Very very very biased assumptions. Especially for an Opening post so close to the day it was added to MMORPG.com.
You have your reasons based on the past games. We can only hope this one doesn't have as much grind or empty/hollowness as its predecessors(as what you said, not I). and if it does. Oh well---
---Don't play it.
Also: You explain like an arrogant flaming 13 year old troll. Work on that and maybe your point will get across much better.
Also2: Loving the graphics and the fast action stuff. They said Unreal Tournament 3 Builder right? Its sexy.
Very very very biased assumptions. Especially for an Opening post so close to the day it was added to MMORPG.com. You have your reasons based on the past games. We can only hope this one doesn't have as much grind or empty/hollowness as its predecessors(as what you said, not I). and if it does. Oh well--- ---Don't play it. Also: You explain like an arrogant flaming 13 year old troll. Work on that and maybe your point will get across much better. Also2: Loving the graphics and the fast action stuff. They said Unreal Tournament 3 Builder right? Its sexy.
there's no info on the game yet and it's not even out in korea, i have no idea what the op is so angry about lol,
Very very very biased assumptions. Especially for an Opening post so close to the day it was added to MMORPG.com. You have your reasons based on the past games. We can only hope this one doesn't have as much grind or empty/hollowness as its predecessors(as what you said, not I). and if it does. Oh well--- ---Don't play it. Also: You explain like an arrogant flaming 13 year old troll. Work on that and maybe your point will get across much better. Also2: Loving the graphics and the fast action stuff. They said Unreal Tournament 3 Builder right? Its sexy.
there's no info on the game yet and it's not even out in korea, i have no idea what the op is so angry about lol,
The only thing I have to be angry about, if anything, is the players themselves. They continue to support hunks of trash like this and by doing so actually make the creation of horrible games a viable MMO industry tactic.
2009 has been the year of the failed MMO release. No game this year has delivered anywhere near what it has promised, and with players continuing to express excessive optimism where none is deserved nothing will change.
Very very very biased assumptions. Especially for an Opening post so close to the day it was added to MMORPG.com. You have your reasons based on the past games. We can only hope this one doesn't have as much grind or empty/hollowness as its predecessors(as what you said, not I). and if it does. Oh well--- ---Don't play it. Also: You explain like an arrogant flaming 13 year old troll. Work on that and maybe your point will get across much better. Also2: Loving the graphics and the fast action stuff. They said Unreal Tournament 3 Builder right? Its sexy.
there's no info on the game yet and it's not even out in korea, i have no idea what the op is so angry about lol,
The only thing I have to be angry about, if anything, is the players themselves. They continue to support hunks of trash like this and by doing so actually make the creation of horrible games a viable MMO industry tactic.
2009 has been the year of the failed MMO release. No game this year has delivered anywhere near what it has promised, and with players continuing to express excessive optimism where none is deserved nothing will change.
Ncsoft provides near everything they promise. They expected Aion to take the #2 spot in the west and guess what? they did. They didn't claim it to be filled from 1-50 with quests, they localized it to their taste and included more quests then what were available to the east. The developers 'want' B&S to be quest/pvp based. Read the article from my previous post.
"The only thing I have to be angry about, if anything, is the players themselves. They continue to support hunks of trash like this and by doing so actually make the creation of horrible games a viable MMO industry tactic." - dar_es_bala
WE are to assume the games you support are the best out there, cutting edge everything and are not trash? Being these are your current playings Dungeons & Dragons Online: Eberron Unlimited, NeoSteam and The Chronicles of Spellborn. These are by far the best out there?
I agree, enough with the kung fu! Westernised MMO gamers do not like Kung Fu! (Well I don't anyway lol).
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
Well Lyoto Machida uses a type of Karate and hes 16-0 in his MMA record. While Jujitsu is a good fighting style it still comes down to the over all fighter. I don't matter how good you are at jujitsu if you can't get the fight to the ground you skills will be no good.
But to be on topic, what is level grind? Is it a game that takes forever to level? To me I enjoy games that take a while to level as long as there is enough content to support it, or if its grouping involved.
I agree, enough with the kung fu! Westernised MMO gamers do not like Kung Fu! (Well I don't anyway lol).
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
Well Lyoto Machida uses a type of Karate and hes 16-0 in his MMA record. While Jujitsu is a good fighting style it still comes down to the over all fighter. I don't matter how good you are at jujitsu if you can't get the fight to the ground you skills will be no good.
But to be on topic, what is level grind? Is it a game that takes forever to level? To me I enjoy games that take a while to level as long as there is enough content to support it, or if its grouping involved.
I just said taht the best fighting style was jiu jitsu. You still need training to make it be unbeatable for yourself. I also said that the best hand to hand fighting style overall is using grapple. You cant just strike and expect to win vs someone who will surely use grapple or bring the fight to the ground. A guy tat do any style of grapple combined with a great karate can beat any jiu jitsu users because the karate guy will surely be able to defend him self to the ground or counter the jiu jitsu grapple with his own grapple tecnic to cancel his grab so the karate guy can still have time to trow some strikes while standing. Im just saying that most of the ppl who focus on karate or kung lose vs the pro grapplers because they them self lack of grapple tecnic. Karate is suppose to be a self defense fighting style that you use for a quick defense. Not to focus on a straight one on one that could last more then 3 minutes. Same for kung fu.
Take snake from metal gear for exemple. Yeah, i talk about that SQC. Even if he dont have any weapon, he is still pretend to old a knife and a gun and all he does is submissions and make you drop to the ground really quick. Even in the art of beating someone the quickest possible, grapple tecnic are way better then striking tecnic.
"The only thing I have to be angry about, if anything, is the players themselves. They continue to support hunks of trash like this and by doing so actually make the creation of horrible games a viable MMO industry tactic." - dar_es_bala
WE are to assume the games you support are the best out there, cutting edge everything and are not trash? Being these are your current playings Dungeons & Dragons Online: Eberron Unlimited, NeoSteam and The Chronicles of Spellborn. These are by far the best out there?
MMORPG is only the genre where people care about games they will never play.You never hear people who play gears of wars care or complain about halo or call of duty.You don't like martial arts mmo fine ,guess what they are not making the game for you they are making the game for people who like kung fu mmo.
LOL! I bet you were also a supporter of Age of Conan.
"Oooh this games gonna be so great"
*fast forward 1 year*
"This game sucks! WTF the dev team is so lame!"
We already know what to expect from the NCSoft team. Lineage, L2, and Aion all tell us this will be a hollow game with a large leveling curve. The game experience will amount to a bunch of fairly well put together early quest lines petering out around level 30, from that point forward giving you diminishing returns until the only thing you are doing is grinding some endgame boss mob hoping you can loot the 1 piece of epic gear faster than your teammates!
Silly newbie.
wtf?
1st- I never played age of conan.
2nd-Game never got me any intrest, actually i hate the concept.
3rd-B4 sayin anything, think twice so you don't make yourself look like an idiot.
how do I assume what everyone wants? I'd like to see a kung fu mmo no doubt, but since NCsoft is making it i'll never play the game. It's not like they are a new company and don't have 5+ mmo's out already. Honestly if this game was made by ANY other company i'd play it.
how do I assume what everyone wants? I'd like to see a kung fu mmo no doubt, but since NCsoft is making it i'll never play the game. It's not like they are a new company and don't have 5+ mmo's out already. Honestly if this game was made by ANY other company i'd play it.
Terrible customer service, seriously when I played lineage 2 my first mmo I didn't know any better.
I just assumed that if someone took advantage of you in game or there are lots of bots in games thats just part of the game.
I played WoW for 4 years and I guess it completely spoiled me in the customer service department. I got keylogged in WoW right before BC came out. I played a hunter that was decked out in 4 of 9 tier3 (level 60 naxx gear at the time). This was when you could disenchant anything there were no caps.
Some homo d/ed everything i had on like 12 toons, even this level 31 gnome mage that my girlfriend was playing lol..
Anyways they gave me back everything that I had lost.
I had some deusche scam me in lineage 2 for some elven long bow (i forgot the exact name) anyways i went through gm's I even called them. They didn't help me at all.
You can argue a lot about NCsoft and their games, but I don't think anyone can deny what terrible customer service they have. WAR AoC both had really good customer service also.
Terrible customer service, seriously when I played lineage 2 my first mmo I didn't know any better. I just assumed that if someone took advantage of you in game or there are lots of bots in games thats just part of the game. I played WoW for 4 years and I guess it completely spoiled me in the customer service department. I got keylogged in WoW right before BC came out. I played a hunter that was decked out in 4 of 9 tier3 (level 60 naxx gear at the time). This was when you could disenchant anything there were no caps. Some homo d/ed everything i had on like 12 toons, even this level 31 gnome mage that my girlfriend was playing lol.. Anyways they gave me back everything that I had lost. I had some deusche scam me in lineage 2 for some elven long bow (i forgot the exact name) anyways i went through gm's I even called them. They didn't help me at all. You can argue a lot about NCsoft and their games, but I don't think anyone can deny what terrible customer service they have. WAR AoC both had really good customer service also.
really.. customer service huh? seriously men shouldn't whine and hold grief because of shit like that....
I hate myself for it, but I'll most likely buy it. I'm so bored with MMOs right now I really need a new one. After Aion I'm almost positive it's going to be complete shit though
why not? It's clearly not a important part of a game for you, but for me it is.
Different mind-set. Little things like that to me sound nitpicky. If it was like a graphics issue or you dislike the games they make, but if your interested in the game you should give it a shot. There's no reason to hold back because customer service is lacking. That would be in the back of the list of reasons I won't play a MMO IMO.
I hate myself for it, but I'll most likely buy it. I'm so bored with MMOs right now I really need a new one. After Aion I'm almost positive it's going to be complete shit though
Don't buy it. I assure you it's not the game for you. You like western games only like everyone else in this website.
you say that now, just wait till something out of your control happens. Then you will harbor some reluctance and appreciate good customer service.
Honestly terrible customer service is what ruined Aion/lineage 2 for a lot of people in some way shape or form. Go check out lineage 2 forums there are still tons of bots in that game and its over 6 years old now.
you say that now, just wait till something out of your control happens. Then you will harbor some reluctance and appreciate good customer service. Honestly terrible customer service is what ruined Aion/lineage 2 for a lot of people in some way shape or form. Go check out lineage 2 forums there are still tons of bots in that game and its over 6 years old now.
I can't believe the ideology discussion on "Best" Martial Arts is still going on.
There is no "Best" since they all have their strengths and weaknesses. You just have fighters who are masters of their Martial Art but it shouldn't allow them to represent the strength of their martial art. Being undefeated may say something about the fighter but in all it shouldn't represent the Martial Art. We are all human, we make mistakes and are definitely not perfect.
Thus we cannot live up to be a perfect example of a Martial Art. Just shadows of what it entails. Personally I like the ideologies of Tai Chi, Bagua Zhang, Krav Maga, Drunken Style/Monkey(if it counts~), and the deadly Fist of The North Star...*sarcasm*
Yi Quan and Jeet Kune Do are also interesting(also near-polar) concepts/ideas/studys, but this isn't the thread for that. lol~
As for the topic at hand. Your supposed to be discussing the game (of which there is barely any information except the teaser), not the company. That usually leads to misconceptions about the product. Flame elsewhere.
Comments
Very very very biased assumptions. Especially for an Opening post so close to the day it was added to MMORPG.com.
You have your reasons based on the past games. We can only hope this one doesn't have as much grind or empty/hollowness as its predecessors(as what you said, not I). and if it does. Oh well---
---Don't play it.
Also: You explain like an arrogant flaming 13 year old troll. Work on that and maybe your point will get across much better.
Also2: Loving the graphics and the fast action stuff. They said Unreal Tournament 3 Builder right? Its sexy.
there's no info on the game yet and it's not even out in korea, i have no idea what the op is so angry about lol,
there's no info on the game yet and it's not even out in korea, i have no idea what the op is so angry about lol,
The only thing I have to be angry about, if anything, is the players themselves. They continue to support hunks of trash like this and by doing so actually make the creation of horrible games a viable MMO industry tactic.
2009 has been the year of the failed MMO release. No game this year has delivered anywhere near what it has promised, and with players continuing to express excessive optimism where none is deserved nothing will change.
Laudanum - Romance. Revenge. Revolution.
Crappy, petty people breed and raise crappy, petty kids.
there's no info on the game yet and it's not even out in korea, i have no idea what the op is so angry about lol,
The only thing I have to be angry about, if anything, is the players themselves. They continue to support hunks of trash like this and by doing so actually make the creation of horrible games a viable MMO industry tactic.
2009 has been the year of the failed MMO release. No game this year has delivered anywhere near what it has promised, and with players continuing to express excessive optimism where none is deserved nothing will change.
Ncsoft provides near everything they promise. They expected Aion to take the #2 spot in the west and guess what? they did. They didn't claim it to be filled from 1-50 with quests, they localized it to their taste and included more quests then what were available to the east. The developers 'want' B&S to be quest/pvp based. Read the article from my previous post.
"The only thing I have to be angry about, if anything, is the players themselves. They continue to support hunks of trash like this and by doing so actually make the creation of horrible games a viable MMO industry tactic." - dar_es_bala
WE are to assume the games you support are the best out there, cutting edge everything and are not trash? Being these are your current playings Dungeons & Dragons Online: Eberron Unlimited, NeoSteam and The Chronicles of Spellborn. These are by far the best out there?
keep the korean mmos in korea thanks.
Nice, another who assume's what everyone wants
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
Well Lyoto Machida uses a type of Karate and hes 16-0 in his MMA record. While Jujitsu is a good fighting style it still comes down to the over all fighter. I don't matter how good you are at jujitsu if you can't get the fight to the ground you skills will be no good.
But to be on topic, what is level grind? Is it a game that takes forever to level? To me I enjoy games that take a while to level as long as there is enough content to support it, or if its grouping involved.
Chuck Norris would disagree.
Ummm, chuck is suppose to do Karate.
On a real talk, the best fighting style is jiu jetsu. Why? Because jiu jetsu always bring the fight to the ground so kung fu masters, karate and all taht cant even have a good reaction. Thats why UFC is the best show to watch real fight.
Kung fu, karate are made for movies only. You would never be able to win counting on kung fu in a streetfight if someone is bigger then you because if he is smart, he will bring the fight to the ground and choke you up or break your arms.
Well Lyoto Machida uses a type of Karate and hes 16-0 in his MMA record. While Jujitsu is a good fighting style it still comes down to the over all fighter. I don't matter how good you are at jujitsu if you can't get the fight to the ground you skills will be no good.
But to be on topic, what is level grind? Is it a game that takes forever to level? To me I enjoy games that take a while to level as long as there is enough content to support it, or if its grouping involved.
I just said taht the best fighting style was jiu jitsu. You still need training to make it be unbeatable for yourself. I also said that the best hand to hand fighting style overall is using grapple. You cant just strike and expect to win vs someone who will surely use grapple or bring the fight to the ground. A guy tat do any style of grapple combined with a great karate can beat any jiu jitsu users because the karate guy will surely be able to defend him self to the ground or counter the jiu jitsu grapple with his own grapple tecnic to cancel his grab so the karate guy can still have time to trow some strikes while standing. Im just saying that most of the ppl who focus on karate or kung lose vs the pro grapplers because they them self lack of grapple tecnic. Karate is suppose to be a self defense fighting style that you use for a quick defense. Not to focus on a straight one on one that could last more then 3 minutes. Same for kung fu.
Take snake from metal gear for exemple. Yeah, i talk about that SQC. Even if he dont have any weapon, he is still pretend to old a knife and a gun and all he does is submissions and make you drop to the ground really quick. Even in the art of beating someone the quickest possible, grapple tecnic are way better then striking tecnic.
C:\Users\FF\Desktop\spin move.gif
+1. LMAO. Good find.
Go back to The Chronicles of Spellborn? . . .oohh. . .wait.
MMORPG is only the genre where people care about games they will never play.You never hear people who play gears of wars care or complain about halo or call of duty.You don't like martial arts mmo fine ,guess what they are not making the game for you they are making the game for people who like kung fu mmo.
Go back to The Chronicles of Spellborn? . . .oohh. . .wait.
ahahahahhahahahahahahhaa
LOL! I bet you were also a supporter of Age of Conan.
"Oooh this games gonna be so great"
*fast forward 1 year*
"This game sucks! WTF the dev team is so lame!"
We already know what to expect from the NCSoft team. Lineage, L2, and Aion all tell us this will be a hollow game with a large leveling curve. The game experience will amount to a bunch of fairly well put together early quest lines petering out around level 30, from that point forward giving you diminishing returns until the only thing you are doing is grinding some endgame boss mob hoping you can loot the 1 piece of epic gear faster than your teammates!
Silly newbie.
wtf?
1st- I never played age of conan.
2nd-Game never got me any intrest, actually i hate the concept.
3rd-B4 sayin anything, think twice so you don't make yourself look like an idiot.
My 2 cents.
Nice, another who assume's what everyone wants
how do I assume what everyone wants? I'd like to see a kung fu mmo no doubt, but since NCsoft is making it i'll never play the game. It's not like they are a new company and don't have 5+ mmo's out already. Honestly if this game was made by ANY other company i'd play it.
Nice, another who assume's what everyone wants
how do I assume what everyone wants? I'd like to see a kung fu mmo no doubt, but since NCsoft is making it i'll never play the game. It's not like they are a new company and don't have 5+ mmo's out already. Honestly if this game was made by ANY other company i'd play it.
What's your beef with NCsoft. Spit it out.
Terrible customer service, seriously when I played lineage 2 my first mmo I didn't know any better.
I just assumed that if someone took advantage of you in game or there are lots of bots in games thats just part of the game.
I played WoW for 4 years and I guess it completely spoiled me in the customer service department. I got keylogged in WoW right before BC came out. I played a hunter that was decked out in 4 of 9 tier3 (level 60 naxx gear at the time). This was when you could disenchant anything there were no caps.
Some homo d/ed everything i had on like 12 toons, even this level 31 gnome mage that my girlfriend was playing lol..
Anyways they gave me back everything that I had lost.
I had some deusche scam me in lineage 2 for some elven long bow (i forgot the exact name) anyways i went through gm's I even called them. They didn't help me at all.
You can argue a lot about NCsoft and their games, but I don't think anyone can deny what terrible customer service they have. WAR AoC both had really good customer service also.
really.. customer service huh? seriously men shouldn't whine and hold grief because of shit like that....
why not? It's clearly not a important part of a game for you, but for me it is.
I hate myself for it, but I'll most likely buy it. I'm so bored with MMOs right now I really need a new one. After Aion I'm almost positive it's going to be complete shit though
Different mind-set. Little things like that to me sound nitpicky. If it was like a graphics issue or you dislike the games they make, but if your interested in the game you should give it a shot. There's no reason to hold back because customer service is lacking. That would be in the back of the list of reasons I won't play a MMO IMO.
Don't buy it. I assure you it's not the game for you. You like western games only like everyone else in this website.
you say that now, just wait till something out of your control happens. Then you will harbor some reluctance and appreciate good customer service.
Honestly terrible customer service is what ruined Aion/lineage 2 for a lot of people in some way shape or form. Go check out lineage 2 forums there are still tons of bots in that game and its over 6 years old now.
Fair enough. I get your point now.
I can't believe the ideology discussion on "Best" Martial Arts is still going on.
There is no "Best" since they all have their strengths and weaknesses. You just have fighters who are masters of their Martial Art but it shouldn't allow them to represent the strength of their martial art. Being undefeated may say something about the fighter but in all it shouldn't represent the Martial Art. We are all human, we make mistakes and are definitely not perfect.
Thus we cannot live up to be a perfect example of a Martial Art. Just shadows of what it entails. Personally I like the ideologies of Tai Chi, Bagua Zhang, Krav Maga, Drunken Style/Monkey(if it counts~), and the deadly Fist of The North Star...*sarcasm*
Yi Quan and Jeet Kune Do are also interesting(also near-polar) concepts/ideas/studys, but this isn't the thread for that. lol~
As for the topic at hand. Your supposed to be discussing the game (of which there is barely any information except the teaser), not the company. That usually leads to misconceptions about the product. Flame elsewhere.