Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Replaced battery, now nothing on screen
My clock has been two hours off, from time to time the last few weeks, and I had a blue screen crash, so I thought I'd just change the CMOS battery.
While I had the battery out, I reset the BIOS, with the jumper, as I had read some times the BIOS gets corrupted and that the clock being off can be a sign of that, as well as intermitent blue screen crashes.
CPU, PSU,RAM,and GPU were all replaced in December. The MOBO is an old intel. The machine has been running great with no hitches.
After putting everything back together, and turning the machine on, I get no display at all, on my monitor. I pulled the video card and hooked monitor to the on board graphics, and still nothing. I tried another new battery, and the old battery, still nothing.
Could it be that my MOBO, ws going out, and the clock being off a few times was a symptom of that?
Or did I do somethign wrong jumping the bios? I did it with the battery out, then put new battery in.
Anyway thanks for your help, I can get another MOBO, but have very little money so cant really afford to do that and it be the wrong part.
Oh when I turn the machine on all fans come on , CPU fan comes on, GPU fan spins, HD runs, and CD drive runs. Little green light at MOBO is lit as well.
Comments
Reseting the bios put it back to the factory bios. My guess is it probably does not support your video card, and you need to update it back to the current one.
1.) Get into your bios and have it boot from floppy/cd/usb and make a boot disk.
2.) Make the boot disk by downloading the newest bios from the mobo manufacture website on to your storage device. If it is a propriety computer ( hp, dell, etc. ) the bios is probably on their website. The boot disk should have 2 programs on it; .exe is the bios and the .bat makes your storage device into a " boot disk ".
3.) Place the storage device into the drive and start your computer. Then pull the media out and restart your computer and enter the bios again to change it back to boot from hd.
Ok I can use this machine to make a disk etc, but I have no screen at all on the other machine. Nothing comes up, even with the video card out, and just running thru the onboard graphics.
So I assume I put the disk in the drive, and restart the machine with the disc in the drive ( boot from disk)? I have reset the bios before on that other machine, but never lost my screen, tho that was with a different Graphics Card.
I guess at some point of doing this, I should start to see an image on my monitor?
You know, your making me wonder also, about the CPU. it is an E5300, I wonder if I need to burn a disk for it as well, and if so, would I run that disc second, after the bios disc? Or am I way off here. Just learning this stuff by asking here, then doing, so forgive my lack of knowledge.
As a foot note, all of these parts I put in myself, tho I did each one at a time, and yes I had the latest BIOS update , before I started my upgrades. If that has any bearing or not , I dont know, thought I'd mention it.
And thankyou for your response.
Did you put the clear CMOS jumper back on the right pins after you were done resetting it?
Did you put the battery in oriented correctly? The flat side should be up.
Yes, and, yes. the manual shows the position of block, and also, that the plus sign on the battery goes up. Battery is the 2032, coin cell, ( Duracell ).
I have visually re-confimed that both are correct, and repeated procedure three times, twice with 2 new battery's, and once with the old one.
MOBO is the d945gcl Intel
Graphics card is the 5750 xfx xxx
CPU is the E 5300 Intel
PSU - TR2 500 Thermaltake
RAM - Gskill ddr2 667 2gb x 2 @ 4gigs total
Machine has been running so good for months now with these components ( thanks to you and Cleffy, for the info, by the way) smoothest, funnest, gaming, Ive ever had.
foot note: CPU is on the support list for this MOBO,as is the ram frequecy, and total amount of RAM. Also when I reset the BIOS last time was running the Nvdia 8600 gts, which went out, prompting it's replacement with current GPU.
If you can, take all your componentes but the mobo and try them all in a new mobo, if it goes fine, replace your mobo.
you make it sound like the computer is booting, but your getting no display.
you're sure the computer is POSTing? do you hear any unusual beeps when you boot up? Can you get into the bios?
are you sure you put the jumper back to its normal position?
Try holding down 'del' when you boot to see if you can get into your bios and check to make sure *edit* everything is set up properly.
I am not sure the machine is posting, and I actually doubt it very much. Normally that machine will light up my keyboard when it posts, and that is not happening.
I am getting no display.
The monitors are fine, Im on them now.
I am getting no MOBO beeps.
The jumper is in the correct position.
I have no MOBO that will except those parts. Those parts were all fine 10 minutes before I changed the battery and reset the BIOS.
This was just a routine, battery change, and jumped the bios, as perhaps, I thought they might have been scrabled a little. The clock being off by a few hours three times in a month was all I was trying to address, as that is a symptom of a battery going out, and as a battery going out can effect the BIOS.
I was really suprised when the machine would not display, and doesn't seem to be posting. Tho it comes on and all the fans run, including the GPU. The hard drive makes it low hum, as usual. The DVD drive spins up briefly, as usual.
It always has lit up my keyboad when it begins the post process, and that is not happening now. The ketboard is fine, Im on it now.
I have even removed the graphics card, reset the bios, and started it just with onboard graphis, hooked to monitor, and same thing , no display, no evident posting. I have reset BIOS before,in the past, with no Graphics card, just with onboard, and it has Posted, fine. Now it does not.
I'm thinking MOBO is bad, but, just because I have replaced parts with no problem, I feel, does'nt qualify me to know that.
The light on the MOBO, near the MOBO power connector, does light up.
Will try your suggestion, as soon as my back, heals up, Ive thrown it out fighting this problem, so it'll be a couple days before I can lift the machine again.
Thankyou.
Honestly, if you've reset the CMOS, then there's nothing wrong with the machine's settings, because they're on detected failsafes.
As such, especially given that you've repeatedly tried resetting it, the next thing I'd move onto is hardware. It's extremely strange that you aren't getting BIOS beeps, which would indicate any POST-related problems, such as bad RAM or an unuseable video device. Nevertheless, ususally the thing to do at this point is to remove any hardware that isn't absolutely essential to the machine's most basic function (disconnect drives, remove the dedicated video card and use the integrated one you say you have on there, try only one RAM stick and cycle through them), and if you can't get back any kind of functionality, then I'm afraid you probably fried something.
You might, of course, be right that the motherboard was on its way out. Do you know what the blue screen errors were reporting? That might be relevant to the problem.
Really though, if the machine completely refuses to post, no matter what, and you've removed all the other hardware that might be causing trouble, then that pretty much narrows it down to the motherboard, or possible the CPU (but I find that unlikely). If it DOES post with extra hardware removed, then just replace/reconnect the parts one by one until it stops again and then you'll have your culprit. Maybe you had a bad RAM stick that finally gave out?
Sure thing, will do as soon as I am able. I have the old RAM, CPU, PSU and aven a few HDs'. I cant imagine it being the PSU.
Is it possible to start a PC without a hard drive?
Yes; your only goal should be to get it to post. If you can do that, then you work your way to a fully functional machine. The only thing required for a post is a good power supply, motherboard, RAM, CPU, and a video device.
I've seen hardware cause some very unexpected problems before, so it helps to just start with that. For instance, I once saw a machine fail to post no matter what the owned did until they took their sound card out. That shouldn't have been the problem, but removing it fixed the issue. I've also seen overloaded PSUs from too much gear keep a PC from posting correctly, though usually bad/overloaded PSUs just cause an unstable system (and fry stuff after awhile).
You really just never know what might be the issue, especially if the motherboard isn't helping out with an audible error. If you're lucky, it really is just a bad stick of RAM that can easily be replaced.
ya, you can pull the hard drives, even the video board and ram. ideally you want to do what the above poster said, pull hardware and try to get a series of beeps then start adding hardware back until it fails to post
The posters give good recommendations.
I think you're on the right track and it's likely the mobo, maybe BIOS. You may need to go as far as to replace the chip itself. May not be worth the effort, especially for an unsure fix.
The time changes you saw aren't indicative of a bad battery. If the battery was dead, you'd get occasional or constant resets to the default time and date of the mobo; it wouldn't be gaining/losing time. It's quite possible this mobo was on its last legs.
Normally a failed video init gives you 3 or 4 beeps, IMX. Failed hardware of other kinds, like the KB or PSU give you a dead power button. A bad CPU or memory would at least give you the bios screen. You can always try popping them out and seeing if that triggers a beep or something. Failure of hardware often provides a different result than missing hardware . If popping the cpu or memory gives you the exact same behavior, I suspect BIOS.
Hope you get your machine back up!
ya I was thinking the same thing about the motherboard going out. Resetting the cmos may have been the little nudge it needed to say "Im not coming back this time".
Hey guys, thank you very much. Ive learned some more, from all your input, and am very gratefull.
As soon as my back can bare it, I'll get back into that machine, and apply all your suggestions.
As it turns out, I wont be able to get a MOBO, but a friend, may let me use his extra machine, if need be, as a platdorm for my CPU and Graphics card. He has a good PSU, and while the MOBO is an older one, its is ddr2, and has a 500 watts supply, already in it. I had put some RAM in it, when I upped this machine from 2gig to 4gig, which is that boards max.
In short I'll still be able to play LOTRO. I mean hey, thats whats it's all about in the end. His board is SATA so I can just pop my HD over to that one/plenty O'room, wont even have to do the 24 hr re-install. Heck it's gonna be alright. Yeah I been freakin, you guys helped me stay focused.
Admin you can close this if you want, I think we got it covered now, and thanks again to all.
God Bless Mud.
The best way is to make it simplest as it can be.
0) Triple check the new battery is the correct voltage, if you still have the old one use it.
1) Disconnect everything from the motherboard and remove it from the case.
2) Connect PSU.
3) Stick in single memory module.
4) Connect your monitor to onboard video card.
5) Connect your keyboard.
6) Check CMOS clear jumper settings and set it to Normal state.
7) Turn on the computer by connecting the jumper for Power-On on the motherboard
(turn on PSU before hand if it has got the switch on it)
The motherboards are equipped with sound or visual(leds on the mobo) signalization. Check the manual to figure out the issue according to sound and led signals.
EDIT: Double check everything is connected the way it should be, the battery being placed properly included.