My favorite all time endgame concept. So much things to accomplish in a raid: flags, CC groups, SLOW/BUFF/DEBUFF groups god do I miss this former great game.
PvP: EvE, Darkfall
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play." "Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
End game that practically starts in your first hour of play, who could hate on that?
*hi5*
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
World of Warcraft, the Burning Crusade. Tempest Keep, Serpentshrine Cavern and The Black Temple were the Halycon of end game for wow in my opinion.
I got goosebumps every try on Kael'thas (Best before nerf) "Energy power my people are addicted to it, a dependance made manifest after the sunwell was destroyed, Welcome to the future, a pity you are too late to stop it no one can stop me now"
There are a few sandbox games that come close, like Eve, Darkfall, maybe SWG.
But all the people picking junk like WoW and EQ and AoC aren't being objective at all about this.
Seriously? Raids? That's it? WoW and EQ are one dimensional games with only one thing to do at the end of the game. DAoC had a robust crafting economy, as well as an extensive raiding system, AND RvR. There is no better end game content.
My favorite all time endgame concept. So much things to accomplish in a raid: flags, CC groups, SLOW/BUFF/DEBUFF groups god do I miss this former great game.
PvP: EvE, Darkfall
Every game with raiding has these things those... this is why I don't understand why people keep picking one dimensional raid games as the best end game content. Raiding is an industry standard.
My favorite all time endgame concept. So much things to accomplish in a raid: flags, CC groups, SLOW/BUFF/DEBUFF groups god do I miss this former great game.
PvP: EvE, Darkfall
Every game with raiding has these things those... this is why I don't understand why people keep picking one dimensional raid games as the best end game content. Raiding is an industry standard.
this is personal feeling about the best game, just because you don't like the game doesn't mean some one does.
eve and darkfall technically don't have an endgame any plenty of people have listed them. just because raiding is an industry standard doesn't mean squat. No matter how hard you try you can never change someones mind.
3rd the was no poll. you's just angry because people don't feel the same way as you on MMO. but you can keep getting angry and trying to insult people to get them to change their mind, and than you'll have no friends and family members cause no one wants to be around some one who preaches
My favorite all time endgame concept. So much things to accomplish in a raid: flags, CC groups, SLOW/BUFF/DEBUFF groups god do I miss this former great game.
PvP: EvE, Darkfall
Every game with raiding has these things those... this is why I don't understand why people keep picking one dimensional raid games as the best end game content. Raiding is an industry standard.
this is personal feeling about the best game, just because you don't like the game doesn't mean some one does.
eve and darkfall technically don't have an endgame any plenty of people have listed them. just because raiding is an industry standard doesn't mean squat. No matter how hard you try you can never change someones mind.
Yeah sorry, I had just been hoping that maybe we'd actually get a poll with some objectivity to it without people just arbitrarily voting for their favorite game whether or not it had good end game content or not. Guess that's too much to expect.
My favorite all time endgame concept. So much things to accomplish in a raid: flags, CC groups, SLOW/BUFF/DEBUFF groups god do I miss this former great game.
PvP: EvE, Darkfall
Every game with raiding has these things those... this is why I don't understand why people keep picking one dimensional raid games as the best end game content. Raiding is an industry standard.
Every movie with good story and/or actors are entertaining to look...
Why then nominate and reward them with Oscars, Golden Bears etc.
My favorite all time endgame concept. So much things to accomplish in a raid: flags, CC groups, SLOW/BUFF/DEBUFF groups god do I miss this former great game.
PvP: EvE, Darkfall
Every game with raiding has these things those... this is why I don't understand why people keep picking one dimensional raid games as the best end game content. Raiding is an industry standard.
Every movie with good story and/or actors are entertaining to look...
Why then nominate and reward them with Oscars, Golden Bears etc.
That's not a very good anology as there are far more variations between "entertaining movies" than MMORPG raiding mechanics. All raiding is pretty much the same.
Fantastic no real end game but just joyous to play. Sadly End Game content and MMOs are a little bit of an oxymoron.
You should really be talking an Arena Game if it's about end game. MMOs are all about persistancy and longevity, nice thread but just so wrong in so many ways.
________________________________________________________ Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
There are a few sandbox games that come close, like Eve, Darkfall, maybe SWG.
But all the people picking junk like WoW and EQ and AoC aren't being objective at all about this.
Seriously? Raids? That's it? WoW and EQ are one dimensional games with only one thing to do at the end of the game. DAoC had a robust crafting economy, as well as an extensive raiding system, AND RvR. There is no better end game content.
Please explain to me how people should be objective in a subjective poll, i dont think that word means what you think it means friend
Best in your "opinion" the word opinion prevents objective rationalisation.
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eve, cant think of anything else even close (never played daoc though)
IF THE ONLY DEFENCE FOR CRITICISM OF A GAME IS CALLING SOMEONE A TROLL OR HATER, THAT SAYS A LOT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF THE GAME
Everquest 1 hands down
My favorite all time endgame concept. So much things to accomplish in a raid: flags, CC groups, SLOW/BUFF/DEBUFF groups god do I miss this former great game.
PvP: EvE, Darkfall
We need a MMORPG Cataclysm asap, finish the dark age of MMORPGS now!
"Everything you're bitching about is wrong. People don't have the time to invest in corpse runs, impossible zones, or long winded quests. Sometimes, they just want to pop on and play."
"Then maybe MMORPGs aren't for you."
*hi5*
There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
"Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre
daoc
best pvp around
EQ1 upto & incl. PoP. Quarm kill was like logical end of end-game.
Eve, the endgame starts when you login
World of Warcraft, the Burning Crusade. Tempest Keep, Serpentshrine Cavern and The Black Temple were the Halycon of end game for wow in my opinion.
I got goosebumps every try on Kael'thas (Best before nerf) "Energy power my people are addicted to it, a dependance made manifest after the sunwell was destroyed, Welcome to the future, a pity you are too late to stop it no one can stop me now"
UO
Reasons as stated by others.
I always have a "honey-do" list at home. When I play MMOs, I want to play in a world and be freeeee.
Once upon a time....
You shouldn't count sandbox MMOs, like people said there's no end-game.
My pick is FFXI.
eq1
Dark Age of Camelot
There are a few sandbox games that come close, like Eve, Darkfall, maybe SWG.
But all the people picking junk like WoW and EQ and AoC aren't being objective at all about this.
Seriously? Raids? That's it? WoW and EQ are one dimensional games with only one thing to do at the end of the game. DAoC had a robust crafting economy, as well as an extensive raiding system, AND RvR. There is no better end game content.
Everquest 2, most endgame content I ever seen. Guildwars was pretty nice too.
Every game with raiding has these things those... this is why I don't understand why people keep picking one dimensional raid games as the best end game content. Raiding is an industry standard.
EVE, for all the same reasons that've already been mentioned.
this is personal feeling about the best game, just because you don't like the game doesn't mean some one does.
eve and darkfall technically don't have an endgame any plenty of people have listed them. just because raiding is an industry standard doesn't mean squat. No matter how hard you try you can never change someones mind.
3rd the was no poll. you's just angry because people don't feel the same way as you on MMO. but you can keep getting angry and trying to insult people to get them to change their mind, and than you'll have no friends and family members cause no one wants to be around some one who preaches
Yeah sorry, I had just been hoping that maybe we'd actually get a poll with some objectivity to it without people just arbitrarily voting for their favorite game whether or not it had good end game content or not. Guess that's too much to expect.
Every movie with good story and/or actors are entertaining to look...
Why then nominate and reward them with Oscars, Golden Bears etc.
That's not a very good anology as there are far more variations between "entertaining movies" than MMORPG raiding mechanics. All raiding is pretty much the same.
Can't 100% agree with ya.
Yes, many mechanics seems same but...
See even EQ1 I mentioned for me til PoP
After that raiding goes on but for me that was crapper and i left
AC1
Fantastic no real end game but just joyous to play. Sadly End Game content and MMOs are a little bit of an oxymoron.
You should really be talking an Arena Game if it's about end game. MMOs are all about persistancy and longevity, nice thread but just so wrong in so many ways.
________________________________________________________
Sorcery must persist, the future is the Citadel
SWG Pre-CU
I love sandbox games and that was the best...ever. The hidden Jedi requirements were a great idea until everyone knew about it.
EVE
I don't like that game, but it has the best end game content in my opinion.
DaoC
Please explain to me how people should be objective in a subjective poll, i dont think that word means what you think it means friend
Best in your "opinion" the word opinion prevents objective rationalisation.
If you think that, you just haven't experienced better end game content.
Before you've experienced every endgame there is to experience, you should avoid saying subjective things like this.