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How can this be a shooter without hitboxes or headshots?
Dis_Ordur
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Without hitboxes, I fail to see how someone could say this game requires skill. There is nothing more glorious in a shooter than a perfectly timed headshot. I was on the fence about this game, but since thee are no hitboxes I will pass. I would rather pay BC2 without monthly charge. Customization and social interaction are not enough for a monthly fee. Most FPS'ers or action shooter types will not dish out money/month to play an action game without the core elements of a shooter like hitboxes or headshots.
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Really it has no hit boxes? LOL! That is a step backwards in design. Even Planetside had hit boxes.
Really? Because I could have sworn there was no headshots in planetside?
Plus there is hitboxes, just not for different parts of the body. If a car is racing towards you and hits you it kills you! Though from what i hear this can be difficult.
I could have swore there were headshots in Planetside. ::sigh:: It's been awhile since I played it. Maybe you are right and I am getting it messed up with BF2. Anyway...it is a shame nevertheless.
There isn't really room for headshots/hitboxes if you want some extra 'strategy' or 'tactics' in a third person shooter, IMO. Maybe not quite so much in APB, but it's definitely a good thing to not have hitboxes in GA.
You're going to die in less than two seconds if you're not careful and get caught in front of something anyway.
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Of course there are hitboxes...
This game does require skill, although most of it comes from having to deal with the often quirky controls, you'll be able to distinguish a skilled player from a non-skilled one very easily (although the non-skilled one might still win through the use of fotm weapons).
I'm happy they're keeping headshots out of the game, many rifles are overpowered enough without having an added headshot bonus, a possible exception could maybe be made for sniper rifles in particular, but honestly, balance comes first.
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ITs ok i would prefer headshots as well, but i do understand that would make the game a little ridiculous. Third person shooters are hard to have headshots with, so as long as the combat is still frantic and fun ill be ok with it.
Thank you.
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Hitbox doesn't matter in APB. Its all about who has more and better mods on their character and weapons. Throw in a little bunny hop and the game is 100% gear/luck based, 0% skill based. There is suppose to be a change to mods but of course they failed to do it during beta, so good luck with the untested stuff they are doing for launch.
u are forgetting ppl can use hack program to headshot u every time.
It still won't "count" as a headshot, since there's one hitbox for the entire body, headshot or not. You will prob be taking the same damage as if you were hit in the leg or arm. Fine by me.
And I also think they will address those hacks by release.
only people that aimbot headshots are crying about the lack of a headshot hitbox in this game, they went with a more realistic function that in life only snipers hit anything in the head everyone else goes for a core body shot to try and hit the target and take it down (remember those 2 armored robbers in la that rampaged for hours without armored head gear? the cops couldnt manage to hit them in the head while hiding from their ak 47s).
All head localised hitboxes do is to make it easier for aimbots to kill you.
This is not the right type of game for headshots.
OP you need to elarn what a hitbox is. APB has hitboxes, there is one that covers you're entire body not small seperate ones for arms, legs, head, body etc
Take the Magic: The Gathering 'What Color Are You?' Quiz.
The title of this thread says "hitboxes", as in plural. APB has a "hitbox", as in singular... NIce try though...
You obviously have no idea that when beta finished RTW opened a test realm for patch testing for pre-release and post-release patches. The core beta testers are testing updates right now, new weapon balances and reduced upgrades.
I laugh at people who bunny hop around because it means you cannot shoot accurately due to a huge penalty for jumping, so I can take my time and aim my shots as I know they will not hit me.
With the same logic there should be no mobs on other games because bots would be able to farm them.
You don't design a game by how the bots are going to act, but rather try to limit them.
Officially they did it because you shouldn´t get owned by a 12 year old who headshots all day. It was sayed in some podcast.
Other thing i have heard is the a singel hitbox balances the height of the char better because bigger head with headshot bonus would be a very huge disadvantage against an small char,
aye, ever notice how in all fps with head and body part boxes all characters are identicle in size, now imagine how everyone would make the tiniest ugliest midgets in apb to have no headshot box ect and to hide behind cement barriers and crap so they can safely toss grenades over at the giant killable people while they themselves resemble an anorexic baby hooked on meth.
And how is the game right now? If there is one hitbox right now, wouldn't the dwarf's hitbox be smaller than the giant? Or would I be able to hit the dwarf if i aimed 1 meter above him?
So developers do something a little different and people freak out. I mean, how awesome is that ?
You obviously didnt stick or around or were completely oblivious but they did change the values on the mods to lower percentes and removed some of the tier 3 mods from league rewards.
However everything else you stated is true. This game requires no skill whatsoever. Anyone with a normal functioning body can aim a mouse. The mods are RTW's answer to progression which is incredibly sad. There is no content in this game yet they expect a monthly fee or hour plan... ridiculous. There are no clan featuers besides chat and rewards, endless grinding of the same five missions it seems like with absolutely no story telling at all. You have no real impact ont he game world which is odd since your basically in a war zone. As many have said the customization is great but the game fails. Some will like it but ultimately this game will fall into that dark niche corner that few diehards love and punish newbs via any media means neccesary until the game finally chokes and dies. RIP APB
Without diffferent part of hit box in one body, more players can play togheter without lagging i think. The more hit box, the more server information and because of that, the more players in the same place may equal a quick server crash. Hell, unreal engine was also a bad idea.
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Touche. Great post. I hope you readed this one OP. IF head shot was in, players who think about winning would make female characters that ahve small head and make them the skinniest possible. It would be so much unfair. So no head shot was a good move.
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mmo shooters arent that precise. they can make all characters have the same size hitboxes. bullets have such a wide spray and hitboxes are simplified to compensate for lag. thats why it doesnt take much skill, either. you dont need to aim that well, not like in a sp/mp shooter.