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Is Blizzard intentionally trying to release Cata at the same time as SWTOR?
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To kill it?
With all the hype and it IS star wars and all. Are they maybe getting nervous?
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It's possible, they've done it in the past (Wrath - Warhammer), but TBH I don't think it'll affect TOR much if they do.
I dont think it would be a wise marketing stratedgy. They would make more intial sales of Cata if they didnt try and compete with KOTOR. Selling their product at the same time another huge competition does doesnt seem wise to me....but ya never know....
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I disagree. While TOR will get a lot of subscribers on its own right I think Bioware is expecting, rightfully, to get a lot of subscriptions from the WoW crowd. I think that if given the choice between the two games people will continue playing WoW if there is a new expansion because they have people there.
Will it detroy TOR? Not a chance. However, I think it will affect it.
I don't really know either, but it kinda makes sense. I've got players that are bored because they are capped out, and they've already played through a few alts.
Let them start some other game, and get all involved with that content and those characters, or give them some new content to play so they will stick around and stay attached to the characters they ahve?
I'd probably throw new content at them.
Well considering it will probably launch a month or 2 before xmas its not really in direct competition with TOR. If anything it will probably hurt WoW more with such a large gap between those 2 releases. From my personal experience with my guilds and RL friends we all started to jump ship at around 6months into WOTLK xpac. Cata looks to be more of the same WOTLK stuff so as it stands now out of the 20 or so I know who play in RL none plan on returning and are awaiting TOR. WoW will be 6years old this year and with MMOs like TOR, GW2, TERA ,DCUO and FF14 set to launch in 2011 I expect we will see the MMO user base pan out to other MMOs. I dont expect any of those to hit the user base WoW had but I see a 1-2 million playing TOR and about the same for GW2. FF14 probably around a million and DCUO since its PS3 and PC. TERA will probably be around the 200k-500k mark.
Just what the hell are you talking about?
Its been known for a while that Cataclysm would be releasing 4th quarter 2010.
At E3 Bioware said they were targeting spring 2011.
So, if by "at the same time" you mean within 6 to 8 months then yes.
I don't think the WoW expansion is going to be as big as many think it will be. Sales will be big, I know that. But they are trying to catch lightning in a bottle twice. WoW has lost a lot from the original game. Many are getting bored with what the game has become. During the E3, I saw a report about the 9 million players of WoW. That is 2 million less than the previous 11 million. No one knows how many really play, but that was interesting to me.
Many players will have fun for a while with the new race and starting areas. But guess what, it is still the same game and mechanics. Do players really want to go through the same leveling process with a new skin that will take only about 2 weeks anyway?
No one know if SW:TOR will be the next big thing or not. Regardless of the WoW xpac, TOR will get a large number of box sales. The game play will be familiar with new and different features. It will be available to average PC's so no upgrade needed. And it will be trying for the Bioware SPG gamers that may not be into MMO's. It will have a large early sub base and with the hybrid Themepark/Sandbox game play they are going for. It can and will keep enough subs to be the second largest sub base. I have no doubt about that. So yes, WoW may be releasing around the same time for a reason. But it won't make that much of a difference.
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WoW is approaching what the same thing that happened to EQ1. Old age, the game will survive and go on to be a great game for some people, since kids under the age of 10 play this now apparently at insane rates, die hard wow fans, veterans of the game, among other (maybe someone first trying the game out etc etc you get my point). Fact is people have grown tired of it they want something new to try out as the OP said gone through the content more than once, I'll admit WoW never got a hold of me that well, i was never an end game raider, nor an advid pvper. It wasn't a game I grew attached to like EQ,DAoC , and SWG. I can see a large amount of the asian population dropping WoW for FF14, I can see a great deal of SWG pre nge vets playing ToR, same goes for bioware fans and star wars fans (I think the two are one in the same maybe unless its a movie fanboi who only watch the movies.) obviously GW vets will give GW2 a try. WoW's popluation will take a hit at the release from all the games to come in the future probably the biggest hit they'll have. I say release the game prior to ToR, it might come down to some people (if the game release date's are close enough like weeks maybe a month) to pinch their pockets and pick one (I'm going with ToR since its a new product completely.) I pinched my wallet on WoW at its launch I went with EQ2 and Halo 2 instead. WoW's a great game lots of fun, but for some crowd's that may be playing it now as a temporary fix for a future game. I've honestly never seen suck a stellar line up of MMO's being release in the near future which have the potential these do, each of the three games I listed have huge fan base's that's intimidating along add in some players looking for that change and well hell I'd be a little worried if I was trying to keep players and improve my companies stock too, I also thinks gaming companies (or so I hope are done trying to be the WoW killer.) I don't think one game in general will ever be able to do that the game will do what EQ1 did slowly fade out when another new hot shot game comes and lives up to standards I don't see it really happening for a while still. In fact i'd say it'd be a bunch of games that deal a hit to WoW maybe these 3 (as well as the other 3 I don't know anything about), maybe future titles still being developed only time will tell. the day new servers stop opening up on WoW is a slight sign the day server merges happen is a better sign, the day even more server merges happen a sure fire sign. Honestly the day the game does think about making another mmo such as maybe a SC one or a real Diablo one (I can dream right?) or another WoW, who knows but I know one things in my mind when it does go down in population I see a huge celebration like at the end of Return of the Jedi when the Death Star was and the Emperour were destroyed, but hey thats my mind and these are my views, and points of opinion I not hating on WoW i enjoyed it from my on and off time playing over the passed years (none longer than 2 months), nothing last forever though.
If they are then they will lose. If they want their fans to stay with them then show them something new like their new mmo because WoW is not the answer anymore.
Well EQ2 went to launch a little earlier than WoW, helped them initially draw in the 'something new' crowd. Even suckered me in. Then when WoW was using patches to fix their problems EQ2 had a huge game changing update that drove the numbers away, and it hasn't recovered since.
I think WoW would be wise to stick to their strong points and sort of zone off the thoughts of competition.
Blizzard isn't run by dummies tho'. I think they know the apex of their title is / or has / coming so they're going to release content that'll keep the core subscribers around while they hurry on their piggyback title.
Which I'll throw in FFXIV and Guild Wars 2 into this mix. If they do well, compared to the previous attempts at mmo-sequels we've seen, it'll probably embolden Blizzard to not worry so much about the present and put more effort in to the future.
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FFXIV is coming out this year, not 2011
Do you have a link or could you tell in detail what was being talked about? I'm curious.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
All I know is if they do, there is one gamer who's WoW sub will go into freeze. I myself am fed up with big axes Shaman keeps getting in WoW and the fact the game has gotten so boring. Im looking for something fresh and ToR looks to have it.
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WoW will never-ever-ever stagger until Blizzard kills it by itself.
Even if all these projected "flockings" occur to these other games (by the way, EVERY game these "flockings" are predicted, ever since early Burning Crusade), and WoW isn't number one... Guess what?
Blizzard's new MMO comes out, LOLOLOL. Blizzard wins.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
We will see since FF is infamous for delays. But doesn't really matter 10 or 11.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
No: players win.
Since there'll be more options to choose from, more quality MMO's to choose from that suits your own taste.
Your post fails.
The ACTUAL size of MMORPG worlds: a comparison list between MMO's
The ease with which predictions are made on these forums:
Fratman: "I'm saying Spring 2012 at the earliest [for TOR release]. Anyone still clinging to 2011 is deluding themself at this point."
qfe, tor is just going to be WoW clone, i really hope bioware pulls something out of their ass.
Yes just like they have with other games
To be honest WoWs gameplay is part of what kept its player base around. I have played nearly every MMO to launch in the past 8 years and they either have similar mechanics as far as gameplay or they go with more of an action based route and all those action based MMOs haven't really done all that well. The safe bet is to add a few new things keep core gameplay that is familiar. I really think its an IP/company thing that makes an MMO sell well as long as it has a solid foundation. It doesn't have to be innovative to be fun just change things up a bit add a few things new and keep the core gameplay solid and have the following of a well known IP/Company to be popular and pull in a crowd for long term.
Rofl. There are so many options to choose from now that it's not like ToR or FF14 or GW2 are targeting any niche markets. They are targeting exhausted WoW players (GW2 targeting itself). From my own experience, people that take breaks from WoW usually come back at content updates/expansions. Everyone knows Blizzard will deliver a finished product, they know the quality delivered. They don't have deadlines to meet, it's done when it's done.
I wouldn't call something "quality" until it releases. FF14 and ToR are big nailbiters. '11 might just bring another list of games that WoW Cata gobbles up.
P.S. My post fails? Sorry for discussing on a discussion board. I CAN BE COOL TOO AND ACT ALL BIG INTERNET TOUGHT GUY.
Your post fails. I'M SO COOL.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
I agree. However, I'm not a big fan of a single player storyline MMO type game. Companions drives me even further. Companions in an MMO are absolutely not familiar at all, and I don't see this resonating with players that well. I speak for only myself, though, and time will tell.
He who keeps his cool best wins.
It takes more then an expansion pack to kill a brand new MMO based on a legendary franchise name. As long as they market SWTOR properly they should be good against the WoW elephant.
ROFL.... HAHAHAHA!
Sorry, but seriously? People will not come flocking to a game that is very similar to WoW when they can play new content in the game they already have high level characters and friends in. Some will, yes, but most if this happened would stay on WoW at least until the content from the expansion ran out.