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Widows 7 version help.
I am thinking about upgrading my gaming pc to windows 7. I was just wondering if one version of it is better for mmorpg's. Like the home, proffesional, or ultimate.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
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it wouldn't really make too much of a difference.
Either way, I'd still go at least Professional... but maybe that's just the nerd in me saying "you must have control!" lol
- Ross
Only matters if it is a 32 bit or 64 bit version you are using tbh although the version may use more resources and so make them unavailable to the game you are laying.
Alods runs in 64 bit I think, AoC doesn't (32but) but from your sig you think it's the worst game??? Sounds like your PC can't handle it. AoC is ace now, loads of updates so far, loads coming...
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I have home on my laptop and Proff on my stationary. Both works fine with MMOs but get the 64 bits version of whatever you are buying, it will give better performance.
Home is kinda basic but if you just play and surf on it you don't need anything better. I spent some time deciding myself annd settled for proffesional since it fits my needs best, Ultimate doesn't include any more features that I actually use.
For the Laptop home is fine enough, It is just for games (mostly lans and when travelling) and for basic internet use.
So much better than the #¤%& Vista I had on my old laptop. I had XP on the desktop before but since it didn't suppurt my ram and GFX ram I changed, doesn't regret it either.
Good luck with it
Only matters if it is a 32 bit or 64 bit version you are using tbh although the version may use more resources and so make them unavailable to the game you are laying.
Alods runs in 64 bit I think, AoC doesn't (32but) but from your sig you think it's the worst game??? Sounds like your PC can't handle it. AoC is ace now, loads of updates so far, loads coming...
Everything will use resources making them unavailable to the game... That's called an operating system.
It's better to run 32 bit OS when playing games anyway, as 64 bit is not preferable. Mainly because there isn't too much that is compatible with a 64 bit OS.
So if we are adding the OS bit level's into this... I'd go for Windows 7 Professional - 32 bit.
Not a lot of people will need 64 bit, which is usually used by really high end users, otherwise there is no benefit. (Mainly used if you are running multiple high resource pieces of software. Graphic designers? 3D modelling? I don't know specifically but you will not get any benefit from 64 bit if your only running games.)
- Ross
What? AoC runs a lot better in 64 than 32. The 64 guys were the ones without memory leaks after launch.
I run 64 bits and havn't find a game that doesn't work in it yet (some old junk might not but GW, VG, EQ2, AoC, DDO and a few others works fine).
64 bits also allows you to use more memory.
The only problem with 64 bits is that some aps and older games doesn't work in it. the only one I seen since 7 was released is Peerguardian.
Most people including me reccomend 64 bits unless you have a really old PC.
What? AoC runs a lot better in 64 than 32. The 64 guys were the ones without memory leaks after launch.
I run 64 bits and havn't find a game that doesn't work in it yet (some old junk might not but GW, VG, EQ2, AoC, DDO and a few others works fine).
A lot of people like playing some old school stuff, these will most likely not work in 64 bit.
Yes, the latest stuff will work in 64 bit because people are recognising it more and more, regardless, for general gaming it's much better to be safe than sorry. Buying a 64 bit OS and then your favourite game doesn't work on it? I'd be pretty damn gutted. Everything works on 32 bit. 64 bit will not give too much of a performance difference.
Plus, considering we are trying to help the OP out here, he doesn't play AoC if you look at his sig... so that's out of the window.
- Ross
64 bits also allows you to use more memory.
The only problem with 64 bits is that some aps and older games doesn't work in it. the only one I seen since 7 was released is Peerguardian.
Most people including me reccomend 64 bits unless you have a really old PC.
Ok. 64 bit will let you use more memory at a time, but having a 32 bit OS with max memory count will be more than enough. 4 GB, which was XP's limit is more than enough for most people. That has been raised in new operating system's to 8 GB I think.
(16 GB in 64 bit operating systems, much higher if you go with servers... but thats going a bit far and you don't really need to look into that...)
Anyway, if you are running a 64 bit OS it's like having 2 lanes of traffic for data to run through instead of one. BUT! if you are running software that is only supported in 32 bit OS, it might still run in your 64 one, but at a much lower performance rate. Forcing these "2 lanes" to only use 1 as that is all the software will know to use. This itself will give a performance drop in the system overall - This is the simplest way I could think to explain it.
As I said, everything works fine in 32 bit, and it's probably your best bet as MOST software, including games, are coded for a 32 bit operating system.
Just trying to help, I don't want to start an argument here.
- Ross
Home is for home users with limited Administrators option , a little different UI in the option to make changes.
Professional has all the major option to configure , and UI looks different than home,
Ultimate , has all the option and tweeks you can do , Ultimate is the closest one to a server OS.
Home: i can recomend it if you dont care about configure option and are just a normal user.
Professional: i can recoment you to take if you like to be able to do more things with your system, and its verry good, i use it my self.
Ultimate: are for people who administrate things , who has to have all tools, are a programmer for example.
They all differs in machine requirements.
Ultimate will kill your machine if you have low specc
I would in you case chose "Professional" since there are only 30dollar diffenrece between Home and professional.
Ultimate is just over kill, and are pretty useless for users
EDIT
I am a advance user , and i dont need Ultimate, i wouldent eaven consider Ultimate.
But if you have the money and the machine, so why not
System Specc
Intel I7 4770K 3,5 ghz
16Gb RAM 1600 mhz
Nvidia GTX 780
well i refer you to go to professional edition but then, there are compatibility issues using windows 7 running other games but i not sure tho on games you play ^_^
Thanks for the help guys I think ill get the professional 64 bit version.
Just to comment on the aoc comment someone made, I had no problem running AoC. I didnt like it due to personal gaming tastes.
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
Win7 Pro 64. No reason to get anything else.
@OP post your system specs so we may better evaluate what you have and recomend 32 or 64 bit. I would say pro is probably the better option but then i am a sys admin and i have to have sontrol.
Edit: If you have more than 3gb of ram i would recomend 64bit heres why. 32Bit windows will see 4GB or memory but will only use up to 2.8-3.2GB depends on the machine most of the time it will only address and use up to 2.8GB of ram making anything more than that useless. 64 bit will address more RAM and is not a true 64bit OS it is compatable with and will run 32bit programs.
Time to use PeerBlock....
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Michael
Core I7 2.9 ghz
X58MB,
gtx285,
6gb ddr3 ram,
Thats the meat of my system
Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
Now Playing: N/A
Worst MMO: FFXIV
Favorite MMO: FFXI
Core I7 3.2 ghz (overclocked)
Asus P6T MB,
gtx295,
8gb ddr3 ram,
Thats the meat of my system
This was applicable in XP, Vista and 7 can see and use more. 32 bit or not. That is one of the reasons's I was gutted when I built my machine, I HAD to have Vista to use all of my ram. 64 bit is not plausible for general use and gaming.
If you want your system to be burning itself out early, because it is forcing itself to push through 32 bit software (the bulk of software IS 32 bit) on a 64 bit system, then yes... go for that option because it sounds bigger and better.
( the things in yellow are edited to fit what my machine is atm... waiting on another gtx 295 to slave them)
- Ross
32-bit Windows regardless if it's XP or Vista does not see all 4GB of RAM, there is a setting that you can force 32-bit Windows to see all 4GB of RAM, and you'd have to use the following:
BCDEDIT /set PAE forceenable
However, if you have a processor that is DEP aware, then PAE should already be enabled because DEP needs PAE. If you don't have a processor that is DEP aware then use the above to enable PAE which would then let Windows 32-bit see 4GB of RAM.
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Michael
it's funny then that every PC I've been near can see 4GB of ram... it's anything over that XP cannot see, making the unseen ram therefore redundant. Vista and 7 can both see over 4 gb of ram, regardless if it is 32 bit or 64 bit.
How do I know this? I was rocking it myself before my new rig. yes, on 32 bit.
- Ross
A former friend, has WinV Home Premium x32, with 8GB of RAM installed, and it's only seeing about 3.8GB of it.
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Michael
Maybe it's the OS version then, I'm running Vista Utimate... can see all 8 gb of mine.
- Ross
Maybe it's the OS version then, I'm running Vista Utimate... can see all 8 gb of mine.
Because you're obviously using a processor that is DEP aware -- ie: has DEP turned on in the BIOS -- and as I said DEP needs PAE enabled to function, so if your processor is DEP aware then PAE is turned on by default allowing Vista to see all the RAM.
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Michael
Maybe it's the OS version then, I'm running Vista Utimate... can see all 8 gb of mine.
Because you're obviously using a processor that is DEP aware -- ie: has DEP turned on in the BIOS -- and as I said DEP needs PAE enabled to function, so if your processor is DEP aware then PAE is turned on by default allowing Vista to see all the RAM.
Then why would the same machine not see it all with xp installed?
- Ross
You have to force PAE in XP but if I remember correctly, you can only use 4GB, and possibly certain versions of Vista, however, I am not sure about the latter.
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Michael
it's funny then that every PC I've been near can see 4GB of ram... it's anything over that XP cannot see, making the unseen ram therefore redundant. Vista and 7 can both see over 4 gb of ram, regardless if it is 32 bit or 64 bit.
How do I know this? I was rocking it myself before my new rig. yes, on 32 bit.
Any 32bit windows system will "see" 4 gigs of ram vista and seven will "see" up to 8gigs but there is a very large difference between seeing and addressing. 32bit is limited to just under 3Gb of addressable useable RAM anything beyond that is wasted. How do i know this??? http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa366778(VS.85).aspx that is straight from microsoft. Win 7 is the only 32bit windows OS that can address up to 4gb of RAM period as you can see from that page having more than 3GB of RAM unless it is win7 is a waste.
@OP go 64bit Win7 pro or ultimate difference being that ulitmate includes all the features of Premium and pro and a couple lame extras.