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quickman007
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i was just reading about the game on another site and it says "Some races, classes, & areas require payments to access.". i thought this game had the the traditional item shop and what not. i kinda want to DL it but if you need to buy some races and classes then idk if im going to bother with it....
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There is favored soul which is a 32point build vs. the default 26point build (points btw are for attributes such as str, INT, charsima, etc..., there are drow elves which and warforged races that I believe are the extra $$$ playable races). However, I think if you want to play Drow elves and unlock the 32 point build for your next toon, I think you just need to build up enough fame. You can do all the quests in every difficulty to build up your Fame points... but then that will take you a long time to do... so It may just be worth the $$ if you want to save time and not bother by gaining fame.
Meh, I hope it's accurate, because I did leave just after they implemented the ITEM shop, as I'm not a fan of that type of payment model.
Edit: I will have to eat my words when Redbana's Hellgate is re-released in NA region. As much as I hate f2p item shop models... I was addicted to Hellgate, and will play it regardless of the item shop... ugh... I'll hate that aspect but still find myself addicted to the Single Player version (that's how much I miss that game).
ill skip this then.
Its not like its required to play those races or classes. There is plenty of content that is free and you can still get it without paying. Its free so why not just give it a try and come to a conclusion before automatically being bias against a cash shop you haven't even had access to.
Well it is one of the better-looking f2p titles. You don't need to play all the races nor the classes, nor play all the content that isn't free. I left because I have a personal bias against the obvious greed of item shop designs, but there are others that still play DDO who don't mind it that much in DDO.
Heck you may like the free content in it. Doesn't hurt to give it a try, eventhough I hate item shop f2p model, you may still like this one... who knows?
/shrugs
So you will not try it but you are voicing an opinion on its status as best F2P of the year? Way to give it a chance.
DDO is worth a try. Just because it has a cash shop doesn't make it evil. They just restructured pricing in the cash shop, and most major things in it can be reached in-game.
You don't have to buy the drow, you just have to gain enough favor to unlock it, which is basically doing about 2-4 hours' worth of dungeons. You can unlock 32 pt builds and favored soul class by gaining favor as well.
The warforged are the race you have to buy to use, but warforged are handicapped because they don't use regular health potions like other races, they use repair kits and spells.
Anyway it's worth at least installing to check out. It's the most polished f2p I've played, regardless of how "free" it actually is.
You'd do a good job in marketing for them. The game is free yes, but in order to enjoy most of what it has to offer is far from free. I'm not saying it is a bad thing, merely that it's slipped under the generalisation that also encompasses games that are free to experience in every aspect they have to offer.
The difference is that this one is worth shelling out a little for whereas most of the others aren't.
So you will not try it but you are voicing an opinion on its status as best F2P of the year? Way to give it a chance.
ya, i am. and it's only an opinion, so there's no need to get upset about it.
also i heard the lvl cap is 20, that turned me off, and i also hear you can only do 80 of the 300+ quests unless you pay. so you have to buy quests, races, classes, parts of the map, and i'm guessing you have to buy upgrades for your gear and all that other item mall stuff. and THIS got the best F2P of the year. from what i hear, it sounds more like a P2P then a F2P. idk, that just doesn't excite me.
i'm not against cash shops. i don't really like the sub based MMOs. i prefer a cash shop.
So you will not try it but you are voicing an opinion on its status as best F2P of the year? Way to give it a chance.
ya, i am. and it's only an opinion, so there's no need to get upset about it.
also i heard the lvl cap is 20, that turned me off, and i also hear you can only do 80 of the 300+ quests unless you pay. so you have to buy quests, races, classes, parts of the map, and i'm guessing you have to buy upgrades for your gear and all that other item mall stuff. and THIS got the best F2P of the year. from what i hear, it sounds more like a P2P then a F2P. idk, that just doesn't excite me.
No in p2p you don't need to buy all that stuff... it's definately f2p more than a p2p that's for sure. But again you may still like the f2p content and class choices. I left because I was one of those players from the beginning... and general saw the item shop as a deterant for me, but for those who haven't tried it, I'd give it a go f2p... can't hurt and won't cost you anything to try it out at least.
races that have to be bought are warfoged and drow(which has to be unlocked if u sub)
class is the monk(don't think there are any others)
and the content is basically what they sell in the ddo store, it's a pay as you go kind of thing
and you don't have to pay them anything you get 25 store points per 100 favour you earn doing ingame quests. Plenty of ppl seem happy enough to try and farm all the points they want although i'd recommend paying maybe $5 a month or less
and fyi lvl cap is 20 for everyone with each lvl being split into 5 ranks, so you have to achieve 5 ranks before each lvl. There are also very little stat altering stuff in the store only really a few shortcuts for low lvls
races that have to be bought are warfoged and drow(which has to be unlocked if u sub)
class is the monk(don't think there are any others)
and the content is basically what they sell in the ddo store, it's a pay as you go kind of thing
and you don't have to pay them anything you get 25 store points per 100 favour you earn doing ingame quests. Plenty of ppl seem happy enough to try and farm all the points they want although i'd recommend paying maybe $5 a month or less
and fyi lvl cap is 20 for everyone with each lvl being split into 5 ranks, so you have to achieve 5 ranks before each lvl. There are also very little stat altering stuff in the store only really a few shortcuts for low lvls
oh i see. thats nice to know. idk, maybe ill try it sometime. is the tank class free?
races that have to be bought are warfoged and drow(which has to be unlocked if u sub)
class is the monk(don't think there are any others)
and the content is basically what they sell in the ddo store, it's a pay as you go kind of thing
and you don't have to pay them anything you get 25 store points per 100 favour you earn doing ingame quests. Plenty of ppl seem happy enough to try and farm all the points they want although i'd recommend paying maybe $5 a month or less
and fyi lvl cap is 20 for everyone with each lvl being split into 5 ranks, so you have to achieve 5 ranks before each lvl. There are also very little stat altering stuff in the store only really a few shortcuts for low lvls
oh i see. thats nice to know. idk, maybe ill try it sometime. is the tank class free?
I think it took me like 2 to 3 weeks of doing almost all my quests from level 1 to level 14 on elite... for around 2400 fame, but again you gotta run every quest from normal to elite to get full amount of Fame per quest. I remember at higher levels it was tough to find party members doing this. I forget if it was 2K for favored soul to unlock but I think it's worth it since you get to build your character's attributes from 32 points instead of the normal 28 point builds (those extra points make a difference imho). It's not impossible to earn that much fame, but prepare to put in a lot of hours and looking for realiable teammates who know the ins and outs of each quest (or you may just waste your time with less experienced players).
Not trying to discourage but just giving you some idea how time consuming the f2p aspects can be.
So you will not try it but you are voicing an opinion on its status as best F2P of the year? Way to give it a chance.
ya, i am. and it's only an opinion, so there's no need to get upset about it.
also i heard the lvl cap is 20, that turned me off, and i also hear you can only do 80 of the 300+ quests unless you pay. so you have to buy quests, races, classes, parts of the map, and i'm guessing you have to buy upgrades for your gear and all that other item mall stuff. and THIS got the best F2P of the year. from what i hear, it sounds more like a P2P then a F2P. idk, that just doesn't excite me.
I am not upset I was simply asking a question. By voicing an opinion of a game you never tried you look less then genuine in your post. I think you misunderstand the term F2P.
So you will not try it but you are voicing an opinion on its status as best F2P of the year? Way to give it a chance.
ya, i am. and it's only an opinion, so there's no need to get upset about it.
also i heard the lvl cap is 20, that turned me off, and i also hear you can only do 80 of the 300+ quests unless you pay. so you have to buy quests, races, classes, parts of the map, and i'm guessing you have to buy upgrades for your gear and all that other item mall stuff. and THIS got the best F2P of the year. from what i hear, it sounds more like a P2P then a F2P. idk, that just doesn't excite me.
I am not upset I was simply asking a question. By voicing an opinion of a game you never tried you look less then genuine in your post. I think you misunderstand the term F2P.
no i understand what F2P is.... i just think this game is just over using the item shop.
So you will not try it but you are voicing an opinion on its status as best F2P of the year? Way to give it a chance.
ya, i am. and it's only an opinion, so there's no need to get upset about it.
also i heard the lvl cap is 20, that turned me off, and i also hear you can only do 80 of the 300+ quests unless you pay. so you have to buy quests, races, classes, parts of the map, and i'm guessing you have to buy upgrades for your gear and all that other item mall stuff. and THIS got the best F2P of the year. from what i hear, it sounds more like a P2P then a F2P. idk, that just doesn't excite me.
I am not upset I was simply asking a question. By voicing an opinion of a game you never tried you look less then genuine in your post. I think you misunderstand the term F2P.
no i understand what F2P is.... i just think this game is just over using the item shop.
Have you downloaded it and checked the shop yet? Or still forming opinions based on no experience?
Why does a level cap of 20 turn you off? You do not buy upgrades to your gear either.
So you will not try it but you are voicing an opinion on its status as best F2P of the year? Way to give it a chance.
ya, i am. and it's only an opinion, so there's no need to get upset about it.
also i heard the lvl cap is 20, that turned me off, and i also hear you can only do 80 of the 300+ quests unless you pay. so you have to buy quests, races, classes, parts of the map, and i'm guessing you have to buy upgrades for your gear and all that other item mall stuff. and THIS got the best F2P of the year. from what i hear, it sounds more like a P2P then a F2P. idk, that just doesn't excite me.
I am not upset I was simply asking a question. By voicing an opinion of a game you never tried you look less then genuine in your post. I think you misunderstand the term F2P.
no i understand what F2P is.... i just think this game is just over using the item shop.
Have you downloaded it and checked the shop yet? Or still forming opinions based on no experience?
Why does a level cap of 20 turn you off? You do not buy upgrades to your gear either.
i'm forming opinions on what you guys are telling me, and what i'm reading on the website. so unless you and the website are lying, i don't see a reason why i shouldn't. your telling me what to expect in the game, then your telling me not to base an opinion off of that and to just try it. that just doesn't make sense to me.
and i don't mind the 20 lvl cap, now that i know there's 5 ranks for each lvl. which should make it a little better. i just don't like low lvl caps.
anyways i just read that there's duel classing, which i personally don't like. but it might not be that bad. i didn't like RoMs duel class system because i had to train 2 characters and it got really boring....
Yea when you first hear the number 20 you end up thinking - wtf? But with the 5 steps between each one it really works out a lot higher.
As far as the dual class goes; it's only an option if you want to do it, kind of like playing a Warforged, Monk or even a fighter vs magic user. Some do and some don't. I've toyed with the idea of picking up some thief skills for my fighter since I like to solo so much. Currently as a dumb sword swinger there's certain parts of dungeons I just can't get in to (secret doors etc.... ). It's not that I need to go into those area's, but it would be fun.
The last big upgrade scaled back alot of the item shop items - I think the motto was 'if it's free 2 play - then it should be FREE' and it opened up some more dungeons, moved item shop items over to regular drops etc... I've been playing AoC lately so I haven't logged on in a bit but pretty much the stuff that's left is cosmetic's and the higher level dungeon area's. Don't worry about buying armor or weapons upgrades as they are all in game type things.
DDO is a nice casual game and you really DON'T have to spend any money on it if you don't want to - it's really up to you.
SWG (pre-cu) - AoC (pre-f2p) - PotBS (pre-boarder) - DDO - LotRO (pre-f2p) - STO (pre-f2p) - GnH (beta tester) - SWTOR - Neverwinter
I never take others opinions & base my own on them, I take them under advisement, then go try the game out & find out whether it is to MY tastes or not, I suggest you do the same.
Cost to try it for yourself & form your own opinion: $0.00
Value of the opinions of others: $0.02
Value of your own opinion: you work it out....
For my $0.02 I've been playing DDO the last 5 months & enjoy it a great deal, it's my "main" game now, & I've invested some 30 bucks into it, & feel it was good value for money, the game's strengths are it's character development & the quality of it's dungeons & the interplay btween classes....it's downside is no open-world to roam around in with the masses & what feels like a very small world to play in, in terms of "world" to explore it's like roaming in your back garden, albeit with a hundred rabbit holes, sewers, & sheds to look into.
oh. well idk, it sounds like i won't really like it, but i'm like really bored so i'll probably just download it.
if i don't duel class, will i be at a disadvantage when it comes to PvP? because i know in RoM if you don't duel class then your going to have a tough time in PvP
Pvp? There's Pvp in the game? :-)
DDO is primarily a PvE - you vs the dungeon - type of game. There is a PvP arena in some of the taverns but if you're only looking at downloading the game for the Pvp action I wouldn't even bother. Heck I think LotRO even has more Pvp in it than DDO does.
SWG (pre-cu) - AoC (pre-f2p) - PotBS (pre-boarder) - DDO - LotRO (pre-f2p) - STO (pre-f2p) - GnH (beta tester) - SWTOR - Neverwinter
ok so there's no real PvP...well what's the point of getting good gear then?
The same reason as any single or multiplayer RPG to just get stronger and progress. The system is based off of dungeons and dragons ruleset after all, and D&D really wasn't a pvp game at all unless you wanted it to be.
Also multi classing has its perks but you need to know what your doing or else you'll severely gimp yourself. It's not like RoM where you level two classes side by side. It works like this, Say I'm a level 3 fighter, but next level I'd like some cleric spells. Well I could go gain 1 level in cleric and be a level 3 fighter/level 1 cleric and my overall level is 4. The trade off is that I will lose out on the hit bonus of the fighter, bonus feat, and fighter hp for 1 level, but instead I'll gain level 1 cleric spells. Basically you cannot level two or three classes simultaneously, you have to make trade offs. Although I would highly recommend you steer clear of multi classing for your first toon.
So you will not try it but you are voicing an opinion on its status as best F2P of the year? Way to give it a chance.
ya, i am. and it's only an opinion, so there's no need to get upset about it.
also i heard the lvl cap is 20, that turned me off, and i also hear you can only do 80 of the 300+ quests unless you pay. so you have to buy quests, races, classes, parts of the map, and i'm guessing you have to buy upgrades for your gear and all that other item mall stuff. and THIS got the best F2P of the year. from what i hear, it sounds more like a P2P then a F2P. idk, that just doesn't excite me.
I am not upset I was simply asking a question. By voicing an opinion of a game you never tried you look less then genuine in your post. I think you misunderstand the term F2P.
no i understand what F2P is.... i just think this game is just over using the item shop.
Have you downloaded it and checked the shop yet? Or still forming opinions based on no experience?
Why does a level cap of 20 turn you off? You do not buy upgrades to your gear either.
i'm forming opinions on what you guys are telling me, and what i'm reading on the website. so unless you and the website are lying, i don't see a reason why i shouldn't. your telling me what to expect in the game, then your telling me not to base an opinion off of that and to just try it. that just doesn't make sense to me.
and i don't mind the 20 lvl cap, now that i know there's 5 ranks for each lvl. which should make it a little better. i just don't like low lvl caps.
anyways i just read that there's duel classing, which i personally don't like. but it might not be that bad. i didn't like RoMs duel class system because i had to train 2 characters and it got really boring....
Basing n opinion of the store with never seeing it makes no sense. Basing an opinion on the duel classing which is nothing like ROMs by the way as you do not have to level an entirely different class in DDO without trying it makes no sense to me.
The level 20 cap in DDO is fine, because the game does not require 100 levels to be good or fun. The 5 ranks between levels are not really mini levels, early on they feel that way but later on the good enhancements cost more AP which you get 1 per rank. The enhancements really make your character good or bad depending on how you do it.
Honestly you should just DL it and try, but from what I see in your posts DDO will not be the game for you.
Because you need good gear to fight tougher mobs later in game. PvP is basicly dead in DDO and I hope it stays there. DDO is not made for nor balanced around PvP.