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People need to give the Alganon fans a dose of reality...

TheDarzinTheDarzin Member Posts: 219

Seriously, it's like they are wearing beer goggles and can't question anything. I have never seen a group of such loyal sheep in my life. I mean no matter what the issue, the answer is always -- "it's getting better," "you must be an anomaly," or "further down the road." I mean wow, it's as bad as the rabid fanboism that Blizzard inspires. Tidbits of charm include:

www.alganon.com/forums/index.php A delightful read, in which someone responds to a post and is immediately jumped on.

www.alganon.com/forums/index.php Hang in there, everything will be all right, one day, eventually, in the future!

www.alganon.com/forums/index.php It's not a bad game, it's just people hate it... and if you disagree you can't think for yourself.

www.alganon.com/forums/index.php It's not the games fault... you have a bad computer!

When you play a WoW ripoff, it's best to close your eyes and tell yourself it isn't the same.... I HATE WOW, AND I LOVE ALGANON -- THEREFORE IT ISN'T A WOW CLONE! (Even if the Devs tell us it's built on a WoW UI, with WoW like graphics, WoW Gameplay, WoW Talent Trees, and WoW Crafting.. with Auction House built in for fun!)

 

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  • lancelot76lancelot76 Member Posts: 119

    What does it matter at this point? There is MORE than enough information out there for gamers to make a decision about Alganon. If the fans want to play it, and Alganon's current alpha state is not enough to stop them, how is anyone going to "give them a dose of reality"? They aren't going to listen. The threads you linked are proof of that. If the ship sinks, let them go down with the ship. If it manages to stay alive, let them have their fun. "You have been warned, stay away from this turkey" has been said, over & over again.

    That would be true for any game though. Why waste time trying to expose the truth about Alganon (it's already out there) when you could be enjoying some other game instead? I have been following Alganon's development and launch partially because I was so disappointed in a game that obviously had great potential but failed to meet it's own highly ambitious goals. There is no way, however I would try to convince the fans not to play. I guess you could quote the X-Files here: the truth is out there. The fans though don't care about the truth. They found a game they enjoy & they are going to play it, come hell or high water and damn the torpedoes.

    I say let them have their fun. If you want to post your opinion about Alganon, great the more reviews the merrier. But you might as well ask an entire mountain to move aside for your personal convenience rather than try to get any Alganon fans to question their grail.

  • ArckenArcken Member Posts: 2,431
    Originally posted by TheDarzin


    Seriously, it's like they are wearing beer goggles and can't question anything. I have never seen a group of such loyal sheep in my life. I mean no matter what the issue, the answer is always -- "it's getting better," "you must be an anomaly," or "further down the road." I mean wow, it's as bad as the rabid fanboism that Blizzard inspires. Tidbits of charm include:
    www.alganon.com/forums/index.php A delightful read, in which someone responds to a post and is immediately jumped on.
    www.alganon.com/forums/index.php Hang in there, everything will be all right, one day, eventually, in the future!
    www.alganon.com/forums/index.php It's not a bad game, it's just people hate it... and if you disagree you can't think for yourself.
    www.alganon.com/forums/index.php It's not the games fault... you have a bad computer!
    When you play a WoW ripoff, it's best to close your eyes and tell yourself it isn't the same.... I HATE WOW, AND I LOVE ALGANON -- THEREFORE IT ISN'T A WOW CLONE! (Even if the Devs tell us it's built on a WoW UI, with WoW like graphics, WoW Gameplay, WoW Talent Trees, and WoW Crafting.. with Auction House built in for fun!)
     



     

    You arent familiar with the froth and foam fanbois from Darkfall if this suprises you.

  • keolienkeolien Member Posts: 198

    I dont care about alganon but I do like reading interesting articles, In one of those threads posted by the op I saw this and couldn't stop laughing. It came from the choice awards thread.

     

    "I went there and voted. Saw the results, and apparently Alganon is at the bottom of almost every chart. The only chart that it wasn't on the bottom of was the Biggest Dissapointment chart, but probably because more people have played the other games than it."

    hehe..

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  • BanquettoBanquetto Member UncommonPosts: 1,037
    Originally posted by lancelot76



    Why waste time trying to expose the truth about Alganon (it's already out there) when you could be enjoying some other game instead?

    I enjoy other games instead during my leisure time. But I troll this forum when I'm supposed to be working. 

  • DelanorDelanor Member Posts: 659

    Love makes blind. That is true. However, it is a waste of time to talk sense into people who are in love. As it is also a waste of time to talk sense into someone with a Messiah complex. So, I wont try.

    --
    Delanor

  • tanoriltanoril Member Posts: 432

    There are always going to be a dedicated few who will defend a game, any game to the end no matter how bad it is.  And there is no turning them around.  Even games that got shutdown (Matrix Online) still had a small few that defended it to the end.  This is no different.  It's not worth the effort though to debate it though.  If people want to spend money on a product that's not worth spending on, so be it. 

  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,200

    Meh, I think it's cool. Like WoW? Want to play something just like it...for FREE?! Play Alganon.

    Not my cup of tea, but hey, it works for some people.

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • majimaji Member UncommonPosts: 2,091

    I think haters are more annoying than fanboys. If they are having fun playing the game, why would you want to stop them? There are Aion fanboys shouting "there is no grind", WoW fanboys shouting "our community iz t3h mozt mature!!!11" and for each other game as well.

    And who cares? They have fun so it's fine. If you don't have fun, then maybe should learn something from them?

    Let's play Fallen Earth (blind, 300 episodes)

    Let's play Guild Wars 2 (blind, 45 episodes)

  • TheDarzinTheDarzin Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by skeaser


    Meh, I think it's cool. Like WoW? Want to play something just like it...for FREE?! Play Alganon.
    Not my cup of tea, but hey, it works for some people.

     

    Umm Alganon isn't free? But it has been reduced in price from 14.99 to 9.99/mo and $20 for the client.

  • TheDarzinTheDarzin Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by maji


    I think haters are more annoying than fanboys. If they are having fun playing the game, why would you want to stop them? There are Aion fanboys shouting "there is no grind", WoW fanboys shouting "our community iz t3h mozt mature!!!11" and for each other game as well.
    And who cares? They have fun so it's fine. If you don't have fun, then maybe should learn something from them?

     

    If you think haters are annoying why respond? Who cares? Who cares if I spout off nonsense either? If I am having fun why do you care? Aren't you doing the same exact thing you espouse I and others shouldn't do? Having fun is fine, having fun because you are choosing to ignore reality is something altogether different.

  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,200
    Originally posted by TheDarzin

    Originally posted by skeaser


    Meh, I think it's cool. Like WoW? Want to play something just like it...for FREE?! Play Alganon.
    Not my cup of tea, but hey, it works for some people.

     

    Umm Alganon isn't free? But it has been reduced in price from 14.99 to 9.99/mo and $20 for the client.

     

    That's right, I messed that one up. In that case, it makes no sense to me to play Alganon, but again, if people are willing to pay then let 'em.

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • Actually its fun for me to watch it sink like titanic...

    its called schaderfreude.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XmZIcmRKkc

  • dannydeucedannydeuce Member Posts: 310

    You could say your entire post about every single game on mmorpg.com.  Just change the word "Alganon" to Aion, WoW, AoC, etc etc...

    You brought nothing new to the table with this one.

  • joker007mojoker007mo Member Posts: 712
    Originally posted by skeaser


    Meh, I think it's cool. Like WoW? Want to play something just like it...for FREE?! Play Alganon.
    Not my cup of tea, but hey, it works for some people.

     

    um how is it free they are expecting you to pay wow prices for it i think there was a price drop but still i dont recall it being free

     

    oops looks like someone stated this already lol

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  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334

    Dose of reality? 

    Reality is picking a game you find fun and playing it. Surreal bizarro world stuff is forming a relentless crusade against people who are enjoying a video game that you don't like.

    -- Whammy - a 64x64 miniRPG 
    RPG Quiz - can you get all 25 right? 
    FPS Quiz - how well do you know your shooters?  
  • I just enjoy reading destruction of a game as entertainment at work...free and dramatic on this forum :)

  • TheDarzinTheDarzin Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by dannydeuce


    You could say your entire post about every single game on mmorpg.com.  Just change the word "Alganon" to Aion, WoW, AoC, etc etc...
    You brought nothing new to the table with this one.

     

    And no one forced you to read it, so you have actually brought less. Congrats?

  • TheDarzinTheDarzin Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by LynxJSA


    Dose of reality? 
    Reality is picking a game you find fun and playing it. Surreal bizarro world stuff is forming a relentless crusade against people who are enjoying a video game that you don't like.

     

    Reality is picking a game you find fun and playing it -- correct. Reality is also being able to tell people why you enjoy the game, which no one has been able to do. Read all those posts, all the positive posts and it comes down to one thing -- I enjoy the community. Well, community is not a game, it never has been. I would assume this is pretty easy to understand. But, the reality I am speaking of, is that they need to realize they are blindly defending the game as not being a WoW clone, when even the Devs have claimed they were inspired by WoW to make "the first viable WoW alternative." That is the reality I am speaking of, not that the game is shit -- because everyone already knows that.

  • ozy1ozy1 Member Posts: 309

    Thought this was free to play. Cant think why any one would pay to play this game ><

    Playing Darkfall EU1 Server

  • LuckyRLuckyR Member UncommonPosts: 260

    Playing a game you like is awesome! It really doesn't matter if anyone else sees what you see in a game.

    We need choices, imagine a world with no choice! Only 1 of everything! I drive a Chev but in someones small world of no choice I could not, because only Ford was made, nothing else, and only 1 kind of Ford...an Edsel. Man this is so cool, I have an Edsel, ohhhh wait, you have an Edsel, he has an Edsel, damm it everyone has an Edsel!

    Screw this, I am going out for pizza, what do you mean there is no pizza, there are only burgers in the world.

    Man I HATE this, why can we not have a choice?

    Because, someone said choice was a bad thing, everyone must play, eat, drive and live like everyone else or you are lame, noob, fanboi, or just plain stupid. You need a dose, a reality check,  no-one want a choice.

  • TheDarzinTheDarzin Member Posts: 219
    Originally posted by LuckyR


    Playing a game you like is awesome! It really doesn't matter if anyone else sees what you see in a game.
    We need choices, imagine a world with no choice! Only 1 of everything! I drive a Chev but in someones small world of no choice I could not, because only Ford was made, nothing else, and only 1 kind of Ford...an Edsel. Man this is so cool, I have an Edsel, ohhhh wait, you have an Edsel, he has an Edsel, damm it everyone has an Edsel!
    Screw this, I am going out for pizza, what do you mean there is no pizza, there are only burgers in the world.
    Man I HATE this, why can we not have a choice?
    Because, someone said choice was a bad thing, everyone must play, eat, drive and live like everyone else or you are lame, noob, fanboi, or just plain stupid. You need a dose, a reality check,  no-one want a choice.

     

    This isn't about choice -- this is about the reality of the game. There is nothing wrong with having a million choices, but it is wrong to blindly go around saying "it's not a clone, it's not a clone, it's not a clone" even when the Devs can't tell you what makes it not a clone... or lie to cover it up.

  • LuckyRLuckyR Member UncommonPosts: 260
    Originally posted by TheDarzin

    Originally posted by LuckyR


    Playing a game you like is awesome! It really doesn't matter if anyone else sees what you see in a game.
    We need choices, imagine a world with no choice! Only 1 of everything! I drive a Chev but in someones small world of no choice I could not, because only Ford was made, nothing else, and only 1 kind of Ford...an Edsel. Man this is so cool, I have an Edsel, ohhhh wait, you have an Edsel, he has an Edsel, damm it everyone has an Edsel!
    Screw this, I am going out for pizza, what do you mean there is no pizza, there are only burgers in the world.
    Man I HATE this, why can we not have a choice?
    Because, someone said choice was a bad thing, everyone must play, eat, drive and live like everyone else or you are lame, noob, fanboi, or just plain stupid. You need a dose, a reality check,  no-one want a choice.

     

    This isn't about choice -- this is about the reality of the game. There is nothing wrong with having a million choices, but it is wrong to blindly go around saying "it's not a clone, it's not a clone, it's not a clone" even when the Devs can't tell you what makes it not a clone... or lie to cover it up.

    Sorry, but if being a clone makes it less of a game then there are only 3 games in reality. UO, EQ, AC. Almost every MMO out there now is copied from 1 or all of the grandpas of the genre.

     

  • BanquettoBanquetto Member UncommonPosts: 1,037
    Originally posted by TheDarzin


    Read all those posts, all the positive posts and it comes down to one thing -- I enjoy the community. Well, community is not a game, it never has been.

    Personally, I enjoy the community of people trashing Alganon on these forums.

     

  • PyrostasisPyrostasis Member UncommonPosts: 2,293

    If you go and attack someone on the forums for the game in question you are going to get some heat... thats pretty standard. If folks are on the forums for said game, then most of them like the game or are interested in the game. You insulting it is going to ruffle feathers... thats common sense.

    I dont currently play Alganon, I played it briefly in beta, but it wasnt for me. However, I do find it amusing that so many people are hating on this game calling it a wow clone.

    You do realize WoW is like a walking talking copy and paste of the entire warhammer universe right? Blizzard originally was a partner with gamers workshop and what we know as Warcraft the RTS game was actually going to be a Warhammer title. Due to some issues between the companies they split up and Blizzard simply changed the lore enough to make the game anyway. However, anyone with a 5th grade education can see the similarities... but people dont seem to scream that.

    How about the achievement system? Very similar to the LOTRO deed and WARHAMMER tools...

    Class and level based gameplay... no ingenuity there...

    Raiding... thank EQ1 for that...

    The list goes on and on. If you like the game play it, if you dont, then dont play it. However, going on a crusade to try and destroy a game is just silly imo. Specially since you have very little effect in the over all player base opinion.

  • BloodaxesBloodaxes Member EpicPosts: 4,662

    One thing is an mmo that takes some features of x game and another thing is to look identical even graphic wise plus almost identical features.


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