Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Turbine does it again
Rokurgepta
Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,136
Not that it shocks me after all the things Turbine has done over the years in DDO. The list of BS and lies is pretty long really. But the adding of the Wall of Scams really is the lowest they have done to this game. Turbine is single handedly attempting to kill the D&D name and brand with every move they make.
How do you brag about 500% increase in income from a game and then lower yourself to whoring for the Superrewards crowd? Leading your lambs to the slaughter is just astounding, tacking on a little warning is insulting to peoples intelligence. Turbine should have nothing to do with one of the biggest scams on the internet, but instead they got 1 million people to make accounts since they went F2P and then they jumped in bed with a dirty disease ridden hooker, and they are trying to take all of us with them since all you need to do is click their link to get the ball(and the scam) rolling.
DO NOT CLICK THE LINK. Those offers for Turbine points are in many cases scams(yuou wont get points) or in the worst case malware and spyware and virus hiding steaming piles of manure. Sure there are some that work but as one person said they got 255 infected files by doing 2 offers. This person went in knowing the risks and as an experiment. STAY FAR AWAY FROM THESE OFFERS.
If you voted in the Escapist for Turbine as developer of the year do you feel let down?
[Mod Edit]
Comments
How do you feel that 48 hours after Turbine saw that their players weren't happy, they closed it down?
Give me one other mmo company that would react like that ?
..Cake..
48 Hours is too long.
It should have only taken 4 hours to realize that the whole siuation was wrong, if that.
Yes, I am a LotRO Lifer, yes I have played DDO. I expect a MMO Company that I am a customer of to have the customer's best interests at the heart of all decisions that company makes.
The situation should have not occurred in the first place. I expect Turbine to have better "common sense" than what just occurred.
I say the same about EA and the scandal going on over there about multiple billings. Somebody needs to wake up and start treating Player customers like they are in fact the reason a MMO Company exists in the first place.
I say the same about the STO Player Council mess... the one with a questionable website linked on the main webpage of STO... It took Cryptic far too long to realize their mistake, and the mistake should never had reached the website as a link in the first place.
Someone posted a response in a forum recently that said "The MMO Industry has gone into the gutter" or something like that. I am beginning to believe that person has a valid point. Sloppy business practices are becoming all too common.
I am the Player that wonders... "What the %#*& just happened?!"
...............
"I Believe... There should be NO financial connection or portals between the Real World and the Virtual in MMOs. "
__Ever Present Cockroach of the MMO Verses__
...scurrying to and fro... .munching on bits of garbage... always under foot...
is this a global (non-ipblocked game)?if the answer was no!then no need to bother playing it since everybody is going
GLOBAL
NON-IPBLOCKED
so whatever they did concerned a very very small part of the gaming population!
AFAIK this game is global and non IP blocked.
Laudanum - Romance. Revenge. Revolution.
Crappy, petty people breed and raise crappy, petty kids.
Turbine is anything but innocent. Look what happened with LotRo.
They spend 4 years advertising a sandbox game called Middle Earth Online, showing it off at conventions, inviting players in to alpha test it. Then 8 months from launch they completely change the game to be a linear WoW clone, and rename it LotRO.
You should have seen the storm on the forums. Thousands left, but they made those numbers back by appealing to the WoW crowd.
I am one of those who was disappointed as well, still am in a lot of ways. I chose to play LotRO because of the friendships we developed in our Kinship in the four years we waited for MEO, then LotRO. Many of my Kin, The Safe Havens of Arda, left or have left... Fern, Groan, Crevo, so many of my friends now out of touch. We stayed because of friendship, not because we exactly approved of the way Turbine made the game. I still play because that's what friends in MMOs do.
Now Turbine adds insult to injury with it's handling of DDO. I know the teams of DDO and LotRO are mostly seperate, but they are one company and I expect them to do better.
I am the Player that wonders... "What the %#*& just happened?!"
...............
"I Believe... There should be NO financial connection or portals between the Real World and the Virtual in MMOs. "
__Ever Present Cockroach of the MMO Verses__
...scurrying to and fro... .munching on bits of garbage... always under foot...
Ok I am confused... What did Turbine do that has sturred up the controversy? I havnt played DDo or LOTRO in a long time but your post is a little confusing. Can someone tell me what was done? Thank you.
I thoroughly enjoy DDO and have been subscribing for a while now. I have no clue what this person is talking about.
DDO is a fun game, nuff said.
Never violate a woman, nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil. Never back away from an enemy. Either fight or surrender. It is not enough to say I will not be evil. Evil must be fought wherever it is found.The Iron Code"
People need to calm down about this. If you don't like the wall don't use the damn thing. What is so hard about this?
- Case: Thermaltake Kandalf Black Chassis
- CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz (OC'd 4.2GHz on Water Cooling)
- Memory: Mushkin 8Gb (4x 2Gb) DDR3 1600Mhz
- HDD: Dual Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 7200 RPM
- GFX: (2) XFX Radeon HD 5870 in CrossFire - New upgrade!
"I like wow, I like aion and I like AoC all for different reasons.....the later cause i get to see boobs, but still its a reason!!" - Sawlstone
Any one of the companies that got caught and conforonted with community outrage would shut it down. Any reasonable person would see that this is more than an innocent error in judgement.
I feel they fixed their HUGE mistake. It restores a little faith but the fact they got in bed with such shady company is still a bad sign. Are you one of those who feels that Turbine is a better company for what they did? I DO NOT CARE about other MMO companies, I care about the one I give my money to. Why do people think saying other companies suck is a good enough excuse? People like you are the reason these things happen because you applaud a company for attempting to screw its customers and then taking it back when they get caught. Amazing.
It concerns me as I play this game. I could care less how many people it concerned. Thank you for your concern.
Maybe you research DDO and offerwall then come back when you have a clue. Then you could make a post that actually is on topic and relevant.
Let me explain it for you, clicking on the wall, a link Turbine had on their site, sent to SuperRewards your email address and your DDO login name. You understand this is a huge issue right? Maybe to you it is no big deal, in that case calm down and dont post in this thread. What is so hard about that?
I did the same for a while. I believe I remember your kinship.
I was one of the early members of the Elves of Imladris, and I met several of the other members in person during the Turbine Nation events, but I lost track of them after the website got shut down and they merged with another kinship. Still the best guild in any game I've ever been in, with the best people. But that's because most of them were true RPG players, sandbox role players, the type of people that would play an old MMO game, not the type that would stay entertained that long by a linear instanced WoW clone. I remember Lotheani, Seregnin, Gilanath, Light of Anor, and a few others.
If turbine had done their job in the first place they wouldn't have to resort to antics such as this. I also do not think turbine is to stupid to not understand what was going on with their new partners.
Companies really need to stop looking for ways to monetize their games and focus on making better games.
I've no sympathy. If you enjoy the product then pay for it.
Refusing to pay merly forces them to find other undesirable methods.
Being Turbine recently claimed a 500% increase in profits and a doubling of subscriptions I would say your statement is wrong. This was greed if their claims of increases are true.
Considering the game wasnt profitable before -- a 500% increase may in fact be very little once development costs, maintenance, and bandwidth are factored in. 500% of $1 is only $5. If you spend 3 of that on lunch, your profit isnt $4, its 2 -- and how long were you making only $1. There may be a significant amount of debt preexisting.
Laudanum - Romance. Revenge. Revolution.
Crappy, petty people breed and raise crappy, petty kids.
None of which is an excuse to do what they did. WHile I agree a 500% increase could be very little, Turbine is the ones making the claim. If they felt the need to brag then I really doubt 500% was very little money.
No, if they offer free to play it forces them to find other undesirable methods.
I am still not sure what Turbine did. I have done some web searching and still have no idea what the issue is. Did they give out account info? Did they over charge? Did they get hacked? Please some one explain this. I posted this question early on in the thread but I guess no one read that far without going postal. I just dont want to make a mistake with this company if possable.
Turbine set up an Offerwall which was run by SuperRewards. As part of the deal you had to be logged into the DDO forums to use the link, when you clicked the link your username and email linked to it were transferred to superrewards. Turbine admitted as much and said SuperRewards deleted all this information.
But this opened up the possibility of accounts being phished and or hacked as Super Rewards is not exactly known for being an upstanding member of the community. Turbine knowingly got in bed with a filthy hooker and dragged anyone who clicked the link on THEIR site with them.
The uproar this caused made Turbine reconsider and they pulled the Offerwall down completely, good move, I do not think continued business with them is a mistake but you should keep an eye on them since they do not seem to have killed the wall forever. It does seem they want to go forward with this at sometime again.
So they goofed a bit. It happens. DDO is their first foray into the Free to Play sphere. Their experience here is likely very limited -- some marketing douche who doesnt even know how to operate Windows 95 probably thought up the idea and sold it to management blithely unaware of the consequences. Youre asking Turbine, a pay to play company, to have Free to Play connections on par with Perfect World or Changyou when Free to Play is not part of their native business model. Its an arena theyre growing into.
I am going to excuse Turbine, because 48 hours is a damn fast response time when you think about it. Day 1, product is released. Day 2, data gathered suggests product is no good. Management has a meeting, and cancels the product. Management has to let all those sponsors know its not happening before pullng the plug, or get in legal trouble! The fact that they did it in 48 hours shows alot of awareness on their part on the behalf of their community.
In short, relax. Have a beer. They messed up, but they are paying attention.
Laudanum - Romance. Revenge. Revolution.
Crappy, petty people breed and raise crappy, petty kids.
Brute capitalism has taken over the major mmo industry, instead of people with visions making titles for like minded players. Stay away from all those big name publishers and you'll find things are somewhat better, in most cases. Just watch out for the screwups who took on more than they could chew heh.