    Oh, when you go into a complete diffferent setting with a portal or something, I don't see any problems.

    But when you enter a door in a building or taking another floor inside that building, you don't need to have loading screens unless you like sloppy programming.

    To stay with MMO's: AoC was terrible, while Wow is about right to have an open world feeling.

    I hate mountains that are mere paintings on a wall. There is a world in "well designed" video games, not some loaded paintings and screen savers.

     

     

     

    Hmmm, really....unless you're a dip that falls for purely cosmetic landscapes that just -look- like you can go up them.

    If a mountain is nothing more than some raised terrain that doesn't actually have any codework under it so you can actually go up onto it (aka there are invisible 'walls') then there is basically no difference between them and any other kind of cosmetic landscape.

    Dragon Age may be a little limited, but I wouldn't call it linear. Linear is a rail shooter where you start and blast stuff while following along a path that is essentially impossible to lose. In Dragon Age you can do the main story in what ever order you want to. You can stop a quest at any time you want to and come back to it.

    People need to stop crying. It's pathetic. It's like watching some five year old cry that their flavor of ice cream wasn't just right. FFS and QFT.

  • neonwireneonwire Member Posts: 1,787
    Originally posted by camp11111

    Originally posted by Laughing-man


    Ah yes your so right loading screens are the devil and I won't play any game with them.
    Oh wait I just excluded myself from playing ANY GAMES THAT CURRENTLY ARE ON THE MARKET.
    Whops.
    Oh I guess I could go back to super nintendo and play Zelda a link to the past, that didn't have loading screens.



     

    Too much loading screens is indeed a killer.

    And not every game has them in the same order.

    Oh, when you go into a complete diffferent setting with a portal or something, I don't see any problems.

    But when you enter a door in a building or taking another floor inside that building, you don't need to have loading screens unless you like sloppy programming.

    To stay with MMO's: AoC was terrible, while Wow is about right to have an open world feeling.

    I hate mountains that are mere paintings on a wall. There is a world in "well designed" video games, not some loaded paintings and screen savers.



     

    I didnt think the views of mountains and other scenery in Dragon Age looked like "mere paintings on a wall". Those scenes looked pretty damned good to me. Sure I couldnt walk up to those mountains in the distance. Good thing too as it looked like it would take me days to do so.......only to find that theres nothing there thats of any relevance to the story.

    God forbid that any game should have evil immersion breaking loading screens. Its much better if you can jog up to those mountains off in the distance in a few minutes because thats much better for immersion right?

  • Laughing-manLaughing-man Member RarePosts: 3,655
    Originally posted by GetViolated 
    oh yea i have to gimp myself to make the game more challenging? that makes sense
    i've tried not using the VATS system and the game is a joke

     

    Yes, its just like turning up the difficulty level in a game... I know that idea must be odd to one such as yourself.

    You seem to like things handed to you, did you know that your beloved Dragon Age has a difficulty setting? 

    Did you know on "hard" you get friendly fire?

    That is like "gimping" yourself too...

     

  • CeridithCeridith Member UncommonPosts: 2,980

    The combat system, character advancement system, and the gameplay in general was just very bland and generic for me. The game looked nice and pretty, and the voice acting was pretty decent... but it felt more like an interactive movie than it did an actual RPG.

    If there is a sequel made in a similar manner, I won't be buying it, at least not until it drops significantly in price.

  • MasoniclightMasoniclight Member Posts: 87

     Although I appreciate the honesty of the OP, I have to seriously disagree. Dragon Age is a superb game. Yes, there are a few pathing problems and yes, some of the dialog between you and your party don't make since once certain choices have been made, those little glitches do not have any impact upon the game itself. If the game Hall of Fame was still around (remember CGW's Hall of fame?) I would nominate Dragon Age to be in that pantheon right now. I am sorry you don't seem to enjoy the game but I realize that not every game is made for every gamer.

    So Mote It Be.

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